Game Thread W6 - Seattle V Chicago (1 Viewer)

[gigantor]

It's good to see the old Hester this year

 

[CutlerToCutler]

It's good to see the old Hester this year

indeed. I thought he was through

 

[gigantor]

Didn't deserve to win this one

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Didn't deserve to win this one

 

[RBM]

Disgusting loss. Piss poor performance on both sides of the ball and for the coaches.

O/U - 6 wins this year?

 

[CutlerToCutler]

Someone please inflict bodily harm on Mike Martz. tia. :breaksleg:

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Disgusting loss. Piss poor performance on both sides of the ball and for the coaches.O/U - 6 wins this year?

Settle down.

 

[CutlerToCutler]

As far as I'm concerned, we might as well be 2-4. Maybe I can watch from Heaven one day when the Bears organization is returned prominence.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Manning with a fantastic KR for a TD and a mysterious holding call brings it backdid anyone see the hold?

Late post, but it was on #36, not 58 like the ref called. Got him twice actually.

 

[mbuehner]

Amazing how quickly Martz forgot that great first drive. Stunning what can happen when you balance your play calling and call plays that dont make the QB hold the ball for 5 seconds.

 

[Arch Stanton]

BOOM! Safety!! Go Hawks!!!Are there even any Seahawk fans in here..?

In here? I don't think there are anywhere out there either

Too busy watching the game and hoping not to find out I was dreaming. Okung and Lynch were difference makers. About 4 or 5 times Lynch turned what would've been 3rd and long into 3rd and manageable and the only time they talked about Peppers was to mention that he wasn't doing anything. Hass must've heard that his job was on the line too because that was the best game he's played in a LONG time.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Punter got freaking rocked

Not that he deserved to get hurt (and I hope he's ok because he's a phenomenal punter and should've shared team MVP last year with Mare). but everybody involved in kicking the ball to Hester deserved to get hit. A punt that goes out of bounds at the LoS is better than kicking it to Hester! My poor dog ran into the other room with her tail between her legs because of all the yelling and throwing things I was doing.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

BOOM! Safety!! Go Hawks!!!Are there even any Seahawk fans in here..?

In here? I don't think there are anywhere out there either

Too busy watching the game and hoping not to find out I was dreaming. Okung and Lynch were difference makers. About 4 or 5 times Lynch turned what would've been 3rd and long into 3rd and manageable and the only time they talked about Peppers was to mention that he wasn't doing anything. Hass must've heard that his job was on the line too because that was the best game he's played in a LONG time.

Okung is great.

 

[Arch Stanton]

BOOM! Safety!! Go Hawks!!!Are there even any Seahawk fans in here..?

In here? I don't think there are anywhere out there either

Too busy watching the game and hoping not to find out I was dreaming. Okung and Lynch were difference makers. About 4 or 5 times Lynch turned what would've been 3rd and long into 3rd and manageable and the only time they talked about Peppers was to mention that he wasn't doing anything. Hass must've heard that his job was on the line too because that was the best game he's played in a LONG time.

Okung is great.

He looked pretty bad against the Rams but that was without really practicing since the 1st pre-season game and with a still gimpy ankle. Having two weeks of practice, minus the off days, really made a difference. Can't wait to reaad the FieldGulls breakdown of his play today. Great weekend of sports for me, went to a Kings win (they tied their all time wins record last year and all 6 games I bought tix for were losses) and the Hawks win their first meaningful road game against a team with a winning record in as long as I can remember. And now, against anything I hold holy, I am rooting for the Raiders to win and let the "favorites" in the NFCW fall to 0-6.

 

[FavreCo]

Amazing how quickly Martz forgot that great first drive. Stunning what can happen when you balance your play calling and call plays that dont make the QB hold the ball for 5 seconds.

You mean the most over rated hack OC in NFL history? Winner with HOF candidates at all skill positions and loser everywhere else? That Mike Martz?

 

[CutlerToCutler]

Punter got freaking rocked

Not that he deserved to get hurt (and I hope he's ok because he's a phenomenal punter and should've shared team MVP last year with Mare). but everybody involved in kicking the ball to Hester deserved to get hit. A punt that goes out of bounds at the LoS is better than kicking it to Hester! My poor dog ran into the other room with her tail between her legs because of all the yelling and throwing things I was doing.

My dog knows to stay in the other room when I'm watching the Bears, since yelling makes up about 90% of the time.

 

[CutlerToCutler]

Even before this game, the Bears were last in the league in 3rd down pct by a pretty wide margin. Now, the difference in the Bears and the 31st team will be even larger.

 

[RBM]

Id love to know what the McCaskeys and that dope Ted Phillips think after watching this game? Do they even watch? I mean they are paying Jay Cutler a crap load of money. Do they get pissed seeing the beating he is taking? Do they want to hold someone accountable?

This franchise is ####ed!

 

[reprisal]

Disgusting loss. Piss poor performance on both sides of the ball and for the coaches.O/U - 6 wins this year?

Settle down.

Not that unreasonable a line IMO, look at the schedule. If that doesnt convince you its close, watch the tape.

 

[destro]

I was pleased with what Martz was doing the first few weeks, but what exactly has been going on since then? Wasn't it pretty clear to everyone that the OL blows and that short to intermediate routes are the way to go? Why must Martz only call plays that require a 16-step drop? Do we REALLY need to only run 40 yard square-ins and 50 yard posts?

Martz is better than this, but the coaching staff on the whole blows.

 

[Hooper31]

FWIW, Marshawn Lynch is still overrated.

Lynch had a big impact on this game, if not in the boxscore. I thought John Morgan at FieldGulls.com put it best.

While we're at it, statistics clearly do not properly measure the impact of a running back like Marshawn Lynch. His numbers today, well, they suck. Even accounting for the Bears run defense, there's no way Lynch doesn't look lousy to the box score skimmers and fantasy schmucks of the world. But Lynch was beastly, and his ability to moderate loss and pound forward and pound forward and pound forward, opened space over the middle for Matt Hasselbeck. It's crazy, Matt didn't look a whole lot better, but check his line and Hasselbeck completed 25 of 40 passes for 242 yards and a touchdown, in Soldier Field, against a legitimately good Bears pass defense.

 

[Hooper31]

Its not a surprise to see people lament Chicago and not give credit to the Seahawks for winning the game. In national post game shows when the talking heads give their wrap-ups the focus will remain on the larger media center and the things that the Bears did wrong. Little credit will go to the Seahawks for getting the win.

Gus Bradley did a great job of mixing up his blitzes and finding ways to bring pressure. Rookie LT Okung deserves a game ball for making Peppers invisible. At some point, it will be hard for people to not notice that the Seattle defense stops the run. When I say stops the run, I mean REALLY stops the run. People will whine about Martz not attempting to run the ball, but perhaps he is well aware of how futile its been this season when people run on the Seahawks. The Bears got 61 yards on the ground today, and 19 of that came from Cutler. So far this year Seattle is giving up an average of just over 70 yards per game on the ground and they have yet to yield a run of 20+ yards.

 

[Sweatpants]

I was pleased with what Martz was doing the first few weeks, but what exactly has been going on since then? Wasn't it pretty clear to everyone that the OL blows and that short to intermediate routes are the way to go? Why must Martz only call plays that require a 16-step drop? Do we REALLY need to only run 40 yard square-ins and 50 yard posts?Martz is better than this, but the coaching staff on the whole blows.

There are so many stats that completely contradict Martz's game plan every week. Why is it so hard for him to see? His knowledge is infinitely greater than the average fan out there but even we can see it. This is so dumb, for real

 

[reprisal]

Its not a surprise to see people lament Chicago and not give credit to the Seahawks for winning the game.

I give the Seahawks for being the better team today for sure. That is certainly not mutually exclusive with thinking the bears are terrible.

 

[gigantor]

Its not a surprise to see people lament Chicago and not give credit to the Seahawks for winning the game. In national post game shows when the talking heads give their wrap-ups the focus will remain on the larger media center and the things that the Bears did wrong. Little credit will go to the Seahawks for getting the win.Gus Bradley did a great job of mixing up his blitzes and finding ways to bring pressure. Rookie LT Okung deserves a game ball for making Peppers invisible. At some point, it will be hard for people to not notice that the Seattle defense stops the run. When I say stops the run, I mean REALLY stops the run. People will whine about Martz not attempting to run the ball, but perhaps he is well aware of how futile its been this season when people run on the Seahawks. The Bears got 61 yards on the ground today, and 19 of that came from Cutler. So far this year Seattle is giving up an average of just over 70 yards per game on the ground and they have yet to yield a run of 20+ yards.

Not to take anything away from Seattle, but the Bears cannot run the ball. Carolina is the only team they've looked solid against on the ground

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Its not a surprise to see people lament Chicago and not give credit to the Seahawks for winning the game.

I give the Seahawks for being the better team today for sure. That is certainly not mutually exclusive with thinking the bears are terrible.

I'd like to add that if Hoop is talking about the media he has a point. But if he's talking about the posters in this thread he shouldn't expect a bunch of Bear fans to NOT lament about their team and comment on how well the Seahawks played. They outplayed the Bears for sure but I'm (and I'm sure other Chicago fans are with me on this) more concerned with what's wrong with my team than what's good about Seattle.

 

[Hooper31]

Its not a surprise to see people lament Chicago and not give credit to the Seahawks for winning the game.

I give the Seahawks for being the better team today for sure. That is certainly not mutually exclusive with thinking the bears are terrible.

I'd like to add that if Hoop is talking about the media he has a point. But if he's talking about the posters in this thread he shouldn't expect a bunch of Bear fans to NOT lament about their team and comment on how well the Seahawks played. They outplayed the Bears for sure but I'm (and I'm sure other Chicago fans are with me on this) more concerned with what's wrong with my team than what's good about Seattle.

Yes, I'm referring to national media. I had NFL Playbook recorded on my DVR from this past week and just went back to see it again. Sharpe, Theisman, and Billick only talked about the Bears for 5 solid minutes and quickly all picked Chicago before moving onto the next game. Not a shocker.

 

[reprisal]

Yes, I'm referring to national media. I had NFL Playbook recorded on my DVR from this past week and just went back to see it again. Sharpe, Theisman, and Billick only talked about the Bears for 5 solid minutes and quickly all picked Chicago before moving onto the next game. Not a shocker.

(Almost) Every team goes through this. There is some sort of theoretical media perception power rankings thats only based loosely on capability. If two teams are separated by more then a few slots on that you'd think the match up looked as lopsided on paper as Steelers Browns to most of these guys. As Bears fans we've been getting to see a lot of both sides of that so far this season

 

[proninja]

Russell Okung makes me happy in ways that winning a single game in a year where we're not going to amount to much even if we do make the playoffs just can't.

 

[Sweatpants]

Some more great offensive stats:

29th in overall offense

27th ToP

1st in sacks allowed(27). 7 more than the 2nd most Philadelphia(20).

With 9 sacks by the defense, we have given up 18 more sacks that we have given. No one is even close to this one. I looked. Mind blowingly pathetic.

Last in 3rd down percentage at 18%. 8 percentage points behind the 2nd lowest Redskins at 26%

These aren't just horrible stats. They're league leading stats by a significant margin. Someone should be taken out back and shot for this

 

[ditka311]

Punter got freaking rocked

Not that he deserved to get hurt (and I hope he's ok because he's a phenomenal punter and should've shared team MVP last year with Mare). but everybody involved in kicking the ball to Hester deserved to get hit. A punt that goes out of bounds at the LoS is better than kicking it to Hester! My poor dog ran into the other room with her tail between her legs because of all the yelling and throwing things I was doing.

My dog knows to stay in the other room when I'm watching the Bears, since yelling makes up about 90% of the time.

I put Blues Brothers style chicken wire in front of my tv due to all of the things thrown at it.

 

[Sweatpants]

Punter got freaking rocked

Not that he deserved to get hurt (and I hope he's ok because he's a phenomenal punter and should've shared team MVP last year with Mare). but everybody involved in kicking the ball to Hester deserved to get hit. A punt that goes out of bounds at the LoS is better than kicking it to Hester! My poor dog ran into the other room with her tail between her legs because of all the yelling and throwing things I was doing.

My dog knows to stay in the other room when I'm watching the Bears, since yelling makes up about 90% of the time.

I put Blues Brothers style chicken wire in front of my tv due to all of the things thrown at it.

ahhhhh

 

[ArcticEdge]

Disgusting loss. Piss poor performance on both sides of the ball and for the coaches.O/U - 6 wins this year?

Sorry bro, need some more losses for the Vikes to have a chance. Hey, at least you have 1985. I got nothin.

 

[RushHour]

Cutler is making a case to be the most worthless player in fantasy right now. Unstartable....untradeable....just horrendous. I know a lot of it isn't his fault, but I would do anything to get this guy off my roster at this point.

 

[ArcticEdge]

Cutler is making a case to be the most worthless player in fantasy right now. Unstartable....untradeable....just horrendous. I know a lot of it isn't his fault, but I would do anything to get this guy off my roster at this point.

You got him?

 

[RootDown]

It's as if Cutler has never seen a blitz before. I agree the o-line is horrible and Martz needs to change up his play calling to adjust to his personnel, but Cutler can't seem to make any kind of read out there. He looks lost and constantly throws with horrible mechanics because he looks afraid to get hit. This guy is killing me this year and he doesn't have th intestinal fortitude to pull out of it.

I hope I'm wrong.

 

[TitusIII]

It's as if Cutler has never seen a blitz before. I agree the o-line is horrible and Martz needs to change up his play calling to adjust to his personnel, but Cutler can't seem to make any kind of read out there. He looks lost and constantly throws with horrible mechanics because he looks afraid to get hit. This guy is killing me this year and he doesn't have th intestinal fortitude to pull out of it. I hope I'm wrong.

In regards to his toughness, you are, he is about as "tough" as it gets at the QB position. There really isn't much he can do when a guy is in his face/closing in WAY before any defender should. I feel bad for him, his line, at least the pass blocking, is about as bad as any NFL team has EVER been...He took hit after hit at Vandy, suffering concussion after concussion, and now it is happening again, no QB, not Brady/Manning/Bradshaw/greatest QB you can name, would be doing much better behind this terrible line. He never complained, he takes the hit, gets up, and takes more...most QB's would have quit by now...

 

[pantagrapher]

Cutler does sometimes seem to have trouble stepping up in the pocket or making small moves to avoid blitzes instead of going into full-out panic. He looks a bit shellshocked at times, ready to take off the second he senses pressure.

There was an interesting comment I saw from one of the linemen (can't recall who it was) this morning regarding all the missed blitzes on the outside. He said something like "We understand we have to take the blame for not picking those up. There's a lack of communication." I wonder if he's implying that Cutler is not identifying blitzes that he should be calling out in his pre-snap reads. Could be nothing, but I couldn't help but wonder if that's what was being said.

 

[Sweatpants]

90% Martz. His refusal to change has magnified every problem. He's an ego driven jackass who would rather lose than admit he screwed up. The guy almost ended Warner's career before he left the Rams. He should be shot

 

[MDSkinner]

Cutler does sometimes seem to have trouble stepping up in the pocket or making small moves to avoid blitzes instead of going into full-out panic. He looks a bit shellshocked at times, ready to take off the second he senses pressure. There was an interesting comment I saw from one of the linemen (can't recall who it was) this morning regarding all the missed blitzes on the outside. He said something like "We understand we have to take the blame for not picking those up. There's a lack of communication." I wonder if he's implying that Cutler is not identifying blitzes that he should be calling out in his pre-snap reads. Could be nothing, but I couldn't help but wonder if that's what was being said.

This sounds to me like he is commenting on the communication between the linemen themselves. But I could be wrong. Both of us may be looking at this quote the way that we want to.