Greene vs LT (1 Viewer)

[lionsroar]

It seemed that LT Got a lot of work last night. Even got the goal line package work. I watched the game closely to see how the two would be used. Greene started the game but LT came in on the second play. Everyone keeps saying that the Jets are going to run the ball 600 times and there will be plenty of carries to go around. Please tell me that the Jets saw a rb that should only be used as a 3rd down catching back. Wasn't he 8 carries for 17 yards with one 1 catch for 14 yards. My gut is telling me that LT will be a goal line TD vulture this year. Any thoughts?

 

[Birdie048]

I would not use Week 1 as a solid measuring stick..... I want to see Week 2 before I put too much into things.

With that said, LT has never played Pre-season before. He has a chip on his should to prove he still has it. Maybe with all the injuries, they are protecting Greene and evaluating LT a little more allowing him to prove himself too.

If they run 600 times, I can see LT getting 175 carries and being a reasonable TD vulture. His receiving skills in the RZ are hard to beat.

 

[Reaper]

I think the big question people wanted answered about LT was his burst and he showed it on the TD that was called back....

Even PFT, Jet Hater Florio admitted that the stats don't tell the whole story...

My eyes did light up on that 1 run... But, overall nothing has changed for me Fantasy wise. Greene is going to get most of the carries and LT is change of pace / 3rd down.

 

[lionsroar]

I feel like I see more of a burst from LT when he gets around the goal line. That can probably be said for all rb's though. I can just see Rex Ryan feeding LT a bunch of goal line carries this year.

 

[Banger]

I feel like I see more of a burst from LT when he gets around the goal line. That can probably be said for all rb's though. I can just see Rex Ryan feeding LT a bunch of goal line carries this year.

why wouldn't he, he's one of the best GL runners in the history of the NFL. I think LT will be nice value in the mid rounds. He should get some good mop up duty, 3rd down duty, goal line and the odd series here and there. Greene has had issues with injuries and I'd expect that to continue with that running style.

 

[Banger]

I feel like I see more of a burst from LT when he gets around the goal line. That can probably be said for all rb's though. I can just see Rex Ryan feeding LT a bunch of goal line carries this year.

why wouldn't he, he's one of the best GL runners in the history of the NFL. I think LT will be nice value in the mid rounds. He should get some good mop up duty, 3rd down duty, goal line and the odd series here and there. Greene has had issues with injuries and I'd expect that to continue with that running style.

He was at one point, but statistics show he's been one of the worst in the past 3 years or so. Norv Turner just kept feeding him the ball. He had far more carries than anyone else inside the 5 which led to a disproportionate number of rushing TDs.This "seeing more of a burst" is ridiculous. People see what they want to see. Fact is, the guy may be a decent 3rd down back but we won't see him in the game in crucial running situations - such as at the goal line. It makes sense to try him out there in the preseason but Greene was picking up 5 yards at will last night. I really can't see how they would opt for LT over Greene when it matters.Side note: Did anyone notice Shonn Greene catch a pass last night? I was at a bar and couldn't believe my eyes. I thought for sure it had to be someone else but the replay showed #23. I've been expecting about 5 receptions this year, but if he caught a ball in such limited time, we just might see 15-25 receptions from him this year. I may have been selling him short this whole time. But maybe he doesn't catch another one all preseason...

I think you're wrong. We'll see. There will be a lot of carries to go around and Greene and his style will get banged up.

 

[Joe T]

How long is Faneca out for?

That was the biggest news of the night for me. There should be a thread here just for major injuries. Him being out is MAJOR.

 

[LittlePhatty]

They have LT lining up as a receiver quite a bit, don't they? I didn't see the whole game though.

 

[Gopher State]

L.T. looked great last night. The "burst" that everyone said was gone is still their. The Jets are the perfect place for L.T. great 3rd down back, and still has it at the goal line.

Nothing against Greene, he looked great too, but you have to move Greene down a little in FF drafts, based on L.T.'s strong performance. Less TD's for Greene, and I think a greater role then people are thinking for L.T.

I know the Vikings really wanted L.T. but Chilly could not give L.T. the playing time he was looking for.

 

[Reaper]

How long is Faneca out for?That was the biggest news of the night for me. There should be a thread here just for major injuries. Him being out is MAJOR.

MANGOLD is fine and was just held out for precautionary reasons...He would have played a real game.....

 

[Banger]

L.T. looked great last night. The "burst" that everyone said was gone is still their. The Jets are the perfect place for L.T. great 3rd down back, and still has it at the goal line.Nothing against Greene, he looked great too, but you have to move Greene down a little in FF drafts, based on L.T.'s strong performance. Less TD's for Greene, and I think a greater role then people are thinking for L.T. I know the Vikings really wanted L.T. but Chilly could not give L.T. the playing time he was looking for.

T. Jones was the 6th ranked RB last year and had 14 TDs. Greene will undoubtedly get a nice chunk of that, I think LT will get a good piece as well.

 

[lionsroar]

1st and goal at the 1. That's what I want to see. When you think about the rb crop this year, how many rbs can you definitely say get the ball when it's first and goal at the 1? 6 or 7 maybe? I cannot say that Greene is one of those 7.

 

[Routilla]

1st and goal at the 1. That's what I want to see. When you think about the rb crop this year, how many rbs can you definitely say get the ball when it's first and goal at the 1? 6 or 7 maybe? I cannot say that Greene is one of those 7.

A lot of it depends on how they got to the 1.

 

[brednbuddah]

anyone have the targets for keller and LT? It seemed like Sanchez was checking down a lot to these guys.

 

[LittlePhatty]

1st and goal at the 1. That's what I want to see. When you think about the rb crop this year, how many rbs can you definitely say get the ball when it's first and goal at the 1? 6 or 7 maybe? I cannot say that Greene is one of those 7.

Greene is a plow horse if anything. I see both of them getting chances from the 1 yard line. Between the two of them I can see the Jets as possibly having the best Red Zone conversion rate of any team this year.

 

[senyera]

Interesting the perspectives many people have on this. Seems to be very polarized with either Greene a beast and LT irrelevant or Greene will somehow break down and LT will get the important carries. Both of these scenarios seem very unlikely. The Jets should be the #1 rushing team again with ~600 attempts and both will be relevant. Greene at pick ~17 RB9 is just about right and LT at pick ~110 RB40 is great value, especially in PPR. If you draft Greene I would definitely handcuff, it could very well be a situation where you can safely start both some weeks. Greene is young, I doubt the Jets will use him as heavily as they did Jones whom they likely wanted to get the most out of since he is older and was likely leaving. Burst or not the Jets have LT, who looks healthy, so they will use him and, behind the Jets line, he will be decent.

More than enough for both:

Greene 310c 1300yds 12TD, 20rec 100yds 2TD

LT 140c 600yds 7TD, 65rec 450yds 5TD

 

[Joe T]

How long is Faneca out for?That was the biggest news of the night for me. There should be a thread here just for major injuries. Him being out is MAJOR.

MANGOLD is fine and was just held out for precautionary reasons...He would have played a real game.....

Actually, was talking about Alan Faneca.The 9 time pro-bowler was released back in April. Hadn't heard that before.

 

[Ghost Rider]

L.T. looked great last night. The "burst" that everyone said was gone is still their. The Jets are the perfect place for L.T. great 3rd down back, and still has it at the goal line.

Nothing against Greene, he looked great too, but you have to move Greene down a little in FF drafts, based on L.T.'s strong performance. Less TD's for Greene, and I think a greater role then people are thinking for L.T.

8-17-0 is a strong performance? Note that I think Tomlison will be used a lot in short yardage/goal line plays this year, as well as in the passing game.

 

[Empulse]

My question here is what do people think LT's fantasy value is?

Can he be a dependable RB2? The projections have him slated at 10-11 touches per game...

Can he turn those 10-11 touches into 12-15 fantasy points per game? What is a reasonable expectation?

35 yards rushing (8 carries), 40 yards recieving (3 catches), and averaging a half touchdown a game?

These numbers seem reasonable??

Can he be a dependable RB2?

 

[LittlePhatty]

My question here is what do people think LT's fantasy value is?Can he be a dependable RB2? The projections have him slated at 10-11 touches per game...Can he be a dependable RB2?

No way I'd want him as my RB2. He could be a flex slot.

 

[Banger]

My question here is what do people think LT's fantasy value is?Can he be a dependable RB2? The projections have him slated at 10-11 touches per game...Can he be a dependable RB2?

No way I'd want him as my RB2. He could be a flex slot.

agreed. I think he'd be a decent flex with some upside. Could be huge if Greene misses time.

 

[senyera]

My question here is what do people think LT's fantasy value is?Can he be a dependable RB2? The projections have him slated at 10-11 touches per game...Can he turn those 10-11 touches into 12-15 fantasy points per game? What is a reasonable expectation? 35 yards rushing (8 carries), 40 yards recieving (3 catches), and averaging a half touchdown a game?These numbers seem reasonable??Can he be a dependable RB2?

The question is will he be a dependable RB3-4, as that is is where he is being drafted.

 

[gandalas]

Actually, was talking about Alan Faneca.The 9 time pro-bowler was released back in April. Hadn't heard that before.

Well, you should be upgrading Beanie Wells out in Arizona if you like Fanaca that much...that is where he ended up.On the subject of Guards for the Jets - did Ducasse start the game? How did he look in run and pass blocking?

 

[jaylasoul14]

Footballguys ranking of Greene is a joke, ( late 3rd, early 4th ) He will catch at least 20 balls. Also my leagues have 100 yard rushing bonus's. He will rush for 1300 yards without question with an outside shot at 1500 rushing yards. Great D, young qb, equals lots of 4th q carries.

 

[bshell27]

Last night solidified one thing for me, handcuff Greene with LT. I am not usually a fan of handcuffing players, but I would make sure I had L.T. if Green falls to me mid to late 2nd (my gut tells me to stay away late 1st early 2nd round).

 

[Banger]

Footballguys ranking of Greene is a joke, ( late 3rd, early 4th ) He will catch at least 20 balls. Also my leagues have 100 yard rushing bonus's. He will rush for 1300 yards without question with an outside shot at 1500 rushing yards. Great D, young qb, equals lots of 4th q carries.

why will he catch 20 balls? he didn't catch one last year and T. Jones caught 10. He has absolute bricks for hands which is probably one of the main reasons they brought in LT

 

[greggorymac]

Interesting the perspectives many people have on this. Seems to be very polarized with either Greene a beast and LT irrelevant or Greene will somehow break down and LT will get the important carries. Both of these scenarios seem very unlikely. The Jets should be the #1 rushing team again with ~600 attempts and both will be relevant. Greene at pick ~17 RB9 is just about right and LT at pick ~110 RB40 is great value, especially in PPR. If you draft Greene I would definitely handcuff, it could very well be a situation where you can safely start both some weeks. Greene is young, I doubt the Jets will use him as heavily as they did Jones whom they likely wanted to get the most out of since he is older and was likely leaving. Burst or not the Jets have LT, who looks healthy, so they will use him and, behind the Jets line, he will be decent.More than enough for both:Greene 310c 1300yds 12TD, 20rec 100yds 2TDLT 140c 600yds 7TD, 65rec 450yds 5TD

I agree somewhat with your projections. I don't think LT will get that many rushing TDs nor do I believe Rex will have a set goal line back. I think it will be purely situational. If they want to pound it on Goal and 1-2yrds to go, I have to think Greene will be in their. If they want a play that gives them the option of run or pass, LT will be in the game for that package.

 

[jude]

The LT love in here is strange. I watched the game and came away with these impressions:

-Preseason game number 1 and the backup got a few more carries than the starter.

-Tomlinson looked good on one play, that incidentally, didnt mean anything.

-Tomlinson averages 2.1 ypc

-Greene averaged 5.2 ypc

-Greene looked tough and brutal like in the playoffs.

-Greene caught a ball and I think it is a great sign (even if it was ony 1 catch)

Funny that people are gushing over LT being a great backup becuase after last night's game, I feel as confident as EVER that Greene is going to be a beast with Tomlinson spelling him on 3rd down asnd occasionally getting a few TD opportunities.

If anything, I actually see Greene becoming one of the biggest TD scorers in the league this year. He is a bull. No way LT keeps him away from the goal line a majority of the time. Sorry.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

My question here is what do people think LT's fantasy value is?Can he be a dependable RB2? The projections have him slated at 10-11 touches per game...Can he be a dependable RB2?

No way I'd want him as my RB2. He could be a flex slot.

agreed. I think he'd be a decent flex with some upside. Could be huge if Greene misses time.

I have to agree.I own both and my penciled in line-up as of now is Greene in my third RB slot and LT in my flex. (I know who cares) I just hope this tandem pans out. If you draft one, you HAVE to draft the other, IMO. If one goes down you could have mid to late round gold.

 

[Reaper]

The LT love in here is strange. I watched the game and came away with these impressionsreseason game number 1 and the backup got a few more carries than the starter.-Tomlinson looked good on one play, that incidentally, didnt mean anything.-Tomlinson averages 2.1 ypc-Greene averaged 5.2 ypc-Greene looked tough and brutal like in the playoffs.-Greene caught a ball and I think it is a great sign (even if it was ony 1 catch)Funny that people are gushing over LT being a great backup becuase after last night's game, I feel as confident as EVER that Greene is going to be a beast with Tomlinson spelling him on 3rd down asnd occasionally getting a few TD opportunities.

- why do people keep using the word "Gushing" We're talking about potential value of a Fantasy BACKUP RB at RB40-45 in round 9+- He looked pretty good on the reception as well. :gush:

 

[shader]

It seemed that LT Got a lot of work last night. Even got the goal line package work. I watched the game closely to see how the two would be used. Greene started the game but LT came in on the second play. Everyone keeps saying that the Jets are going to run the ball 600 times and there will be plenty of carries to go around. Please tell me that the Jets saw a rb that should only be used as a 3rd down catching back. Wasn't he 8 carries for 17 yards with one 1 catch for 14 yards. My gut is telling me that LT will be a goal line TD vulture this year. Any thoughts?

First of all, remember that this is pre-season. I think that Shonn Greene had a couple really good runs, got the number of carries they wanted him to get and was taken out of the game. Now there is no doubt that LT is going to get carries this year. In fact, I think that he will be a big part of the gameplan early in the season. I just have a feeling that after the 8-10 games and the grind of the season wears on, LT will start to wear down and Greene will really start hitting his stride towards fantasy playoff time.Greene looked fantastic last night to me. Honestly, LT looked pretty quick too. A pretty good one-two punch. Yeah, LT will probably take a few TD's from Greene, but LT is old and aging, and isn't going to turn young overnight. His newfound energy will fade away.

 

[Multiple Scores]

LT had two nice plays last night. He had eight that were bad. He averaged 2 ypc, Greene averaged 5 ypc. I am not a believer in LT and think he has eroding skills that will erode more each touch of the season. I want no part of LT and am buying Greene at every chance. 2 ypc and so many Impressed, I think he is getting so much love because he is one of the best in history.

 

[shader]

The LT love in here is strange. I watched the game and came away with these impressionsreseason game number 1 and the backup got a few more carries than the starter.-Tomlinson looked good on one play, that incidentally, didnt mean anything.-Tomlinson averages 2.1 ypc-Greene averaged 5.2 ypc-Greene looked tough and brutal like in the playoffs.-Greene caught a ball and I think it is a great sign (even if it was ony 1 catch)Funny that people are gushing over LT being a great backup becuase after last night's game, I feel as confident as EVER that Greene is going to be a beast with Tomlinson spelling him on 3rd down asnd occasionally getting a few TD opportunities.If anything, I actually see Greene becoming one of the biggest TD scorers in the league this year. He is a bull. No way LT keeps him away from the goal line a majority of the time. Sorry.

 

[Banger]

The LT love in here is strange. I watched the game and came away with these impressionsreseason game number 1 and the backup got a few more carries than the starter.-Tomlinson looked good on one play, that incidentally, didnt mean anything.-Tomlinson averages 2.1 ypc-Greene averaged 5.2 ypc-Greene looked tough and brutal like in the playoffs.-Greene caught a ball and I think it is a great sign (even if it was ony 1 catch)Funny that people are gushing over LT being a great backup becuase after last night's game, I feel as confident as EVER that Greene is going to be a beast with Tomlinson spelling him on 3rd down asnd occasionally getting a few TD opportunities.If anything, I actually see Greene becoming one of the biggest TD scorers in the league this year. He is a bull. No way LT keeps him away from the goal line a majority of the time. Sorry.

I really don't see any outrageous predictions going on. I'm seeing mostly, good flex option, 3rd down back, maybe goal line/redzone back. Greene is a better back at this point and there's no debating that and I don't see anyone attempting to. With this line and defense the RBs will be getting a ton of touches and they aren't all going to go Greene's way.

 

[Mario Kart]

It seemed that LT Got a lot of work last night. Even got the goal line package work. I watched the game closely to see how the two would be used. Greene started the game but LT came in on the second play. Everyone keeps saying that the Jets are going to run the ball 600 times and there will be plenty of carries to go around. Please tell me that the Jets saw a rb that should only be used as a 3rd down catching back. Wasn't he 8 carries for 17 yards with one 1 catch for 14 yards. My gut is telling me that LT will be a goal line TD vulture this year. Any thoughts?

I say taking LT in the 10th this year over Greene in the 2nd is the real shark move here. LT is going to revitalize his career in New York and last nights game showed exactly how. LT is the real starter here and could easily go for 1700+.

 

[Banger]

LT had two nice plays last night. He had eight that were bad. He averaged 2 ypc, Greene averaged 5 ypc. I am not a believer in LT and think he has eroding skills that will erode more each touch of the season. I want no part of LT and am buying Greene at every chance. 2 ypc and so many Impressed, I think he is getting so much love because he is one of the best in history.

you stat monkeys with your YPC after a qtr and a half of a preseason game are a little nuts. Last year in game 1 of the preseason T. Jones went 9-13 for a 1.44 ypc. what did it mean? absolutely nothing for the back that finished 6th overall and ran for 4.2 ypc.

 

[-jb-]

It seemed that LT Got a lot of work last night. Even got the goal line package work. I watched the game closely to see how the two would be used. Greene started the game but LT came in on the second play. Everyone keeps saying that the Jets are going to run the ball 600 times and there will be plenty of carries to go around. Please tell me that the Jets saw a rb that should only be used as a 3rd down catching back. Wasn't he 8 carries for 17 yards with one 1 catch for 14 yards. My gut is telling me that LT will be a goal line TD vulture this year. Any thoughts?

I say taking LT in the 10th this year over Greene in the 2nd is the real shark move here. LT is going to revitalize his career in New York and last nights game showed exactly how. LT is the real starter here and could easily go for 1700+.

 

[nysportsfan]

Actually, was talking about Alan Faneca.The 9 time pro-bowler was released back in April. Hadn't heard that before.

Well, you should be upgrading Beanie Wells out in Arizona if you like Fanaca that much...that is where he ended up.On the subject of Guards for the Jets - did Ducasse start the game? How did he look in run and pass blocking?

Ducasse did not start for the Jets, Matt Slauson played with the first team. I've been reading that this is a good battle in camp, with Slauson in the lead by a little bit. Anyone hear anything different?

 

[LittlePhatty]

LT is the real starter here and could easily go for 1700+.

If he gets 850 carries.

 

[senyera]

Do people think Greene is going to have 25+ attempts per game when the team wants to keep him fresh for a deep playoff run? Last season they ran ~38 times per game. That may drop a bit this season but LT will still get ~10 carries and 5-6 targets.

No one is saying LT is going to take the starting role and perform as an RB1. He is being drafted as an RB3-4 in round 10+ which is great value with huge upside. Ridiculous that Greene owners would think it is a bad move to take LT also.

 

[Multiple Scores]

LT had two nice plays last night. He had eight that were bad. He averaged 2 ypc, Greene averaged 5 ypc. I am not a believer in LT and think he has eroding skills that will erode more each touch of the season. I want no part of LT and am buying Greene at every chance. 2 ypc and so many Impressed, I think he is getting so much love because he is one of the best in history.

you stat monkeys with your YPC after a qtr and a half of a preseason game are a little nuts. Last year in game 1 of the preseason T. Jones went 9-13 for a 1.44 ypc. what did it mean? absolutely nothing for the back that finished 6th overall and ran for 4.2 ypc.

You call me a stat monkey and then you jump all over the stats using Jones as an example. My view on LT was even stated minus the stats in the post above. A few things, I think Jones is still a good RB who showed his age at the end of last season, I think LT was one of the greatest ever who has showed his age for 2 full seasons. I've stated before that I think LTs legs are SHOT. I don't like LT because I watch him play way too much and it is so clear that he has not only lost a step but went the way of Shaun Alexander and hit 30 years old and fell off the cliff as a RB. I don't expect anything from LT this year or ever again, his days are over and he is getting older every day and it has shown for a couple years now. I've said before that I think LT will get some touches early on this year and that Greene will outproduce him by a full 2 yards/per carry and Rex Ryan will pull the plug on LT, Rex wants to win a Super Bowl, I really don't think he's going to keep playing LT when in the end he hurts the team, stalls drives and the Jets keep punting while he is in the game. When Greene sets up Sanchez with 3rd and 2's he will operate much better than 3rd and 12 thanks to LT hitting a wall on 1st and 2nd downs, 3rd and 12 + Sanchez = Picks. Once we hit halfway through the season I would be shocked, literally go into shock if LT is getting upwards of 5 touches per game.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Do people think Greene is going to have 25+ attempts per game when the team wants to keep him fresh for a deep playoff run? Last season they ran ~38 times per game. That may drop a bit this season but LT will still get ~10 carries and 5-6 targets. No one is saying LT is going to take the starting role and perform as an RB1. He is being drafted as an RB3-4 in round 10+ which is great value with huge upside. Ridiculous that Greene owners would think it is a bad move to take LT also.

What I find ridiculous is that the LT people think LT is going to get 10 carries and 5-6 targets, they must not have noticed that LT is bad, very very bad and getting older every day. If the Jets want to Punt and put Sanchez in Interception hot zones all year then LT is your man.

 

[Banger]

Do people think Greene is going to have 25+ attempts per game when the team wants to keep him fresh for a deep playoff run? Last season they ran ~38 times per game. That may drop a bit this season but LT will still get ~10 carries and 5-6 targets. No one is saying LT is going to take the starting role and perform as an RB1. He is being drafted as an RB3-4 in round 10+ which is great value with huge upside. Ridiculous that Greene owners would think it is a bad move to take LT also.

What I find ridiculous is that the LT people think LT is going to get 10 carries and 5-6 targets, they must not have noticed that LT is bad, very very bad and getting older every day. If the Jets want to Punt and put Sanchez in Interception hot zones all year then LT is your man.

then why did the Jets cut Jones and sign LT? I think they will use LT / Greene this year like they wanted to use Washington / Jones last year.

 

[senyera]

Do people think Greene is going to have 25+ attempts per game when the team wants to keep him fresh for a deep playoff run? Last season they ran ~38 times per game. That may drop a bit this season but LT will still get ~10 carries and 5-6 targets. No one is saying LT is going to take the starting role and perform as an RB1. He is being drafted as an RB3-4 in round 10+ which is great value with huge upside. Ridiculous that Greene owners would think it is a bad move to take LT also.

What I find ridiculous is that the LT people think LT is going to get 10 carries and 5-6 targets, they must not have noticed that LT is bad, very very bad and getting older every day. If the Jets want to Punt and put Sanchez in Interception hot zones all year then LT is your man.

So then either Greene will rush 35 times per game, the Jets will only rush 25 times per game, or...?I am not an LT person. He has declined from his previous level but he is the #2 RB on the #1 rushing team, he will be given chances. The Jets also must not have noticed that LT is bad, very very bad, because they decided that he has some value and they are well qualified to determine that. They did not sign him to sell jerseys.The two likeliest scenarios are:1) He does fairly well as a backup and outperforms his ADP in FF2) He continues to break down and the Jets give someone else the touchesEither scenario is 50/50. I will take the chance with LT over a guy like Donald Brown or Hardesty, especially if Greene is my RB1.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Do people think Greene is going to have 25+ attempts per game when the team wants to keep him fresh for a deep playoff run? Last season they ran ~38 times per game. That may drop a bit this season but LT will still get ~10 carries and 5-6 targets. No one is saying LT is going to take the starting role and perform as an RB1. He is being drafted as an RB3-4 in round 10+ which is great value with huge upside. Ridiculous that Greene owners would think it is a bad move to take LT also.

What I find ridiculous is that the LT people think LT is going to get 10 carries and 5-6 targets, they must not have noticed that LT is bad, very very bad and getting older every day. If the Jets want to Punt and put Sanchez in Interception hot zones all year then LT is your man.

then why did the Jets cut Jones and sign LT? I think they will use LT / Greene this year like they wanted to use Washington / Jones last year.

Ask Rex Ryan, maybe he knows? It might have had to do with Jones wanting a large contract, not sure.

 

[Gopher State]

Footballguys ranking of Greene is a joke, ( late 3rd, early 4th ) He will catch at least 20 balls. Also my leagues have 100 yard rushing bonus's. He will rush for 1300 yards without question with an outside shot at 1500 rushing yards. Great D, young qb, equals lots of 4th q carries.

The joke is that some people think Greene will catch 20 balls. He has hands of brick. Plus the Jets are going to limit Greene to about 20 touches a game to not break him down. He may rush for 1100 yards, but thats the ceiling. I see some blow out games for the Jets, and Greene will be on the bench in the 4th quarter more then people will like.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Footballguys ranking of Greene is a joke, ( late 3rd, early 4th ) He will catch at least 20 balls. Also my leagues have 100 yard rushing bonus's. He will rush for 1300 yards without question with an outside shot at 1500 rushing yards. Great D, young qb, equals lots of 4th q carries.

The joke is that some people think Greene will catch 20 balls. He has hands of brick. Plus the Jets are going to limit Greene to about 20 touches a game to not break him down. He may rush for 1100 yards, but thats the ceiling. I see some blow out games for the Jets, and Greene will be on the bench in the 4th quarter more then people will like.

1100 yards as his ceiling is the only joke I see here.

 

[senyera]

Footballguys ranking of Greene is a joke, ( late 3rd, early 4th ) He will catch at least 20 balls. Also my leagues have 100 yard rushing bonus's. He will rush for 1300 yards without question with an outside shot at 1500 rushing yards. Great D, young qb, equals lots of 4th q carries.

The joke is that some people think Greene will catch 20 balls. He has hands of brick. Plus the Jets are going to limit Greene to about 20 touches a game to not break him down. He may rush for 1100 yards, but thats the ceiling. I see some blow out games for the Jets, and Greene will be on the bench in the 4th quarter more then people will like.

1100 yards as his ceiling is the only joke I see here.

Why did the Jets, a professional football organization who want to have a strong running game, sign LT? Also, how many carries per game do you think Greene will get?

 

[Multiple Scores]

Footballguys ranking of Greene is a joke, ( late 3rd, early 4th ) He will catch at least 20 balls. Also my leagues have 100 yard rushing bonus's. He will rush for 1300 yards without question with an outside shot at 1500 rushing yards. Great D, young qb, equals lots of 4th q carries.

The joke is that some people think Greene will catch 20 balls. He has hands of brick. Plus the Jets are going to limit Greene to about 20 touches a game to not break him down. He may rush for 1100 yards, but thats the ceiling. I see some blow out games for the Jets, and Greene will be on the bench in the 4th quarter more then people will like.

1100 yards as his ceiling is the only joke I see here.

Why did the Jets, a professional football organization who want to have a strong running game, sign LT? Also, how many carries per game do you think Greene will get?

They needed a backup and he can be the veteran for Greene to learn from. Greene will get as many touches as he needs for the jets to win football games.

 

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Do people think Greene is going to have 25+ attempts per game when the team wants to keep him fresh for a deep playoff run? Last season they ran ~38 times per game. That may drop a bit this season but LT will still get ~10 carries and 5-6 targets. No one is saying LT is going to take the starting role and perform as an RB1. He is being drafted as an RB3-4 in round 10+ which is great value with huge upside. Ridiculous that Greene owners would think it is a bad move to take LT also.

What I find ridiculous is that the LT people think LT is going to get 10 carries and 5-6 targets, they must not have noticed that LT is bad, very very bad and getting older every day. If the Jets want to Punt and put Sanchez in Interception hot zones all year then LT is your man.

then why did the Jets cut Jones and sign LT? I think they will use LT / Greene this year like they wanted to use Washington / Jones last year.

Ask Rex Ryan, maybe he knows? It might have had to do with Jones wanting a large contract, not sure.

I'm sure he knows but they could have signed someone else if he is that awful, no? LT wasn't the only RB available in FA and they could have traded for a back like they traded for Cromartie among others. Maybe they see something you don't.