Going into week 5 Best has 5 TDs (1 Viewer)

[BRONG]

Stop trying to predict injuries

Stop trying to not predict them

 

[Ping Pong]

Is anyone actually buying? I sure wouldn't. 2.9 ypc and the only time he sniffed paydirt was against the worst team in the league - and it was even in trash time. I supposed he'd have value in PPR, but that is precisely why PPR is a joke...

If you can get decent value, go for it. Maybe you can snag McGahee. He might also have low ypc but at least he is durable But seriously, maybe an Ingram owner will give him up.

This is laughably ridiculous, and you should honestly never post again.

 

[Football Jones]

I might could see a Best/Ingram swap in a redraft league, but dynasty is another story. There's only a handful of RBs I move straight-up for Ingram. If you have Ingram in a dynasty league, you sit on his talent & let nature take it's course. Sproles/Thomas/Ivory simply won't keep Ingram from being a FF monster (in time).

 

[Grahamburn]

I might could see a Best/Ingram swap in a redraft league, but dynasty is another story. There's only a handful of RBs I move straight-up for Ingram. If you have Ingram in a dynasty league, you sit on his talent & let nature take it's course. Sproles/Thomas/Ivory simply won't keep Ingram from being a FF monster (in time).

I don't want to get the thread off track, but I keep seeing this being posted. It was posted before the season and now during the season. Both Sproles and Thomas have contracts with the Saints for a few more years, and the rotation they currently have going is obviously working. What makes everyone think Payton will suddenly start giving the ball to one player exclusively while two productive players sit on the bench (other than the fact most of the people thinking this drafted him in their dynasty leagues)? It makes zero sense.

Best is productive right now. The Lions will hand it off to keep defenses from pinning their ears back. I don't mind him having a lowish ypc if he continues to do damage in the passing game.

 

[FF Ninja]

Is anyone actually buying? I sure wouldn't. 2.9 ypc and the only time he sniffed paydirt was against the worst team in the league - and it was even in trash time. I supposed he'd have value in PPR, but that is precisely why PPR is a joke...If you can get decent value, go for it. Maybe you can snag McGahee. He might also have low ypc but at least he is durable But seriously, maybe an Ingram owner will give him up.

Best is averaging 12 yards per reception so he is equally as good in PPR as he is in standard. matter of fact he is probably worth more in standard as most RB's only average 7 or 8 yards per reception.And I also think Best is a injury prone player but in no world in a redraft league will the owner of Best trade him for Ingram and if you don't understand this than you should not go around giving advice and/or insight.

As an Ingram owner I would not trade him for Best (0 ppr). If you don't understand this then you must be a Best optimist.

 

[FF Ninja]

Is anyone actually buying? I sure wouldn't. 2.9 ypc and the only time he sniffed paydirt was against the worst team in the league - and it was even in trash time. I supposed he'd have value in PPR, but that is precisely why PPR is a joke...

If you can get decent value, go for it. Maybe you can snag McGahee. He might also have low ypc but at least he is durable But seriously, maybe an Ingram owner will give him up.

This is laughably ridiculous, and you should honestly never post again.

You Best owners are a sensitive bunch. I was fully kidding about McGahee, but if I accidentally drafted Best in any of my 0 ppr leagues then I'd love to trade him for Ingram. Ingram has had a tough schedule so far. NO was in a shootout with GB and Houston and he still managed 13 and 9 carries. He got 14 against a touch Chicago defense. He has a really good 6 game stretch coming up. Jax, Car, TB, Ind, StL, TB.

 

[xenith]

Is anyone actually buying? I sure wouldn't. 2.9 ypc and the only time he sniffed paydirt was against the worst team in the league - and it was even in trash time. I supposed he'd have value in PPR, but that is precisely why PPR is a joke...If you can get decent value, go for it. Maybe you can snag McGahee. He might also have low ypc but at least he is durable But seriously, maybe an Ingram owner will give him up.

Best is averaging 12 yards per reception so he is equally as good in PPR as he is in standard. matter of fact he is probably worth more in standard as most RB's only average 7 or 8 yards per reception.And I also think Best is a injury prone player but in no world in a redraft league will the owner of Best trade him for Ingram and if you don't understand this than you should not go around giving advice and/or insight.

A very quick (and rough) calculation for standard scoring (1pt/10yds rush or recv, 6 pt TDs) puts Best #8. Forte by the way, same calculation is #7. Take away the PPR aspect and these guys are still big time value. To overlook the receiving yards just cause you got a bone w/ PPR scoring is, well, you wanna join my league? I'll be happy to take your $. Oh, and Ingram is fools gold this year, good luck w/ that. Just my2¢

 

[domvin]

Laughing at mcgahee for Best.

I own Best in two dynasties, 1 redraft.

I have an offer of Rice, and some garish, for my Best and orton.

2 QB League, PPR. I am wondering why I won't pull that trigger quickly?.

Perhaps we list what rbs we would give up Best for?

CJ

ADP

Mccoy

DMC

I think the above would take Best and other offerings to acquire. Rice , and Foster most likely in that mix.

Whom else?

 

[Lester Long]

Is anyone actually buying? I sure wouldn't. 2.9 ypc and the only time he sniffed paydirt was against the worst team in the league - and it was even in trash time. I supposed he'd have value in PPR, but that is precisely why PPR is a joke...If you can get decent value, go for it. Maybe you can snag McGahee. He might also have low ypc but at least he is durable But seriously, maybe an Ingram owner will give him up.

Best is averaging 12 yards per reception so he is equally as good in PPR as he is in standard. matter of fact he is probably worth more in standard as most RB's only average 7 or 8 yards per reception.And I also think Best is a injury prone player but in no world in a redraft league will the owner of Best trade him for Ingram and if you don't understand this than you should not go around giving advice and/or insight.

As an Ingram owner I would not trade him for Best (0 ppr). If you don't understand this then you must be a Best optimist.

Why, does Best's 108 yards per game hurt your team? you need a guy with less TD's and 60 yards less a game( Ingram) to complete your team to perfection?

 

[FF Ninja]

Laughing at mcgahee for Best.I own Best in two dynasties, 1 redraft.I have an offer of Rice, and some garish, for my Best and orton.2 QB League, PPR. I am wondering why I won't pull that trigger quickly?.Perhaps we list what rbs we would give up Best for?CJADPMccoyDMCI think the above would take Best and other offerings to acquire. Rice , and Foster most likely in that mix.Whom else?

How dense are you people?

I was fully kidding about McGahee

I thought it was pretty obvious from the beginning.

 

[FF Ninja]

Is anyone actually buying? I sure wouldn't. 2.9 ypc and the only time he sniffed paydirt was against the worst team in the league - and it was even in trash time. I supposed he'd have value in PPR, but that is precisely why PPR is a joke...If you can get decent value, go for it. Maybe you can snag McGahee. He might also have low ypc but at least he is durable But seriously, maybe an Ingram owner will give him up.

Best is averaging 12 yards per reception so he is equally as good in PPR as he is in standard. matter of fact he is probably worth more in standard as most RB's only average 7 or 8 yards per reception.And I also think Best is a injury prone player but in no world in a redraft league will the owner of Best trade him for Ingram and if you don't understand this than you should not go around giving advice and/or insight.

A very quick (and rough) calculation for standard scoring (1pt/10yds rush or recv, 6 pt TDs) puts Best #8. Forte by the way, same calculation is #7. Take away the PPR aspect and these guys are still big time value. To overlook the receiving yards just cause you got a bone w/ PPR scoring is, well, you wanna join my league? I'll be happy to take your $. Oh, and Ingram is fools gold this year, good luck w/ that. Just my2¢

Oh, the dreaded "can I join your league/wanna join my league" insult! Snap!From week 4 on, Best's 3 week performance, greatly aided by the terrible KC team, will do you no good. I merely suggested you trade a guy with inflated value for a guy whom people are very down on.And I am not overlooking his receiving yards. I just don't expect him to end the year with 80 rec @ 12 ypr. He is currently living off of his receiving totals. That's not something I would want to bank on week to week. Combine that with his gimpy nature and terrible ypc against soft competition and you've got a sell high, imo. The Jahvid Best kool-aid on this board runs strong, so I'm sure you guys will band together and pump each other up and ignore/insult anyone who tries to bring a different perspective. Do so at your own peril.

 

[solorca]

I play in a PPR redraft, and I would take the following backs for Best (not in a specific order)...

Ray Rice

Lesean McCoy

Matt Forte

Darren Mcfadden

Fred Jackson

Adrian Peterson

Arian Foster

MJD

There are probably a few more that I would consider, along with probably at least five or six receivers. Then again, I got burned really hard by Best last season, so I may be a little more willing to let him go than some others. It's kind of scary how similar his start this season has been to last season, even down to the slight injury in week 3.

 

[domvin]

Laughing at mcgahee for Best.I own Best in two dynasties, 1 redraft.I have an offer of Rice, and some garish, for my Best and orton.2 QB League, PPR. I am wondering why I won't pull that trigger quickly?.Perhaps we list what rbs we would give up Best for?CJADPMccoyDMCI think the above would take Best and other offerings to acquire. Rice , and Foster most likely in that mix.Whom else?

How dense are you people?

I was fully kidding about McGahee

I thought it was pretty obvious from the beginning.

Judging by your other posts buddy, you just don't seem that smart.

 

[The Doctor]

he can be a ppr beast

i wont trade him unless offered a stud wr

 

[xenith]

Is anyone actually buying? I sure wouldn't. 2.9 ypc and the only time he sniffed paydirt was against the worst team in the league - and it was even in trash time. I supposed he'd have value in PPR, but that is precisely why PPR is a joke...If you can get decent value, go for it. Maybe you can snag McGahee. He might also have low ypc but at least he is durable But seriously, maybe an Ingram owner will give him up.

Best is averaging 12 yards per reception so he is equally as good in PPR as he is in standard. matter of fact he is probably worth more in standard as most RB's only average 7 or 8 yards per reception.And I also think Best is a injury prone player but in no world in a redraft league will the owner of Best trade him for Ingram and if you don't understand this than you should not go around giving advice and/or insight.

A very quick (and rough) calculation for standard scoring (1pt/10yds rush or recv, 6 pt TDs) puts Best #8. Forte by the way, same calculation is #7. Take away the PPR aspect and these guys are still big time value. To overlook the receiving yards just cause you got a bone w/ PPR scoring is, well, you wanna join my league? I'll be happy to take your $. Oh, and Ingram is fools gold this year, good luck w/ that. Just my2¢

Oh, the dreaded "can I join your league/wanna join my league" insult! Snap!From week 4 on, Best's 3 week performance, greatly aided by the terrible KC team, will do you no good. I merely suggested you trade a guy with inflated value for a guy whom people are very down on.And I am not overlooking his receiving yards. I just don't expect him to end the year with 80 rec @ 12 ypr. He is currently living off of his receiving totals. That's not something I would want to bank on week to week. Combine that with his gimpy nature and terrible ypc against soft competition and you've got a sell high, imo. The Jahvid Best kool-aid on this board runs strong, so I'm sure you guys will band together and pump each other up and ignore/insult anyone who tries to bring a different perspective. Do so at your own peril.

Oh the dreaded 'But the Kool-Aid won't last forever, then you'll be sorry' rebuttal. I would take you much more seriously if you hadn't offered Mark Ingram as your comperable trade target. If Best gets hurt and Ingram doesn't, you'll likely have won the argument, but I will be very surprised to see Mark Ingram sniff the top20 RB by seasons end. In that 3-man RBBC, Ingram has ZERO upside. Guys like Ingram will not get you ahead.Only time will tell ninja, so we can mark this and get back in a few weeks.

 

[Grahamburn]

And I am not overlooking his receiving yards. I just don't expect him to end the year with 80 rec @ 12 ypr. He is currently living off of his receiving totals. That's not something I would want to bank on week to week. Combine that with his gimpy nature and terrible ypc against soft competition and you've got a sell high, imo. The Jahvid Best kool-aid on this board runs strong, so I'm sure you guys will band together and pump each other up and ignore/insult anyone who tries to bring a different perspective. Do so at your own peril.

Best managed 58 receptions and played in every game last season. Why wouldn't you bank on him living off the receptions? I'll readily admit he wasn't extremely effecive in 2010, but he played in all 16. That doesn't scream gimpy to me.The Lions have plenty of weapons to take the defense's attention away from Jahvid. His receiving ability seems to be the best part of his game. I don't care if the yards come from carries or catches. As long as he continues to receive 15+ touches per game he'll be valuable (He's currently averaging 21.3).Find me a RB with practically no competition for touches on an offense as potent as Detroit's who has less injury risk and an owner willing to make that deal.

 

[FF Ninja]

Laughing at mcgahee for Best.I own Best in two dynasties, 1 redraft.I have an offer of Rice, and some garish, for my Best and orton.2 QB League, PPR. I am wondering why I won't pull that trigger quickly?.Perhaps we list what rbs we would give up Best for?CJADPMccoyDMCI think the above would take Best and other offerings to acquire. Rice , and Foster most likely in that mix.Whom else?

How dense are you people?

I was fully kidding about McGahee

I thought it was pretty obvious from the beginning.

Judging by your other posts buddy, you just don't seem that smart.

Given your apparent analytical skills, I'm glad to hear that you think so.

 

[DrapedInVelvet]

Laughing at mcgahee for Best.I own Best in two dynasties, 1 redraft.I have an offer of Rice, and some garish, for my Best and orton.2 QB League, PPR. I am wondering why I won't pull that trigger quickly?.Perhaps we list what rbs we would give up Best for?CJADPMccoyDMCI think the above would take Best and other offerings to acquire. Rice , and Foster most likely in that mix.Whom else?

How dense are you people?

I was fully kidding about McGahee

I thought it was pretty obvious from the beginning.

Judging by your other posts buddy, you just don't seem that smart.

I gotta jump in here and say Ninja's posts are among the very best in the pool. He has a snarky sense of humor, but he's a sharp guy.

 

[FF Ninja]

Oh the dreaded 'But the Kool-Aid won't last forever, then you'll be sorry' rebuttal. I would take you much more seriously if you hadn't offered Mark Ingram as your comperable trade target. If Best gets hurt and Ingram doesn't, you'll likely have won the argument, but I will be very surprised to see Mark Ingram sniff the top20 RB by seasons end. In that 3-man RBBC, Ingram has ZERO upside. Guys like Ingram will not get you ahead.Only time will tell ninja, so we can mark this and get back in a few weeks.

No, I never said the kool-aid won't last forever. It is quite obvious that, here in the shark pool, the kool-aid will last forever. There are 10 Jahvid Best optimists for every realist, so there will be plenty of kool-aid to offset any outside perspectives.Ingram has gotten about 55% of the carries on a very potent offense. I don't care if 2, 3, or 4 guys are splitting the other 45%. He's got a solid shot at 200-220 carries and 10+ TDs. He's a viable buy low candidate and was the first one to pop in my head. If you don't like Ingram, then sell Best high for another guy. I own Ingram in only one league and Best in none. I'm not trying to make this an Ingram vs. Best thread. Just thought I'd sprinkle some unbiased opinion in with the kool-aid.

 

[nysportsfan]

Laughing at mcgahee for Best.I own Best in two dynasties, 1 redraft.I have an offer of Rice, and some garish, for my Best and orton.2 QB League, PPR. I am wondering why I won't pull that trigger quickly?.Perhaps we list what rbs we would give up Best for?CJADPMccoyDMCI think the above would take Best and other offerings to acquire. Rice , and Foster most likely in that mix.Whom else?

How dense are you people?

I was fully kidding about McGahee

I thought it was pretty obvious from the beginning.

Judging by your other posts buddy, you just don't seem that smart.

I gotta jump in here and say Ninja's posts are among the very best in the pool since I've been here this whole one month. He has a snarky sense of humor, but he's a sharp guy.

 

[FF Ninja]

Judging by your other posts buddy, you just don't seem that smart.

I gotta jump in here and say Ninja's posts are among the very best in the pool. He has a snarky sense of humor, but he's a sharp guy.

I appreciate the sentiment. Please don't be offended when I buck the trend here in SP and don't quote your compliment in my signature...

 

[PhantomJB]

And I am not overlooking his receiving yards. I just don't expect him to end the year with 80 rec @ 12 ypr. He is currently living off of his receiving totals. That's not something I would want to bank on week to week. Combine that with his gimpy nature and terrible ypc against soft competition and you've got a sell high, imo. The Jahvid Best kool-aid on this board runs strong, so I'm sure you guys will band together and pump each other up and ignore/insult anyone who tries to bring a different perspective. Do so at your own peril.

Best managed 58 receptions and played in every game last season. Why wouldn't you bank on him living off the receptions? I'll readily admit he wasn't extremely effecive in 2010, but he played in all 16. That doesn't scream gimpy to me.The Lions have plenty of weapons to take the defense's attention away from Jahvid. His receiving ability seems to be the best part of his game. I don't care if the yards come from carries or catches. As long as he continues to receive 15+ touches per game he'll be valuable (He's currently averaging 21.3).Find me a RB with practically no competition for touches on an offense as potent as Detroit's who has less injury risk and an owner willing to make that deal.

The appropriate comparable for Jahvid Best is Matt Forte. Pass-first offenses, similar amounts of touches, not the strongest of O-lines and generally below average between-the-tackles skills. Forte and Best are pretty much dead even three weeks into the season. It's fair to discount Best for injury risk and lack of significant history but other than that you're talking similar type and amount of production. Forte for Ingram would be a joke of a trade. Best for Ingram is a joke-minus.

 

[Hybrid]

Getting a little chilly in here...

 

[Grahamburn]

Oh the dreaded 'But the Kool-Aid won't last forever, then you'll be sorry' rebuttal. I would take you much more seriously if you hadn't offered Mark Ingram as your comperable trade target. If Best gets hurt and Ingram doesn't, you'll likely have won the argument, but I will be very surprised to see Mark Ingram sniff the top20 RB by seasons end. In that 3-man RBBC, Ingram has ZERO upside. Guys like Ingram will not get you ahead.

Only time will tell ninja, so we can mark this and get back in a few weeks.

No, I never said the kool-aid won't last forever. It is quite obvious that, here in the shark pool, the kool-aid will last forever. There are 10 Jahvid Best optimists for every realist, so there will be plenty of kool-aid to offset any outside perspectives.Ingram has gotten about 55% of the carries on a very potent offense. I don't care if 2, 3, or 4 guys are splitting the other 45%. He's got a solid shot at 200-220 carries and 10+ TDs. He's a viable buy low candidate and was the first one to pop in my head. If you don't like Ingram, then sell Best high for another guy. I own Ingram in only one league and Best in none. I'm not trying to make this an Ingram vs. Best thread. Just thought I'd sprinkle some unbiased opinion in with the kool-aid.

Best is getting 75% of the carries on a very potent offense along with about 90% of the receptions. I don't get why we're selling Best high, especially for Ingram. I'd rather have the guy with yardage potential vs. the player who might steal a few cheap TDs. That was my point earlier. Find a comparable back with less injury risk. Ingram isn't really comparable when he's only getting half of his teams touches.

Best played 16 games last season. The only reason someone would want to sell high on Best is for fear of injury. Jahvid has only missed football games in college due to injury. Interestingly enough, Mark Ingram missed a few games last year in college. Why is he any less injury prone?

There isn't anyone of comparable value out there right now. Best is the #8 RB in my league, and likely top 10 in standard scoring leagues. There's no reason to sell.

 

[PhantomJB]

Getting a little chilly in here...

My above "joke" reference was a pun on Ninja's earlier reference of PPR being a joke. My apologies if the tone was a little over the top.

 

[FF Ninja]

Oh the dreaded 'But the Kool-Aid won't last forever, then you'll be sorry' rebuttal. I would take you much more seriously if you hadn't offered Mark Ingram as your comperable trade target. If Best gets hurt and Ingram doesn't, you'll likely have won the argument, but I will be very surprised to see Mark Ingram sniff the top20 RB by seasons end. In that 3-man RBBC, Ingram has ZERO upside. Guys like Ingram will not get you ahead.

Only time will tell ninja, so we can mark this and get back in a few weeks.

No, I never said the kool-aid won't last forever. It is quite obvious that, here in the shark pool, the kool-aid will last forever. There are 10 Jahvid Best optimists for every realist, so there will be plenty of kool-aid to offset any outside perspectives.Ingram has gotten about 55% of the carries on a very potent offense. I don't care if 2, 3, or 4 guys are splitting the other 45%. He's got a solid shot at 200-220 carries and 10+ TDs. He's a viable buy low candidate and was the first one to pop in my head. If you don't like Ingram, then sell Best high for another guy. I own Ingram in only one league and Best in none. I'm not trying to make this an Ingram vs. Best thread. Just thought I'd sprinkle some unbiased opinion in with the kool-aid.

Best is getting 75% of the carries on a very potent offense along with about 90% of the receptions. I don't get why we're selling Best high, especially for Ingram. I'd rather have the guy with yardage potential vs. the player who might steal a few cheap TDs. That was my point earlier. Find a comparable back with less injury risk. Ingram isn't really comparable when he's only getting half of his teams touches.

Best played 16 games last season. The only reason someone would want to sell high on Best is for fear of injury. Jahvid has only missed football games in college due to injury. Interestingly enough, Mark Ingram missed a few games last year in college. Why is he any less injury prone?

There isn't anyone of comparable value out there right now. Best is the #8 RB in my league, and likely top 10 in standard scoring leagues. There's no reason to sell.

That is precisely why he is a sell high. Do you think he'll continue to get those percentages? Do you think he'll hold up if he does? Do you really think he'll end the year as a top 10 back? The concept of sell high/buy low doesn't mean you trade a guy currently at RB8 for a guy at RB5. Think of this as the stock market. What is your anticipated stock price of Best in 10 weeks? RB8 is his ceiling. He's already played KC and the only other easy looking game he's got coming up is @ DEN right before his bye.Obviously his own team doesn't have faith in him to carry the ball that much. Best owners dodged a bullet when LeShoure went down, but right now is the time to capitalize. Sell him before he plays Dallas, Chicago, and San Francisco. He obviously didn't match up very well against Minnesota. They meet again in week 14. Enjoy.

You can all pile on and say, "hey, you don't like our kool-aid. You must be dumb." or you can find a player that YOU like and see if that manager interested in the current RB8. It doesn't hurt to glance at they playoff schedules at this point, either.

 

[Grahamburn]

What is this kool-aid business?

Best will hold up fine at 20 or so touches per game. The point is, he's getting 20 touches a game. I disagree that they don't have faith in him to carry the ball. He had 22 against Tampa. They reduced his carries against KC because they didn't need him, and he saw fewer carries against Minnesota because the running game was ineffective and they were behind.

Interestingly enough though, Best was still very much involved in the passing game during the comeback and accumulated 88 total yards.

The next 14 RBs immediately following Best in my league:

Sproles

Tolbert

MJD

Bradshaw

Hightower

Tate

Turner

McGahee

Benson

Hillis

Addai

Wells

Felix Jones

Jacobs

The only player on that list I'd want is MJD, and I seriously doubt his owner would be letting him go for Best. Who else would you sell him for?

Notice something else: Every single one of those players has an injury history! That's what is so interesting about someone calling a RB injury prone. They're ALL injury prone.

 

[FF Ninja]

Think you could get Hillis? I would make that trade in a second if I was a Best owner. I also really like Beanie's upside. I'd look into a package deal there, though, because Beanie's perceived value has to be quite a bit lower than Best's. Where is Blount on that list? He's a decent buy low guy for a couple more days. But if Sproles is that high on your scoring then you must be in ppr. Hillis would be even more appealing in that case.

When I said the team doesn't trust him to carry the load, I was referring to the draft selection of LeShoure.

 

[Lester Long]

What is this kool-aid business?

Best will hold up fine at 20 or so touches per game. The point is, he's getting 20 touches a game. I disagree that they don't have faith in him to carry the ball. He had 22 against Tampa. They reduced his carries against KC because they didn't need him, and he saw fewer carries against Minnesota because the running game was ineffective and they were behind.

Interestingly enough though, Best was still very much involved in the passing game during the comeback and accumulated 88 total yards.

The next 14 RBs immediately following Best in my league:

Sproles

Tolbert

MJD

Bradshaw

Hightower

Tate

Turner

McGahee

Benson

Hillis

Addai

Wells

Felix Jones

Jacobs

The only player on that list I'd want is MJD, and I seriously doubt his owner would be letting him go for Best. Who else would you sell him for?

Notice something else: Every single one of those players has an injury history! That's what is so interesting about someone calling a RB injury prone. They're ALL injury prone.

Hate to side with Ninja on this since he is wrong so much, but, Best is a very injury proned back and if I had him I would expect some missed games. if it were not for his injuries he would be a top 6 or 7 back. I compare him to McCoy while healthy though and unless your RB's are outrageously good he is a must start if you have him.

 

[Grahamburn]

Think you could get Hillis? I would make that trade in a second if I was a Best owner. I also really like Beanie's upside. I'd look into a package deal there, though, because Beanie's perceived value has to be quite a bit lower than Best's. Where is Blount on that list? He's a decent buy low guy for a couple more days. But if Sproles is that high on your scoring then you must be in ppr. Hillis would be even more appealing in that case.When I said the team doesn't trust him to carry the load, I was referring to the draft selection of LeShoure.

It's a .5 PPR, which clearly bumps Best's value some. I'd say Sproles is quite high in most leagues. He's been on fire.Blount is directly after Jacobs. I'm not really looking to sell, obviously, which is why I've been making the argument to hold. Funny you mention Hillis and Wells though considering your argument against Best is his lack of potential to "hold up." That was exactly my point. I can't really predict which of these guys are going to make it through the entire season unscathed, so I like the guy in the potent offense looking to garner 20 or so touches a game.I definitely appreciate the differing opinion and dialogue though. It's a breath of fresh air in the Shark Pool.

 

[FF Ninja]

I just imagine some TD producers are going to leap frog him pretty quickly unless his running improves. A big red flag here to me is that his rushing stats are still terrible even w/o turf toe. I was bearish on him last year, but figured he might be good this year after healing from injuries. So far, his value is only as the recipient of dump off passes. That is a nice bonus for a running back, but should not be the meat of their production.

If we were talking dynasty, then you'd have to agree that you have to sell before next year's draft, right? They ultimately intend for him to be the non-touchdown producing RB in a RBBC.

 

[Dought Man]

Judging from my leaguemates, Best holds about as much trade value as a Felix Jones right now. No one is going to pay for either of these guys right now. You might be able to get a WR2 for one of them...

 

[Grahamburn]

I just imagine some TD producers are going to leap frog him pretty quickly unless his running improves. A big red flag here to me is that his rushing stats are still terrible even w/o turf toe. I was bearish on him last year, but figured he might be good this year after healing from injuries. So far, his value is only as the recipient of dump off passes. That is a nice bonus for a running back, but should not be the meat of their production.If we were talking dynasty, then you'd have to agree that you have to sell before next year's draft, right? They ultimately intend for him to be the non-touchdown producing RB in a RBBC.

I'd say his TD ceiling is around 8 total for this season and most seasons. He's never going to be a pound it in RB. Jahvid's value is going to come from total yardage.The drafting of LeShoure was definitely a wake up call for Best owners. Although, I'm not really sure Detroit would be utilizing him too much differently. Some of those late runs against Tampa, and the goalline TD he scored against KC would have likely gone to another player. He'd still be a top 20 RB in that scenario.His receptions totals are likely to remain unchanged though in the future, along with 10-15 carries per game. The Lions clearly want to be a passing team and Jahvid Best is in those plans. Most NFL teams are becoming heavily pass oriented and adopting RBBCs anyway. The most valuable RBs in fantasy are going to be the players with the ability to catch the ball.

 

[solorca]

Judging from my leaguemates, Best holds about as much trade value as a Felix Jones right now. No one is going to pay for either of these guys right now. You might be able to get a WR2 for one of them...

From someone who owns both, I completely agree. I have been shopping both of them for various WR1 level players (in Felix's case, I was including a decent WR with the offer), and I haven't gotten the slightest bit of interest. Right now, I think both guys have more value than what you are able to get for them. If you are in a situation where you have to rely on them as your RB2 without anything significant behind them, I think you're probably sweating a bit.Even last year when he was dealing with turf toe issues and Maurice Morris was stealing most of the carries, Best was still putting up flex level PPR numbers because of his receiving skills. I know that isn't what you would be hoping for out of Best, but considering where he was drafted in most leagues, I don't think it's the worst scenario to have as a floor (as long as he isn't completely out of games).

 

[ldizzle]

im not selling...

 

[Time Kibitzer]

Best looked dangerous running the ball for the first time all year. Hard to tell if it's just because the Bears run D is terrible though. And he's gonna have a bunch of #### games if he keeps getting only 10-12 carries a game. But if he can run for the rest of the season like he did today, and continue to make plays in the receiving game, he should be a nice guy to have.

 

[footballnerd]

This is the time to shop him if you were thinking about it, Mon night football, all owners in your leagues saw how good he looked. Prob throw some packages out there and see if I can upgrade.

 

[ThePittbully]

I'm gonna seriously think about moving him this week. Value is high, if you're gonna move him I agree now is the time

 

[theoneandonly]

Yea for sure now is the time to sell

 

[ponchsox]

Why would Best owners sell if he had a breakout game? How many other teams are as potent as the Lions offensively?

 

[Prinefan]

Why would Best owners sell if he had a breakout game? How many other teams are as potent as the Lions offensively?

Plus, consider how many more years they're going to be this explosive with their youth. Granted Best has the "injury-tag". So does McFadden but nobody's selling him high right now.

 

[Short Corner]

Laughing at mcgahee for Best.

I own Best in two dynasties, 1 redraft.

I have an offer of Rice, and some garish, for my Best and orton.

2 QB League, PPR. I am wondering why I won't pull that trigger quickly?.

Perhaps we list what rbs we would give up Best for?

CJ

ADP

Mccoy

DMC

I think the above would take Best and other offerings to acquire. Rice , and Foster most likely in that mix.

Whom else?

How dense are you people?

I was fully kidding about McGahee

I thought it was pretty obvious from the beginning.

Judging by your other posts buddy, you just don't seem that smart.

Given your apparent analytical skills, I'm glad to hear that you think so.

 

[The Doctor]

ill be shopping him. might as well see what he can bring in

 

[Grahamburn]

Jahvid looks like a different player on that astroturf. He's put up big points in both of Detroit's home games. Explosive offense, explosive playmaker, 15+ touches per game, and he's facing 6-man fronts because defensive coordinators are terrified of the weapon on the outside.

He's still 8th in my league. Unless you're really blown out of the water by an offer I don't see the logic in moving him.

 

[solorca]

So what are you guys trying to get for him now? Coming into this game, I had an offer of Best for Desean Jackson, but I'm thinking that I should try for a little more now. Maybe something along the lines of Nicks, Steve Smith, or Roddy White?

 

[Khy]

I would not sell Best for much right now. Short of someone offering me something stupid for him. He is as good as he showed last night. With how lethal DET passing game is it opens the field up for rushes like that. Plus DET is finally realizing to give him more calls for outside rushes instead of pounding him up the middle six times in the first quarter and going "Meh, he's doing nothing".

After last nights game I would be shocked if he doesn't see more carries as the year progresses.

 

[solorca]

The thing that was great about last night is that he did nearly nothing in the passing game. In a normal week, he would have 5-6 catches for at least 40+ yards.

I have him as my flex starter currently and would be replacing him with either Felix or Daniel Thomas. Coming into the game yesterday, I considered him and Felix fairly interchangeable, but at this time, I'm not so sure.

 

[AmosMoses]

Anyone that references "drinking the kool aid" really doesn't know what they are talking about.

 

[PhantomJB]

The thing that was great about last night is that he did nearly nothing in the passing game. In a normal week, he would have 5-6 catches for at least 40+ yards. I have him as my flex starter currently and would be replacing him with either Felix or Daniel Thomas. Coming into the game yesterday, I considered him and Felix fairly interchangeable, but at this time, I'm not so sure.

Best did have an approx. 30-yard screen pass called back on illegal block in the back so that production still exists.

 

[steelwind]

He's a boom or bust. But that explosiveness you saw last night on a good offense can win you championships. Someone mentioned here that they got an offer DeSean Jackson for Best. In my opinion they are both the same. Boom or bust type players with extreme high upside. You might as well hold Best unless a "no brainer" offer comes along. The RB class this year are also thin. Hence you have major headlines showcasing Torain and Battle as top waiver pickups. If you let Best go in a trade you better get a top RB in return.