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StuntMonkee

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OK, we all know that he has been a top RB for the last several weeks. . . .in fact in my league he has been the #5 RB behind SJAX. The numbers are 71 carries for 487 yards and 3 td. He has been averaging over 6.8 yards a carry for 4 weeks now, and if you want a rounder number its 6.2 over the last 5 weeks. . . .needless to say, in retro, he has been a must start for nearly the last 1/3 of the season.

Now many of you may have been doing what I have been, and continued to start your other "must start studs" over Fred because of match ups or the obvious fact that fred is in a RBBC, but the numbers dont lie. . . .and last weeks 150 mark isnt enough to throw the last 5 weeks out of whack.

Coming into the last week of the FF season, Fred gets one of the sweetest statistical match ups of the season. Before last week against Addai, "the Raiders sported the worst rush D in the NFL, averaging 150.4 rushing yards allowed (31st in the league), while handing over a league-leading 21 TDs to date. They've given up 164 or more rushing yards in 3 of their last 4 games, with 36/179/1 surrendered to Green Bay" 2 weeks ago.

So now a small percentage of teams (ones in the SB with Fred on their teams), have to make a call. I would assume that many of you are in a similar position and have to decide if Fred will out perform one of the current studs on your bench. For me its FWP. Call will a bust if you want, but he has been one of the most consistent backs this year. and as long as you are getting points for yardage he has been giving you something worth starting all season long.

So in the final week when you simply cant afford a bust week from players like A. Peterson, or Kevin Jones, Gore, Portis, or any other number of backs that seem to have big games and then a complete dud. . . . . .but on the same note, you MUST have a big game or 2 from someone on your roster to win championships.

Call this a "WDIS" thread if you want, Fred is on my team and this is a cal I have to make BEFORE THURSDAY. . . .but I think it qualifies as a "Who do YOU start" for a good chunk of us.

Things to consider this week

1. Fred vs Raiders

2. Weather

3. Other match ups to consider Fred in favor of. . . .FWP against STL, SJax against Pits, J Lewis against Cin, Grant against Chi, Addai against Hou, Westbrook vs NO, Graham vs SF, McGahee vs Sea

That means Fred is NO worse than a #10 back this week? But if numbers stand true, should be the #1-5

 
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There is no way you can bench this guy IMO, he is red hot. Those of you who may have benched him last week learned a lesson, now apply it.

When it comes playoff time I think you gotta ride the hot players...

As for a WDIS - I don't know where you were going with all those guys at the end of your post. I won't even try to address picking who to start over Fragile but I know he will be in my lineup this week fo sho!

 
I'm in the same boat. I picked up Fred Taylor as insurance thinking I'd never need to play him as I have Portis and LT2. I don't like Portis' matchup against Minny and I think Oakland should yield tons of rushing yardage to Jacksonville. I have already plugged Taylor in and benched Clinton. Who knows, this will probably be the week he gets dinged on the first carry.

 
Gotta play Taylor this week if you have him, I've been starting him since Week 10 since I don't have any better options. If you don't have confidence in Taylor after these last few weeks you never will.

 
ThePassion said:
As for a WDIS - I don't know where you were going with all those guys at the end of your post. I won't even try to address picking who to start over Fragile but I know he will be in my lineup this week fo sho!
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Not a WDIS over those last list of guys. . . .that was just a list of guys that you would possibly start over Fred, but might have Fred start over this week.So in your opinions, where does Fred fall?Over A Peterson?Over LT?Over SJax?I really dont want to have this thread turn into a story book. . . .so try and not make it a pointless thread. But as of some of your projections. . . .Is Fred a top 10? Top 5?, #1?I'm putting him as #5. . . .but could bust to a #20 should MJD get hot.Guys like FWP could be #5, but would bust at worst as #10.
 
Tough decision here as well. I posted a Portis poll largely because I have a Fred Taylor option. To make matters worse, I also own MJD and I have a hunch he too could go off vs. Oakland.

 
I am starting 3 of the following:

SJax vs. PIT, Westbrook @ NO, Portis @ MIN, FTaylor vs. OAK, KSmith @ DET

PPR league, SJax and Westbrook are no-brainers. Portis has started pretty much every game, and Taylor has NEVER started for me, but this week I'm likely going with Taylor. He's on a roll, at home, and I think he'll see 20 carries with a good chance for a TD.

 
I traded for Taylor when I saw how hard he was running in week 3. The fantasy numbers weren't there yet, but Fred has been playing with a passion all year. Del Rio is finally starting to get it as well, and feeding him the rock.

I would have a hard time benching him, because I think he is almost assured 100+ yards vs the Raiders. The real question is whether or not he gets the TD.

 
I've been starting him over Maurice Drew for my RB2 the last 3 weeks with Graham as my No.1 Just goes to show you how things can change from draft day. NO way do I sit Taylor this week, you just have to stare at his point totals the last month to see how great he's been.

I REALLY did a gut check this past weekend vs. Pittsburgh. Part of me watned to sit him vs. Pittsburgh, I had a couple options and even FBG's had Maurice Drew Jones ranked higher than him for the week (I have no idea why on this one, not after what we've seen as of late) but I stuck with him and he delivered.

I'm all over Fred Taylor this week. I've got one last game in one last week and for me it's Fred Taylor and E. Graham.

Those two are easy for me.....my decision is do I start Farve or P. Manning. I've started Farve for most of the 2nd half of the season, guess I'm just waiting to see what the weather will be like in Chicago.

 
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Good thread. I'd bet there are lots of people who have had Fred on their bench all season, and are finally convinced he should be starting. I'm one of those people.

 
I'm glad I saw this thread. I was mildly entertaining the idea of starting Freddy as my flex player this week. I am definately going for the homerun and starting AD, I also starting Ryan Grant. I have Brandon Jacobs in my flex spot right now, but could put Freddy in instead. Reading this thread has me thinking Freddy's the man.

 
I will speak as an owner who has had Fred on the bench the last 5 weeks.

His big games have been buoyed by 2 long runs for TDs. I know you can't take those away, but can you count on them?

Best of luck to all of you with this decision.

 
shredhead said:
I'm glad I saw this thread. I was mildly entertaining the idea of starting Freddy as my flex player this week. I am definately going for the homerun and starting AD, I also starting Ryan Grant. I have Brandon Jacobs in my flex spot right now, but could put Freddy in instead. Reading this thread has me thinking Freddy's the man.
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Freddy is a must start this week. The team is rallying behing Fred to get him in the Pro Bowl. On the local Jags show, the O-line wants to get Taylor 200 yards this Sunday.
 
You might want to consider that Fred getting hot in december isn't a new thing. His production in december historically is well above is normal production to a large degree. I don't know how you could sit him after his play the last 4 weeks and facing Oakland in a game that means something to the Jags. I'd be very surprised if he didn't at the least run off another 100 yard game.

 
beto said:
I will speak as an owner who has had Fred on the bench the last 5 weeks.His big games have been buoyed by 2 long runs for TDs. I know you can't take those away, but can you count on them?Best of luck to all of you with this decision.
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Thats what I kinda of look at. His long runs can't be your base, but they have been pretty consistant.What do people thing about the Raiders run D. . . .do you think they are sick of being beat on and will focus on that and force the Jags to throw?And what many of us will have to decide EARLY on (thursday), where does fred fall in the rankings with FWP and SJax who will be running on turf indoor this week.Don't have hard numbers, but if I recall, don't fast backs typically run much better on turf, since they can get outside?
 
moleculo said:
Good thread. I'd bet there are lots of people who have had Fred on their bench all season, and are finally convinced he should be starting. I'm one of those people.
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whhwalker said:
shredhead said:
I'm glad I saw this thread. I was mildly entertaining the idea of starting Freddy as my flex player this week. I am definately going for the homerun and starting AD, I also starting Ryan Grant. I have Brandon Jacobs in my flex spot right now, but could put Freddy in instead. Reading this thread has me thinking Freddy's the man.
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Freddy is a must start this week. The team is rallying behing Fred to get him in the Pro Bowl. On the local Jags show, the O-line wants to get Taylor 200 yards this Sunday.
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That would be fantastic. I'm starting him this week along with LT and Jamal Lewis. I didn't even have Jamal or Fred on my roster at the beginning of the season. Now they have gotten me to the show.
 
beto said:
I will speak as an owner who has had Fred on the bench the last 5 weeks.His big games have been buoyed by 2 long runs for TDs. I know you can't take those away, but can you count on them?Best of luck to all of you with this decision.
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Fred Taylor only has 6 rushes on the season of 20+ yards and is averaging 5.1 per carry. For comparison, Willie Parker has 12 rushes on the season of 20+ yards and is averaging 4.1 per carry. Fred's stats stand up fine even taking away the long runs. ETA: Fred's problem has been limited chances. He's 6th in rushing yards and 25th in attempts per game, 15th in attempts total. It appears that attempts shouldn't be a problem this week.
 
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bigfishboy said:
I am going with Fred over Addai. I have lost my faith in Addai and believe he may be rested a bit this week.
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I am doing the exact same but not for your first reason but more for your second. I think Addai will split carries more evenly this week with Keith maybe limiting his touches to actually less than Fred's.
 
Drafted Fred as my backup to Gore and LT...Fred has sat on my bench all season. Even during the bye weeks, someone else got the start.

Now I have Gore playing well, and getting tons of touches without sharing. Then there's Fred Taylor who shares with MJD and getting right around 18-20 touches a game the last few weeks.

I know Gore will drag himself out there and always try and finish a game he started, plus the offense is playing much better with Hill.

Then there's Taylor, who's sat for me all year who always has the cloud hanging over him.

Do I mess with a good thing? Or stick with what got me into the Bowl. It's a difficult choice for me.

 
Oakland D does not travel, they have given up ridiculous rushing numbers on the road. I just went through their schedule, and just by memory the smallest rushing total for a starting RB was 133 yards.

They just give it up on the road.

 
Statcruncher said:
I'm in the same boat. I picked up Fred Taylor as insurance thinking I'd never need to play him as I have Portis and LT2. I don't like Portis' matchup against Minny and I think Oakland should yield tons of rushing yardage to Jacksonville. I have already plugged Taylor in and benched Clinton. Who knows, this will probably be the week he gets dinged on the first carry.
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I am making the exact same decision except I have Westbrook and not LT2. One thing I need to consider is Steckler vs Portis assuming Bush comes back.
 
Great thread. I too am facing a decision. As it stands I usually start LT, McGahee & Grant. Fred Taylor is replacing one of them - which one I am not sure. As of right now I am leaning towards benching Grant, but McGahee may be an option too. There's just no way I can bench LT regardless of the playing time question...

 
EFD said:
Great thread. I too am facing a decision. As it stands I usually start LT, McGahee & Grant. Fred Taylor is replacing one of them - which one I am not sure. As of right now I am leaning towards benching Grant, but McGahee may be an option too. There's just no way I can bench LT regardless of the playing time question...
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I'm in the same boat. I'm just concerned that if the teams that SD is jockeying for playoff positions with lose on Sunday, or if SD puts up a quick big lead, does LT play the whole game. Last week he got 23 points in a nonPPR league but that was only about half of the total points from the RB's last week....
 
TheFanatic said:
EFD said:
Great thread. I too am facing a decision. As it stands I usually start LT, McGahee & Grant. Fred Taylor is replacing one of them - which one I am not sure. As of right now I am leaning towards benching Grant, but McGahee may be an option too. There's just no way I can bench LT regardless of the playing time question...
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I'm in the same boat. I'm just concerned that if the teams that SD is jockeying for playoff positions with lose on Sunday, or if SD puts up a quick big lead, does LT play the whole game. Last week he got 23 points in a nonPPR league but that was only about half of the total points from the RB's last week....
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Am I missing the sarcasm smiley? LT rushed for 116 yards and 2 TD's in about a half of work and you would consider benching him?
 
Statcruncher said:
TheFanatic said:
EFD said:
Great thread. I too am facing a decision. As it stands I usually start LT, McGahee & Grant. Fred Taylor is replacing one of them - which one I am not sure. As of right now I am leaning towards benching Grant, but McGahee may be an option too. There's just no way I can bench LT regardless of the playing time question...
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I'm in the same boat. I'm just concerned that if the teams that SD is jockeying for playoff positions with lose on Sunday, or if SD puts up a quick big lead, does LT play the whole game. Last week he got 23 points in a nonPPR league but that was only about half of the total points from the RB's last week....
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Am I missing the sarcasm smiley? LT rushed for 116 yards and 2 TD's in about a half of work and you would consider benching him?
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I believe that SD can't go up or down in terms of playoff seeding. No real incentive to keep him in the game by Turner to keep him in. Also, what if they put up a bunch of points in the air (non LT) and they are looking at 44-10 at the half and LT only has 60 yards at that point. They are going to trot out Sproles again to get the yards and TD's....

 
TheFanatic said:
Statcruncher said:
TheFanatic said:
EFD said:
Great thread. I too am facing a decision. As it stands I usually start LT, McGahee & Grant. Fred Taylor is replacing one of them - which one I am not sure. As of right now I am leaning towards benching Grant, but McGahee may be an option too. There's just no way I can bench LT regardless of the playing time question...
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I'm in the same boat. I'm just concerned that if the teams that SD is jockeying for playoff positions with lose on Sunday, or if SD puts up a quick big lead, does LT play the whole game. Last week he got 23 points in a nonPPR league but that was only about half of the total points from the RB's last week....
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Am I missing the sarcasm smiley? LT rushed for 116 yards and 2 TD's in about a half of work and you would consider benching him?
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I believe that SD can't go up or down in terms of playoff seeding. No real incentive to keep him in the game by Turner to keep him in. Also, what if they put up a bunch of points in the air (non LT) and they are looking at 44-10 at the half and LT only has 60 yards at that point. They are going to trot out Sproles again to get the yards and TD's....
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San Diego is battling for the 3rd seed, and a chance to avoid NEhttp://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessionid=2...mp;confirm=true

 
TheFanatic said:
Statcruncher said:
TheFanatic said:
EFD said:
Great thread. I too am facing a decision. As it stands I usually start LT, McGahee & Grant. Fred Taylor is replacing one of them - which one I am not sure. As of right now I am leaning towards benching Grant, but McGahee may be an option too. There's just no way I can bench LT regardless of the playing time question...
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I'm in the same boat. I'm just concerned that if the teams that SD is jockeying for playoff positions with lose on Sunday, or if SD puts up a quick big lead, does LT play the whole game. Last week he got 23 points in a nonPPR league but that was only about half of the total points from the RB's last week....
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Am I missing the sarcasm smiley? LT rushed for 116 yards and 2 TD's in about a half of work and you would consider benching him?
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I believe that SD can't go up or down in terms of playoff seeding. No real incentive to keep him in the game by Turner to keep him in. Also, what if they put up a bunch of points in the air (non LT) and they are looking at 44-10 at the half and LT only has 60 yards at that point. They are going to trot out Sproles again to get the yards and TD's....
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I think SD can avoid playing NE and Jacksonville depending on how they play out the season but don't let that sway your decision about benching the most explosive fantasy player over the past 6 years who is leading all RB's in fantasy points scored this year.
 
Statcruncher said:
TheFanatic said:
Statcruncher said:
TheFanatic said:
EFD said:
Great thread. I too am facing a decision. As it stands I usually start LT, McGahee & Grant. Fred Taylor is replacing one of them - which one I am not sure. As of right now I am leaning towards benching Grant, but McGahee may be an option too. There's just no way I can bench LT regardless of the playing time question...
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I'm in the same boat. I'm just concerned that if the teams that SD is jockeying for playoff positions with lose on Sunday, or if SD puts up a quick big lead, does LT play the whole game. Last week he got 23 points in a nonPPR league but that was only about half of the total points from the RB's last week....
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Am I missing the sarcasm smiley? LT rushed for 116 yards and 2 TD's in about a half of work and you would consider benching him?
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I believe that SD can't go up or down in terms of playoff seeding. No real incentive to keep him in the game by Turner to keep him in. Also, what if they put up a bunch of points in the air (non LT) and they are looking at 44-10 at the half and LT only has 60 yards at that point. They are going to trot out Sproles again to get the yards and TD's....
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I think SD can avoid playing NE and Jacksonville depending on how they play out the season but don't let that sway your decision about benching the most explosive fantasy player over the past 6 years who is leading all RB's in fantasy points scored this year.
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I just said I considered it. Didn't say I did it. He's going for me. Not sure how to explain to the wife that we may have to wait till after 10:00 pm to open our presents on Christmas Eve with my family because I'll be watching LT and hoping for the greatest Christmas Gift of all - a Championship!?!?
 
Weather is supposed to be sunny and 70 so that shouldn't be a factor.

Fred's first alternate and the Jags as a whole are probably pretty ticked that they've got 10 wins and not a single player is going to Honolulu.

After Sunday's performance the team all chanted Fred's name after JDR gave him the game ball. The team wants to prove something for Fred.

And, oh, yeah, it's Week 16 and this is one of the few meaningful games this week. The Jags really gagged down the stretch last year and I think a lot of the team is trying to clinch ASAP.

 
I think Taylor has another strong game. I think MJD also has a good game. If JAX jumps on OAK early then I'm not sure why they would over work Fred. I'm actually playing MJD based on this premise.

 
I was able to acquire Fred just this week. An owner added him illegally in week 10 and I just discovered it this week. I posted up to the board that Fred was illegally acquired and the owner was forced to release him. Of course in the same post, I stated my intent to drop Kenton Keith and acquire Taylor. Sucks for him, he lost a bench tiebreaker because of if, Fred would have given him the win, but in all reality he wasn't legally acquired in the first place so I don't feel guilty. I've made it to the finals with Kenny Watson and Addai. I feel much better with Fred Taylor and Addai!

 
Routilla said:
I think Taylor has another strong game. I think MJD also has a good game. If JAX jumps on OAK early then I'm not sure why they would over work Fred. I'm actually playing MJD based on this premise.
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Obviously I have no idea what Del Rio is planning. But I can tell you that local fans would like nothing better than for Fred to break off about 200 yards on the Raiders. There are already plans for the fans to chant Fred- die, Fred-die, for the entire first series. The fans expect to beat the Raiders, now they want the Jags to run Taylor down their throats.
 
I need 2 of these in PPR

Taylor vs. Oak

Grant vs. Chi

Jacobs vs. Buff

Taylor value slips a bit in a PPR. Not sure what I will do???

 
Starting MJD because they BOTH should have a good game. I don't see them featuring Taylor. I don't place much credence in this 'local' talk; the split should be consistent with the season.

 
NJ OAK said:
Starting MJD because they BOTH should have a good game. I don't see them featuring Taylor. I don't place much credence in this 'local' talk; the split should be consistent with the season.
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Taylor has gotten roughly 16 carries to Jones-Drew's 11 on average this season.
 
When I wrote 'local talk' I was referring to the posts about Jax deliberately trying to get him more work, I am aware of the traditional split for this year. If he gets even the average that you state, he should produce nicely this week.

 
elpasotexan said:
Wow. Projections for subscribers has him in the mid 20s. For RBs. The Rodney Dangerfield of RBs.
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Are there some FBG's around that would care to explain?as of yet, I havent heard a single down note on Taylor. . . .only positive.Also, anyone have thoughts on where Fred falls on their list?
 
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