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Bottom line, when i diagnose an injury listen up, i know what i'm talking about due to years of watching football and seeing numerous injuries.
That's hilarious. And trust me, I know funny when I see it, due to years of reading internet forums and seeing lots of funny stuff.
 
For what it's worth...

According to some insiders, Jackson is an ordinary rusher with mediocre abilities. Their observations are misguided. Drafted in Round 2 of a largely underwhelming 2007 RB draft class, the “Brick Cheese” is an undersized yet balanced rusher with plus versatility, vision and strength between the tackles. Excellent in a pinch and melted on rye, he’s better than your average third-down back. Filling the void in two-plus quarters against a fairly rigid Eagles run defense, the 24-year-old totaled 75 yards on 20 touches – not extraordinary, but useful.

Yes, he’s more grinder than greyhound, but in a zone-blocking system predicated on one-cut-and-go runs you don’t have to be phenomenally skilled to achieve success. Just look at what undrafted product Arian Foster(notes) accomplished in a similar scheme on Sunday against the Colts.
The rest of the article is here. Dude says Jackson is now an "upside RB2". Worth a read.
 
http://www.sports-injury-info.com/ankle-sprain-recovery.html

Grade II sprains are the most common ankle sprains, and they have the most varying recovery time. The tissue damage is not severe, however it is significant. And the initial care, espeically rest, will determine how long recovery will take. If all other factors are favorable, Grade II sprains should take 4-6 weeks to heal.

Take it for what it is worth... a quick 5-10 minute google search seems to indicate this was the most common diagnosis.

 
http://www.sports-injury-info.com/ankle-sprain-recovery.html

Grade II sprains are the most common ankle sprains, and they have the most varying recovery time. The tissue damage is not severe, however it is significant. And the initial care, espeically rest, will determine how long recovery will take. If all other factors are favorable, Grade II sprains should take 4-6 weeks to heal.

Take it for what it is worth... a quick 5-10 minute google search seems to indicate this was the most common diagnosis.
Good stuff. Let's also take into account that athletes, on average, tend to heal more rapidly.
 
http://www.sports-injury-info.com/ankle-sprain-recovery.html

Grade II sprains are the most common ankle sprains, and they have the most varying recovery time. The tissue damage is not severe, however it is significant. And the initial care, espeically rest, will determine how long recovery will take. If all other factors are favorable, Grade II sprains should take 4-6 weeks to heal.

Take it for what it is worth... a quick 5-10 minute google search seems to indicate this was the most common diagnosis.
Good stuff. Let's also take into account that athletes, on average, tend to heal more rapidly.
I believe Blaine Gabbert suffered a grade 2 sprain last year in the 5th game and he wasn't 100% the rest of the season, but he played through it...albeit not very mobile.I saw what it did to Gabbert, I can't imagine a RB would be 100% in 3-4 if it was the same injury.

 
http://www.sports-injury-info.com/ankle-sprain-recovery.html

Grade II sprains are the most common ankle sprains, and they have the most varying recovery time. The tissue damage is not severe, however it is significant. And the initial care, espeically rest, will determine how long recovery will take. If all other factors are favorable, Grade II sprains should take 4-6 weeks to heal.

Take it for what it is worth... a quick 5-10 minute google search seems to indicate this was the most common diagnosis.
Good stuff. Let's also take into account that athletes, on average, tend to heal more rapidly.
I believe Blaine Gabbert suffered a grade 2 sprain last year in the 5th game and he wasn't 100% the rest of the season, but he played through it...albeit not very mobile.I saw what it did to Gabbert, I can't imagine a RB would be 100% in 3-4 if it was the same injury.
:goodposting: Was Kevin Jones a grade 2 or 3 a couple years ago? He was pretty much useless the rest of the season even after he came back from it. I've got Grant in a couple of leagues and I'm now planning on him being useless for FF purposes the rest of the season.

 
http://www.sports-injury-info.com/ankle-sprain-recovery.html

Grade II sprains are the most common ankle sprains, and they have the most varying recovery time. The tissue damage is not severe, however it is significant. And the initial care, espeically rest, will determine how long recovery will take. If all other factors are favorable, Grade II sprains should take 4-6 weeks to heal.

Take it for what it is worth... a quick 5-10 minute google search seems to indicate this was the most common diagnosis.
Good stuff. Let's also take into account that athletes, on average, tend to heal more rapidly.
I believe suffered a grade 2 sprain last year in the 5th game and he wasn't 100% the rest of the season, but he played through it...albeit not very mobile.I saw what it did to Gabbert, I can't imagine a RB would be 100% in 3-4 if it was the same injury.
As a RB he will have to wait until it is completely healed or risk re-injury. The pack probably can survive wthout him for quite a while. I would expect him to be out about 6 weeks if it is a Grade 2 sprain but if they wait that long he should come back 100%. A common problem with these type of injuries is that often players try to come back too soon from them. The longer they wait to bring him back the healthier he will be when he returns.

I personally have had a Grade 2 sprain from playing basketball. I could barely walk for about 2 weeks but then it got felt better but it is still wasn't stable enough to play on. It was only after I rested it for 2 months that it completed healed.

 
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One should keep in mind Michael Turner last year when he tried to come back from his high ankle sprain.

While all ankle injuries are obviously not alike, This might not be a few-weeks-and-it's-over type of thing.

 
http://www.sports-injury-info.com/ankle-sprain-recovery.html

Grade II sprains are the most common ankle sprains, and they have the most varying recovery time. The tissue damage is not severe, however it is significant. And the initial care, espeically rest, will determine how long recovery will take. If all other factors are favorable, Grade II sprains should take 4-6 weeks to heal.

Take it for what it is worth... a quick 5-10 minute google search seems to indicate this was the most common diagnosis.
Good stuff. Let's also take into account that athletes, on average, tend to heal more rapidly.
I believe suffered a grade 2 sprain last year in the 5th game and he wasn't 100% the rest of the season, but he played through it...albeit not very mobile.I saw what it did to Gabbert, I can't imagine a RB would be 100% in 3-4 if it was the same injury.
As a RB he will have to wait until it is completely healed or risk re-injury. The pack probably can survive wthout him for quite a while. I would expect him to be out about 6 weeks if it is a Grade 2 sprain but if they wait that long he should come back 100%. A common problem with these type of injuries is that often players try to come back too soon from them. The longer they wait to bring him back the healthier he will be when he returns.

I personally have had a Grade 2 sprain from playing basketball. I could barely walk for about 2 weeks but then it got felt better but it is still wasn't stable enough to play on. It was only after I rested it for 2 months that it completed healed.
Have had a couple of grade 2's and a grade 3 (with 2 grade 2's at the same time). I would say 6 weeks minimum, but I have never had access to the type of rehab facilities that are in play here, not to mention the time to commit to it. If he comes back too soon he will be significantly less mobile.
 
One should keep in mind Michael Turner last year when he tried to come back from his high ankle sprain.While all ankle injuries are obviously not alike, This might not be a few-weeks-and-it's-over type of thing.
Turner was a perfect example of someone trying to coming back too soon from an anke injury. He would have been much better off missing 3-4 weeks last year but he tried to play through it and it just doesn't work with ankles.
 
bottom line is no one knows what Jackson can do as he hasnt had a real chance to show it. I think anyone who ignores this opportunity is CRAZY. grab Jackson, drop your worthless back up TE or defense or WR4/5...make room and get him. If your right, you have trade bait, RB depth, every week starter...etc, if you ar wrong cut bait and move on. I would get him, but I happened to draft him with my last pick :lol:

 
BTW-the Brandon Jackson experiment has been done before and it flopped badly. I wouldn't be tripping over others to run and grab him. You think Ryan Grant looks avg in a high octane offense...there is always a tendency especially at RB for owners to assume the next guy will be just as good. When a back up QB steps in most owners start to grimace but when it's a back up RB for some reason there is optimism of found gold on a Carribbean beach and I'm not sure why that is.
And the Packer O-line looked pretty average. That should be taken into consideration
 
BTW-the Brandon Jackson experiment has been done before and it flopped badly. I wouldn't be tripping over others to run and grab him. You think Ryan Grant looks avg in a high octane offense...there is always a tendency especially at RB for owners to assume the next guy will be just as good. When a back up QB steps in most owners start to grimace but when it's a back up RB for some reason there is optimism of found gold on a Carribbean beach and I'm not sure why that is.
And the Packer O-line looked pretty average. That should be taken into consideration
The line looked fine as Grant was ripping off a few nice runs before getting hurt.Also on the drive that ended in Kuhn's TD.It did not look good in pass blocking early, nor late when the Eagles knew they were going to run the ball.IMO, the need to run more over Sitton's side. He is the only lineman they have that seems to push ahead and through his man and plays with a bit more toughness.
 
BTW-the Brandon Jackson experiment has been done before and it flopped badly. I wouldn't be tripping over others to run and grab him. You think Ryan Grant looks avg in a high octane offense...there is always a tendency especially at RB for owners to assume the next guy will be just as good. When a back up QB steps in most owners start to grimace but when it's a back up RB for some reason there is optimism of found gold on a Carribbean beach and I'm not sure why that is.
And the Packer O-line looked pretty average. That should be taken into consideration
They were not great, but total rushing for the pack was 33 rushes for 132 yards, 4.0 average, 1 td - not Houston numbers but way better than almost all other teams did for W1 statsMore rushes than most, more yards than most, decent ypc.You sleep on BJ you will regret it if Grant does not come back in 1-2 weeks.
 
(SportsGrumblings) Packers RB Grant out next week Analysis: The Packers also will be without running back Ryan Grant for at least a week after he sustained what McCarthy called a "significant" ankle injury that involved ligament damage.<p> Grant, who was wearing a protective walking boot on his right foot after the injury, said after Sunday's game that his ankle was only sprained and not broken. (AP)

 
Brandon Jackson's trade value, any opinions?I'm thinking a late first + a young prospect player.
I doubt anyone will give up a 1st for him as it seems grant is entrenched as the starter when he returns.This is a good time for jackson to audition for other teams though so of he performs really well he might be worth a 1st later on, but not at the moment.I put his current value at a decent 2nd round rookie pick.
 
Brandon Jackson's trade value, any opinions?I'm thinking a late first + a young prospect player.
I doubt anyone will give up a 1st for him as it seems grant is entrenched as the starter when he returns.This is a good time for jackson to audition for other teams though so of he performs really well he might be worth a 1st later on, but not at the moment.I put his current value at a decent 2nd round rookie pick.
late first, early second are relatively close in value... What was available late first this year? Benn wr, Tate wr, McCluster rb/wr, Dwyer rb..... Tebow.. ClausenI'd rather have Jackson then any of those guys right now.
 
Brandon Jackson's trade value, any opinions?I'm thinking a late first + a young prospect player.
I doubt anyone will give up a 1st for him as it seems grant is entrenched as the starter when he returns.This is a good time for jackson to audition for other teams though so of he performs really well he might be worth a 1st later on, but not at the moment.I put his current value at a decent 2nd round rookie pick.
late first, early second are relatively close in value... What was available late first this year? Benn wr, Tate wr, McCluster rb/wr, Dwyer rb..... Tebow.. ClausenI'd rather have Jackson then any of those guys right now.
I don't really disagree with you, i just don't think many will pony up a 1 st to aquire him at this juncture.
 
If Jackson breaks off a great stat line vs the Bills you might see those values. But I don't think anyone would give up a pick in the 10-15 range for him today. And I say that as an 11-time owner of the guy. He still has a lot to prove.

 
how quickly we forget the pack tried to give BJ the job. It was a failed experiment. He had a shot at starting - it just didn't work. I think this is a wolf in sheep's clothes.

 
how quickly we forget the pack tried to give BJ the job. It was a failed experiment. He had a shot at starting - it just didn't work. I think this is a wolf in sheep's clothes.
Cedric Benson was given a crack at starting a few times before getting to start in Cinci.. Sometimes it just takes a couple years to work it out. Not saying he's Ced Benson.. Just saying there is always a chance to do better. He has been given the confidence of his coaching staff, so I guess we'll see what happens.
 
I think the first thing for us to do would be to evaluate what the packers might do....and with my limited knowledge I come up with the following:

1. The Packers go with Jackson as long as possible. With GBs passing game, Jackson's ability (average it may be), and decent defense....they will likely start the season 6-0 or 5-1 before their schedule gets tougher. They have no reason to rush Grant back. Then they face Minnesota, Jets and Dallas before their BYE week. If I am the Packers...barring something unforseen, I would hold him out until week 11, after their BYE. And potentially longer depending on how the season is going.

2. A much more optimistic approach would be to for Grant to sit out 3-4 weeks. At which point he would come back to face....Miami, Minnesota, Jets, Dallas. Which in those matchups alone would make him more of a low end RB2, or maybe RB3 option.

My Summary: He may not be very useful until the last half of the season :cry:

Now not to change the topic of this into an Assistant Coach thing, but....

Our league starts 3 RBs, and you can only roster 4 (Maximum). He was my #2RB behind Chris Johnson, and I got Moreno and Jonathon Stewart as my #3 and #4 RBs. I don't have the roster space to simply add Brandon Jackson. I guess my question becomes, is the temporary benefit of Jackson worth dropping a @4 RB in Stewart??

 
how quickly we forget the pack tried to give BJ the job. It was a failed experiment. He had a shot at starting - it just didn't work. I think this is a wolf in sheep's clothes.
And again...that was in 2007 in Jackson's rookie year.I think he has improved some. Still not great, but come on with the failed experiment thing.
 
Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy said it still wasn't known if RB Ryan Grant (ankle) will need surgery on his injured ankle, reports the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel's Lori Nickel. Green Bay is still waiting for some test results to determine the severity of the injury.

 
Our league starts 3 RBs, and you can only roster 4 (Maximum). He was my #2RB behind Chris Johnson, and I got Moreno and Jonathon Stewart as my #3 and #4 RBs. I don't have the roster space to simply add Brandon Jackson. I guess my question becomes, is the temporary benefit of Jackson worth dropping a @4 RB in Stewart??
If it's a redraft league and you think he'll likely be out until Week 11, you may want to consider dropping Grant. :moneybag:
 
I think the first thing for us to do would be to evaluate what the packers might do....and with my limited knowledge I come up with the following:

1. The Packers go with Jackson as long as possible. With GBs passing game, Jackson's ability (average it may be), and decent defense....they will likely start the season 6-0 or 5-1 before their schedule gets tougher. They have no reason to rush Grant back. Then they face Minnesota, Jets and Dallas before their BYE week. If I am the Packers...barring something unforseen, I would hold him out until week 11, after their BYE. And potentially longer depending on how the season is going.

2. A much more optimistic approach would be to for Grant to sit out 3-4 weeks. At which point he would come back to face....Miami, Minnesota, Jets, Dallas. Which in those matchups alone would make him more of a low end RB2, or maybe RB3 option.

My Summary: He may not be very useful until the last half of the season :goodposting:

Now not to change the topic of this into an Assistant Coach thing, but....

Our league starts 3 RBs, and you can only roster 4 (Maximum). He was my #2RB behind Chris Johnson, and I got Moreno and Jonathon Stewart as my #3 and #4 RBs. I don't have the roster space to simply add Brandon Jackson. I guess my question becomes, is the temporary benefit of Jackson worth dropping a @4 RB in Stewart??
in a league like this its not possible to keep injured players on the bench. hopefully you already dropped grant for jackson.
 
Could use some advice. It's our first year using blind bids for FA's (10 teamer). B. Jackson is on the WW and I've just lost Grant, who was my RB#2 behind CJ. I've got some servicable RB's still on my roster (roster in my sig) but no one I'm comfortable rolling thru the season with. Given that my season is seamingly hanging in the balance, what would you suggest that I bid on Jackson? We use $200 cap and I'm currently at $186. Should I blow $150 or more to insure I get him? No one else in my league has used blind bidding before either - most of the other owners have their full $200 remaining. TIA. Sheesh...and Grant was supposed to be a safe pick... :violin:

ETA: I no longer have Huggins or Maroney. I've got Ricky and Ringer now.

 
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WoW, I drafted Jackson in the 17th round as my 5th RB. The Grant owner gave me crap about drafting him. I told him that I read the coaching staff liked him and was worth a flyer. He is eating a little crow now!

 

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