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mad sweeney
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My homer choice is Earl Thomas.
theglorydays
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I don't think he is one of the 10 fastest backs in the league. He's very quick and shifty, but his top end speed isn't very good.
http://www.med.unsw.edu.au/NDARCWeb.nsf/resources/NDARCFact_Drugs2/$file/HGH+NDARC+FACT+SHEET.pdf"One of the most common side effects of hGH misuse is acromegaly. The onset of this disorderbegins with an overgrowth of bone and connective tissue that leads to a change in facialappearance, such as a protruding jaw and eyebrow bones. Acromegaly can also lead toabnormal growth of the hands and feet, and a shortened life expectancy."Coincidentally, he has the same forehead and jaw as every dude in the WWE.He has had a remarkable weight gain from 165 lbs as a junior in high school to 225 lbs as a red shirt freshman at USC. Sixty pounds of muscle mass added in three years rising to a 81 lb gain by his final year at USC when his weight was 246 lbs. Once they start testing for HGH this may be put to rest one way or the other.HOF bloodlines.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
He isn't on roids. He's got some of the best genetics in the NFL. That was my only point.So his uncle taught him how to do roids. It's not a biggie.
It is your purple-shaded glasses without a doubt. There is a laundry list of exceptional WRs still waiting to get into the hall. Andre Johnson and Calvin Johnson are going to get in if they stay healthy. Great WRs like V-Jax and Miles Austin stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting in. And Percy Harvin of all people is going to get in? Not a chance.
footballnerd
Footballguy
the return of Bo Knows....
Spin
Footballguy
Khy
Footballguy
I'm 99% sure his best 40 time was 4.25. Compared to CJ2K's 4.24 at the combine I'd say he is definitely up there. I could be wrong about 4.25 but I remember reason about that when he was coming into the league.
Garrett
Footballguy
Came here to post this.
Perfect Tommy
Footballguy
Raji is not merely a beast, he is the LYNCHPIN of the GB defense. Take Raji out and the other team will run up the gut for seven yards a carry. Raji plays almost every play. The Packers proved they could win the SB without Finley. I think they would have a shot even if Flynn had to replace A-Rod. But if they lose Raji, it is all over. They simply cannot stop other teams without their lynchpin. He is on an excellent hall of fame trajectory.
Here you go..
FYPHe isn't on roids. He's got some can afford some of the best genetics in the NFL. That was my only point.So his uncle taught him how to do roids. It's not a biggie.
I said before the draft he would play in the NFL for 12 years or so and go to a bunch of probowls.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
In 2004... 7 years ago. McCoy isn't that fast and it's rare anyone is that fast. McCoy ran a 4.52 at his pro day.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
Juron Criner
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Ok. Not sure what that means.FYPHe isn't on roids. He's got some can afford some of the best genetics in the NFL. That was my only point.So his uncle taught him how to do roids. It's not a biggie.
azgroover
Footballguy
good choice. class of 07 though.
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
How bout start by trying to get a receiving TD first? He's closer to Hall of Shame rather than Hall of Fame at the moment.
dcgangstas
Footballguy
That was my pick. Good choice.
Suh is the obvious one.
Mike Wallace has a very very small chance, considering the WRs that have NOT made it.
JPP isn't as much of a sleeper pick as someone mentioned. He's a physical anomaly playing in a very high profile position and he will get results.
Raji and Matthews are also possibilities.
I do think the whole "Matthews is on juice" thing is overblown. Not saying he isn't, but gaining that type of weight with the family genetics he has isn't that big of a deal. Dude comes from a family that has produced, what, 8 NFL football players? Hell, he could go back 30 years and he'd be the lightest Matthews playing, even back in 1980(ish)
I went from 167 in my junior year to almost 225 by the time I was 21, and I was in the Army, running all the time, no steroids in the least.
Mike Wallace has a very very small chance, considering the WRs that have NOT made it.
JPP isn't as much of a sleeper pick as someone mentioned. He's a physical anomaly playing in a very high profile position and he will get results.
Raji and Matthews are also possibilities.
I do think the whole "Matthews is on juice" thing is overblown. Not saying he isn't, but gaining that type of weight with the family genetics he has isn't that big of a deal. Dude comes from a family that has produced, what, 8 NFL football players? Hell, he could go back 30 years and he'd be the lightest Matthews playing, even back in 1980(ish)
I went from 167 in my junior year to almost 225 by the time I was 21, and I was in the Army, running all the time, no steroids in the least.
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
No love for Arian Foster? Agree with the DMC and Finley mentions on offense. All mentioned on defense seems like slam dunks so far in their young careers.
AmosMoses
Footballguy
Crappy point, dude.He isn't on roids. He's got some of the best genetics in the NFL. That was my only point.So his uncle taught him how to do roids. It's not a biggie.
AmosMoses
Footballguy
Flash in the pan.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
very
Reepicheep
Footballguy
Crappy allegations, dude.Crappy point, dude.He isn't on roids. He's got some of the best genetics in the NFL. That was my only point.So his uncle taught him how to do roids. It's not a biggie.
eraclansing
Footballguy
Surprised nobody has mentioned Eric Berry. I would also throw in AJ Green.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
This is ridiculous.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
He has 11 receiving TDs. Plus 3 KR TDs and 1 rushing.Or are you saying the HoF only count stats from the 2011 season?He's the type of play maker that has a shot, unless his team continues to do absolutely nothing for several years.How bout start by trying to get a receiving TD first? He's closer to Hall of Shame rather than Hall of Fame at the moment.
No.
Cushing and Matthews are a joy to watch and are so young that if they improve at all, I'd put them in this projections to make the Hall category.
Bradford is an obvious guess here. Above I probably went with some obvious too.
Pettigrew would be my out on a limb guy. He's quite an athlete but a tenth of a second here or there has made people not lump him in with Cook, Gresham and other top athletic "specimens." He is. He soooo is. It's game speed or somesuch and you have to see it. The other thing is like all great TEs before him, he can somehow stick his hand out and catch a ball while draped by a few defenders that look like little kids trying to tackle their big brother. He was a very good blocker day one and.... I bet he's a big deal by the end of this year. He's everything we all describe around draft time that we want TEs to be. He's almost perfect including his get to work attitude. He's got the same reaction on his fifth catch as he does on his first, on a long gainer as on a short one. I really think it's only a matter of time til he is a media darling.
Bradford is an obvious guess here. Above I probably went with some obvious too.
Pettigrew would be my out on a limb guy. He's quite an athlete but a tenth of a second here or there has made people not lump him in with Cook, Gresham and other top athletic "specimens." He is. He soooo is. It's game speed or somesuch and you have to see it. The other thing is like all great TEs before him, he can somehow stick his hand out and catch a ball while draped by a few defenders that look like little kids trying to tackle their big brother. He was a very good blocker day one and.... I bet he's a big deal by the end of this year. He's everything we all describe around draft time that we want TEs to be. He's almost perfect including his get to work attitude. He's got the same reaction on his fifth catch as he does on his first, on a long gainer as on a short one. I really think it's only a matter of time til he is a media darling.
allnight33
Footballguy
Unless I missed him already mentioned, one future lock down corner in Joe Haden....
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Pettigrew is a very good TE in a league with some great TEs. Will be difficult for him to distinguish himself from the rest. I like Pettigrew but with TEs like Finley, Gronkowski, Hernandez, Witten, Clark, Davis and up-and-comers like Moore, Graham and others, it'll be very hard to get in.
I don't disagree on most. I think he's young enough that Clark and Witten won't be wholly considered as the same era. (hard to word) However difficult it is, I do believe he will make it. I think being special enough to surpass many of the guys you mentioned is deserving of the hall and quite a tall order for him to do. Surely the odds are against it. I do think, for the sake of this thread, that I can take that position in a discussion though.
Khy
Footballguy
The point of this though was Glorydays didn't think he was in the Top 10 backs in football in terms of speed. Not whether or not people slow down with age.
How did you feel about Stafford last year?
It's no coincidence, that all through college, Cushing and Matthews were linked to steroid rumours.. and then they hit the NFL, and Cushing get's caught.. Cushing had allegations going back to high school.http://www.med.unsw.edu.au/NDARCWeb.nsf/resources/NDARCFact_Drugs2/$file/HGH+NDARC+FACT+SHEET.pdf"One of the most common side effects of hGH misuse is acromegaly. The onset of this disorderbegins with an overgrowth of bone and connective tissue that leads to a change in facialappearance, such as a protruding jaw and eyebrow bones. Acromegaly can also lead toabnormal growth of the hands and feet, and a shortened life expectancy."Coincidentally, he has the same forehead and jaw as every dude in the WWE.He has had a remarkable weight gain from 165 lbs as a junior in high school to 225 lbs as a red shirt freshman at USC. Sixty pounds of muscle mass added in three years rising to a 81 lb gain by his final year at USC when his weight was 246 lbs. Once they start testing for HGH this may be put to rest one way or the other.
AmosMoses
Footballguy
Shame on Ted Lange.Crappy allegations, dude.Crappy point, dude.He isn't on roids. He's got some of the best genetics in the NFL. That was my only point.So his uncle taught him how to do roids. It's not a biggie.
JPP. Like someone said, better each game and his ceiling is limitless. Guy is already 280 lbs (and can probably hold 290-300 w/o slowing down), quick, ragdolls blockers, plays both the pass and run better than justin tuck. Pretty amazing for a guy that's played about 40 football games in his entire life.
You see physical freaks all the time, but not with his attitude & work ethic and steep learning curve.
You see physical freaks all the time, but not with his attitude & work ethic and steep learning curve.
East Coast Bias
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Ryan Mallet
