Gore or Addai? (1 Viewer)

[switz]

Addai.I would not be surprised in the least if he finished #1 overall this year.

And I won't be surprised when Addai finishes his career never having even sniffed the #1 spot at the end of the season, or if he never makes it into the Hall of Fame and never gets 1500 rushing. People are going nuts over Addai. It's the most ridiculous hype surrounding a player I have ever seen. This post is a perfect example.

Of course it can go both ways... the chances of any RB ever finishing #1 overall is slim. Of course someone has to, but out of the 90+ RBs in the league, their individual chances are slim.So we have to look at the components, and make a best guess case...Addai has the talent, the situation, and the surrounding cast to do it... he's even fortunate to be playing while Manning finally realizes he can't pass every down and win.Things are lined up to make it more likely for Addai to finish #1 than the average starting RB...

 

[switz]

I'll make it simple. Frank Gore is a proven stud. Joseph Addai as of yet is not. I will always take the proven player over the unproven player. The fact that Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, and to a much lesser extent Dominic Rhodes played well for the Indianapolis Colts has little bearing on how Joseph Addai will play for them. Just one final thing though. I find it hard to believe that a player is being touted as a top 5 pick when last season who couldn't even start a game last season over Dominic Rhodes. Anything's possible I guess. Except for Joseph Addai playing better than Frank Gore this year. That's definitely impossible.

You may want to get your facts straight.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

I'll make it simple. Frank Gore is a proven stud. Joseph Addai as of yet is not. I will always take the proven player over the unproven player. The fact that Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, and to a much lesser extent Dominic Rhodes played well for the Indianapolis Colts has little bearing on how Joseph Addai will play for them. Just one final thing though. I find it hard to believe that a player is being touted as a top 5 pick when last season who couldn't even start a game last season over Dominic Rhodes. Anything's possible I guess. Except for Joseph Addai playing better than Frank Gore this year. That's definitely impossible.

You may want to get your facts straight.

Joseph Addai GP 16 GS 0Dominic Rhodes GP 16 GS 16

 

[Family Matters]

I'll make it simple. Frank Gore is a proven stud. Joseph Addai as of yet is not. I will always take the proven player over the unproven player. The fact that Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, and to a much lesser extent Dominic Rhodes played well for the Indianapolis Colts has little bearing on how Joseph Addai will play for them. Just one final thing though. I find it hard to believe that a player is being touted as a top 5 pick when last season who couldn't even start a game last season over Dominic Rhodes. Anything's possible I guess. Except for Joseph Addai playing better than Frank Gore this year. That's definitely impossible.

You may want to get your facts straight.

Joseph Addai GP 16 GS 0Dominic Rhodes GP 16 GS 16

Not sure why it shows that way but it's incorrect. Of course anyone that follows the NFL knows this already.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

I'll make it simple. Frank Gore is a proven stud. Joseph Addai as of yet is not. I will always take the proven player over the unproven player. The fact that Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, and to a much lesser extent Dominic Rhodes played well for the Indianapolis Colts has little bearing on how Joseph Addai will play for them. Just one final thing though. I find it hard to believe that a player is being touted as a top 5 pick when last season who couldn't even start a game last season over Dominic Rhodes. Anything's possible I guess. Except for Joseph Addai playing better than Frank Gore this year. That's definitely impossible.

You may want to get your facts straight.

Joseph Addai GP 16 GS 0Dominic Rhodes GP 16 GS 16

Not sure why it shows that way but it's incorrect. Of course anyone that follows the NFL knows this already.

NFL.com says Joseph Addai started 0 games but it's incorrect because you say so. Okay. Since you follow the NFL and I don't (seeing as I don't believe he started any games) could you please inform me on how many games he started in 2006. I'm just curious.

 

[Mmen of Steel]

Doesn't this go into the AC forum?

My $0.02....Curtis Martin....posed for a breakout.

 

[Family Matters]

I'll make it simple. Frank Gore is a proven stud. Joseph Addai as of yet is not. I will always take the proven player over the unproven player. The fact that Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, and to a much lesser extent Dominic Rhodes played well for the Indianapolis Colts has little bearing on how Joseph Addai will play for them. Just one final thing though. I find it hard to believe that a player is being touted as a top 5 pick when last season who couldn't even start a game last season over Dominic Rhodes. Anything's possible I guess. Except for Joseph Addai playing better than Frank Gore this year. That's definitely impossible.

You may want to get your facts straight.

Joseph Addai GP 16 GS 0Dominic Rhodes GP 16 GS 16

Not sure why it shows that way but it's incorrect. Of course anyone that follows the NFL knows this already.

NFL.com says Joseph Addai started 0 games but it's incorrect because you say so. Okay. Since you follow the NFL and I don't (seeing as I don't believe he started any games) could you please inform me on how many games he started in 2006. I'm just curious.

If you have to ask.....Seriously, what point are you trying to make? Let's just say for arguments sake that he never started (technically) 1 game. What would that tell you that would enable you to comment intelligently about Addai's projected season? Please share the difference and what that might look like. I'll hang up and listen.

 

[FFdork]

Did anyone read the interview with Mike Chappell on FBG? It's free content so I don't think it's OK to quote it:

I think you're going to see Addai carry more. I think he averaged 14 carries a game (last year). I think you'll see him in the 18/19 range probably, but they would really like to keep him fresh, and for that to happen, they need a guy to step up and play.

I don't know if he knows what he's talking about or not, but this would worry me a little at the #4 or 5 pick. Chappell goes on to point out the obvious fact that they need someone to step up to share carries, so it remains to be seen if anyone will. He could certainly be extremely productive on 19 carries a game (that puts him on pace for about 300 total) with a few touches in the passing game. Still, if the Colts would like to limit Addai to keep him fresh for the playoff run that could cap his upside for the FF season.

 

[capmeo]

Doesn't this go into the AC forum?My $0.02....Curtis Martin....posed for a breakout.

NO

 

[King of the Jungle]

Did anyone read the interview with Mike Chappell on FBG? It's free content so I don't think it's OK to quote it:

I think you're going to see Addai carry more. I think he averaged 14 carries a game (last year). I think you'll see him in the 18/19 range probably, but they would really like to keep him fresh, and for that to happen, they need a guy to step up and play.

I don't know if he knows what he's talking about or not, but this would worry me a little at the #4 or 5 pick. Chappell goes on to point out the obvious fact that they need someone to step up to share carries, so it remains to be seen if anyone will. He could certainly be extremely productive on 19 carries a game (that puts him on pace for about 300 total) with a few touches in the passing game. Still, if the Colts would like to limit Addai to keep him fresh for the playoff run that could cap his upside for the FF season.

As an Addai dynasty I would love if he received 18 carries a game. If he catches fewer than 50 passes this year, I will be shocked (40 last year as a rook and splitting carries/ 10 in the Super Bowl). IMO, Addai has one of the higher floors after the top 4 RBs, and always presents good upside. Teams always would love to "keep players fresh" for the playoffs, but all of a sudden the season starts and they realize that they need those players to win games to get them to that point. Non issue IMO.

 

[switz]

I'll make it simple. Frank Gore is a proven stud. Joseph Addai as of yet is not. I will always take the proven player over the unproven player. The fact that Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, and to a much lesser extent Dominic Rhodes played well for the Indianapolis Colts has little bearing on how Joseph Addai will play for them. Just one final thing though. I find it hard to believe that a player is being touted as a top 5 pick when last season who couldn't even start a game last season over Dominic Rhodes. Anything's possible I guess. Except for Joseph Addai playing better than Frank Gore this year. That's definitely impossible.

You may want to get your facts straight.

Joseph Addai GP 16 GS 0Dominic Rhodes GP 16 GS 16

Addai started in the playoffs, ahead of Rhodes. Thanks for doing the research.

 

[mdog1967]

Addai.I would not be surprised in the least if he finished #1 overall this year.

I think Gore is a Stud and Addai is a Good solid Running back, interested in the Addai finishing first this year overall with the skedual the Colts face and the 30 Plus TD's Manning will throw. Open to be swayed

 

[mdog1967]

Addai.I would not be surprised in the least if he finished #1 overall this year.

And I won't be surprised when Addai finishes his career never having even sniffed the #1 spot at the end of the season, or if he never makes it into the Hall of Fame and never gets 1500 rushing. People are going nuts over Addai. It's the most ridiculous hype surrounding a player I have ever seen. This post is a perfect example.

And here is the Problem, Addai has talent as do most RB's drafted into the league. Gore is a Phenom and a Killer on the Field. I think he Actually runs towords the defender to Run him over rather than go around. I like Addai and his situation a whole lot. I also think the Colts are as likely to underperform this year as repeat an apperance in the SuperBowel. I would take Edge's best year in the League and shave about 20% of the Total and that would be Addai's Ceiling. Not scientific just gut, Addai is Good but he Aint no Edge, not even close. I think the Dungy way is to share the Load, Addai may very well be the number one Rusher some day. I watched many of the Colts games last year and felt that Addai was solid but JUST SOLID. People should take a breath and realize that there is Hope and there is reality. If you own him your right here talking 20TDS and 3000 yds rushing, if you dont and you plan on taking him in a re-draft then I think your not going to be as high on the guy. I'll take LT, Johnson, Gore, Jackson, Parker, Alexander, Westbrook, Green(yes Green), Edge and Lynch before selecting Addai. I think this will go down as another one of those FootballGuys blew it yet again on thier over hyping the production of a 2nd year back. FBG falls in love to quickly with Sleepers and "Break Out Players" somtimes and shoots the collective opinion of this site right in the foot. It may be an essential site and a must own, but they do go out there somtimes, Addai at number 5? come on guys... I Feel another Drew Bennet moment coming on. Stats never lie, but they are only as good as last year. Trying to figure 3.4567 yds per carry at 7 touches but 4.19876 yds per carry is okay and can be usefull, they tell you WHAT happend they dont tell you what will happen. That brings us back to pure talent, there is no credible way anyone could have watched both Gore and Addai play last year and state that Addai was the better back, Take Gore and a few others ahead of Addai and you wont feel the sting of reaching for a solid number two back.

 

[mdog1967]

I'll make it simple. Frank Gore is a proven stud. Joseph Addai as of yet is not. I will always take the proven player over the unproven player. The fact that Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, and to a much lesser extent Dominic Rhodes played well for the Indianapolis Colts has little bearing on how Joseph Addai will play for them. Just one final thing though. I find it hard to believe that a player is being touted as a top 5 pick when last season who couldn't even start a game last season over Dominic Rhodes. Anything's possible I guess. Except for Joseph Addai playing better than Frank Gore this year. That's definitely impossible.

You may want to get your facts straight.

Joseph Addai GP 16 GS 0Dominic Rhodes GP 16 GS 16

Not sure why it shows that way but it's incorrect. Of course anyone that follows the NFL knows this already.

NFL.com says Joseph Addai started 0 games but it's incorrect because you say so. Okay. Since you follow the NFL and I don't (seeing as I don't believe he started any games) could you please inform me on how many games he started in 2006. I'm just curious.

If you have to ask.....Seriously, what point are you trying to make? Let's just say for arguments sake that he never started (technically) 1 game. What would that tell you that would enable you to comment intelligently about Addai's projected season? Please share the difference and what that might look like. I'll hang up and listen.

Oh its you Family Matters, thought I would'nt get my daily dose of sarcastic BS today.

 

[duaneok66]

Addai.I would not be surprised in the least if he finished #1 overall this year.

And I won't be surprised when Addai finishes his career never having even sniffed the #1 spot at the end of the season, or if he never makes it into the Hall of Fame and never gets 1500 rushing. People are going nuts over Addai. It's the most ridiculous hype surrounding a player I have ever seen. This post is a perfect example.

And here is the Problem, Addai has talent as do most RB's drafted into the league. Gore is a Phenom and a Killer on the Field. I think he Actually runs towords the defender to Run him over rather than go around. I like Addai and his situation a whole lot. I also think the Colts are as likely to underperform this year as repeat an apperance in the SuperBowel. I would take Edge's best year in the League and shave about 20% of the Total and that would be Addai's Ceiling. Not scientific just gut, Addai is Good but he Aint no Edge, not even close. I think the Dungy way is to share the Load, Addai may very well be the number one Rusher some day. I watched many of the Colts games last year and felt that Addai was solid but JUST SOLID. People should take a breath and realize that there is Hope and there is reality. If you own him your right here talking 20TDS and 3000 yds rushing, if you dont and you plan on taking him in a re-draft then I think your not going to be as high on the guy. I'll take LT, Johnson, Gore, Jackson, Parker, Alexander, Westbrook, Green(yes Green), Edge and Lynch before selecting Addai. I think this will go down as another one of those FootballGuys blew it yet again on thier over hyping the production of a 2nd year back. FBG falls in love to quickly with Sleepers and "Break Out Players" somtimes and shoots the collective opinion of this site right in the foot. It may be an essential site and a must own, but they do go out there somtimes, Addai at number 5? come on guys... I Feel another Drew Bennet moment coming on. Stats never lie, but they are only as good as last year. Trying to figure 3.4567 yds per carry at 7 touches but 4.19876 yds per carry is okay and can be usefull, they tell you WHAT happend they dont tell you what will happen. That brings us back to pure talent, there is no credible way anyone could have watched both Gore and Addai play last year and state that Addai was the better back, Take Gore and a few others ahead of Addai and you wont feel the sting of reaching for a solid number two back.

good post, however I think few people in this post are disputing who is better . . .Addai is in a better position to score fantasy points, so that's why some prefer Addai . . .Rhodes is a mediocre NFL running back, but he was a fantasy factor last year because of his situation . . .

 

[switz]

I'll make it simple. Frank Gore is a proven stud. Joseph Addai as of yet is not. I will always take the proven player over the unproven player. The fact that Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, and to a much lesser extent Dominic Rhodes played well for the Indianapolis Colts has little bearing on how Joseph Addai will play for them. Just one final thing though. I find it hard to believe that a player is being touted as a top 5 pick when last season who couldn't even start a game last season over Dominic Rhodes. Anything's possible I guess. Except for Joseph Addai playing better than Frank Gore this year. That's definitely impossible.

You may want to get your facts straight.

Joseph Addai GP 16 GS 0Dominic Rhodes GP 16 GS 16

Not sure why it shows that way but it's incorrect. Of course anyone that follows the NFL knows this already.

NFL.com says Joseph Addai started 0 games but it's incorrect because you say so. Okay. Since you follow the NFL and I don't (seeing as I don't believe he started any games) could you please inform me on how many games he started in 2006. I'm just curious.

If you have to ask.....Seriously, what point are you trying to make? Let's just say for arguments sake that he never started (technically) 1 game. What would that tell you that would enable you to comment intelligently about Addai's projected season? Please share the difference and what that might look like. I'll hang up and listen.

Oh its you Family Matters, thought I would'nt get my daily dose of sarcastic BS today.

Not a Family Matters fan, but please - you had that coming to you. Nevermind the fact you're wrong.

 

[FavreCo]

Addai.I would not be surprised in the least if he finished #1 overall this year.

 

[mdog1967]

I'll make it simple. Frank Gore is a proven stud. Joseph Addai as of yet is not. I will always take the proven player over the unproven player. The fact that Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, and to a much lesser extent Dominic Rhodes played well for the Indianapolis Colts has little bearing on how Joseph Addai will play for them. Just one final thing though. I find it hard to believe that a player is being touted as a top 5 pick when last season who couldn't even start a game last season over Dominic Rhodes. Anything's possible I guess. Except for Joseph Addai playing better than Frank Gore this year. That's definitely impossible.

You may want to get your facts straight.

Joseph Addai GP 16 GS 0Dominic Rhodes GP 16 GS 16

Not sure why it shows that way but it's incorrect. Of course anyone that follows the NFL knows this already.

NFL.com says Joseph Addai started 0 games but it's incorrect because you say so. Okay. Since you follow the NFL and I don't (seeing as I don't believe he started any games) could you please inform me on how many games he started in 2006. I'm just curious.

If you have to ask.....Seriously, what point are you trying to make? Let's just say for arguments sake that he never started (technically) 1 game. What would that tell you that would enable you to comment intelligently about Addai's projected season? Please share the difference and what that might look like. I'll hang up and listen.

Oh its you Family Matters, thought I would'nt get my daily dose of sarcastic BS today.

Not a Family Matters fan, but please - you had that coming to you. Nevermind the fact you're wrong.

Family Matters reply was not to mine, "I am" a Family Matters fan because I too tend to get a little sarcastic at times. Without it we would all tend to take ourselves too seriously.

 

[Family Matters]

I'll make it simple. Frank Gore is a proven stud. Joseph Addai as of yet is not. I will always take the proven player over the unproven player. The fact that Marshall Faulk, Edgerrin James, and to a much lesser extent Dominic Rhodes played well for the Indianapolis Colts has little bearing on how Joseph Addai will play for them. Just one final thing though. I find it hard to believe that a player is being touted as a top 5 pick when last season who couldn't even start a game last season over Dominic Rhodes. Anything's possible I guess. Except for Joseph Addai playing better than Frank Gore this year. That's definitely impossible.

You may want to get your facts straight.

Joseph Addai GP 16 GS 0Dominic Rhodes GP 16 GS 16

Not sure why it shows that way but it's incorrect. Of course anyone that follows the NFL knows this already.

NFL.com says Joseph Addai started 0 games but it's incorrect because you say so. Okay. Since you follow the NFL and I don't (seeing as I don't believe he started any games) could you please inform me on how many games he started in 2006. I'm just curious.

If you have to ask.....Seriously, what point are you trying to make? Let's just say for arguments sake that he never started (technically) 1 game. What would that tell you that would enable you to comment intelligently about Addai's projected season? Please share the difference and what that might look like. I'll hang up and listen.

Oh its you Family Matters, thought I would'nt get my daily dose of sarcastic BS today.

Not a Family Matters fan, but please - you had that coming to you. Nevermind the fact you're wrong.

Family Matters reply was not to mine, "I am" a Family Matters fan because I too tend to get a little sarcastic at times. Without it we would all tend to take ourselves too seriously.

This is getting strange. I was just trying to figure out what Plans point was. He seems hung up on a pointless stat that is useless and as Switz points out, wrong, in this discussion. It has no bearing on Addai's prognosis for this coming year. But once in a while a little sarcasm is in order. And you're right mdog, we shouldn't take ourselves too seriously.

 

[Josh the FunkDOC]

Actually, in FO's advanced efficiency stats, Addai last year was more or less equal to Edge in Indy. Which leads me to believe it's the system that's gold more than anything else.

However, I would still rate Gore slightly above him just because of the pathetic NFC West schedules. Can't go wrong with either, relatively speaking.

-Josh