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Titans back wants 'Rookie of Year'

Titans' top pick wants to make run at award like Vikings' Peterson did

By JIM WYATT • Staff Writer • August 14, 2008

Titans running back Chris Johnson has set the bar high for his first NFL season.

"My main goal is to win rookie of the year,'' Johnson said Wednesday. "I want to come in and do the same thing Adrian Peterson came in and did last year. I think that is possible.''

Peterson was NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year last season after rushing for 1,341 yards and 12 touchdowns for the Vikings. He was also the Pro Bowl MVP.

It's a tough act to follow, but Johnson thinks he's up for it. The 24th overall pick of this year's draft made a big splash in the preseason opener last Saturday with an electrifying, 66-yard touchdown run against the Rams.

He's expected to see even more action, and return kicks for the first time as a pro, against the Raiders at LP Field on Friday night. On the opposite sideline for the nationally televised game will be Darren McFadden, the first running back drafted this year.

"It motivates me because every time we are on TV and every time we play a game it is campaigning for the rookie of the year, and he'll be one of the competitors trying to get rookie of the year,'' Johnson said of McFadden, who he called a friend.

"But I feel like if I do what I have to do to help this team succeed, then the rookie of the year should come, and everything else should fall into place for us as a team.''

Titans center Kevin Mawae said he likes Johnson's attitude on the field and applauded his high expectations. He'd also love to block for another award winner — Titans quarterback Vince Young was NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year in 2006.

"It would be pretty cool to have the rookie of the year twice in my career. Twice in three years, that wouldn't be a bad deal,'' Mawae said.

"But I think any time you come into the NFL you have to set goals that nobody expects you to reach and I think that is how you become a great player.

"If that's his attitude then that makes us that much better. You can't come in as a first-rounder and be like, 'I just want to get my playing time.' If he had that attitude I'd be concerned.''

Johnson, who racked up 6,993 all-purpose yards at East Carolina, was the fifth running back drafted. He's expected to split carries with third-year pro LenDale White, but could earn significant playing time, and perhaps even emerge as the starter, if he's effective early in the season.

All about effort

Hall of Fame running back Earl Campbell holds the Oilers/Titans franchise record for the most rushing yards by a rookie, with 1,450 in 1978.

Johnson said he doesn't have certain benchmarks in mind as far as rushing yards, receiving yards and return yards go, that those will depend on how much he plays.

What he can control is the effort he gives on Sundays, and he hopes to be the best back every week, no matter whom else is on the field.

"Whether we are going against LaDainian Tomlinson, Adrian Peterson, or Brian Westbrook, I want to be the best back on the field.''

 
Lendale may not be the greatest talent, but he did get 300+ carries last year. How is this guy going to keep Lendale off the field?

 
Lendale may not be the greatest talent, but he did get 300+ carries last year. How is this guy going to keep Lendale off the field?
I look at this the exact opposite way.. their are a ton of carries to be had in this offense, and Chris Johnson has a chance to get his fair share of the pie. Its not like they want VY throwing it too much.
 
Lendale may not be the greatest talent, but he did get 300+ carries last year. How is this guy going to keep Lendale off the field?
Joey Harrington and Chris Redman may not be the greatest talent, but they did get 500 passing attempts last year. How is Matt Ryan going to keep them off the field?
 
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Lendale may not be the greatest talent, but he did get 300+ carries last year. How is this guy going to keep Lendale off the field?
Joey Harrington and Chris Redman may not be the greatest talent, but they did get 500 passing attempts last year. How is Matt Ryan going to keep them off the field?
Awful comparison.
Why? I think you are missing the point. White got that many carries because he was the best option at the time. He is no longer the best option, same as Harrington/Ryan.
 
Good for him. I have no problem at all with these guys who are supposed to be competitive setting goals for themselves. Thats exactly what they should be doing and every rookie should be hoping to make an impact worthy of ROY.

 
Lendale may not be the greatest talent, but he did get 300+ carries last year. How is this guy going to keep Lendale off the field?
Joey Harrington and Chris Redman may not be the greatest talent, but they did get 500 passing attempts last year. How is Matt Ryan going to keep them off the field?
Awful comparison.
Why? I think you are missing the point. White got that many carries because he was the best option at the time. He is no longer the best option, same as Harrington/Ryan.
Comparing journeymen QB's that have already failed in multiple locations and backups that are being replaced by a team that is starting over and rebuilding is a pretty poor example to me. Some other RB comparison would have been much more apt, like say Henry/McGahee.Everything Tennessee has stated is that Chris Johnson is to be a compliment to White, another weapon on the field, a back with completely complimentary skills to the grinder that Lendale is. Not an outright replacement like Matt Ryan will eventually be. Plenty of Chris Johnson hypers hope he will be that, but Tennesee has seemed very much a RBBC type offense the last few years and IMHO looks to continue that way.Edit: I'm envisioning a Rudi Johnson / Chris Perry type RBBC circa 2005. Which might actually make them both relevant fantasy producers.
 
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Umm, according to the Tennesseean, it could be more than that:

Chris Johnson-RB- Titans Aug. 14 - 12:02 pm et

The Nashville Tennessean writes that Chris Johnson could "perhaps" overtake White as the Titans starter if he plays well early in the regular season.

The note is somewhat buried in a feature on Johnson, but it's clear that the rookie's role is growing by the week. With a strong offensive line and plenty of carries to go around, we see both Titans backs as undervalued. Johnson's role is looking more like a Maurice Jones-Drew role than a third-down back, which makes him a rising RB3 pick.

Source: Nashville Tennessean

 
Lendale may not be the greatest talent, but he did get 300+ carries last year. How is this guy going to keep Lendale off the field?
Joey Harrington and Chris Redman may not be the greatest talent, but they did get 500 passing attempts last year. How is Matt Ryan going to keep them off the field?
Awful comparison.
Why? I think you are missing the point. White got that many carries because he was the best option at the time. He is no longer the best option, same as Harrington/Ryan.
Comparing journeymen QB's that have already failed in multiple locations and backups that are being replaced by a team that is starting over and rebuilding is a pretty poor example to me. Some other RB comparison would have been much more apt, like say Henry/McGahee.Everything Tennessee has stated is that Chris Johnson is to be a compliment to White, another weapon on the field, a back with completely complimentary skills to the grinder that Lendale is. Not an outright replacement like Matt Ryan will eventually be. Plenty of Chris Johnson hypers hope he will be that, but Tennesee has seemed very much a RBBC type offense the last few years and IMHO looks to continue that way.Edit: I'm envisioning a Rudi Johnson / Chris Perry type RBBC circa 2005. Which might actually make them both relevant fantasy producers.
You are way over-analysing my answer. The original poster seemed to be asking how a guy who had so many carries would lose carries. The answer is talent level - the same reason why Redman and Harrington will lose pass attempts to Ryan, and that's all the comparison was. I'm not comparing situations - like most people, I think Johnson will be a complementary back rather than a load-carrier, at least his first year and maybe long-term - but his lack of carries will be as a result of the type of back Johnson is, rather than because White got 300 carries last year and therefore can't be usurped in any way from his position as feature back. But I doubt if we'll see a situation like that in Atlanta, where Norwood has kept racking up enormous YPC/DVOA figures without actually getting an increase carries. If Johnson lives up to his billing, he won't be getting five carries a game.
 
Good for him. I have no problem at all with these guys who are supposed to be competitive setting goals for themselves. Thats exactly what they should be doing and every rookie should be hoping to make an impact worthy of ROY.
:wall: but I'd sure like to see a guy say, "My goal is to finish fifth in the ROY voting."
 
Umm, according to the Tennesseean, it could be more than that:

Chris Johnson-RB- Titans Aug. 14 - 12:02 pm et

The Nashville Tennessean writes that Chris Johnson could "perhaps" overtake White as the Titans starter if he plays well early in the regular season.

The note is somewhat buried in a feature on Johnson, but it's clear that the rookie's role is growing by the week. With a strong offensive line and plenty of carries to go around, we see both Titans backs as undervalued. Johnson's role is looking more like a Maurice Jones-Drew role than a third-down back, which makes him a rising RB3 pick.

Source: Nashville Tennessean
Umm... lots of speculation and not much more than further confirmation that the Chris Johnson hypers should really temper their expectations and not be surprised if a RBBC takes hold. I'm not a believer in the myth that the league is becoming more RBBC as a whole, but I do believe that Tenn is one of the few teams that wants to run their offense that way.
 
Lendale may not be the greatest talent, but he did get 300+ carries last year. How is this guy going to keep Lendale off the field?
Joey Harrington and Chris Redman may not be the greatest talent, but they did get 500 passing attempts last year. How is Matt Ryan going to keep them off the field?
Awful comparison.
Why? I think you are missing the point. White got that many carries because he was the best option at the time. He is no longer the best option, same as Harrington/Ryan.
Comparing journeymen QB's that have already failed in multiple locations and backups that are being replaced by a team that is starting over and rebuilding is a pretty poor example to me. Some other RB comparison would have been much more apt, like say Henry/McGahee.Everything Tennessee has stated is that Chris Johnson is to be a compliment to White, another weapon on the field, a back with completely complimentary skills to the grinder that Lendale is. Not an outright replacement like Matt Ryan will eventually be. Plenty of Chris Johnson hypers hope he will be that, but Tennesee has seemed very much a RBBC type offense the last few years and IMHO looks to continue that way.Edit: I'm envisioning a Rudi Johnson / Chris Perry type RBBC circa 2005. Which might actually make them both relevant fantasy producers.
You are way over-analysing my answer. The original poster seemed to be asking how a guy who had so many carries would lose carries. The answer is talent level - the same reason why Redman and Harrington will lose pass attempts to Ryan, and that's all the comparison was. I'm not comparing situations - like most people, I think Johnson will be a complementary back rather than a load-carrier, at least his first year and maybe long-term - but his lack of carries will be as a result of the type of back Johnson is, rather than because White got 300 carries last year and therefore can't be usurped in any way from his position as feature back. But I doubt if we'll see a situation like that in Atlanta, where Norwood has kept racking up enormous YPC/DVOA figures without actually getting an increase carries. If Johnson lives up to his billing, he won't be getting five carries a game.
Perhaps you oversimplified his original question? :goodposting:
 
Lendale may not be the greatest talent, but he did get 300+ carries last year. How is this guy going to keep Lendale off the field?
Joey Harrington and Chris Redman may not be the greatest talent, but they did get 500 passing attempts last year. How is Matt Ryan going to keep them off the field?
Awful comparison.
Why? I think you are missing the point. White got that many carries because he was the best option at the time. He is no longer the best option, same as Harrington/Ryan.
He is no longer the best option?Link?So you think Johnson is a better in between the tackles runner? Is ready to carry the load in the NFL? Take the beating? Not fumble? And not lose yards?
 
Lendale may not be the greatest talent, but he did get 300+ carries last year. How is this guy going to keep Lendale off the field?
Joey Harrington and Chris Redman may not be the greatest talent, but they did get 500 passing attempts last year. How is Matt Ryan going to keep them off the field?
Awful comparison.
Why? I think you are missing the point. White got that many carries because he was the best option at the time. He is no longer the best option, same as Harrington/Ryan.
White is no longer the best option because the other guy ran well on the Rams? Newsflash. Everyone runs well against the Rams. Saying that the Rams gave up a big running play to a RB is like saying that water is wet. So saying that the guy is a better option right now is a bit early, don't you think?
 
As a Chris johnson owner, the last thing I'm worried about is Lendale White. No doubt White will get his touches early on, but I believe CJ will relegate him to a backup in fairly short order (4-6 weeks into the season). As far as the original topic, so what? He wants to win ROY. He just might do it.

 
As a Chris johnson owner, the last thing I'm worried about is Lendale White. No doubt White will get his touches early on, but I believe CJ will relegate him to a backup in fairly short order (4-6 weeks into the season). As far as the original topic, so what? He wants to win ROY. He just might do it.
I'm not at all worried about that. I just think there is an established guy in front of him that can be effective if used properly. I think best case for CJ is a Thunder and Lightning sort of system. That's not going to lead to ROY
 
As a Chris johnson owner, the last thing I'm worried about is Lendale White. No doubt White will get his touches early on, but I believe CJ will relegate him to a backup in fairly short order (4-6 weeks into the season). As far as the original topic, so what? He wants to win ROY. He just might do it.
Why do you think that?Just curious.The guy is fast...no doubt...but he has a long way to go before being a feature back for the Tennessee Titans people.Like proving he can pick up the blitz, run effectively between the tackles, not fumble, stay healthy, not lose yards, and keep the chains constantly moving to eat clock.
 
Lendale may not be the greatest talent, but he did get 300+ carries last year. How is this guy going to keep Lendale off the field?
Joey Harrington and Chris Redman may not be the greatest talent, but they did get 500 passing attempts last year. How is Matt Ryan going to keep them off the field?
Awful comparison.
Why? I think you are missing the point. White got that many carries because he was the best option at the time. He is no longer the best option, same as Harrington/Ryan.
White is no longer the best option because the other guy ran well on the Rams? Newsflash. Everyone runs well against the Rams. Saying that the Rams gave up a big running play to a RB is like saying that water is wet. So saying that the guy is a better option right now is a bit early, don't you think?
White only averaged 5.5YPC. That suxor. :rolleyes: 3714720versus33-16066One RB is very explosive, whereas the other is going to get you consistent yardage. Coaches play guys that get them consistent yardage, and spell them with guys that are explosive. There's no way Johnson gets more carries than White this season.
 
As a Chris johnson owner, the last thing I'm worried about is Lendale White. No doubt White will get his touches early on, but I believe CJ will relegate him to a backup in fairly short order (4-6 weeks into the season). As far as the original topic, so what? He wants to win ROY. He just might do it.
Why do you think that?Just curious.The guy is fast...no doubt...but he has a long way to go before being a feature back for the Tennessee Titans people.Like proving he can pick up the blitz, run effectively between the tackles, not fumble, stay healthy, not lose yards, and keep the chains constantly moving to eat clock.
Why do I think Johnson will be the eventual feature back? He's simply got the ability to do it. That, & White isn't talented enough to force a Thunder & Lightning combo (although, initially, White will get his touches). I expect CJ to relegate White to backup status by week 6. CJ will also have considerably more touches than White this season (barring injury, of course).
 
As a Chris johnson owner, the last thing I'm worried about is Lendale White. No doubt White will get his touches early on, but I believe CJ will relegate him to a backup in fairly short order (4-6 weeks into the season). As far as the original topic, so what? He wants to win ROY. He just might do it.
Why do you think that?Just curious.The guy is fast...no doubt...but he has a long way to go before being a feature back for the Tennessee Titans people.Like proving he can pick up the blitz, run effectively between the tackles, not fumble, stay healthy, not lose yards, and keep the chains constantly moving to eat clock.
Why do I think Johnson will be the eventual feature back? He's simply got the ability to do it. That, & White isn't talented enough to force a Thunder & Lightning combo (although, initially, White will get his touches). I expect CJ to relegate White to backup status by week 6. CJ will also have considerably more touches than White this season (barring injury, of course).
In 4-6 weeks moreso than thinking he may end up that far.I think White has shown he is talented enough. He showed it at USC, and so far has been a pretty productive consistent NFL RB.IMO, there is no way he has more touches than White this year.150 carries and 50 receptions max.
 
Can we PLEASE not mention this kid again for the next three weeks?

And while we're at it, delete all existing threads which mention his name?

 
Lendale may not be the greatest talent, but he did get 300+ carries last year. How is this guy going to keep Lendale off the field?
Joey Harrington and Chris Redman may not be the greatest talent, but they did get 500 passing attempts last year. How is Matt Ryan going to keep them off the field?
Awful comparison.
Why? I think you are missing the point. White got that many carries because he was the best option at the time. He is no longer the best option, same as Harrington/Ryan.
White is no longer the best option because the other guy ran well on the Rams? Newsflash. Everyone runs well against the Rams. Saying that the Rams gave up a big running play to a RB is like saying that water is wet. So saying that the guy is a better option right now is a bit early, don't you think?
White only averaged 5.5YPC. That suxor. :mellow: 3714720versus33-16066One RB is very explosive, whereas the other is going to get you consistent yardage. Coaches play guys that get them consistent yardage, and spell them with guys that are explosive. There's no way Johnson gets more carries than White this season.
And in the other CJ thread you're trying to say you're not using statistics in preseason games to draw distinctions between RBs. Only how they run. :rolleyes:
 
Lendale may not be the greatest talent, but he did get 300+ carries last year. How is this guy going to keep Lendale off the field?
Joey Harrington and Chris Redman may not be the greatest talent, but they did get 500 passing attempts last year. How is Matt Ryan going to keep them off the field?
Awful comparison.
Why? I think you are missing the point. White got that many carries because he was the best option at the time. He is no longer the best option, same as Harrington/Ryan.
White is no longer the best option because the other guy ran well on the Rams? Newsflash. Everyone runs well against the Rams. Saying that the Rams gave up a big running play to a RB is like saying that water is wet. So saying that the guy is a better option right now is a bit early, don't you think?
White only averaged 5.5YPC. That suxor. ;) 3714720versus33-16066One RB is very explosive, whereas the other is going to get you consistent yardage. Coaches play guys that get them consistent yardage, and spell them with guys that are explosive. There's no way Johnson gets more carries than White this season.
And in the other CJ thread you're trying to say you're not using statistics in preseason games to draw distinctions between RBs. Only how they run. :rolleyes:
:rolleyes: Right back at ya... The point made that White is a consistent grind it out RB, and Johnson is a COP home run hitter, has NOTHING to do with the statistics from the preseason game, and that's not why they were used.The point of the statistics was to show that White doesn't suck. Try reading the line above the stats. :rolleyes:
 
You gotta love his enthusiasm. Every rookie should think that way unless they're simply arrogant by nature. I happen to like this situation and could care less about predicting who will be the starter. The situation in Tennessee lends itself to a RBBC in which two guys can both have decent numbers at the end of the year. They will almost certainly be one of the better defenses again. They are not going to be one of the top passing teams in the league. They will do what they do best which is keep games close and try to control the clock. Last year White faired well by default. This year Fisher has an extra weapon to use, and I think he will get Johnson on the field as mush as he can. Let's say he gets used like an Eric Metcalf or RBush in his rookie year. Johnson can still produce nice numbers under those circumstances.

Regardless I know both backs will represent good value in my leagues.

 
switz said:
Lendale may not be the greatest talent, but he did get 300+ carries last year. How is this guy going to keep Lendale off the field?
Joey Harrington and Chris Redman may not be the greatest talent, but they did get 500 passing attempts last year. How is Matt Ryan going to keep them off the field?
Awful comparison.
Why? I think you are missing the point. White got that many carries because he was the best option at the time. He is no longer the best option, same as Harrington/Ryan.
White is no longer the best option because the other guy ran well on the Rams? Newsflash. Everyone runs well against the Rams. Saying that the Rams gave up a big running play to a RB is like saying that water is wet. So saying that the guy is a better option right now is a bit early, don't you think?
White only averaged 5.5YPC. That suxor. ;) 3

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One RB is very explosive, whereas the other is going to get you consistent yardage. Coaches play guys that get them consistent yardage, and spell them with guys that are explosive. There's no way Johnson gets more carries than White this season.
And in the other CJ thread you're trying to say you're not using statistics in preseason games to draw distinctions between RBs. Only how they run. :lmao:
:rolleyes: Right back at ya... The point made that White is a consistent grind it out RB, and Johnson is a COP home run hitter, has NOTHING to do with the statistics from the preseason game, and that's not why they were used.The point of the statistics was to show that White doesn't suck. Try reading the line above the stats. :rolleyes:
Im thinking the other way around. White will be the change of pace guy by week 3, if not to start the season. It seems people often refer to the smaller guy as the COP. I think this situation more resembles the Barber/Jacobs situation from two years ago. Westbrook/Buckhalter, Dunn/Duckett also make decent examples.
 
switz said:
Lendale may not be the greatest talent, but he did get 300+ carries last year. How is this guy going to keep Lendale off the field?
Joey Harrington and Chris Redman may not be the greatest talent, but they did get 500 passing attempts last year. How is Matt Ryan going to keep them off the field?
Awful comparison.
Why? I think you are missing the point. White got that many carries because he was the best option at the time. He is no longer the best option, same as Harrington/Ryan.
White is no longer the best option because the other guy ran well on the Rams? Newsflash. Everyone runs well against the Rams. Saying that the Rams gave up a big running play to a RB is like saying that water is wet. So saying that the guy is a better option right now is a bit early, don't you think?
White only averaged 5.5YPC. That suxor. :confused: 3

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One RB is very explosive, whereas the other is going to get you consistent yardage. Coaches play guys that get them consistent yardage, and spell them with guys that are explosive. There's no way Johnson gets more carries than White this season.
And in the other CJ thread you're trying to say you're not using statistics in preseason games to draw distinctions between RBs. Only how they run. :rolleyes:
:rolleyes: Right back at ya... The point made that White is a consistent grind it out RB, and Johnson is a COP home run hitter, has NOTHING to do with the statistics from the preseason game, and that's not why they were used.The point of the statistics was to show that White doesn't suck. Try reading the line above the stats. :rolleyes:
Im thinking the other way around. White will be the change of pace guy by week 3, if not to start the season. It seems people often refer to the smaller guy as the COP. I think this situation more resembles the Barber/Jacobs situation from two years ago. Westbrook/Buckhalter, Dunn/Duckett also make decent examples.
Week 3 now. Do none of you ever watch what Jeff Fisher does and how he coaches?
 
BTW, this doesn't really have anything to do with Chris Johnson, but I was shocked at how fat Lendale looked. I don't care what his listed weight is...White looks like he's carrying an extra 20 pounds this preseason. I realize he may work some of that off before the regular season, but geez, you'd expect him to be in better shape.

He very well could be the type that simply eats his way out of the league. I know a lot of people are still fairly high on White, but I'm not so sure he'll even be their backup in '09. Lots of things I don't like about Lendale. We'll see.

 
What bugs me is not that the says he has a chance to win ROY - he does - but that he thinks he can accomplish what AP did. Which is to say, not only does he believe he can win the award but he believes he can become perhaps the best RB in the league. It's great to be confident but it's also important to be realistic. Let's face it - we won't see another AP for a long time. We know it. And so does Chris Johnson.

 
been around since the cheatsheet days....not sure i have ever seen anything to top this.......the board is absolutely ga-ga over one run in preseason against a sorry D.

the kid has talent but i just don't think he will ever be a every down back.

 
been around since the cheatsheet days....not sure i have ever seen anything to top this.......the board is absolutely ga-ga over one run in preseason against a sorry D. the kid has talent but i just don't think he will ever be a every down back.
Lots of us were high on him long before the run. I don't believe the TD brought in that many new bandwagoneers. Anyway, Johnson may do nothing this week...I'll still be just as high on him. The hype certainly has taken a life of it's own, tho. I think it's simply because he's an exciting player in an ideal situation. This reminds me of the Frank Gore preseason debate a few years ago. With Gore, & now Chris Johnson, sometimes you just have to believe what you see.
 
What bugs me is not that the says he has a chance to win ROY - he does - but that he thinks he can accomplish what AP did. Which is to say, not only does he believe he can win the award but he believes he can become perhaps the best RB in the league. It's great to be confident but it's also important to be realistic. Let's face it - we won't see another AP for a long time. We know it. And so does Chris Johnson.
I think the mentioning of Peterson was about rookie of the year...not matching his production.
 

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