Game Thread W13 - Oakland V San Diego (1 Viewer)

[Garts]

good to know that Bush is now the TD back for Oakland. McFadden isn't getting touches in the red zone. If this holds he has no value to me...

McFadden 7 yard td...quit panicking

 

[delusional]

Rivers have any temper tantrums yet?

 

[Soxwhat]

How does Gates look coming off the line? Stat line looks pretty good, just curious if he's releasing well.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

How does Gates look coming off the line? Stat line looks pretty good, just curious if he's releasing well.

He looks ok. Not sure he will be motivated to play injured in the meaningless games to come.

 

[Vision6]

Sweep of SD

just like old times

 

[Tau837]

Wasn't online earlier, so couldn't comment until now.

Surprised to see no mention of the phantom defensive holding call on Cason in here. That looked like a bad call to me, and it was on a 3rd down that wasn't converted. The Raiders would have punted to the Chargers with the Chargers down 21-13, but having just scored a TD on the previous drive, with about 8 minutes remaining. Instead, the Raiders drove on for a McFadden TD.

It might not have changed the outcome, but it was a huge call, and IMO seemed like a bad call. The announcers agreed.

 

[dickey moe]

These guys are the Cowboys of the AFC.

 

[jonessed]

Sure looked like McClain led with his helmet, but with Sproles so short, not sure what else you can do

Sproles took 3 "Sproles" size steps which made him a eligible runner to hit.

You still can't hit helmet to helmet.

Helmets hitting is NOT a penalty unless the runner is in a defenseless position, which Sproles wasn't.That said, it was TERRIBLE technique. Defenders have a bad habit in recent years of trying too hard to hit hard, and rarely wrapping up.

Yes it is. You can't lead with your helmet and hit another player in the head. The league is just more protective of defenseless players.

 

[Choke]

You still can't hit helmet to helmet.

Helmets hitting is NOT a penalty unless the runner is in a defenseless position, which Sproles wasn't.That said, it was TERRIBLE technique. Defenders have a bad habit in recent years of trying too hard to hit hard, and rarely wrapping up.

Yes it is. You can't lead with your helmet and hit another player in the head. The league is just more protective of defenseless players.

Ray Anderson, NFL executive vice president of football operations, has been the point man in the league's crackdown on illegal hits to the head and neck.

He's been quoted everywhere the past week explaining the league's concern with the rash of brutal hits and adjustments in league discipline going forward.

We caught up with Anderson in a telephone interview as the week wound down.



Q: Why wasn't the James Harrison hit on Josh Cribbs considered an illegal hit?

A: Because he was a runner. He was not defenseless under our rules. So he had a chance on his own to protect himself. So he wasn't under the category of defenseless player per the rules. Exposed? Yeah, but he was a runner. Runners aren't protected from helmet to helmet hits under the current rules.

 

[jonessed]

You still can't hit helmet to helmet.

Helmets hitting is NOT a penalty unless the runner is in a defenseless position, which Sproles wasn't.That said, it was TERRIBLE technique. Defenders have a bad habit in recent years of trying too hard to hit hard, and rarely wrapping up.

Yes it is. You can't lead with your helmet and hit another player in the head. The league is just more protective of defenseless players.

Ray Anderson, NFL executive vice president of football operations, has been the point man in the league's crackdown on illegal hits to the head and neck.

He's been quoted everywhere the past week explaining the league's concern with the rash of brutal hits and adjustments in league discipline going forward.

We caught up with Anderson in a telephone interview as the week wound down.



Q: Why wasn't the James Harrison hit on Josh Cribbs considered an illegal hit?

A: Because he was a runner. He was not defenseless under our rules. So he had a chance on his own to protect himself. So he wasn't under the category of defenseless player per the rules. Exposed? Yeah, but he was a runner. Runners aren't protected from helmet to helmet hits under the current rules.

Interesting. I always thought spearing someone in the head, helmet first, was illegal under the current rules. How do you interprete this?Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8 (Unnecessary roughness) in the NFL rulebook

(f) If a player uses any part of his helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/”hairline” parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily. Although such violent or unnecessary use of the helmet and facemask is impermissible against any opponent, game officials will give special attention in administering this rule to protecting those players who are in virtually defenseless postures, including but not limited to:

 

[Choke]

There is a difference between H-T-H hits and spearing.

1) To USE your helmet.

2) To have you helmet hit another player.

Those are two different applications.

I had to go through this over and over with some guy named NinerFan or something (infuriating).

 

[silentmark]

Sweep of SDjust like old times

What a beautiful thing ... Can Oakland win out ? Makes this upcoming Jax game HUGE ...