Gore or Addai? (1 Viewer)

[capmeo]

Standard scoring league with PPR.

I have the 4th pick

I am currently leaning toward Gore--I feel the SF offense is more balanced this year and I think Gore will produce more TD's than last year.

I also like Addai, being the feature back with Rhodes gone especially in a PPR league.

Appreciate comments.

 

[ceo3west]

Standard scoring league with PPR.I have the 4th pick I am currently leaning toward Gore--I feel the SF offense is more balanced this year and I think Gore will produce more TD's than last year.I also like Addai, being the feature back with Rhodes gone especially in a PPR league.Appreciate comments.

I like Addai personally. I don't think Gore repeats those numbers this year.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I would go with Gore. He proved he could carry the load and dominate

while doing it last season. This will be Addai's first year as the featured RB.

Gore is a beast.

 

[FantasyTrader]

I don't consider myself a huge S.O.S. guy but when making such as extremely close call as Gore vs. Addai, I think schedule can really tip the scale. I'd like to submit to you a BRUTAL Addai schedule this year: Things start off innocently enough with a Thursday Night season opener that should be a scorefest with the Saints, followed by trips to Tennessee and Houston before returning home for tilts against Denver and Tampa Bay. Indy has a week 6 bye and from there things get sticky in a hurry. In their 11 final games this year, the Colts face SEVEN top 11 rushing defenses and SEVEN of the top 13 passing defenses from '06. In the first playoff week (week 14) for most fantasy leagues the Colts will be facing the #1 2006 defense having Ravens.

I'd go with Gore.

 

[Double_J]

I'd go with LJ when he slides to you in the 4 hole. I've seen him go as far down as 7th in some mocks. Not out of the question that he slides to you at 4 if someone gets overzealous with Gore or Addai.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

A: Both.

 

[PrestonV20]

I say Gore. He did catch 20 more passes than Addai last year. That should be enough to sway your decision in a PPR league. Gore may have a drop off from last year but Addai is not necessarily the feature back yet as Dungy has been toying with getting another back involved much like last year. Either way you cant go wrong. Good luck.. maybe LJ will drop like the above people say.

 

[FFFIEND]

I really love Addai. In a way too much kind of way. The Colts stud RB is a slam dunk ... however, I still go Gore. Too good. Just too good.

 

[Slider]

I'd take Gore so I could take Wayne on the flop.

 

[duaneok66]

I don't consider myself a huge S.O.S. guy but when making such as extremely close call as Gore vs. Addai, I think schedule can really tip the scale. I'd like to submit to you a BRUTAL Addai schedule this year: Things start off innocently enough with a Thursday Night season opener that should be a scorefest with the Saints, followed by trips to Tennessee and Houston before returning home for tilts against Denver and Tampa Bay. Indy has a week 6 bye and from there things get sticky in a hurry. In their 11 final games this year, the Colts face SEVEN top 11 rushing defenses and SEVEN of the top 13 passing defenses from '06. In the first playoff week (week 14) for most fantasy leagues the Colts will be facing the #1 2006 defense having Ravens.I'd go with Gore.

I like Gore, but 5 think SOS is overrated, ESPECIALLY if you are only using last year statistics . . .

 

[Tau837]

Previous post on Addai:

Previous post on Addai:

...As for Addai, here is an interesting look at his performance:1st 8 games: 105/490/2 rushing (4.7 ypc), 19/144/1 receiving (7.6 ypr) on 26 targets, 10.2 fppg (no PPR)2nd 8 games: 121/591/5 rushing (4.9 ypc), 21/181/0 receiving (8.6 ypr) on 24 targets, 13.4 fppg (no PPR)4 playoff games: 76/294/2 rushing (3.9 ypc), 22/118/0 receiving (5.4 ypr) on 23 targets, 13.3 fppg (no PPR)First off, he averaged double figure fantasy points in each stretch... very solid. Secondly, look at how he improved his ypc and ypr in the second half as his workload increased, albeit slightly.Also, look at how his carries and targets went up in the playoffs:13.1 carries per game in 1st 8 games, 15.1 carries per game in second 8 games, 19 carries per game in the playoffs3.3 targets per game in 1st 8 games, 3.0 targets per game in second 8 games, 5.8 targets per game in the playoffsCould this carry over? Probably not at these levels--19 carries and 5.8 targets per game would be 304 carries and 93 receptions... but his usage could certainly go up given the success he had this year, even if Rhodes stays.ETA: For those who might criticize his ypc and ypr in the playoffs, I meant to mention that he played KC, BAL, NE, CHI. Given that, his performance is pretty impressive IMO.

Obviously, this was all *with* Rhodes, so I think Addai can provide great value even if Indy brings in someone else.Speaking of Rhodes, let's look at the combined regular season totals of Rhodes and Addai last year:413/1722/12 rushing76/576/1 receivingAs of now, without any obvious candidate to share the load, I'd have to go with:285/1250/8 rushing56/440/1 receivingThat is in most cases below 75% of the combined total of Rhodes and Addai last season, so there is upside there. I'm assuming Indy will have someone to claim 25% or more of the load. But if they decide Addai can handle the load a la Edgerrin James, you're looking at a top 5 RB here.This would have ranked him around RB8 last season, and he finished as RB11 as a rookie sharing time... So I think this is a reasonably conservative estimiate, barring injury.I'm targeting him.

I like him, but I'm not sure I like him at #5... no upside there.

 

[Sea Bass]

GORE!

 

[Z-Dog]

Have you watched them both? Gore is the better runner, no contest.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Gore

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Addai.

I would not be surprised in the least if he finished #1 overall this year.

 

[Family Matters]

I don't consider myself a huge S.O.S. guy but when making such as extremely close call as Gore vs. Addai, I think schedule can really tip the scale. I'd like to submit to you a BRUTAL Addai schedule this year: Things start off innocently enough with a Thursday Night season opener that should be a scorefest with the Saints, followed by trips to Tennessee and Houston before returning home for tilts against Denver and Tampa Bay. Indy has a week 6 bye and from there things get sticky in a hurry. In their 11 final games this year, the Colts face SEVEN top 11 rushing defenses and SEVEN of the top 13 passing defenses from '06. In the first playoff week (week 14) for most fantasy leagues the Colts will be facing the #1 2006 defense having Ravens.I'd go with Gore.

I can't argue with that. If the choice is between these 2 then you are in great shape but I would give Gore the edge based on what FantasyTrader has pointed out.BTW-FWIW-if DoubleJ is right and LJ slides to you then you have to take LJ.

 

[Dancing Bear]

I'd go with Addai without hesitating.

He is the #1 RB on the most consistent Offense of this millennium. The Indy RB has been a Top 10 RB in 7 out of the last 8 years from a PPG perspective [2001 - James & Rhodes].

Gore is on a shaky team, period. Too many variables and unknowns ...

I don't buy using last year's defensive statistics for comparing the Indy and SF SoS's. If you look at Clayton Gray's SoS analysis, then you'll find that Indy and SF have essentially the same seasonal grade for SoS [17.5 vs 17.7].

 

[gianmarco]

I'd go with Addai without hesitating.He is the #1 RB on the most consistent Offense of this millennium. The Indy RB has been a Top 10 RB in 7 out of the last 8 years from a PPG perspective [2001 - James & Rhodes].Gore is on a shaky team, period. Too many variables and unknowns ...I don't buy using last year's defensive statistics for comparing the Indy and SF SoS's. If you look at Clayton Gray's SoS analysis, then you'll find that Indy and SF have essentially the same seasonal grade for SoS [17.5 vs 17.7].

Gore, and I don't even think it's that close. Gore had 8 games last year of 127 or more rushing yds including 3 games over 150 yds That's impressive. And for a PPR league, he caught 60 balls for another 485 yds. His downfall last year? He only scored 8 rushing TDs and 1 receiving TDs. That's a # that could EASILY go up. Yes, he has an injury history from college. Yes, SF isn't Indy in terms of offense. However, Gore showed NO signs of his previous injuries and if you watched the guy run at all, you'd realize there's no reason he doesn't continue doing what he did last year. If his TD's do go up.......I just think that Addai's ceiling is limited. He won't rush for 1500 yds and he won't score more than 11-12 TDs. That would be fine if he had a pretty good lowside, but he has just as many questions about durability as Gore. As I said, I just don't see this as being close.Oh, and I'd take LJ over Gore, if that says anything about LJ dropping down for whatever reasons. There's gonna be a lot of #3 drafters this year disappointed they passed on him.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

RB Rushing:

SF 125.8 a game. 10 TD (+1 taken by Smith) = 11

Indy 110.1 a game 12 TD (+4 taken by Manning) = 16

Receiving

SF 83 catches 2 TD (Gore had 8.0 a catch)

Indy 76 catches 1 TD (Addai 8.1 a catch)

Have to give the slight edge to Gore... provided he can keep the goalline TDs. Addai will get the goalline TDs.

If Gore doesnt, then it pretty damn even. As I said, I'll take both - splitting hairs.

(what the hell is up with the giant space at the end of each of my posts?)

 

[Sultans]

I've watched both. Gore has twice the talent, Addai has twice the situation especially now that Norv is Gone. I would love to see what Gore would accomplish playing for the Colts.

I gotta go Gore. He down right dominated last year. I think he was the 2nd best back in football last year besides you know who.

 

[zamboni]

I say Gore. He did catch 20 more passes than Addai last year. That should be enough to sway your decision in a PPR league.

I agree with choosing Gore, but the receptions is not a barometer I would use. Addai was only a part-time back, while Gore played under Turner, who likes to have his QBs throw to the RB.

 

[Billy1x]

Equal, its the offense coordinator who will make the difference. If you can figure out what they are going to do in SF let me know.

 

[ceo3west]

I've watched both. Gore has twice the talent, Addai has twice the situation especially now that Norv is Gone. I would love to see what Gore would accomplish playing for the Colts.

I gotta go Gore. He down right dominated last year. I think he was the 2nd best back in football last year besides you know who.

I disagree, Addai is special and he'll show it this year. And I tend to trust Bill Polian when it comes to RB's. He drafted Thurman Thomas and the Edge, passing on Ricky. I think he knows talent.

 

[gianmarco]

I've watched both. Gore has twice the talent, Addai has twice the situation especially now that Norv is Gone. I would love to see what Gore would accomplish playing for the Colts.

I gotta go Gore. He down right dominated last year. I think he was the 2nd best back in football last year besides you know who.

I disagree, Addai is special and he'll show it this year. And I tend to trust Bill Polian when it comes to RB's. He drafted Thurman Thomas and the Edge, passing on Ricky. I think he knows talent.

Ricky's problem wasn't talent.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

For those of you scoring at home :

Addai - 5

Gore - 13

 

[Tau837]

For those of you scoring at home :Addai - 5Gore - 13

Good. I am hoping Addai will slide to late first round, not early to mid first round. At that point I think he'll have excellent value.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

I say Gore. He did catch 20 more passes than Addai last year. That should be enough to sway your decision in a PPR league.

I agree with choosing Gore, but the receptions is not a barometer I would use. Addai was only a part-time back, while Gore played under Turner, who likes to have his QBs throw to the RB.

I have him Gore #4 - at the moment - but am definitely concerned about the loss of Turner.

 

[switz]

Standard scoring league with PPR.I have the 4th pick I am currently leaning toward Gore--I feel the SF offense is more balanced this year and I think Gore will produce more TD's than last year.I also like Addai, being the feature back with Rhodes gone especially in a PPR league.Appreciate comments.

Gore then Addai... like #4 and #5

 

[kobbsk]

I'd go with Addai. . . gore will be a target, plus rhodes is gone, so he'll have more room to shine

I agree that it's hard to put up those kind of numbers two years in a row

 

[sholditch]

Addai.I would not be surprised in the least if he finished #1 overall this year.

And I won't be surprised when Addai finishes his career never having even sniffed the #1 spot at the end of the season, or if he never makes it into the Hall of Fame and never gets 1500 rushing. People are going nuts over Addai. It's the most ridiculous hype surrounding a player I have ever seen. This post is a perfect example.

 

[capmeo]

Great Posts!

Thanks for all the information.

Excellent insight on the Addai SOS analysis.

Still leaning Gore here.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Personally, I would go with Gore. I don't feel you can go wrong with either one but since I'm a Niners homer I'd lean with my home team.

I do feel Addai has less risk. Let's face it - while both rb's have only done it for one year, we can all agree the Colts are a LOT less likely to have a lousy year on offense than the Niners.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Personally, I would go with Gore. I don't feel you can go wrong with either one but since I'm a Niners homer I'd lean with my home team. I do feel Addai has less risk. Let's face it - while both rb's have only done it for one year, we can all agree the Colts are a LOT less likely to have a lousy year on offense than the Niners.

Can't argue with that.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

This is really close.

At this point I feel it is as close a toss up as there is in fantasy drafts this year. Both guys are the same age, both guys are coming off of successful seasons.

Changes and comments: Gore vs Addai

Gore

-49ers finished 6th in the league in rushing attempts last season. POSITIVE

-His team has signed a pretty good WR in Jackson (which should help the Niners offense). POSITIVE

-He is coming off a season where he proved his knee could remain healthy for a 16 game season in the NFL. POSITIVE

-He had 373 touches and over 2000 yards of production but only mustered out 9 TD's. NEGATIVE

-Gore plays with the 49ers who finished 24th in the leauge in points per game. NEGATIVE

-loses one of the most RB friendly offensive coordinators in the league. BIGGEST NEGATIVE

Addai

-Is now the unquestioned starter and will see an upgrade in touches this season. POSITIVE

-No changes of coordinators and is playing with the one of the most consistent offensive teams in leauge history who finished 2nd in ppg last season. POSTIVE

-8 TD's on 266 touches. POSITIVE

-Will Indy use another shared RB approach like last season which helped them win a SB. NEGATIVE (although no RB's on their roster have Rhodes history).

-How will Addai's body respond to more touches. Question marks are a NEGATIVE

At this point I feel the safer of these 2 plays is Addai. I think both of these guys warrant top 5 picks, but if I had to choose, I feel safer with Addai and the Indy offense vs Gore and the 49ers offense without N. Turner.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Addai.I would not be surprised in the least if he finished #1 overall this year.

And I won't be surprised when Addai finishes his career never having even sniffed the #1 spot at the end of the season, or if he never makes it into the Hall of Fame and never gets 1500 rushing. People are going nuts over Addai. It's the most ridiculous hype surrounding a player I have ever seen. This post is a perfect example.

Good for you.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

It's simply a question of projected workload and health. Indy has averaged 416 rush attempts and 79 passing targets intended for RBs in the last 3 years. With no other talent around to steal carries, Addai should get 75-85% of the rushing attempts. That's 312 to 353. Not out of line from what Edge used to get. 79 passing targets and again 75-85% of those would be normal with no speciality receiving back on the team. That's 41 to 47 catches.

So we have a established workload of:

312-353 rushing ATT

41-47 catches

What's he gonna average on the ground (4.8 last year)?

At 4.0 that's 1,248 to 1,412

At 4.5 that's 1,404 to 1,588

What's he gonna average through the air (8.1 last year)?

At 8.0 that's 328 to 376

At 9.0 that's 369 to 423

So you have a player who, if healthy and performs above average, can get in the neighborhood of 1,576 to 2,011 total yards. Is that enough of a baseline to put him in contention for the #1 RB overall? You bet your ### it is.

So no, it would not surprise me if Addai had an exceptional year (which is what it always takes) to finish #1.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

An easy choice. Frank Gore is a much better player than Joseph Addai.

 

[AnonymousBob]

An easy choice. Frank Gore is a much better player than Joseph Addai.

And The Colts are a much better team than The Niners.Gore >> Addai. Colts >>>>>>>>>>>> Niners.Hence the debate. Gore may (or may not) have more talent but based off the supporting cast (always a very significant factor), Addai has the advantage.

 

[Dancing Bear]

This debate is not about who is the better RB. Gore may be a better RB than Addai; that's not the question. This debate is about who will provide more Fantasy points at the end of the 2007 season.

I'm willing to bet that Addai is the 9th RB out of the past 10 years to produce as a Top 10 RB at Indy. I'm not willing to bet that Gore can be a Top 10 RB again at SF.

 

[ceo3west]

This debate is not about who is the better RB. Gore may be a better RB than Addai; that's not the question. This debate is about who will provide more Fantasy points at the end of the 2007 season.

I'm willing to bet that Addai is the 9th RB out of the past 10 years to produce as a Top 10 RB at Indy. I'm not willing to bet that Gore can be a Top 10 RB again at SF.

Didn't know that little tidbit. Goes a long way in showing how your surrounding cast plays a HUGE factor in fantasy production.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

This debate is not about who is the better RB. Gore may be a better RB than Addai; that's not the question. This debate is about who will provide more Fantasy points at the end of the 2007 season.

I'm willing to bet that Addai is the 9th RB out of the past 10 years to produce as a Top 10 RB at Indy. I'm not willing to bet that Gore can be a Top 10 RB again at SF.

I think that Frank Gore will score more points than Joseph Addai because Frank Gore is a better running back than Joseph Addai. What's so complicated about that? The fact of the matter is that Joseph Addai is looking to reach Frank Gore's level, not the other way around. And that level's pretty high. 1695 yards rushing plus another 60 catches for over 400 yards.What have you seen from Addai to make you think he can reach that level? He might but if you have to choose between the two it's simpler, safer, and ultimately smarter to pick the player who's actually done it than the one who could do it.Oh yeah those top 10 backs for the Colts in the last decade just happened to be named Marshall Faulk and Edgerrin James. If you think Joseph Addai can just go into that offense and become one of those two players then you're going to be awfully disappointed with the results or lack thereof. The players make the system not the other way around.

 

[AnonymousBob]

This debate is not about who is the better RB. Gore may be a better RB than Addai; that's not the question. This debate is about who will provide more Fantasy points at the end of the 2007 season.

I'm willing to bet that Addai is the 9th RB out of the past 10 years to produce as a Top 10 RB at Indy. I'm not willing to bet that Gore can be a Top 10 RB again at SF.

I think that Frank Gore will score more points than Joseph Addai because Frank Gore is a better running back than Joseph Addai. What's so complicated about that? The fact of the matter is that Joseph Addai is looking to reach Frank Gore's level, not the other way around. And that level's pretty high. 1695 yards rushing plus another 60 catches for over 400 yards.What have you seen from Addai to make you think he can reach that level? He might but if you have to choose between the two it's simpler, safer, and ultimately smarter to pick the player who's actually done it than the one who could do it.Oh yeah those top 10 backs for the Colts in the last decade just happened to be named Marshall Faulk and Edgerrin James. If you think Joseph Addai can just go into that offense and become one of those two players then you're going to be awfully disappointed with the results or lack thereof. The players make the system not the other way around.

So...how do you explain Edge last year? You just claimed he is some uber stud and said great players make the system. Yet with over 300 carries, he managed a CAREER low ypc of 3.4 Is he suddenly over the hill? Or might the team, offensive line, playcalling, etc. have something to do with his mediocre performance?

Better yet, let's look at the Denver Broncos. You really believe Tatum and Mike Bell, Olandis Gary, Rueben Droughns are ALL uber studs? Or do you think that perhaps the SYSTEM played a MAJOR role in their success?

As I said a few posts earlier, Gore may have more talent than Addai. Of course, let's look at everything else. Alex Smith vs. Peyton Manning. Manning is much more likely to keep drives alive and get his team to the red zone. Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne vs. DJax and...Lelie? Which rb will see more 8 man fronts?

Really, I don't know why we're all arguing this. I don't feel you can go wrong with either one.

 

[Dancing Bear]

The Man with the Plan,

I think that you are misleading yourself.

There is a significant reason why Denver RB's have succeeded over the past decade [plus] and it is not specifically RB related. It is the System, the supporting cast and how they actually play their roles within the system [in particular the O-Line] and it is in part also the RB.

The list of achieving RB's is long ... Davis, Gary, Anderson, Portis, Bell ... Surely you are not stating that all of these RB's made the System.

Indianapolis is in the same situation as Denver. The list of successful RB's is lengthy Faulk, James, Rhodes, Addai ...

Both of these teams assess and utilize talent without a doubt in all areas. Having an incredible System in place, and a fine group of players who actually play their roles is the key.

This is why Addai will succeed.

This is also why Gore is more of a risk to succeed as well. He does not have a proven System he is playing in, nor does he have a strong, proven supporting cast, and I do not see him getting the necessary performance to keep him in the Top 10.

 

[Scruff Mcgruff]

The Man with the Plan,I think that you are misleading yourself.There is a significant reason why Denver RB's have succeeded over the past decade [plus] and it is not specifically RB related. It is the System, the supporting cast and how they actually play their roles within the system [in particular the O-Line] and it is in part also the RB.The list of achieving RB's is long ... Davis, Gary, Anderson, Portis, Bell ... Surely you are not stating that all of these RB's made the System.Indianapolis is in the same situation as Denver. The list of successful RB's is lengthy Faulk, James, Rhodes, Addai ...Both of these teams assess and utilize talent without a doubt in all areas. Having an incredible System in place, and a fine group of players who actually play their roles is the key.This is why Addai will succeed.This is also why Gore is more of a risk to succeed as well. He does not have a proven System he is playing in, nor does he have a strong, proven supporting cast, and I do not see him getting the necessary performance to keep him in the Top 10.

I was ecstatic with gore's performance last year, and I do sincerely believe he IS the better player. But with norm gone and that San Fran offense besides him as underwhelming as it is, I'll take Addai and that indy offense over him every time.Addai is going to be a TD machine this year if nothing else.

 

[Power Monster]

I like Gore.

I like the schedule more and I see a lot of scoring games and chances within the division.

I like the SF OL a lot this year.

I think that he is the cornerstone of the offense and will get more targets especially in games that the 49'ers are behind in. A lot more than I can say for Addai.

The 49'ers are up and coming and while they are not in the same class as the Colts I have to think that they are going up while the Colts are coming back to earth. Slowly but surely.

PPR scoring formats just love a guy like Gore.

The injury thing can happen to any player but in the NFL Gore has been decent thus far. Yes not a huge track record but you can fear the injury and let him (and all that value) drop to someone else and then watch Addai get hurt just the same. A pure gamble when it comes to injuries. Just because every other FBG Shark will claim they saw a Gore type player get hurt and they pound their chest about how they "knew it all along" it certainly should not detract from drafting him.

 

[derek19]

I like Gore.

I like the schedule more and I see a lot of scoring games and chances within the division.

I like the SF OL a lot this year.

I think that he is the cornerstone of the offense and will get more targets especially in games that the 49'ers are behind in. A lot more than I can say for Addai.

The 49'ers are up and coming and while they are not in the same class as the Colts I have to think that they are going up while the Colts are coming back to earth. Slowly but surely.

PPR scoring formats just love a guy like Gore.

The injury thing can happen to any player but in the NFL Gore has been decent thus far. Yes not a huge track record but you can fear the injury and let him (and all that value) drop to someone else and then watch Addai get hurt just the same. A pure gamble when it comes to injuries. Just because every other FBG Shark will claim they saw a Gore type player get hurt and they pound their chest about how they "knew it all along" it certainly should not detract from drafting him.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

The Man with the Plan,I think that you are misleading yourself.There is a significant reason why Denver RB's have succeeded over the past decade [plus] and it is not specifically RB related. It is the System, the supporting cast and how they actually play their roles within the system [in particular the O-Line] and it is in part also the RB.The list of achieving RB's is long ... Davis, Gary, Anderson, Portis, Bell ... Surely you are not stating that all of these RB's made the System.Indianapolis is in the same situation as Denver. The list of successful RB's is lengthy Faulk, James, Rhodes, Addai ...Both of these teams assess and utilize talent without a doubt in all areas. Having an incredible System in place, and a fine group of players who actually play their roles is the key.This is why Addai will succeed.This is also why Gore is more of a risk to succeed as well. He does not have a proven System he is playing in, nor does he have a strong, proven supporting cast, and I do not see him getting the necessary performance to keep him in the Top 10.

So what you're telling me is that even though Frank Gore was a top five running back last year with a very bad team he won't be a top 10 running back this year because he's on a very bad team? What kind of sense does that make?With everything going against Frank Gore last season (though it's a little overstated) he somehow got 1695 yards, over 2000 yards from scrimmage, 9tds and was the 4th ranked rb in 2006. That's more encouraging than anything else. If the 49ers still suck, fine. He gets his 2k and does what he's proven what he can do. If the defense or offense actually play better then the sky's the limit for Gore.I'm not sure that listing those rbs for the Denver and Indianapolis "systems" help your argument. Only Faulk, TD, Portis, and Edge were any good. Faulk and Portis and to a lesser extent Edge proved that they could play great elsewhere. Look at everyone else though. Olandis Gary was a 1 year wonder who washed out. Mike Anderson was a 1, maybe 2 year wonder. Dominic Rhodes is another one year wonder who was horrible last season in the Colts offensive "system" If Denver's system can just use any back why did they have to go out and sign Travis Henry? Why not just plug Mike Bell in there and save money.Maybe talent has a little bit more to do with it than you might think.I'll make it simple. Frank Gore is a proven stud. Joseph Addai as of yet is not. I will always take the proven player over the unproven player. The fact that Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, and to a much lesser extent Dominic Rhodes played well for the Indianapolis Colts has little bearing on how Joseph Addai will play for them. Just one final thing though. I find it hard to believe that a player is being touted as a top 5 pick when last season who couldn't even start a game last season over Dominic Rhodes. Anything's possible I guess. Except for Joseph Addai playing better than Frank Gore this year. That's definitely impossible.

 

[Dancing Bear]

The Man with the Plan,

You are certainly trying to spin things ...

Gore could not supplant, who was it? Oh yeah it was the mighty Kevan Barlow as the starter in his first year ... Gore finished at RB #38.

Addai may not have started in his first year because of the RBBC, but he finished at RB #11. Wouldn't you say that superior to #38 as a first year performance?

As the sole RB in Indy there is even more reason for optimism this year, and more reason to believe his performance will be in the Top 10.

Gore has too many unknowns in SF, and 1 year of data is not enough to proclaim him the next LT2 and Top 5 material each year.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

The Man with the Plan,You are certainly trying to spin things ...Gore could not supplant, who was it? Oh yeah it was the mighty Kevan Barlow as the starter in his first year ... Gore finished at RB #38.Addai may not have started in his first year because of the RBBC, but he finished at RB #11. Wouldn't you say that superior to #38 as a first year performance?As the sole RB in Indy there is even more reason for optimism this year, and more reason to believe his performance will be in the Top 10.Gore has too many unknowns in SF, and 1 year of data is not enough to proclaim him the next LT2 and Top 5 material each year.

Hmmm. It almost sounds like you're telling me that you think Joseph Addai is more talented than Frank Gore. If that's what you truly believe, I can respect that. I disagree totally but I can still respect that.Frank Gore finishing 38th in 2005 is irrelevant. Frank Gore finishing 4th in 2006 is very relevant. We now know he can be a top 5 running back. The fact of the matter is he is a proven stud player. Guys don't do what he did last year and just go away. It doesn't work like that. What's so unknown about Frank Gore's situation anyways? His team's the same as it's always been. If not better considering that they upgraded the offense and the defense. That can only help him. So I think he can do better. I think he will do better. I'll admit it's hard for him to play better since he was so great last season but if he can get the ball as many times as LT, LJ, and SJax did there's no reason why he can't perform at an equally high level.And please don't start with that Norv Turner isn't there anymore so all of his magic is gone and Frank Gore will turn back into a fantasy football pumpkin mess. Just don't go there.

 

[derek19]

The Man with the Plan,

You are certainly trying to spin things ...

Gore could not supplant, who was it? Oh yeah it was the mighty Kevan Barlow as the starter in his first year ... Gore finished at RB #38.

Addai may not have started in his first year because of the RBBC, but he finished at RB #11. Wouldn't you say that superior to #38 as a first year performance?

As the sole RB in Indy there is even more reason for optimism this year, and more reason to believe his performance will be in the Top 10.

Gore has too many unknowns in SF, and 1 year of data is not enough to proclaim him the next LT2 and Top 5 material each year.

Where did barlow finish that year?