Gates practiced November 25 (1 Viewer)

[elbowrm]

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines...L&hl=192239

Eta: source acee tweet

http://mobile.twitter.com/sdutChargers/sta...879091051036673

 

[NorrisB]

started hernandez today

 

[JMon348]

started hernandez today

 

[notdarkyet]

 

[Bonka]

started hernandez today

same If he's back the rest of the season though I'm fine with it. Only really need him for the playoffs anyways.

 

[Hurl Bruce]

Great news...but sit him another week, please. I already started Pettigrew!

Even better is that I finally dumped Hernandez to pick him up.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Great news...but sit him another week, please. I already started Pettigrew!

x2

 

[gbill2004]

Antonio Gates revealed that he was in serious pain as he went through a limited practice Thursday.Gates splashed colt water on any optimism that came with him trying to practice. He grimaced through his interview session, saying "I'm incredibly sore." At this point, owners should have alternate plans in place. It would be a surprise if Gates is able to go against the Colts Sunday night.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Doesn't look great.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/no...-foot-practice/

 

[the spanker]

I have a bad feeling this guy won't play much the rest of the season.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I have a bad feeling this guy won't play much the rest of the season.

I don't think he'll play this week and they may sit him another. However, the Chargers have some big games down the stretch where he may play. I would start Gates withvone leg than all of these other bums like Gresham, Hernandez, and Graham. Trying to pick between those guys is ridiculous. In standard scoring, what did those guys get combined today, less than 10 points? Give me a break.

 

[jackdubl]

I have a bad feeling this guy won't play much the rest of the season.

I don't think he'll play this week and they may sit him another. However, the Chargers have some big games down the stretch where he may play. I would start Gates withvone leg than all of these other bums like Gresham, Hernandez, and Graham. Trying to pick between those guys is ridiculous. In standard scoring, what did those guys get combined today, less than 10 points? Give me a break.

From what I've heard about this injury, Gates is probably done. I've heard conjecture that he was given the option of surgery, which would end his season, or try to play through the pain. He obviously wants to play and help with a playoff run. But I've heard this injury won't improve on its own any time soon.

 

[shadyridr]

I have a bad feeling this guy won't play much the rest of the season.

I don't think he'll play this week and they may sit him another. However, the Chargers have some big games down the stretch where he may play. I would start Gates withvone leg than all of these other bums like Gresham, Hernandez, and Graham. Trying to pick between those guys is ridiculous. In standard scoring, what did those guys get combined today, less than 10 points? Give me a break.

From what I've heard about this injury, Gates is probably done. I've heard conjecture that he was given the option of surgery, which would end his season, or try to play through the pain then have surgery. He obviously wants to play and help with a playoff run. But I've heard this injury won't improve on its own any time soon.

Thats the opposite of everything Ive read. Basically a torn plantar fascia is something that needs to heal on its own.

 

[jackdubl]

I have a bad feeling this guy won't play much the rest of the season.

I don't think he'll play this week and they may sit him another. However, the Chargers have some big games down the stretch where he may play. I would start Gates withvone leg than all of these other bums like Gresham, Hernandez, and Graham. Trying to pick between those guys is ridiculous. In standard scoring, what did those guys get combined today, less than 10 points? Give me a break.

From what I've heard about this injury, Gates is probably done. I've heard conjecture that he was given the option of surgery, which would end his season, or try to play through the pain then have surgery. He obviously wants to play and help with a playoff run. But I've heard this injury won't improve on its own any time soon.

Thats the opposite of everything Ive read. Basically a torn plantar fascia is something that needs to heal on its own.

Correct. It will heal without surgery. Before week 16? That's another question. I don't really know anything. What I heard(from some other podcast, no doubt) was that Gates received additional info regarding the injury, which made him unhappy with what was initially told to him. He was given the option of surgery or healing. Healing would get him back on the field. Treatment usually involves 3-4 weeks in a removable cast with no weight-bearing. That's put Gates, what, one to two more weeks. Of course, the normal treatment is for non-athletes.

 

[zoonation]

Gates is done people. Start making other plans. Even if he suits up, he likely won't play a lot of downs or be very effective.

Love his heart though. Most guys wouldn't even be trying to get back out there with an injury like that.

 

[Sinrman]

Gates is done people. Start making other plans. Even if he suits up, he likely won't play a lot of downs or be very effective.Love his heart though. Most guys wouldn't even be trying to get back out there with an injury like that.

Gotta agree. This is not the type of injury where a week or two of rest will fix it. He needs the entire offseason to fix this. I can see him trying to make a push near the end of the regular season or the playoffs to try and get back in there and playing through the pain, but he's not going to be 100% healthy andalthough he may put up some points if and when he plays, you might want to consider other options. If you have a low-end TE as a backup, then you mighthave to hold out hope for Gates to come back sooner rather than later. Otherwise, plug the other in for now and hang on to Gates for fantasy playoffs (and prayhe's ok) or on to next season (if you play in a keeper/dynasty league).

 

[duaneok66]

Gates is done people. Start making other plans. Even if he suits up, he likely won't play a lot of downs or be very effective.Love his heart though. Most guys wouldn't even be trying to get back out there with an injury like that.

Post of the day . . .

 

[Gigantomachia]

Doesn't look great.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/no...-foot-practice/

Tight ends Randy McMichael (hamstring) and Kris Wilson (back) were the only other players to not practice.

From the same article. And as I understand the injury, Gates cannot do any more damage to it, so it is just a matter of pain. All things considered, I think the assumptions/hopes that Gates is done for the season--or even this week--are far from conclusive.4-40 and a TD this week. Book it.

 

[jackdubl]

Doesn't look great.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/no...-foot-practice/

Tight ends Randy McMichael (hamstring) and Kris Wilson (back) were the only other players to not practice.

From the same article. And as I understand the injury, Gates cannot do any more damage to it, so it is just a matter of pain. All things considered, I think the assumptions/hopes that Gates is done for the season--or even this week--are far from conclusive.4-40 and a TD this week. Book it.

Floyd and Nanee also not doing too well. Looking more and more like VJax will be a monster.

 

[Da Guru]

I have a bad feeling this guy won't play much the rest of the season.

That is how I am feeling right now. Gates sounded like he was in more pain now than ever. I picked up Superstar Jimmy Graham though should I am in great shape.

 

[TakiToki]

I have a bad feeling this guy won't play much the rest of the season.

That is how I am feeling right now. Gates sounded like he was in more pain now than ever.

I picked up Superstar Jimmy Graham though should I am in great shape.

 

[Doug B]

And as I understand the injury, Gates cannot do any more damage to it, so it is just a matter of pain.

I disagree with this, though you're right about the "no more damage" part. I'll quote myself from Pg 3 of the "Gates Conundrum" thread, as I made the same point there that I want to make here:
"He's got a torn plantar fascia and as Gates himself said, it's not a "tough guy" injury that you shoot up and play through. The man's foot is biomechanically compromised (again, not a doctor, no medical expertise, no facts, no evidence). It's not a pain issue -- if were, he'd be playing. The dude's foot is hamburger, and can't provided the stability to push off explosively. That means no full-speed running and for sure no cutting."

 

[the spanker]

I have a bad feeling this guy won't play much the rest of the season.

That is how I am feeling right now. Gates sounded like he was in more pain now than ever. I picked up Superstar Jimmy Graham though should I am in great shape.

Yeah I really didn't want to be the one to come out and say he was done, so thanks to the other poster who just said it.Graham is a good fill-in.

 

[shadyridr]

And as I understand the injury, Gates cannot do any more damage to it, so it is just a matter of pain.

I disagree with this, though you're right about the "no more damage" part. I'll quote myself from Pg 3 of the "Gates Conundrum" thread, as I made the same point there that I want to make here:
"He's got a torn plantar fascia and as Gates himself said, it's not a "tough guy" injury that you shoot up and play through. The man's foot is biomechanically compromised (again, not a doctor, no medical expertise, no facts, no evidence). It's not a pain issue -- if were, he'd be playing. The dude's foot is hamburger, and can't provided the stability to push off explosively. That means no full-speed running and for sure no cutting."

you're wrong. its a pain issue. thats all it is. He cant push off because of the pain

 

[KellysHeroes]

hopefully he'll be back by week 14

 

[Gigantomachia]

And as I understand the injury, Gates cannot do any more damage to it, so it is just a matter of pain.

I disagree with this, though you're right about the "no more damage" part. I'll quote myself from Pg 3 of the "Gates Conundrum" thread, as I made the same point there that I want to make here:
"He's got a torn plantar fascia and as Gates himself said, it's not a "tough guy" injury that you shoot up and play through. The man's foot is biomechanically compromised (again, not a doctor, no medical expertise, no facts, no evidence). It's not a pain issue -- if were, he'd be playing. The dude's foot is hamburger, and can't provided the stability to push off explosively. That means no full-speed running and for sure no cutting."

you're wrong. its a pain issue. thats all it is. He cant push off because of the pain

don't we have drugs that make this pain go away for a few hours. suck it up. how much are you getting paid again??

 

[Sabertooth]

Lot's of armchair doctorin' in here. I'm hoping for the best. I don't question his toughness.

 

[unckeyherb]

you're wrong. its a pain issue. thats all it is. He cant push off because of the pain

seriously, is this true? I feel like I have read this and the complete opposite of this, both stated as fact. I hope you are correct, but I am worried that we have seen the last of Gates this year. Can anyone give some definitive information on this? Uggh. Gates was a huge element to my team and with the playoffs only a couple weeks away (and me getting 1.8 total points from my TE position over the last 4 weeks) I really need this to be over with.

 

[duaneok66]

for your sake I hope he is healed . . .

 

[jerry jones]

for your sake I hope he is healed . . .

 

[netnalp]

And as I understand the injury, Gates cannot do any more damage to it, so it is just a matter of pain.

I disagree with this, though you're right about the "no more damage" part. I'll quote myself from Pg 3 of the "Gates Conundrum" thread, as I made the same point there that I want to make here:
"He's got a torn plantar fascia and as Gates himself said, it's not a "tough guy" injury that you shoot up and play through. The man's foot is biomechanically compromised (again, not a doctor, no medical expertise, no facts, no evidence). It's not a pain issue -- if were, he'd be playing. The dude's foot is hamburger, and can't provided the stability to push off explosively. That means no full-speed running and for sure no cutting."

you're wrong. its a pain issue. thats all it is. He cant push off because of the pain

As far as playing, it is better to have a complete tear of the plantar fascia, like Gates has, than a tear. With the complete tear, no further damage can occur and it's just pain management. With a tear it can get worse and there is more pain and inflamation. It is not unusual for a Physician to perform plantar fascia release surgery for those with foot problems.

http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/plantar-fascia-release

 

[Doug B]

And as I understand the injury, Gates cannot do any more damage to it, so it is just a matter of pain.

I disagree with this, though you're right about the "no more damage" part. I'll quote myself from Pg 3 of the "Gates Conundrum" thread, as I made the same point there that I want to make here:
"He's got a torn plantar fascia and as Gates himself said, it's not a "tough guy" injury that you shoot up and play through. The man's foot is biomechanically compromised (again, not a doctor, no medical expertise, no facts, no evidence). It's not a pain issue -- if were, he'd be playing. The dude's foot is hamburger, and can't provided the stability to push off explosively. That means no full-speed running and for sure no cutting."

you're wrong. its a pain issue. thats all it is. He cant push off because of the pain

I think I've been more right about this than wrong. Not that I had special inside info or anything -- I was just making an educated guess after reading up on the anatomical details of the plantar fascia and the ramifications of this type of injury.

 

[goldenchild]

And as I understand the injury, Gates cannot do any more damage to it, so it is just a matter of pain.

I disagree with this, though you're right about the "no more damage" part. I'll quote myself from Pg 3 of the "Gates Conundrum" thread, as I made the same point there that I want to make here:
"He's got a torn plantar fascia and as Gates himself said, it's not a "tough guy" injury that you shoot up and play through. The man's foot is biomechanically compromised (again, not a doctor, no medical expertise, no facts, no evidence). It's not a pain issue -- if were, he'd be playing. The dude's foot is hamburger, and can't provided the stability to push off explosively. That means no full-speed running and for sure no cutting."

you're wrong. its a pain issue. thats all it is. He cant push off because of the pain

I think I've been more right about this than wrong. Not that I had special inside info or anything -- I was just making an educated guess.

Thanks for bumping a thread that will surely confuse everyone, if only to pat yourself on the back ETA: I noticed that the thread title was just updated... ... carry on.

 

[Doug B]

Thanks for bumping a thread that will surely confuse everyone, if only to pat yourself on the back

You're welcome. I've already reported this thread to the moderators for a re-title.It was kind of grating that people were sweeping aside a serious plantar fascia injury as something that could just be played through. The last game that Gates did play, he probably had horse tranquilizers or something shot into his foot. Doubt he had feeling below the knee. Then -- surprise! -- after the Wk 13 game, his plantar fascia worsened to the point where Gates knew 48 hours in advance that he couldn't play on it.

 

[Doug B]

ETA: I noticed that the thread title was just updated... ... carry on.

That was a hellacious modding job ... wonder who had their finger on the trigger?