Marshall was the #10 PPR WR this year and 19th best non-QB this year. I would have done that pick again easily. I actually moved Bowe pretty early in the year, prior to Lynch being viable, and got back Beanie (pre-injury) who started 5 games for me and did a fair job prior to Lynch blowing up. I think the key I was trying to do in the stud-WR draft was to limit the amount of "misses" I had. Outside of Deangelo and Addai (who actually did well in 3-4 games I started him early), I avoided that and was able to hit on some guys late.As an FYI for the "best first 3 picks":The Rodgers owner traded up for an extra first, but still ended up with Rodgers, Chris Johnson, and Miles Austin. Foster owner was the other owner in the championship, and went Foster, Roddy, Vincent Jackson (but also needed to trade up for that and didn't have a pick from 2.10 to 5.02)Rice owner went Rice, Best, then Mike Williams. His WRs killed him all year.McCoy owner went McCoy, Wallace, and Moreno.
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Going heavy WR in Dynasty PPR Startup Drafts (1 Viewer)
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So you took Marshall as the #11 WR off the board, and he finished as WR #10. That isn't why you won the championship.Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to put your team down or anything. You won the championship, that's great and all that really matters. I'm just saying you didn't win because of your "strategy" to go WR early, or because your early picks were so good, you won because you had some fantastic later round picks (at pretty much every position). You didn't just get decent value late, you got legit top 5 starters there. Congrats!
Getting 2nd round production from a 10th round pick doesn't matter as much if your 2nd round pick gets 10th round production. Part of the strategy is the *attempt* to take safer picks (in my opinion, WRs) to reduce the chance that you are relying on those latter round picks. Obviously, BM in the 2nd didn't win my league, but I'll take "as projected" production from my early picks every year.'humpback said:
Should be easy for the draft-- traded my first next year for Big Ben, 2nd next year for James Starks. Even with Cam's emergence, I'm happy with both those moves.
I agree, but I still think it's hard to argue that your success is due to the strategy. Put it this way- if you hadn't gotten Lynch, Cam, Smith, Jordy, Sproles, etc. later in the draft, you almost certainly would not have won. If you had taken 3 different players early but still landed those guys late, you still would have had a great chance at winning. If the owners who took other players early would have landed those guys later, they would have had a great chance at winning. IMO, your success was due much more to the those later picks than it was your first 3, or your strategy to go WR early.
i believe his strategy was to minimize mistakes in the first three rounds, and did it with WRs (though a Top 3 QB may apply, too).
what i think humpback is saying is that it was the mainly the other picks (and not his stated strategy of starting WR/WR/WR)... my retort would be "that would be true of any draft: you can't win it with just the first three picks, no matter how perfect they may be. Drafts, especially for Dynasty, are built through good/great/lucky pick in the later rounds. WHICH IS POSSIBLE FOR ANY DRAFTER AT ANY POSITION." I happen to subscribe to the opinion that WRs last longer and are a little more consistent year in and year out. And a nucleus of CAJohnson/Marshall/VJax in a start 3 WR league is pretty strong to build around. The fact he got Nelson/SSmith means he can trade one and still have four to rotate. I like it, but YMMV.
what i think humpback is saying is that it was the mainly the other picks (and not his stated strategy of starting WR/WR/WR)... my retort would be "that would be true of any draft: you can't win it with just the first three picks, no matter how perfect they may be. Drafts, especially for Dynasty, are built through good/great/lucky pick in the later rounds. WHICH IS POSSIBLE FOR ANY DRAFTER AT ANY POSITION." I happen to subscribe to the opinion that WRs last longer and are a little more consistent year in and year out. And a nucleus of CAJohnson/Marshall/VJax in a start 3 WR league is pretty strong to build around. The fact he got Nelson/SSmith means he can trade one and still have four to rotate. I like it, but YMMV.
Agreed that this is true of any draft, which is kind of my point. It still comes down to the actual players selected, not the positions he selected. He could have just as easily picked AJ #1, Austin #2 (if he fell there), and Mike Williams #3, and that wouldn't have turned out so hot (although he still would have had a good chance to win because of his later picks). You could have replaced his 3 WR picks with plenty of players at other positions and he still would have had a great team, also due to those later picks.Again, congrats and great job, I just don't think this proves anything about this strategy being superior.
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First of all, great draft. But, like Humpback, I have to say this has more to do with the players than the strategy. For one, Calvin is the ONLY WR worth anywhere near the #1 overall pick. There are only 1-3 worth a first round startup pick. So, unless your strategy is "Go Calvin Johnson early", I still don't like it.I went RB heavy in a draft I did, and ended up with:Newton/Big BenMcCoyMcFadden (Hillis/McGahee)WelkerMaclinSt. JohnsonGronkowskiI don't think your strategy does anymore to build a solid team than does mine. We simply picked the right players, a lot of which was luck.
