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God I so hope this is true (1 Viewer)

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man if this is true and it leads to cheap energy in the future, I'm pretty happy because it will spell the end to the scumsucking Saudi's stealing all our blood money for oil.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090324/ts_al...ceenergynuclear

WASHINGTON (AFP) – Researchers at a US Navy laboratory have unveiled what they say is "significant" evidence of cold fusion, a potential energy source that has many skeptics in the scientific community.

The scientists on Monday described what they called the first clear visual evidence that low-energy nuclear reaction (LENR), or cold fusion devices can produce neutrons, subatomic particles that scientists say are indicative of nuclear reactions.

"Our finding is very significant," said analytical chemist Pamela Mosier-Boss of the US Navy's Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center (SPAWAR) in San Diego, California.

"To our knowledge, this is the first scientific report of the production of highly energetic neutrons from a LENR device," added the study's co-author in a statement.
 
I share in everyone's hope that this is true, but I've heard this one before. This effect was reported about 15 yrs ago by researchers at the University of Utah and it turned out none of the results they reported were ever able to be replicated by other scientists or themselves. Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope this one turns out to be true.

 
I share in everyone's hope that this is true, but I've heard this one before. This effect was reported about 15 yrs ago by researchers at the University of Utah and it turned out none of the results they reported were ever able to be replicated by other scientists or themselves. Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope this one turns out to be true.
They were forced to publish early due to news leaking. The criticism they got was largely undeserved.That said, yes, none of what they initially found worked out.
 
I share in everyone's hope that this is true, but I've heard this one before. This effect was reported about 15 yrs ago by researchers at the University of Utah and it turned out none of the results they reported were ever able to be replicated by other scientists or themselves. Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope this one turns out to be true.
They were forced to publish early due to news leaking. The criticism they got was largely undeserved.That said, yes, none of what they initially found worked out.
They didn't publish early, they called a news conference to announce they had discovered the perpetual motion machine and a way to turn lead into gold.
 
Ozymandias said:
I share in everyone's hope that this is true, but I've heard this one before. This effect was reported about 15 yrs ago by researchers at the University of Utah and it turned out none of the results they reported were ever able to be replicated by other scientists or themselves. Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope this one turns out to be true.
They were forced to publish early due to news leaking. The criticism they got was largely undeserved.That said, yes, none of what they initially found worked out.
They didn't publish early, they called a news conference to announce they had discovered the perpetual motion machine and a way to turn lead into gold.
Hey, that would have worked if only they'd been able to get a spherical frictionless chicken.
 
Would be too good to be true if it was discovered in the US.
To this point, to what lengths would the opec countries go to in order to stop this from coming out? Let's see, a bunch of countries with a propensity to use violence to resolve issues, practically limitless resources, and a technology that would make them obsolete almost over night?
 
Color me skeptical, but no energy will ever be cheap for the public, ever.

edit.......never mind on the CHEAP aspect, misread something somewhere. Anyway, either way, no matter what energy source we use it wont be cheap.

But.....................would definitely be nice to get away from oil as much as possible.

I am still kind of expecting some sort of giant movement in solar at some point. Every rooftop or every building and many homes. Something to that effect.

 
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Oh yeah, and I definitely think all the D-bags shutting down new technology should be shot on site.

Hey guys, it's 2001 and we have this electric car that can go 300 miles before it needs a charge..............wait, what do you mean I need to give you all my research and then get down on my knees and close my eyes...........

 
Oh yeah, and I definitely think all the D-bags shutting down new technology should be shot on site.

Hey guys, it's 2001 and we have this electric car that can go 300 miles before it needs a charge..............wait, what do you mean I need to give you all my research and then get down on my knees and close my eyes...........
:tinfoilhat:

 
I am still kind of expecting some sort of giant movement in solar at some point. Every rooftop or every building and many homes. Something to that effect.
Solar is expensive. Ask Google. They went solar to power a number of things and are paying lots of money to keep the systems going.

What folks don't realize about solar is that not only are the panels reasonably expensive, but so is all the infrastructure and electronics to convert and transmit the power. And solar panels wear out and fail. And they require constant maintenance. There are a lot more moving parts to these than most folks realize.

 
Sand said:
ghostguy123 said:
I am still kind of expecting some sort of giant movement in solar at some point. Every rooftop or every building and many homes. Something to that effect.
Solar is expensive. Ask Google. They went solar to power a number of things and are paying lots of money to keep the systems going.

What folks don't realize about solar is that not only are the panels reasonably expensive, but so is all the infrastructure and electronics to convert and transmit the power. And solar panels wear out and fail. And they require constant maintenance. There are a lot more moving parts to these than most folks realize.
I would also tend to expect some improvements in it.

 
Sand said:
ghostguy123 said:
I am still kind of expecting some sort of giant movement in solar at some point. Every rooftop or every building and many homes. Something to that effect.
Solar is expensive. Ask Google. They went solar to power a number of things and are paying lots of money to keep the systems going.

What folks don't realize about solar is that not only are the panels reasonably expensive, but so is all the infrastructure and electronics to convert and transmit the power. And solar panels wear out and fail. And they require constant maintenance. There are a lot more moving parts to these than most folks realize.
I would also tend to expect some improvements in it.
But somehow no other energy will be cheap for the public...ever?

 
Sand said:
ghostguy123 said:
I am still kind of expecting some sort of giant movement in solar at some point. Every rooftop or every building and many homes. Something to that effect.
Solar is expensive. Ask Google. They went solar to power a number of things and are paying lots of money to keep the systems going.

What folks don't realize about solar is that not only are the panels reasonably expensive, but so is all the infrastructure and electronics to convert and transmit the power. And solar panels wear out and fail. And they require constant maintenance. There are a lot more moving parts to these than most folks realize.
And don't forget the bird-frying aspect of solar power.

Workers at a state-of-the-art solar plant in the Mojave Desert have a name for birds that fly through the plant's concentrated sun rays — "streamers," for the smoke plume that comes from birds that ignite in midair.

Federal wildlife investigators who visited the BrightSource Energy plant last year and watched as birds burned and fell, reporting an average of one "streamer" every two minutes, are urging California officials to halt the operator's application to build a still-bigger version.
 
Sand said:
ghostguy123 said:
I am still kind of expecting some sort of giant movement in solar at some point. Every rooftop or every building and many homes. Something to that effect.
Solar is expensive. Ask Google. They went solar to power a number of things and are paying lots of money to keep the systems going.

What folks don't realize about solar is that not only are the panels reasonably expensive, but so is all the infrastructure and electronics to convert and transmit the power. And solar panels wear out and fail. And they require constant maintenance. There are a lot more moving parts to these than most folks realize.
Google *was* paying a lot for energy and then they got applied to FERC for status as an "energy marketer and provider". I guess they wanted to start paying wholesale. It was approved in 2010. Regardless, they keep investing in solar and other clean/green energy. They're moving forward with it...

We've invested over a billion dollars in 15 projects that have the capacity to produce two gigawatts of power around the world, mostly in the U.S., but that's the equivalent of Hoover's Dam worth of power generation," said Rick Needham Google's director of energy and sustainability, standing along Google's solar arrays at its headquarters in Mountain View, Calif.
 

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