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Gopher State
Footballguy
Or we can go to "Hall is the next great Denver running back" watch
Bizkiteer
Footballguy
Just goes to show that maybe it's not a clear cut as we were led to believe earlier on.
This is what I thought. They had all weekend plus yesterday, you think they'd have a decision by now. Are they still in Arizona, perhaps this is being affected by being in a different time zone. My thinking is that if it's taking this long, maybe Henry actually won the appeal?
PatrickT
Footballguy
Do we have an "Andre Hall will save your FF season" thread yet?
I read an article (I think it was NFL.com) that Henry said the same thing. What I also read in that article was that it said Henry passed a urine test a couple days before and after the failed test.ETA Link: http://www.milehighreport.com/story/2007/11/17/195745/12Last night during the game, the sideline reporter said she had a conversation with Henry's lawyer and quoted him as saying "the preceding went very, very well."
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
well i just hancuffed hall to young to henry so I expect this mess to keep going all season long
munchkin
Footballguy
No way you can cheat those urine tests.......I read an article (I think it was NFL.com) that Henry said the same thing. What I also read in that article was that it said Henry passed a urine test a couple days before and after the failed test.ETA Link: http://www.milehighreport.com/story/2007/11/17/195745/12Last night during the game, the sideline reporter said she had a conversation with Henry's lawyer and quoted him as saying "the preceding went very, very well."
skillz
Footballguy
Adam Schefter said on NFL Total Access last week that he expected a decision to either come down today, and, if not, the decision would not be issued until the following Tuesday. He said the NFL doesn't want to issue a decision in the middle of the week since that would affect the Broncos' game planning. So, if we don't get a decision today, I think we will have to wait until next Tuesday.
Chris Mortenson predicted on NFL Countdown last night that Henry would lose his appeal -- although he is not a lawyer and his prediction was based purely on speculation.
Chris Mortenson predicted on NFL Countdown last night that Henry would lose his appeal -- although he is not a lawyer and his prediction was based purely on speculation.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I hope Henry gets suspended like he should.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
LOL - whizzinatorNo way you can cheat those urine tests.......I read an article (I think it was NFL.com) that Henry said the same thing. What I also read in that article was that it said Henry passed a urine test a couple days before and after the failed test.ETA Link: http://www.milehighreport.com/story/2007/11/17/195745/12Last night during the game, the sideline reporter said she had a conversation with Henry's lawyer and quoted him as saying "the preceding went very, very well."
I'm just stating what I read. And the fact that if it was so open and shut as everyone thinks, you have to consider that they may actually let him get off.No way you can cheat those urine tests.......I read an article (I think it was NFL.com) that Henry said the same thing. What I also read in that article was that it said Henry passed a urine test a couple days before and after the failed test.ETA Link: http://www.milehighreport.com/story/2007/11/17/195745/12Last night during the game, the sideline reporter said she had a conversation with Henry's lawyer and quoted him as saying "the preceding went very, very well."
Max Power
Footballguy
http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/pages/N...mp;pageId=3.2.1
DENVER - Just four days after Denver Broncos Running Back Travis Henry participated in a hearing to fight the results of a positive marijuana test, a source with first-hand knowledge of the situation said they believe Henry has a chance at winning his appeal on a technicality.
“He’s got a shot to win this. They [the National Football League] f****d up,” said the inside source.
Last Friday, at the downtown Hyatt in Phoenix Arizona, lawyers defended Henry’s case in his requested appeal hearing.
Prior to the appeal hearing, Henry’s lawyers asked the League to turn over all documents related to Henry’s latest positive test result that existed two weeks prior to, and two weeks after the actual test, the source said.
“Henry’s lawyers asked [the League] ‘is this all?’ They were told ‘yes.’ They asked again, ‘is this all?’ They were told, ‘yes.’ Well it was not all,” the source revealed.
The same source said -to their knowledge- it was unknown that there were un-produced materials in the discovery process prior to the appeal.
The source said this miscue may be enough to allow the hearing officer to rule in Henry’s favor, and thereby result in the Broncos running back escaping a one-year suspension.
“It’s an issue of fairness. If the players are held to a strict stance, everybody else has to abide by the same policy.”
“Did it have an effect? Maybe, or maybe not. The fact is, it could have potentially affected his case.”
This sentiment comes despite the fact that Henry tested positive for marijuana with a result of 21ng/ml. The League’s benchmark is 15ng/ml.
When asked if the hearing officer might recommend a shorter suspension as a compromise, given the lack of complete discovery, the source expressed doubt.
“My guess is that it’s going to be all or nothing,” they said. “I don’t think that the hearing officer has the power to modify the suspension [length].”
“The only reason why [Henry] would have a favorable ruling is because of that screw up.”
On November 12th, Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan defended the innocence of his starting running back after announcing that Henry had passed both a lie detector and hair sample test.
However, the source does not believe the team-scheduled tests will have any bearing on the hearing officer’s decision.
According to the source, the line of questioning from the lie detector test was introduced as evidence during the appeal hearing, but it was not impressive.
“There were questions like…‘did you smoke a marijuana joint between these such and such dates?”
“What’s wrong with that? It doesn’t ask you if you smoked the marijuana from a bong or a pipe,” answered the inside source.
“The question should have been, did you knowingly ingest marijuana,” explained the source.
“There is a reason why the League doesn’t use hair sample tests and lie detector tests; they’re not reliable,” opined the source.
Henry has said that a decision on his appeal is expected as early as Tuesday.
Calls to Henry’s lawyers were not immediately returned for this report.
DENVER - Just four days after Denver Broncos Running Back Travis Henry participated in a hearing to fight the results of a positive marijuana test, a source with first-hand knowledge of the situation said they believe Henry has a chance at winning his appeal on a technicality.
“He’s got a shot to win this. They [the National Football League] f****d up,” said the inside source.
Last Friday, at the downtown Hyatt in Phoenix Arizona, lawyers defended Henry’s case in his requested appeal hearing.
Prior to the appeal hearing, Henry’s lawyers asked the League to turn over all documents related to Henry’s latest positive test result that existed two weeks prior to, and two weeks after the actual test, the source said.
“Henry’s lawyers asked [the League] ‘is this all?’ They were told ‘yes.’ They asked again, ‘is this all?’ They were told, ‘yes.’ Well it was not all,” the source revealed.
The same source said -to their knowledge- it was unknown that there were un-produced materials in the discovery process prior to the appeal.
The source said this miscue may be enough to allow the hearing officer to rule in Henry’s favor, and thereby result in the Broncos running back escaping a one-year suspension.
“It’s an issue of fairness. If the players are held to a strict stance, everybody else has to abide by the same policy.”
“Did it have an effect? Maybe, or maybe not. The fact is, it could have potentially affected his case.”
This sentiment comes despite the fact that Henry tested positive for marijuana with a result of 21ng/ml. The League’s benchmark is 15ng/ml.
When asked if the hearing officer might recommend a shorter suspension as a compromise, given the lack of complete discovery, the source expressed doubt.
“My guess is that it’s going to be all or nothing,” they said. “I don’t think that the hearing officer has the power to modify the suspension [length].”
“The only reason why [Henry] would have a favorable ruling is because of that screw up.”
On November 12th, Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan defended the innocence of his starting running back after announcing that Henry had passed both a lie detector and hair sample test.
However, the source does not believe the team-scheduled tests will have any bearing on the hearing officer’s decision.
According to the source, the line of questioning from the lie detector test was introduced as evidence during the appeal hearing, but it was not impressive.
“There were questions like…‘did you smoke a marijuana joint between these such and such dates?”
“What’s wrong with that? It doesn’t ask you if you smoked the marijuana from a bong or a pipe,” answered the inside source.
“The question should have been, did you knowingly ingest marijuana,” explained the source.
“There is a reason why the League doesn’t use hair sample tests and lie detector tests; they’re not reliable,” opined the source.
Henry has said that a decision on his appeal is expected as early as Tuesday.
Calls to Henry’s lawyers were not immediately returned for this report.
Rounders
Footballguy
Interesting....
Cawbird
Footballguy
O.K......even IF Henry wins the appeal, does anyone get the feeling that Shanny may play the same games that he has in years past?
If Henry comes back here is what owners will be dealing with:
1. Most Denver RB's are banged up
2. Henry wasn't lighting the world on fire when he was in there. He had the yards but minimal TD's
3. Selvin Young has filled in pretty well but can't stay healthy.
Since I have dealt with Shanny's games in the past, just a gut feeling that this doesn't look too good.
If Henry comes back here is what owners will be dealing with:
1. Most Denver RB's are banged up
2. Henry wasn't lighting the world on fire when he was in there. He had the yards but minimal TD's
3. Selvin Young has filled in pretty well but can't stay healthy.
Since I have dealt with Shanny's games in the past, just a gut feeling that this doesn't look too good.
packersfan
Footballguy
If Henry wins the appeal and is healthy, he starts and gets the vast majority of the carries. Of that I'm 100% certain.
Agreed. It's not like Young has been dominate. He has had one good game, and a couple solid games. Nothing spectacular, and I'm fairly certain that if Henry had played in those games (and was healthy) he'd most likely produce better stats.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Will he get healthy in time to help people make playoffs?? Thats the question. He's been nursing various injuries for over a month now. Or will he be this annoying gimp that gives Young/Henry owners headaches every week?
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Most likely the latter.
footballnerd
Footballguy
No Henry announcement today
By Bill Williamson
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 11/20/2007 03:28:28 PM MST
There will be no announcement on a ruling on Travis Henry's appeal hearing today, meaning the running back will likely be available to face the Bears on Sunday if healthy.
A league spokesman said there will be no announcement made today. Under usual league guidelines, once the work week starts on Wednesday and teams start preparations for the next game in earnest there are no rulings that affect personnel.
Thus, Denver likely won't hear Henry's fate until next Monday at the earliest. He had his appeal on a pending one-year suspension for marijuana heard Friday in Phoenix.
Henry has missed the past two games with a knee injury.
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7517129
By Bill Williamson
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 11/20/2007 03:28:28 PM MST
There will be no announcement on a ruling on Travis Henry's appeal hearing today, meaning the running back will likely be available to face the Bears on Sunday if healthy.
A league spokesman said there will be no announcement made today. Under usual league guidelines, once the work week starts on Wednesday and teams start preparations for the next game in earnest there are no rulings that affect personnel.
Thus, Denver likely won't hear Henry's fate until next Monday at the earliest. He had his appeal on a pending one-year suspension for marijuana heard Friday in Phoenix.
Henry has missed the past two games with a knee injury.
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7517129
Tenacious
Footballguy
I love how we jump to conclusions in FF. Selvin has a mild knee sprain, comes back into the game and appears to be fine going forward, but somehow we still assume he's fragile because of one inconsequential injury.
EdwardCat
Footballguy
People are quick to apply the fragile label to anyone who gets injured. They tend to forget the humanity of the people on the field and how difficult this game is...how absurdly brutal it is. They also forget how their own injuries have prevented them from doing things. Yet even in the face of that, they whine about how so-and-so is being a baby and not playing. It gets so tiring. Playing through a nagging injury is not being a man...it is being stupid.
I believe they are referring to his injuries throughout college. (I'm not sure but I vaguelly recall last night on MNF them featuring how he was always hurt in college and is dampened his career)
footballnerd
Footballguy
Dont matter how fragile you were in college, no one is safe from the crazy injury bug this year. It's taking no prisoners.....
massraider
Footballguy
It'd be better if he were hurt. It'd be a quick end for those owners looking for lightning in a bottle.Tenacious said:
