No one is talking about him for ROY at all but Slaton has a better ypc, better ypr, and more TD's than Chris Johnson. Johnson has more yards and more carries but now that Ahman Green is out of the picture, that may change for Slaton very quickly. Of course, Slaton's team isn't 11-1.
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TheFanatic
Footballguy
Well I was wrong here. I have been tricked by speedsters before that got to the big show and found out that they were faster on the clock or not fast as well as tough enough to handle the hits. This guy is legit.
Touchdown Syndrome
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Absolutely. I don't see anyone overtaking him.bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
FUBAR
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In total agreement with switz. May I get added to your sig with the same statement? I can't wait to see you remove it.Cool, and when I'm right will you quietly remove it form your sig and act as if you always agreed with me?kevinallen said:
FUBAR
Footballguy
In a great year for rookies, you're right. If Ryan doesn't win this, something is wrong.Just looking at the skill positions, Forte, Ryan, Slaton, CJ3, Flacco, Royal, and DeSean would all have a chance in most years.
gman74
Footballguy
Joey had 348 with more picks than td's check your stats before posting.
millertyme1
Footballguy
Really hope Ryan and Johnson get Co-ROY. Neither one deserves to lose.
JMO Slaton/Forte are a distinct tier below. The other 2 are the centerpieces of 2 really good teams. (I'm a Bears fan)
JMO Slaton/Forte are a distinct tier below. The other 2 are the centerpieces of 2 really good teams. (I'm a Bears fan)
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When was the last time you could list at least four strong/viable candidate for this? (Ryan, Johnson, Forte, Slaton) with at least three more that would be at least a viable candidate most other years (Flacco, Jackson, Royal).
If Atlanta makes the playoffs, I see no way you could keep the award from Ryan. As it is, I think he's the winner even if they somehow miss. He doesn't even look like a rookie.
If Atlanta makes the playoffs, I see no way you could keep the award from Ryan. As it is, I think he's the winner even if they somehow miss. He doesn't even look like a rookie.
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In total agreement with switz. May I get added to your sig with the same statement? I can't wait to see you remove it.Cool, and when I'm right will you quietly remove it form your sig and act as if you always agreed with me?kevinallen said:
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Ryan probably wins it, though in my mind it should be close between him and Forte or CJ3.
Who wins Defensive RoY? I presume Mayo gets a ton of votes...who else has made as big of an impact?
Who wins Defensive RoY? I presume Mayo gets a ton of votes...who else has made as big of an impact?
The_Man
Footballguy
Flacco gets no love? His numbers aren't quite as good as Ryan's, but he's had to play the Steelers, Titans, and Giants, with the Redskins and Steelers (again) coming up. Ryan has feasted on Detroit, KC, Green Bay, Denver and New Orleans.
When Ryan played the Eagles he had a passer rating of 68 and 2 INTs with his 2 TDs. Flacco vs. the Eagles had a rating of 95.5 and no INTs with his 2 TDs.
Both are really good. But Flacco is closer to Ryan than a lot of people think.
When Ryan played the Eagles he had a passer rating of 68 and 2 INTs with his 2 TDs. Flacco vs. the Eagles had a rating of 95.5 and no INTs with his 2 TDs.
Both are really good. But Flacco is closer to Ryan than a lot of people think.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Yeah...But I would not be putting GB in there as a bad mark against Ryan.Even with the last 2 weeks they are the 5th ranked pass defense.And prior to the Saints games were holding QBs to the lowest completion percentage in the league (or something like that they were showing on the MNF pregame).Just looked...they are still #2 in completion percentage against.
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Chaka
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Outkast
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Too funny that you actually think I give a rats ### what you think regarding the font in my post above.whatever....
Nothing changes the fact that Matt Ryan is by far & away the most deserving rookie to win ROY & could be in the running for MVP right alongside Michael Turner.
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FUBAR
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Lofton has done pretty well, as has Chris Long and Glenn Dorsey. Rivers looked good for a stretch. The Brandons in KC are alright, but won't sniff the award. Mayo probably wins it, but I'm not convinced that he's been better overall than Lofton.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Mayo is an every-down linebacker, Lofton is not. Lofton has been very good in the middle against the run, but Mayo has been every bit as good at times.Chris Horton deserves a mention with Long and Leodis McKelvin could make a late run, but I think the award is easily Mayo's to lose at this point.
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PatrickT
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I only saw Mayo once, but that led me to believe he should get it over Lofton. Incredible player.
Chaka
Footballguy
Too funny that you actually think I give a rats ### what you think regarding the font in my post above.whatever....
Nothing changes the fact that Matt Ryan is by far & away the most deserving rookie to win ROY & could be in the running for MVP right alongside Michael Turner.
FONT SHTICK TAKEN!
Outkast
Footballguy
OUCH - looks like That beat down The Falcons put on the chargers in your backyard is still stinging youToo funny that you actually think I give a rats ### what you think regarding the font in my post above.whatever....
Nothing changes the fact that Matt Ryan is by far & away the most deserving rookie to win ROY & could be in the running for MVP right alongside Michael Turner.
I'm laughing harder @ you - Believe it
Chaka
Footballguy
Glad to provide some entertainment to brighten your day.OUCH - looks like That beat down The Falcons put on the chargers in your backyard is still stinging youToo funny that you actually think I give a rats ### what you think regarding the font in my post above.whatever....
Nothing changes the fact that Matt Ryan is by far & away the most deserving rookie to win ROY & could be in the running for MVP right alongside Michael Turner.
ETA: I was rooting for the Falcons in that game.
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FUBAR
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True. I guess I'm just more impressed with Lofton than I expected to be. Or maybe it was just the few times I've seen him, he seems to have a nose for the ball. Forgot about Horton - good mention.
Vince Young won it and the Titans just missed the playoffs so I am agreeing with you there. Plus, Ryan's a QB which gives him an automatic edge over any other position.And I agree that Flacco seems to be ignored in these discussions and I think he's almost as good as Ryan.
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
Two more. Tired schtick.
Burning Sensation
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No way, huh?CJ - 203 carries, 35 catchesWhite only averaged 5.5YPC. That suxor.3
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One RB is very explosive, whereas the other is going to get you consistent yardage. Coaches play guys that get them consistent yardage, and spell them with guys that are explosive. There's no way Johnson gets more carries than White this season.
White - 146 carries, 4 catches
Coaches play their best players, and it was clear to most people before the season started that Johnson was their best player.
Burning Sensation
Footballguy
Week 3 now. Do none of you ever watch what Jeff Fisher does and how he coaches?Im thinking the other way around. White will be the change of pace guy by week 3, if not to start the season. It seems people often refer to the smaller guy as the COP. I think this situation more resembles the Barber/Jacobs situation from two years ago. Westbrook/Buckhalter, Dunn/Duckett also make decent examples.And in the other CJ thread you're trying to say you're not using statistics in preseason games to draw distinctions between RBs. Only how they run.White only averaged 5.5YPC. That suxor.
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One RB is very explosive, whereas the other is going to get you consistent yardage. Coaches play guys that get them consistent yardage, and spell them with guys that are explosive. There's no way Johnson gets more carries than White this season.
Right back at ya... The point made that White is a consistent grind it out RB, and Johnson is a COP home run hitter, has NOTHING to do with the statistics from the preseason game, and that's not why they were used.The point of the statistics was to show that White doesn't suck. Try reading the line above the stats.
Burning Sensation
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ninerfanatic492000
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Ryan Clady has had best rookie season and its not even close
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PsychoMan
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really are a handful of good rookie candidates this yr
flacco has done well
ryan has done better
slaton / johnson / forte have all done very well, but i must say i am most impressed with forte. he is a helluva complete back and is producing on a team with crap for offensive weapons.
matt ryan should probably get ROY though
flacco has done well
ryan has done better
slaton / johnson / forte have all done very well, but i must say i am most impressed with forte. he is a helluva complete back and is producing on a team with crap for offensive weapons.
matt ryan should probably get ROY though
cstu
Footballguy
I have it:1. Ryan2. Forte3. Johnson4. FlaccoRyan hasn't done much better than Flacco, numbers-wise, but he has turned around a team expected to win at most 4 games. Both could end up putting up some of the best performances by rookie QB's in history. I do think Forte has had the most impressive season and done amazingly well considering what he has to work with. He could also end up with a top 10 all time rookie RB season (1800 total yards and 13 TD's at this pace).IMO it's a toss up between Ryan and Forte.
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FUBAR
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trader jake
Footballguy
Sad but true. CAR RT Jeff Otah is also having a great year for another playoff caliber, run first team.Of the playmakers (who are more likely to win) NYJ TE Dustin Keller deserves a mention for ROY too.
Chaka
Footballguy
Penalties and sacks given up is a good place to start for OL.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Rookie QBs are never expected to do well, unlike rookie RBs, who can make immediate impacts, so it is a bigger deal when a rookie QB does well, making Matt Ryan the favorite at the moment. Forte, Slaton and Johnson would all be worthy picks, as well.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
One-half sack given up through 12 games at - best in the NFL among all tackles - would be one place to start. Shut out John Abrahms and Joey Porter, league leaders in sacks.Rookie QBs succeeding is a rarity. Rookie left tackles going to the Pro Bowl might be even more rare.
ninerfanatic492000
Footballguy
BobbyLayne, seeing your user name icon makes me laugh and brings back memories. reason being thats how my name is pronounced, when i was a kid 20ish years ago any guy over the age of 50 used to tell me stories of the great bobbylayne the last Qb to play without a helmet. trent edwards/trent green/matt schaub can barely play a half without getting a concussion with a helmet, christ imagine if they played without one.
back to subject. Ryan Clady deserves the award clearly but won't win it. this is a award voted on by fans right?if so fans cannot be counted on for voting unbiased or informed. probowler Roy williams(SS).....nuff said
back to subject. Ryan Clady deserves the award clearly but won't win it. this is a award voted on by fans right?if so fans cannot be counted on for voting unbiased or informed. probowler Roy williams(SS).....nuff said
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
You have obviously not watched much Chiefs or Rams football until the last few weeks because neither Dorsey nor Long have done anything to stand out until the last couple weeks. As a Chiefs fan living in STL I see both teams games and neither have impressed until recently.
two_dollars
Footballguy
ROY : Matt Ryan
Runner-Up : Matt Forte
The rest of the field is a DISTANT third imo.
Runner-Up : Matt Forte
The rest of the field is a DISTANT third imo.
Burning Sensation
Footballguy
Ryan
Slaton
Forte
CJ
Flacco
Royal
The 2nd tier is a 4 way tie, although none of them have a chance at winning it.
Slaton
Forte
CJ
Flacco
Royal
The 2nd tier is a 4 way tie, although none of them have a chance at winning it.
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How bout Joe Thomas from last year?
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