Game Thread W3 - Cincinnati V Pittsburgh (1 Viewer)

[SoFresh&SoClean]

Okay here goes:

I know that the recent success of the Bengals has spawned a lot of new fans to the game especially in the Cincy area. A whole new generation of fans are emerging and it's a breath of fresh air for the city. The drought in the 90s alienated a decade of potential fans that have just recently re-emerged for better of for worse; many of whom are in the 15-25 year-old range. Being a long-time, dedicated fan, it pains me when new, immature fans that don't particularly know what they are talking about make a whole slew of loyal fans look dumb. Just know that some understand what's going on. I appreciate the new support and the intensity of which the new guys bring to the stadium and local bars and even the forums, but please try not to make outlandish statements bases solely on passion. I know I used to be super-protective of my beloved Bengals, but I like to think I've matured in my fandom and now can think things out. I don't mind when people make Steeler bashing remarks if it's done solely to get under the skin of the bad guys. If you know exactly what you're doing and how to go about it, then that makes a rivalry more fun. I feel bad for the fans of teams that don't have a Pittsburgh Steelers to fuel the fans fire. It's all in good spirits and for the love of football. Pittsburgh and Cincinnati are very similar in their ways, and it's that similarity that makes the rivalry even deeper (at least to me it does).

Alright, I'll get off my soapbox now, sorry.

 

[grandmaster192]

I'm became a Bengal fan when they got Carson Palmer. I love that guy ant the overall team of the Begals. Carson palmer is one of my favorite players and IMO the best QB in the NFL. I don't see the problem with this. I like most people am gonna support my favorite players. I understand what you are saying, but in the NFL rosters a changed so much that people are gonna like al kinds of teams. For example....alot of fans love to watch the Colts play and feel that they are most exiting team to watch and are a fan favorite. This is kinda how I feel about the Bengals. I love seeing them play and I love there players to Death. However I do not live in Cincinnaty so I'm probably not gonna love the franchise the same way that I home town fan would. I really don't see a problem with this. There not my favorite team because there the Bengals....There my favorite team because of the roster and the way they play.

 

[pizzatyme]

I'm became a Bengal fan when they got Carson Palmer. I love that guy ant the overall team of the Begals. Carson palmer is one of my favorite players and IMO the best QB in the NFL. I don't see the problem with this. I like most people am gonna support my favorite players. I understand what you are saying, but in the NFL rosters a changed so much that people are gonna like al kinds of teams. For example....alot of fans love to watch the Colts play and feel that they are most exiting team to watch and are a fan favorite. This is kinda how I feel about the Bengals. I love seeing them play and I love there players to Death. However I do not live in Cincinnaty so I'm probably not gonna love the franchise the same way that I home town fan would. I really don't see a problem with this. There not my favorite team because there the Bengals....There my favorite team because of the roster and the way they play.

Say wut?

 

[Irish]

I'm became a Bengal fan when they got Carson Palmer. I love that guy ant the overall team of the Begals. Carson palmer is one of my favorite players and IMO the best QB in the NFL. I don't see the problem with this. I like most people am gonna support my favorite players. I understand what you are saying, but in the NFL rosters a changed so much that people are gonna like al kinds of teams. For example....alot of fans love to watch the Colts play and feel that they are most exiting team to watch and are a fan favorite. This is kinda how I feel about the Bengals. I love seeing them play and I love there players to Death. However I do not live in Cincinnaty so I'm probably not gonna love the franchise the same way that I home town fan would. I really don't see a problem with this. There not my favorite team because there the Bengals....There my favorite team because of the roster and the way they play.

Say wut?

What is trying to say is that he really is not a Bengals fan, but that he has man-love for Carson.

 

[knowledge dropper]

it's just nice to see that this team really had no business winning a super bowl.roethlisberger straight up sucks.

If somone had just started watching Roethlisberger in the Super Bowl last year, I could understand that logic.He was THE reason the Steelers made it to the Super Bowl last year, but played poorly in the big game. I don't know whether it's because of his offseason stuff or the surgery or whatever, but he's looked very, very rusty the past 2 weeks. No denying that.To say he sucks is pretty assinine though. He's been fantastic so far in his young career. The guy we've seen the past 2 weeks isn't the same guy we watched last year or the year before. His accuracy on the run just isn't there right now.

Kimo's cheap shot on Carson is the reason the steelers were in the super bowl

Unbelievable that one hit in one game earned them three victories. BEST. HIT. EVAH!Good analysis on calling it a cheap shot, too. What was he possibly thinking as a defensive lineman trying to actually get to the QB during a long pass play? The nerve.

It's funny how the NFL came up with the Kimo rule during the offseason to penalize 15 yards for going low on a QB. Yeah it was clean....

 

[Kirby]

it's just nice to see that this team really had no business winning a super bowl.roethlisberger straight up sucks.

If somone had just started watching Roethlisberger in the Super Bowl last year, I could understand that logic.He was THE reason the Steelers made it to the Super Bowl last year, but played poorly in the big game. I don't know whether it's because of his offseason stuff or the surgery or whatever, but he's looked very, very rusty the past 2 weeks. No denying that.To say he sucks is pretty assinine though. He's been fantastic so far in his young career. The guy we've seen the past 2 weeks isn't the same guy we watched last year or the year before. His accuracy on the run just isn't there right now.

Kimo's cheap shot on Carson is the reason the steelers were in the super bowl

Unbelievable that one hit in one game earned them three victories. BEST. HIT. EVAH!Good analysis on calling it a cheap shot, too. What was he possibly thinking as a defensive lineman trying to actually get to the QB during a long pass play? The nerve.

It's funny how the NFL came up with the Kimo rule during the offseason to penalize 15 yards for going low on a QB. Yeah it was clean....

I think the qb should have flags that you have to pull.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

Congrats Bengal fans.

That's a nice win for you.

TJ and Henry impressed me. They made some tough tough catches in traffic.

Kudos on the "W".

 

[Kirby]

Congrats Bengal fans.That's a nice win for you.TJ and Henry impressed me. They made some tough tough catches in traffic. Kudos on the "W".

I think it's going to be tough to cover these guys. Johnson already demands double coverage, and Henry will soon. And TJ doesn't suck. They're going to be tough.

 

[Godsbrother]

I'm staying out of the BS that's being posted here. The Bengals capitalized on the Steelers mistakes, 21 points off of turnovers, and won the game. I didn't think they played all that great yesterday but they made fewer mistakes. If I were a Bengals fan I would be ecstatic so no sour grapes from me.

I did go to the game and had the following observations:

1) Carson Palmer is taking a page out of Peyton Manning's book when he seemingly audibles on most passing plays. Obviously Palmer and Manning are great QBs but it sure gets tiresome to watch.

2) What was the deal with the taunting calls yesterday? I didn't see anything blatant but sometimes you miss stuff while you're at the game. The really weird thing was the one called against safety Mike Logan. The ref that threw the flag was right in front of our seats, which was the opposite sideline from where the tackle was made. He must have seen something but it is strange that kind of flag is thrown by the official on the opposite side of the field.

3) Ricardo Colclough's muffed punt was one of the worst attempts to catch a punt that I have ever seen. Trying to catch a punt with your shoulder pads? Unexcusable for a professional football player. If he ever is back for another punt return Bill Cowher should have his head examined.

4) The thing that bothers me the most about Big Ben this year has been his decision making. The pick in the endzone was nonsense: Miller wasn't open and there were 3 defenders there, there was no reason to force it.. He also took a sack that made the botched FG attempt a lot longer than it had to be -- there was plenty of time for him to throw the ball away. Ben needs to play smarter.

 

[beavers]

I'm staying out of the BS that's being posted here. The Bengals capitalized on the Steelers mistakes, 21 points off of turnovers, and won the game. I didn't think they played all that great yesterday but they made fewer mistakes. If I were a Bengals fan I would be ecstatic so no sour grapes from me.

I did go to the game and had the following observations:

1) Carson Palmer is taking a page out of Peyton Manning's book when he seemingly audibles on most passing plays. Obviously Palmer and Manning are great QBs but it sure gets tiresome to watch.

2) What was the deal with the taunting calls yesterday? I didn't see anything blatant but sometimes you miss stuff while you're at the game. The really weird thing was the one called against safety Mike Logan. The ref that threw the flag was right in front of our seats, which was the opposite sideline from where the tackle was made. He must have seen something but it is strange that kind of flag is thrown by the official on the opposite side of the field.

3) Ricardo Colclough's muffed punt was one of the worst attempts to catch a punt that I have ever seen. Trying to catch a punt with your shoulder pads? Unexcusable for a professional football player. If he ever is back for another punt return Bill Cowher should have his head examined.

4) The thing that bothers me the most about Big Ben this year has been his decision making. The pick in the endzone was nonsense: Miller wasn't open and there were 3 defenders there, there was no reason to force it.. He also took a sack that made the botched FG attempt a lot longer than it had to be -- there was plenty of time for him to throw the ball away. Ben needs to play smarter.

Putting injuries aside, it does not make up for the forced decisions made by Ben.

 

[Kirby]

3) Ricardo Colclough's muffed punt was one of the worst attempts to catch a punt that I have ever seen. Trying to catch a punt with your shoulder pads? Unexcusable for a professional football player. If he ever is back for another punt return Bill Cowher should have his head examined.

I noticed he did this later on in the game too but caught it. Cowher needs to smack him upside the head. You learn that stuff in pee wee.

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

I'm staying out of the BS that's being posted here. The Bengals capitalized on the Steelers mistakes, 21 points off of turnovers, and won the game. I didn't think they played all that great yesterday but they made fewer mistakes. If I were a Bengals fan I would be ecstatic so no sour grapes from me.I did go to the game and had the following observations:1) Carson Palmer is taking a page out of Peyton Manning's book when he seemingly audibles on most passing plays. Obviously Palmer and Manning are great QBs but it sure gets tiresome to watch.2) What was the deal with the taunting calls yesterday? I didn't see anything blatant but sometimes you miss stuff while you're at the game. The really weird thing was the one called against safety Mike Logan. The ref that threw the flag was right in front of our seats, which was the opposite sideline from where the tackle was made. He must have seen something but it is strange that kind of flag is thrown by the official on the opposite side of the field.3) Ricardo Colclough's muffed punt was one of the worst attempts to catch a punt that I have ever seen. Trying to catch a punt with your shoulder pads? Unexcusable for a professional football player. If he ever is back for another punt return Bill Cowher should have his head examined. 4) The thing that bothers me the most about Big Ben this year has been his decision making. The pick in the endzone was nonsense: Miller wasn't open and there were 3 defenders there, there was no reason to force it.. He also took a sack that made the botched FG attempt a lot longer than it had to be -- there was plenty of time for him to throw the ball away. Ben needs to play smarter.

On point two, Logan called Brad St. Louis a foul name that I heard said on TV, after I rewinded it, because I thought I heard something. It was rather loud too.

 

[yellowdog]

I'm staying out of the BS that's being posted here. The Bengals capitalized on the Steelers mistakes, 21 points off of turnovers, and won the game. I didn't think they played all that great yesterday but they made fewer mistakes. If I were a Bengals fan I would be ecstatic so no sour grapes from me.

I did go to the game and had the following observations:

1) Carson Palmer is taking a page out of Peyton Manning's book when he seemingly audibles on most passing plays. Obviously Palmer and Manning are great QBs but it sure gets tiresome to watch.

2) What was the deal with the taunting calls yesterday? I didn't see anything blatant but sometimes you miss stuff while you're at the game. The really weird thing was the one called against safety Mike Logan. The ref that threw the flag was right in front of our seats, which was the opposite sideline from where the tackle was made. He must have seen something but it is strange that kind of flag is thrown by the official on the opposite side of the field.

3) Ricardo Colclough's muffed punt was one of the worst attempts to catch a punt that I have ever seen. Trying to catch a punt with your shoulder pads? Unexcusable for a professional football player. If he ever is back for another punt return Bill Cowher should have his head examined.

4) The thing that bothers me the most about Big Ben this year has been his decision making. The pick in the endzone was nonsense: Miller wasn't open and there were 3 defenders there, there was no reason to force it.. He also took a sack that made the botched FG attempt a lot longer than it had to be -- there was plenty of time for him to throw the ball away. Ben needs to play smarter.

On point two, Logan called Brad St. Louis a foul name that I heard said on TV, after I rewinded it, because I thought I heard something. It was rather loud too.

After he completely laid him out, I think he said "Get up #####!"

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

Yeah. That's the ticket.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Yeah. That's the ticket.

LOL, are you saying he got a penalty for calling another player a name?

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

Yeah. That's the ticket.

LOL, are you saying he got a penalty for calling another player a name?

Isn't that a rule that you can't call other players profanities? Or am I totally off here?

 

[Steelers4Life]

Yeah. That's the ticket.

LOL, are you saying he got a penalty for calling another player a name?

Isn't that a rule that you can't call other players profanities? Or am I totally off here?

Honestly, I have no idea. Just sounds funny. I can't too many plays go by without someone calling someone else a name.

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

I was always under the impression that if the officials heard someone call someone else a naughty word then it's unsportsmanlike conduct.

 

[Godsbrother]

I was always under the impression that if the officials heard someone call someone else a naughty word then it's unsportsmanlike conduct.

Could be. But you would think they would be throwing flags left and right if that was the case...

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

I was always under the impression that if the officials heard someone call someone else a naughty word then it's unsportsmanlike conduct.

Could be. But you would think they would be throwing flags left and right if that was the case...

I don't know. Since it was said so loudly, they may have felt it neccessary to throw the flag.

 

[Godsbrother]

I was always under the impression that if the officials heard someone call someone else a naughty word then it's unsportsmanlike conduct.

Could be. But you would think they would be throwing flags left and right if that was the case...

I don't know. Since it was said so loudly, they may have felt it neccessary to throw the flag.

Good point. He must have said it loud because it was the official on the other sideline that threw the flag.

 

[Family Matters]

You've been beat at your own game by 2 teams that were more physical than you.

C'mon dude....I'm staying out of this for the most part....Cinci won, I've offered my congrats. Cinci should be gloating now...pit has talked #### for a while and here's your day in the sun. Enjoy. Jacksonville spanked us, and I'll be the first to admit that today. What happened today with Cinci's win was not even close to getting being beaten by a team that was "more physical" than PIT. And in saying that, i'm not at all trying to belittle Cincy's win today. But what you're saying isn't even close to reality.

VERY That's what I was trying to get at with my previous post. After we got spanked by JAX and Cincy looking good for 2 games, I was very worried about today's game. After the game, even though we lost and it pisses me off, I feel better about the Steelers. JAX outplayed us and beat us. CIN did not outplay us, but did beat us. That is a scary way to win games consistently ... relying on the TOs.

Guess I fell better knowing that the Bengals won by creating TO's as opposed to haveing it handed to them by the refs. At least we know we won tha game on the field.As for the physical part, if you watched the game here's what happeneditt was very physical early on and really took it to the Bengals. After they scored that TD and promply had a 1st and goal I thought this is the game. Pitt was more physical and made plays while Cinncy wasn't even giving them a game in return. So after taking the besr the Steelers could dish out what happened? We took your best punch and then we showed you what we were made of. We took your best physical shots and did not crack. We took the best blows you had on your field and responed with plays of our own. We continued to make adjustments that won the game while the Steelers were focused on the wrong things.Look if being physical and stopping CJ were the keys to winning then you should've won. But apparently that's not how it goes. Apparently you have to do more than stop the run. Apparently you have to do more run the ball. As it turns out you have to make plays in all three phases of the game. You guys were good 2 things but it takes more than that agaisnt a good team. You have to be good in all areas to beat good teams and the Steelers were not.We were physical because we took your best shots and responded with plays. If you can't the Bengals at home with that type of play then your team is serious trouble. What used to be the Steeler trade mark was to intimdate teams with that style of play. Guess what? It didn't work against the better team today. If the Steelers are going to beat the Bengals they need some lucky breaks like in last year's playoffs. They didn't get that today and they lost. No help form the officials. No help from Palmer going out to injury. No help from the intimidation factor. And then what did the Steelers have? Nothing else to lean on. I truely hope that Pitts makes the playoffs and we meet again. I would like to see how it turns out when the injuries and poorly judged "flags" officals are not present. I bet the Bengals are a better team again. But hey, that's just what I saw.Oh and 1 last thing. It's clear from the posts in this thread that Steeler fans while they can say cograts, they just can't accept that the Bengals are the better team. Bengals 3-0. Steelers 1-2 and now 3 games down. I think it's time you accept what happened and hope for some type of major comeback before it's too late. I'll be rooting for you!

 

[shuke]

Who Dey?We Dey!!!!

Nice to see this before the Bengals took it to the Steelers. That was a sweet win for the Bengals. Wonder what Porter is saying now?

You know what is ironic is that the two players who couldn't keep their mouths shut were the ones who disappeared during the game and had minimal effect on the outcome of the game. Congrats on the win Bengals fans, until we meet again.

Does anyone know if that pre-game midfield altercation was staged?

 

[shuke]

There are 2 things that I bet are true, but it is just my opinion:1) Most Steeler fans are not worried about the Bengals, even though we lost today.2) Most Bengal fans are worried (if they are honest with themselves), even though they won today.

I was worried prior to today's game about what effect missing Braham, Pollack, and Dexter Jackson would have. But right now, the only thing Bengals fans have to be worried about are the Ravens. Not sure if that's what you're referring to.

You're more worried about a team that barely (and I mean BARELY) beat the Browns and whose three opponents have collectively failed to win a game this year than you are about the defending Super Bowl champions who have lost close games to two playoff teams from the year before.Sure, that makes sense.How quickly people forget. I just spewed reasons for Steeler fans to be worried in a previous post. However, less than 10 months ago the Bengals left Pittsburgh in first place with a 2 game plus tiebreaker lead and the Steelers no longer even controlled their playoff destiny. Sound familiar. We all know how that turned out.

What part of "right now" don't you understand?

The part where you say you're more worried about the Ravens. You're a very witty guy, and that means you've got enough intelligence to understand my post without the cute replies.

Right now I'm more worried about the Ravens than I am about the Steelers. Again, in case you missed it, I'm talking about RIGHT NOW.

 

[Steelers4Life]

You've been beat at your own game by 2 teams that were more physical than you.

C'mon dude....I'm staying out of this for the most part....Cinci won, I've offered my congrats. Cinci should be gloating now...pit has talked #### for a while and here's your day in the sun. Enjoy. Jacksonville spanked us, and I'll be the first to admit that today. What happened today with Cinci's win was not even close to getting being beaten by a team that was "more physical" than PIT. And in saying that, i'm not at all trying to belittle Cincy's win today. But what you're saying isn't even close to reality.

VERY That's what I was trying to get at with my previous post. After we got spanked by JAX and Cincy looking good for 2 games, I was very worried about today's game. After the game, even though we lost and it pisses me off, I feel better about the Steelers. JAX outplayed us and beat us. CIN did not outplay us, but did beat us. That is a scary way to win games consistently ... relying on the TOs.

Guess I fell better knowing that the Bengals won by creating TO's as opposed to haveing it handed to them by the refs. At least we know we won tha game on the field.As for the physical part, if you watched the game here's what happeneditt was very physical early on and really took it to the Bengals. After they scored that TD and promply had a 1st and goal I thought this is the game. Pitt was more physical and made plays while Cinncy wasn't even giving them a game in return. So after taking the besr the Steelers could dish out what happened? We took your best punch and then we showed you what we were made of. We took your best physical shots and did not crack. We took the best blows you had on your field and responed with plays of our own. We continued to make adjustments that won the game while the Steelers were focused on the wrong things.Look if being physical and stopping CJ were the keys to winning then you should've won. But apparently that's not how it goes. Apparently you have to do more than stop the run. Apparently you have to do more run the ball. As it turns out you have to make plays in all three phases of the game. You guys were good 2 things but it takes more than that agaisnt a good team. You have to be good in all areas to beat good teams and the Steelers were not.We were physical because we took your best shots and responded with plays. If you can't the Bengals at home with that type of play then your team is serious trouble. What used to be the Steeler trade mark was to intimdate teams with that style of play. Guess what? It didn't work against the better team today. If the Steelers are going to beat the Bengals they need some lucky breaks like in last year's playoffs. They didn't get that today and they lost. No help form the officials. No help from Palmer going out to injury. No help from the intimidation factor. And then what did the Steelers have? Nothing else to lean on. I truely hope that Pitts makes the playoffs and we meet again. I would like to see how it turns out when the injuries and poorly judged "flags" officals are not present. I bet the Bengals are a better team again. But hey, that's just what I saw.Oh and 1 last thing. It's clear from the posts in this thread that Steeler fans while they can say cograts, they just can't accept that the Bengals are the better team. Bengals 3-0. Steelers 1-2 and now 3 games down. I think it's time you accept what happened and hope for some type of major comeback before it's too late. I'll be rooting for you!

FM, we all understand why the Bengals won. They deserved it. I hardly think what you saw yeseterday was the Steelers' best punch, but that doesn't matter. To beat the Bengals, the Steelers don't need lucky breaks at all. They just need to not turn the ball over, and that applies when they face ANY good team.It wasn't because Palmer played especially well, and it wasn't because Rudi ran well at all. It wasn't because the Bengals' defense did a good job controlling the Steelers' offense.They did a great job taking advantage of turnovers. A fantastic job. In the last 3 matchups NOT including the playoff game, the Bengals have won two hard-fought games and the Steelers won once. The common theme in both of the Bengals wins has been turnovers, and that's part of the game.

 

[jetpack]

You've been beat at your own game by 2 teams that were more physical than you.

C'mon dude....I'm staying out of this for the most part....Cinci won, I've offered my congrats. Cinci should be gloating now...pit has talked #### for a while and here's your day in the sun. Enjoy. Jacksonville spanked us, and I'll be the first to admit that today. What happened today with Cinci's win was not even close to getting being beaten by a team that was "more physical" than PIT. And in saying that, i'm not at all trying to belittle Cincy's win today. But what you're saying isn't even close to reality.

VERY That's what I was trying to get at with my previous post. After we got spanked by JAX and Cincy looking good for 2 games, I was very worried about today's game. After the game, even though we lost and it pisses me off, I feel better about the Steelers. JAX outplayed us and beat us. CIN did not outplay us, but did beat us. That is a scary way to win games consistently ... relying on the TOs.

Guess I fell better knowing that the Bengals won by creating TO's as opposed to haveing it handed to them by the refs. At least we know we won tha game on the field.As for the physical part, if you watched the game here's what happeneditt was very physical early on and really took it to the Bengals. After they scored that TD and promply had a 1st and goal I thought this is the game. Pitt was more physical and made plays while Cinncy wasn't even giving them a game in return. So after taking the besr the Steelers could dish out what happened? We took your best punch and then we showed you what we were made of. We took your best physical shots and did not crack. We took the best blows you had on your field and responed with plays of our own. We continued to make adjustments that won the game while the Steelers were focused on the wrong things.Look if being physical and stopping CJ were the keys to winning then you should've won. But apparently that's not how it goes. Apparently you have to do more than stop the run. Apparently you have to do more run the ball. As it turns out you have to make plays in all three phases of the game. You guys were good 2 things but it takes more than that agaisnt a good team. You have to be good in all areas to beat good teams and the Steelers were not.We were physical because we took your best shots and responded with plays. If you can't the Bengals at home with that type of play then your team is serious trouble. What used to be the Steeler trade mark was to intimdate teams with that style of play. Guess what? It didn't work against the better team today. If the Steelers are going to beat the Bengals they need some lucky breaks like in last year's playoffs. They didn't get that today and they lost. No help form the officials. No help from Palmer going out to injury. No help from the intimidation factor. And then what did the Steelers have? Nothing else to lean on. I truely hope that Pitts makes the playoffs and we meet again. I would like to see how it turns out when the injuries and poorly judged "flags" officals are not present. I bet the Bengals are a better team again. But hey, that's just what I saw.Oh and 1 last thing. It's clear from the posts in this thread that Steeler fans while they can say cograts, they just can't accept that the Bengals are the better team. Bengals 3-0. Steelers 1-2 and now 3 games down. I think it's time you accept what happened and hope for some type of major comeback before it's too late. I'll be rooting for you!

Man, you switch out the names of the teams to Steelers and Seahawks and you sound just like one of us Steeler fans after the Superbowl. The fact is, the Bengals put up far worse stats and shouldn't have won the game, but like you said, and just like we Steeler fans said after the Superbowl, you did, and that's because you took advantage of opportunities. Who cares whether its Palmer's knee, Roeth's appendectomy, close ref calls, Vanderjajt's worst kick ever, or whatever. If you Bengal fans want to accept this game as Cincy's right to brag you need to likewise accept the Steeler's Superbowl run last year. Can't have it both ways.

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

Well, let's not act like it's as simple as not turning over the ball. That's what the Bengals D has prided themselves on and that's what they are able to do; it's an aspect to their game and skills. They all have above-average hands in the secondary and fairly good hands at LB. Plus, they have been drilled ever since Marvin's rule on how to force fumbles and get into position to make the picks. I remember a number of articles in Marvin's early HCing career that alluded to this.

Also, the Steelers were given plenty of opportunities by a weak showing from Carson and an injured offensive line. How many fumbles could the Steelers have recovered but did not? Three? Four? Luck is where opportunity meets preparation. The Bengals seemed more prepared for this kind of game.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Well, let's not act like it's as simple as not turning over the ball. That's what the Bengals D has prided themselves on and that's what they are able to do; it's an aspect to their game and skills. They all have above-average hands in the secondary and fairly good hands at LB. Plus, they have been drilled ever since Marvin's rule on how to force fumbles and get into position to make the picks. I remember a number of articles in Marvin's early HCing career that alluded to this. Also, the Steelers were given plenty of opportunities by a weak showing from Carson and an injured offensive line. How many fumbles could the Steelers have recovered but did not? Three? Four? Luck is where opportunity meets preparation. The Bengals seemed more prepared for this kind of game.

Well, I think it's as simple as turnovers for 2 reasons. And believe me, that's not taking anything away from the Bengals, because they put themselves in position to do that... The Steelers didn't turn the ball over in Cincy last year and dominated the game from start to finish. They ran for something like 230 yards and forced Palmer to play from behind the whole game.The Steelers lost by 7 last year in Heniz Field after turning it over 4 times and giving up a special teams TD. If you've have told me that would happen, I'd guess the Steelers woud've lost by 20.And yesterday, the Steelers were in control of the game before the muffed punt and subsequent fumble. And a turnover - a stupid, stupid pass - stopped them from going up 14-0 in the first quarter. If the Bengals are playing from 2 touchdowns down early in the game, ya think it might be a different game? Turnovers killed them.And I know the Steelers had opportunities to recover more fumbles and intercept more passes. Neither team played their best game yesterday, and the Bengals deserved to win for making fewer mistakes. I hope when they meet again the Bengals are all healthy, and I hope Polamalu is healthy and Ben's back to normal on the Steelers side.

 

[jetpack]

Well, let's not act like it's as simple as not turning over the ball. That's what the Bengals D has prided themselves on and that's what they are able to do; it's an aspect to their game and skills. They all have above-average hands in the secondary and fairly good hands at LB. Plus, they have been drilled ever since Marvin's rule on how to force fumbles and get into position to make the picks. I remember a number of articles in Marvin's early HCing career that alluded to this. Also, the Steelers were given plenty of opportunities by a weak showing from Carson and an injured offensive line. How many fumbles could the Steelers have recovered but did not? Three? Four? Luck is where opportunity meets preparation. The Bengals seemed more prepared for this kind of game.

I don't want to denigrate the Bengals win. Just like the Superbowl, your team was beat in the trenches but used the other team's mistakes as a means to victory. Congrats. I look forward to the rematch.

 

[Family Matters]

You've been beat at your own game by 2 teams that were more physical than you.

C'mon dude....I'm staying out of this for the most part....Cinci won, I've offered my congrats. Cinci should be gloating now...pit has talked #### for a while and here's your day in the sun. Enjoy. Jacksonville spanked us, and I'll be the first to admit that today. What happened today with Cinci's win was not even close to getting being beaten by a team that was "more physical" than PIT. And in saying that, i'm not at all trying to belittle Cincy's win today. But what you're saying isn't even close to reality.

VERY That's what I was trying to get at with my previous post. After we got spanked by JAX and Cincy looking good for 2 games, I was very worried about today's game. After the game, even though we lost and it pisses me off, I feel better about the Steelers. JAX outplayed us and beat us. CIN did not outplay us, but did beat us. That is a scary way to win games consistently ... relying on the TOs.

Guess I fell better knowing that the Bengals won by creating TO's as opposed to haveing it handed to them by the refs. At least we know we won tha game on the field.As for the physical part, if you watched the game here's what happeneditt was very physical early on and really took it to the Bengals. After they scored that TD and promply had a 1st and goal I thought this is the game. Pitt was more physical and made plays while Cinncy wasn't even giving them a game in return. So after taking the besr the Steelers could dish out what happened? We took your best punch and then we showed you what we were made of. We took your best physical shots and did not crack. We took the best blows you had on your field and responed with plays of our own. We continued to make adjustments that won the game while the Steelers were focused on the wrong things.Look if being physical and stopping CJ were the keys to winning then you should've won. But apparently that's not how it goes. Apparently you have to do more than stop the run. Apparently you have to do more run the ball. As it turns out you have to make plays in all three phases of the game. You guys were good 2 things but it takes more than that agaisnt a good team. You have to be good in all areas to beat good teams and the Steelers were not.We were physical because we took your best shots and responded with plays. If you can't the Bengals at home with that type of play then your team is serious trouble. What used to be the Steeler trade mark was to intimdate teams with that style of play. Guess what? It didn't work against the better team today. If the Steelers are going to beat the Bengals they need some lucky breaks like in last year's playoffs. They didn't get that today and they lost. No help form the officials. No help from Palmer going out to injury. No help from the intimidation factor. And then what did the Steelers have? Nothing else to lean on. I truely hope that Pitts makes the playoffs and we meet again. I would like to see how it turns out when the injuries and poorly judged "flags" officals are not present. I bet the Bengals are a better team again. But hey, that's just what I saw.Oh and 1 last thing. It's clear from the posts in this thread that Steeler fans while they can say cograts, they just can't accept that the Bengals are the better team. Bengals 3-0. Steelers 1-2 and now 3 games down. I think it's time you accept what happened and hope for some type of major comeback before it's too late. I'll be rooting for you!

Man, you switch out the names of the teams to Steelers and Seahawks and you sound just like one of us Steeler fans after the Superbowl. The fact is, the Bengals put up far worse stats and shouldn't have won the game, but like you said, and just like we Steeler fans said after the Superbowl, you did, and that's because you took advantage of opportunities. Who cares whether its Palmer's knee, Roeth's appendectomy, close ref calls, Vanderjajt's worst kick ever, or whatever. If you Bengal fans want to accept this game as Cincy's right to brag you need to likewise accept the Steeler's Superbowl run last year. Can't have it both ways.

Just to be clear, I was responding to the Steeler's fans bringing up the Super Bowl. Frankly I don't really care as I am not a Seahawk fan. It was said that they won despite getting outplayed in every aspect of the game they felt they desreved it regardless of getting poor officating, which really isn't disputable. But when they feel they've ouplayed the Bengals and lose for legitimate reasons such as turnovers they want to make excuses.Whatever makes them feel better about losing is fine by me. At the end of the day the Bengals did what they had to do. No help from outside influences withstanding.

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

Oh, I totally agree that the turnovers killed them. Maybe I should have said that avoiding turnovers against the Bengals defense has proven to be a daunting task for many teams over the past seasons, and it's not that simple. I agree that the picks and fumbles cost the Steelers the game, but really, the best thing the Bengals D has going for them is their ability to create turnovers. They will occasionally go out and let a team run all over them, but when an opportunity arises to force a turnover, they usually see to it that it happens, and that's what helps the offense look so good. It's all about momentum.

 

[Family Matters]

Well, let's not act like it's as simple as not turning over the ball. That's what the Bengals D has prided themselves on and that's what they are able to do; it's an aspect to their game and skills. They all have above-average hands in the secondary and fairly good hands at LB. Plus, they have been drilled ever since Marvin's rule on how to force fumbles and get into position to make the picks. I remember a number of articles in Marvin's early HCing career that alluded to this.

Also, the Steelers were given plenty of opportunities by a weak showing from Carson and an injured offensive line. How many fumbles could the Steelers have recovered but did not? Three? Four? Luck is where opportunity meets preparation. The Bengals seemed more prepared for this kind of game.

I can respect this post. I quote the luck definition all the time. It's the 1 statement that stands the test of time.Truth be told, the only reason I'm giving the Steeler fans so much grief is because they love to dish it out. And they've had the high ground for a long time. It's painfully obvious however that they don't handle failure well at all. Believe me, we understand. Remember we're Bengals fans we are not far removed from humility. So we'll enjoy this one and hope that our health stays with us as the season progresses. Also, I hope the Steelers rebound because this is a great rivalry and it's one worth enjoying.

 

[Steelers4Life]

But when they feel they've ouplayed the Bengals and lose for legitimate reasons such as turnovers they want to make excuses.

Steelers fans - at least most of them - have given the Bengals all the credit for winning. I know I have, several times. The reason they won is because of the turnovers, which is hardly making an excuse. It's part of the game, and the Bengals won because they made fewer mistakes and took full advantage of the Steelers' mistakes. The Steelers have won many, many games that way, including Super Bowl XL. Newspapers in Pittsburgh are ripping the mistakes the Steelers made, not taking anything away from the Bengals.What more can you really expect? Steelers fans watched a game yesterday that they were in position to win slip away because of turnovers, and that's all anyone is really saying.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

it = lame.

 

[Family Matters]

But when they feel they've ouplayed the Bengals and lose for legitimate reasons such as turnovers they want to make excuses.

Steelers fans - at least most of them - have given the Bengals all the credit for winning. I know I have, several times. The reason they won is because of the turnovers, which is hardly making an excuse. It's part of the game, and the Bengals won because they made fewer mistakes and took full advantage of the Steelers' mistakes. The Steelers have won many, many games that way, including Super Bowl XL. Newspapers in Pittsburgh are ripping the mistakes the Steelers made, not taking anything away from the Bengals.What more can you really expect? Steelers fans watched a game yesterday that they were in position to win slip away because of turnovers, and that's all anyone is really saying.

Then just say congrats you won fair and square and quit making excuses. Most of the posts from Steeler fans are trying justify the loss with things like "but we outplayed them". Clearly the Steelers didn't "outplay" them or they would've won. End of story.

 

[Family Matters]

it = lame.

Nice ACP. I thought we'd get better from you. Instead of giving creds you want to attack the fans? I remember we had a discussion last year and I gave you all kinds of cred (excpet for the SB issues I had) and that clearly the Steelers won. In fact we had a good discussion about "what if" Palmer hadn't beern injured. But the bottom line then was the Steelers won. Now when the bottom line has moved you respond with this? Nice.

 

[Steelers4Life]

But when they feel they've ouplayed the Bengals and lose for legitimate reasons such as turnovers they want to make excuses.

Steelers fans - at least most of them - have given the Bengals all the credit for winning. I know I have, several times. The reason they won is because of the turnovers, which is hardly making an excuse. It's part of the game, and the Bengals won because they made fewer mistakes and took full advantage of the Steelers' mistakes. The Steelers have won many, many games that way, including Super Bowl XL. Newspapers in Pittsburgh are ripping the mistakes the Steelers made, not taking anything away from the Bengals.What more can you really expect? Steelers fans watched a game yesterday that they were in position to win slip away because of turnovers, and that's all anyone is really saying.

Then just say congrats you won fair and square and quit making excuses. Most of the posts from Steeler fans are trying justify the loss with things like "but we outplayed them". Clearly the Steelers didn't "outplay" them or they would've won. End of story.

Again, losing because of turnovers isn't making excuses. It's what happened, and it's part of the game. It was a fair win in every way, not sure who said it wasn't.I don't think either team outplayed the other yesterday. The Steelers had more success moving the ball consistently on offense and had more success stopping the Bengals from moving it, but the scoreboard is really the only thing that matters. The difference in the game was the turnovers, and it's something no team can do if they expect to win a close game against a good team.

 

[jetpack]

But when they feel they've ouplayed the Bengals and lose for legitimate reasons such as turnovers they want to make excuses.

Steelers fans - at least most of them - have given the Bengals all the credit for winning. I know I have, several times. The reason they won is because of the turnovers, which is hardly making an excuse. It's part of the game, and the Bengals won because they made fewer mistakes and took full advantage of the Steelers' mistakes. The Steelers have won many, many games that way, including Super Bowl XL. Newspapers in Pittsburgh are ripping the mistakes the Steelers made, not taking anything away from the Bengals.What more can you really expect? Steelers fans watched a game yesterday that they were in position to win slip away because of turnovers, and that's all anyone is really saying.

Then just say congrats you won fair and square and quit making excuses. Most of the posts from Steeler fans are trying justify the loss with things like "but we outplayed them". Clearly the Steelers didn't "outplay" them or they would've won. End of story.

I think you're likely to find people talking about why their team may have won or lost a game in a game thread. You may call it justifying but I think others would call it analzying. It's human nature Man. Especially true if the home team loses.

 

[3MTA3]

But when they feel they've ouplayed the Bengals and lose for legitimate reasons such as turnovers they want to make excuses.

Steelers fans - at least most of them - have given the Bengals all the credit for winning. I know I have, several times. The reason they won is because of the turnovers, which is hardly making an excuse. It's part of the game, and the Bengals won because they made fewer mistakes and took full advantage of the Steelers' mistakes. The Steelers have won many, many games that way, including Super Bowl XL. Newspapers in Pittsburgh are ripping the mistakes the Steelers made, not taking anything away from the Bengals.What more can you really expect? Steelers fans watched a game yesterday that they were in position to win slip away because of turnovers, and that's all anyone is really saying.

Then just say congrats you won fair and square and quit making excuses. Most of the posts from Steeler fans are trying justify the loss with things like "but we outplayed them". Clearly the Steelers didn't "outplay" them or they would've won. End of story.

Again, losing because of turnovers isn't making excuses. It's what happened, and it's part of the game. It was a fair win in every way, not sure who said it wasn't.I don't think either team outplayed the other yesterday. The Steelers had more success moving the ball consistently on offense and had more success stopping the Bengals from moving it, but the scoreboard is really the only thing that matters. The difference in the game was the turnovers, and it's something no team can do if they expect to win a close game against a good team.

Seriously, just forget it. Trying to explain this to him is like trying to smoke crack and go to sleep.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

it = lame.

Nice ACP. I thought we'd get better from you. Instead of giving creds you want to attack the fans? I remember we had a discussion last year and I gave you all kinds of cred (excpet for the SB issues I had) and that clearly the Steelers won. In fact we had a good discussion about "what if" Palmer hadn't beern injured. But the bottom line then was the Steelers won. Now when the bottom line has moved you respond with this? Nice.

That's flatly in response to you talking about gifts from the refs and trying to wrap it in a bunch of nice-speak. I gave Cincy their props multiple times in the thread and then you come in and rehash tired old crap from last year, which *IS* remarkably lame. So I'm not really going to lose any sleep with your thumbsdown to me.