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Had a WTF? conversation with the wife (1 Viewer)

First post, just joined... I would like to identify who is behind this :fishing: trip

Okay, the first step to identifying this individual is look at their writing style, they've left a huge clue - Which FBG is a big user of the double space after every punctuation mark?
Why must everything with people be a fishing trip? I have a ton of aliases. Not a fishing trip.
So you use an anonymous alias to post bc you don't want strangers on an anonymous board to know who your original anonymous persona is?

I'm sure you'll get what you came for, but I'm jumping ship - Good luck!
There are different levels of anonymous. And you left out the part where maybe the wife knows my usual board name and checks in once in a while to see what I am posting about. I am guessing she may not want the rest of the world having any inclination I am discussing her infidelity with anyone. Call it a hunch.
Good idea. She probably won't recognize your story either.
First post, just joined... I would like to identify who is behind this :fishing: trip

Okay, the first step to identifying this individual is look at their writing style, they've left a huge clue - Which FBG is a big user of the double space after every punctuation mark?
Why must everything with people be a fishing trip? I have a ton of aliases. Not a fishing trip.
So you use an anonymous alias to post bc you don't want strangers on an anonymous board to know who your original anonymous persona is?

I'm sure you'll get what you came for, but I'm jumping ship - Good luck!
There are different levels of anonymous. And you left out the part where maybe the wife knows my usual board name and checks in once in a while to see what I am posting about. I am guessing she may not want the rest of the world having any inclination I am discussing her infidelity with anyone. Call it a hunch.
She'd prob think this story is about someone in a similar situation :shrug:
HARD DELETE!!

 
First post, just joined... I would like to identify who is behind this :fishing: trip

Okay, the first step to identifying this individual is look at their writing style, they've left a huge clue - Which FBG is a big user of the double space after every punctuation mark?
Why must everything with people be a fishing trip? I have a ton of aliases. Not a fishing trip.
So you use an anonymous alias to post bc you don't want strangers on an anonymous board to know who your original anonymous persona is?

I'm sure you'll get what you came for, but I'm jumping ship - Good luck!
There are different levels of anonymous. And you left out the part where maybe the wife knows my usual board name and checks in once in a while to see what I am posting about. I am guessing she may not want the rest of the world having any inclination I am discussing her infidelity with anyone. Call it a hunch.
Good idea. She probably won't recognize your story either.
She doesn't read any of the threads on the boards. She just looks up my posts on occasion. Not knowing an alias, she would have no way to look up the thread. Get it?

 
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First post, just joined... I would like to identify who is behind this :fishing: trip

Okay, the first step to identifying this individual is look at their writing style, they've left a huge clue - Which FBG is a big user of the double space after every punctuation mark?
Why must everything with people be a fishing trip? I have a ton of aliases. Not a fishing trip.
So you use an anonymous alias to post bc you don't want strangers on an anonymous board to know who your original anonymous persona is?

I'm sure you'll get what you came for, but I'm jumping ship - Good luck!
There are different levels of anonymous. And you left out the part where maybe the wife knows my usual board name and checks in once in a while to see what I am posting about. I am guessing she may not want the rest of the world having any inclination I am discussing her infidelity with anyone. Call it a hunch.
Yeah she'll probably just think some other guy on here has been hiding the exact same secret all these years from their husband

 
First post, just joined... I would like to identify who is behind this :fishing: trip

Okay, the first step to identifying this individual is look at their writing style, they've left a huge clue - Which FBG is a big user of the double space after every punctuation mark?
Why must everything with people be a fishing trip? I have a ton of aliases. Not a fishing trip.
So you use an anonymous alias to post bc you don't want strangers on an anonymous board to know who your original anonymous persona is?

I'm sure you'll get what you came for, but I'm jumping ship - Good luck!
There are different levels of anonymous. And you left out the part where maybe the wife knows my usual board name and checks in once in a while to see what I am posting about. I am guessing she may not want the rest of the world having any inclination I am discussing her infidelity with anyone. Call it a hunch.
Good idea. She probably won't recognize your story either.
She doesn't read any of the threads on the boards. She just looks up my posts on occasion. Not knowing an alias, she would have no way to look up the thread. Get it?
You spelled "keeps tabs on me" wrong.

 
As I sat there not having any idea of what to think or what to say, she of course said I had nothing to worry about in OUR relationship, all this happened before my time and really had nothing to do with me, and she claimed to have been faithful to me the whole time.
It was a long time ago. People make mistakes. No reason to blow up your marriage over something that happened prior to your marriage.

 
If its me, I'm very concerned. She has essentially lied to you for 14 years. At a minimum, she didn't trust you enough to reveal this while you were dating OR during the first 14 years of your marriage.

She lied to her first husband about all the affairs and that the child was not his. She claims it was a "bad marriage", but who knows if that part is true? She has already lied to you about the circumstances of how her first marriage ended. Plus, if she cheated on her spouse previously, she thinks that conduct is acceptable and could do it again. If she hasn't done it already.

She clearly has deep-seeded problems with her history. It is going to affect both of you, and your marriage as well. Marriage counseling is strongly recommended. You both will have to deal with trust issues, and whether your marriage is worth fighting for.

 
Unsure why so many are obsessed with screaming fishing trip. People have been creating aliases for personal subjects like these for years, it's fairly common. Not really sure what the endgame would be here if someone were fishing. :shrug:

 
So she's finally so comfortable and happy enough with you and your relationship to be honest about something she assumed you'd judge her for from the day you met.

This is going well.
She certainly didn't seem comfortable and happy when she spilled the beans during a depression fueled alcohol binge.
 
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I would be worried. And, I would be asking a lot of questions. She opened the door so you have the right to ask about anything and everything.

 
Yeah its in the past, yeah it happened before you. But we are talking about 14 years of her not being upfront and honest about something that is pretty serious. So if she is able to keep this sort of lie going on for so long, what else is she being less than truthful about?

 
If its me, I'm very concerned. She has essentially lied to you for 14 years. At a minimum, she didn't trust you enough to reveal this while you were dating OR during the first 14 years of your marriage.

She lied to her first husband about all the affairs and that the child was not his. She claims it was a "bad marriage", but who knows if that part is true? She has already lied to you about the circumstances of how her first marriage ended. Plus, if she cheated on her spouse previously, she thinks that conduct is acceptable and could do it again. If she hasn't done it already.

She clearly has deep-seeded problems with her history. It is going to affect both of you, and your marriage as well. Marriage counseling is strongly recommended. You both will have to deal with trust issues, and whether your marriage is worth fighting for.
sidebar

 
failing to see the issue here.
About creating an alias? I agree

About having an affair during her first marriage with MANY different partners which resulted in having a baby that wasn't her husbands (and she doesn't know whose) that rightfully caused him to leave, then making up a story about that husband abandoning the family and playing the role of a victim for 14 years? I'm going to have to disagree.

 
If in fact this is not a fishing trip, then I think the biggest problem is the lying, not the affair(s) or the results of said affair(s). That is as big a lie as can be maintained, and she has managed to pull it off for 14 years? I'd have one hell of a time trusting anything that came out of her mouth from now on. You are in a horrible spot, because I don't know how you can trust her at all from this point forward. I would also be extremely curious why she decided now was time to spill the beans. Someone mentioned the possibility that she wanted to tell you first, at the risk of someone else telling you, so she could control the narrative. I would seriously question if she had done something else recently that had her feeling immense guilt, and she failed to complete the story.

Sorry, I tend to be a skeptic, but more often than not... people prove to me that skeptical is usually the right approach. Especially with someone who has already established that they are not trustworthy.

 
You should have been tipped off by the scent of burning rubbers coming from her crotch.

Must of smelled like a drag strip during the IHRA Nationals!

 
There's an ancient Greek saying, "What disturbs and alarms man, are not the things, but his opinions and fancies about the things."

In this case, nothing about your life or your relationship with your wife is different from how it was before you learned this info. The only thing that is different is your opinion about your relationship and (possibly) your wife.

If you're happy and you love her, then who cares? Just be thankful for whatever chain of events that brought you together at the time in your lives when you were suited to be together.

I'm continually thankful that a lot of the stupid crap I did when I was younger doesn't follow me around to this day and mess up the happy life I've made.

 
To make this even more bizarre, I asked when she was under the influence why her ex- never got a paternity test -- if for no other reason to rule him out as the father and not have to pay child support. But he never did and instead has shelled out hundreds of $200K in support over the years. She said he didn't want to go through the embarrassment of having a cheating wife and he always thought the kid was really his and he didn't want to know. He later moved to our area and sees the two kids a lot, so I commend him on that.

As for the level of cheating she fessed up to, she said there were 2 or 3 regular guys she was seeing while married and "sometimes things might have happened at parties". I don't speak drunken girl talk, so people will have to clue me in on what number that translates to. Apparently things in the sack were infrequent with her ex- and he was out of town for several months on business when the miracle of conception occurred, so she is "pretty sure" it wasn't her husband that did the inseminating. If it was one guy, one time or 50 guys, 500 times in terms of cheating, does it really matter?

 
To make this even more bizarre, I asked when she was under the influence why her ex- never got a paternity test -- if for no other reason to rule him out as the father and not have to pay child support. But he never did and instead has shelled out hundreds of $200K in support over the years. She said he didn't want to go through the embarrassment of having a cheating wife and he always thought the kid was really his and he didn't want to know. He later moved to our area and sees the two kids a lot, so I commend him on that.

As for the level of cheating she fessed up to, she said there were 2 or 3 regular guys she was seeing while married and "sometimes things might have happened at parties". I don't speak drunken girl talk, so people will have to clue me in on what number that translates to. Apparently things in the sack were infrequent with her ex- and he was out of town for several months on business when the miracle of conception occurred, so she is "pretty sure" it wasn't her husband that did the inseminating. If it was one guy, one time or 50 guys, 500 times in terms of cheating, does it really matter?
Amateur move following up good bait with stink bait. Better luck next time.

 
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To make this even more bizarre, I asked when she was under the influence why her ex- never got a paternity test -- if for no other reason to rule him out as the father and not have to pay child support. But he never did and instead has shelled out hundreds of $200K in support over the years. She said he didn't want to go through the embarrassment of having a cheating wife and he always thought the kid was really his and he didn't want to know. He later moved to our area and sees the two kids a lot, so I commend him on that.

As for the level of cheating she fessed up to, she said there were 2 or 3 regular guys she was seeing while married and "sometimes things might have happened at parties". I don't speak drunken girl talk, so people will have to clue me in on what number that translates to. Apparently things in the sack were infrequent with her ex- and he was out of town for several months on business when the miracle of conception occurred, so she is "pretty sure" it wasn't her husband that did the inseminating. If it was one guy, one time or 50 guys, 500 times in terms of cheating, does it really matter?
i dunno. The cheating, 14 years ago wouldnt concern me as much as her lying about it

 
There's an ancient Greek saying, "What disturbs and alarms man, are not the things, but his opinions and fancies about the things."

In this case, nothing about your life or your relationship with your wife is different from how it was before you learned this info. The only thing that is different is your opinion about your relationship and (possibly) your wife.

If you're happy and you love her, then who cares? Just be thankful for whatever chain of events that brought you together at the time in your lives when you were suited to be together.

I'm continually thankful that a lot of the stupid crap I did when I was younger doesn't follow me around to this day and mess up the happy life I've made.
While things specifically haven't changed, the basis of why we got together has. I get that she was not going to walk around telling people that she was not being faithful, but part of the reason we got together was me feeling sorry for her predicament and wanting to be helpful to her plight and her time in need. So I bought in to the single mom that got crapped on by her ex- and he was a d-bag story.

So sure, 14 years later our relationship may not have changed, but how we got to have a relationship and the values I thought she had going into it have been blown out of the water. Clearly she lied, cheated, and withheld information. Is she the same person today as she was last week? Technically yes, but possibly no.

 
To make this even more bizarre, I asked when she was under the influence why her ex- never got a paternity test -- if for no other reason to rule him out as the father and not have to pay child support. But he never did and instead has shelled out hundreds of $200K in support over the years. She said he didn't want to go through the embarrassment of having a cheating wife and he always thought the kid was really his and he didn't want to know. He later moved to our area and sees the two kids a lot, so I commend him on that.

As for the level of cheating she fessed up to, she said there were 2 or 3 regular guys she was seeing while married and "sometimes things might have happened at parties". I don't speak drunken girl talk, so people will have to clue me in on what number that translates to. Apparently things in the sack were infrequent with her ex- and he was out of town for several months on business when the miracle of conception occurred, so she is "pretty sure" it wasn't her husband that did the inseminating. If it was one guy, one time or 50 guys, 500 times in terms of cheating, does it really matter?
Her ex seems to be the good person in all of this. Divorce your wife and marry her ex.

 
To make this even more bizarre, I asked when she was under the influence why her ex- never got a paternity test -- if for no other reason to rule him out as the father and not have to pay child support. But he never did and instead has shelled out hundreds of $200K in support over the years. She said he didn't want to go through the embarrassment of having a cheating wife and he always thought the kid was really his and he didn't want to know. He later moved to our area and sees the two kids a lot, so I commend him on that.

As for the level of cheating she fessed up to, she said there were 2 or 3 regular guys she was seeing while married and "sometimes things might have happened at parties". I don't speak drunken girl talk, so people will have to clue me in on what number that translates to. Apparently things in the sack were infrequent with her ex- and he was out of town for several months on business when the miracle of conception occurred, so she is "pretty sure" it wasn't her husband that did the inseminating. If it was one guy, one time or 50 guys, 500 times in terms of cheating, does it really matter?
Amateur move following up good bait with stink bait. Better luck next time.
Yeah. I created a whole new board name, waited out the multi day waiting period to be able to post, and then posted this ONE TOPIC just because I felt like messing with people on a message board about a made up story. That makes sense. Like I don't have anything better to do than go fishing about a personal issue on this site.

 
She mentioned that her first kid is his and her second kid is not. We have one kid of our own.

Of course, the only natural reaction is to worry if your own kid is someone else's. She said I was the father of our kid, but she asked would it make any difference at this point if I wasn't? That didn't really wow me for a response, but I can't emphasize enough how trashed she was so one could not expect her to be thinking 100%.

She did ask me if knowing who the father of one of my stepkids mattered to me, and I said no. I wasn't the father either way, so my position was essentially the same.
Duh. Hell yeah it would!

 
While she was 6 sheets or whatever to the wind, you should have started interrogating her about her relationship with you and what she has lied about since you have been married.

 
To make this even more bizarre, I asked when she was under the influence why her ex- never got a paternity test -- if for no other reason to rule him out as the father and not have to pay child support. But he never did and instead has shelled out hundreds of $200K in support over the years. She said he didn't want to go through the embarrassment of having a cheating wife and he always thought the kid was really his and he didn't want to know. He later moved to our area and sees the two kids a lot, so I commend him on that.

As for the level of cheating she fessed up to, she said there were 2 or 3 regular guys she was seeing while married and "sometimes things might have happened at parties". I don't speak drunken girl talk, so people will have to clue me in on what number that translates to. Apparently things in the sack were infrequent with her ex- and he was out of town for several months on business when the miracle of conception occurred, so she is "pretty sure" it wasn't her husband that did the inseminating. If it was one guy, one time or 50 guys, 500 times in terms of cheating, does it really matter?
Had me on the fence as to whether this was :fishing: prior to this reply.

Have fun

 
While she was 6 sheets or whatever to the wind, you should have started interrogating her about her relationship with you and what she has lied about since you have been married.
I did. She said the last guy she hooked up with was a guy she dated just before me. Said she hooked up with him twice right after we started dating and then dumped him. Says no one else since then. Admitted to having more conquests before me or her ex-, but nothing in my timeframe. Again, I am no expert on what people say when they are drunk, if they can tell the truth some times or only some of the time, but she had nothing to admit to during our time together. Which raises the issue of whether to believe her or not.

 
While she was 6 sheets or whatever to the wind, you should have started interrogating her about her relationship with you and what she has lied about since you have been married.
I did. She said the last guy she hooked up with was a guy she dated just before me. Said she hooked up with him twice right after we started dating and then dumped him. Says no one else since then. Admitted to having more conquests before me or her ex-, but nothing in my timeframe. Again, I am no expert on what people say when they are drunk, if they can tell the truth some times or only some of the time, but she had nothing to admit to during our time together. Which raises the issue of whether to believe her or not.
If she's been faithful to you and you otherwise get along, cut her some slack. Life is too short to be holier-than-thou.

 
While she was 6 sheets or whatever to the wind, you should have started interrogating her about her relationship with you and what she has lied about since you have been married.
I did. She said the last guy she hooked up with was a guy she dated just before me. Said she hooked up with him twice right after we started dating and then dumped him. Says no one else since then. Admitted to having more conquests before me or her ex-, but nothing in my timeframe. Again, I am no expert on what people say when they are drunk, if they can tell the truth some times or only some of the time, but she had nothing to admit to during our time together. Which raises the issue of whether to believe her or not.
I find this hard to believe. Get a keylogger for the computer, and a voice-activated recorder to hide in her car.

 
While she was 6 sheets or whatever to the wind, you should have started interrogating her about her relationship with you and what she has lied about since you have been married.
I did. She said the last guy she hooked up with was a guy she dated just before me. Said she hooked up with him twice right after we started dating and then dumped him. Says no one else since then. Admitted to having more conquests before me or her ex-, but nothing in my timeframe. Again, I am no expert on what people say when they are drunk, if they can tell the truth some times or only some of the time, but she had nothing to admit to during our time together. Which raises the issue of whether to believe her or not.
If she's been faithful to you and you otherwise get along, cut her some slack. Life is too short to be holier-than-thou.
I do believe her, but I believed her story for 14 years. Pretty good reason to at least wonder if she is telling the truth. Put another way, two weeks ago if you said list off the 25 wives in your circle of friends that you think had juggled multiple affairs at the same time at some point in their lives from most likely to least likely, I would have put my wife last on the list.

 
While she was 6 sheets or whatever to the wind, you should have started interrogating her about her relationship with you and what she has lied about since you have been married.
I did. She said the last guy she hooked up with was a guy she dated just before me. Said she hooked up with him twice right after we started dating and then dumped him. Says no one else since then. Admitted to having more conquests before me or her ex-, but nothing in my timeframe. Again, I am no expert on what people say when they are drunk, if they can tell the truth some times or only some of the time, but she had nothing to admit to during our time together. Which raises the issue of whether to believe her or not.
Aside from this conversation, do you have reason to be suspicious?

If not, this stuff is in the past and she's clearly signalling to you that she wants to be open with you. Be forgiving as long as what you're getting is the full story.

 
something tells me there is way more to this story....you need to tell us way more about her baggage....there has to be some in this case.

 
I wouldnt worry about her cheating on you or anything but Id be pretty pissed if my wife kept such a huge lie all those years. VERY pissed. I wouldnt ignore it. I wouldnt panic either. But yeah Id seriously think about couples therapy to get passed this huge lie.
A liar is a liar is a liar. If she can lie to you this long about something this big, there is no doubt she has and is lying about other important stuff too. I don't think couple's therapy can make a dishonest person honest. And you just found out that your wife is not only a dishonest person, but also one that doesn't have trouble breaking marital vows and sleeping around if things go south.

So in all this time the original husband plays no part in the kids lives at all? Can you speak to him?

 
To make this even more bizarre, I asked when she was under the influence why her ex- never got a paternity test -- if for no other reason to rule him out as the father and not have to pay child support. But he never did and instead has shelled out hundreds of $200K in support over the years. She said he didn't want to go through the embarrassment of having a cheating wife and he always thought the kid was really his and he didn't want to know. He later moved to our area and sees the two kids a lot, so I commend him on that.

As for the level of cheating she fessed up to, she said there were 2 or 3 regular guys she was seeing while married and "sometimes things might have happened at parties". I don't speak drunken girl talk, so people will have to clue me in on what number that translates to. Apparently things in the sack were infrequent with her ex- and he was out of town for several months on business when the miracle of conception occurred, so she is "pretty sure" it wasn't her husband that did the inseminating. If it was one guy, one time or 50 guys, 500 times in terms of cheating, does it really matter?
I know a few people who cheated in their first marriages and then married the right person for them and don't cheat on that person.

 
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She mentioned that her first kid is his and her second kid is not. We have one kid of our own.

Of course, the only natural reaction is to worry if your own kid is someone else's. She said I was the father of our kid, but she asked would it make any difference at this point if I wasn't? That didn't really wow me for a response, but I can't emphasize enough how trashed she was so one could not expect her to be thinking 100%.

She did ask me if knowing who the father of one of my stepkids mattered to me, and I said no. I wasn't the father either way, so my position was essentially the same.
woah.. woah..

FIRST kid was his, then she had a 2nd kid which was not his? And she was still married to him?

OK, you may be ####ed
Also basically told him that "their" kid is not his either. I hope your swift answer was "Yes, it would matter a ton, too bad we have to get the paternity test now."

 
I wouldnt worry about her cheating on you or anything but Id be pretty pissed if my wife kept such a huge lie all those years. VERY pissed. I wouldnt ignore it. I wouldnt panic either. But yeah Id seriously think about couples therapy to get passed this huge lie.
A liar is a liar is a liar. If she can lie to you this long about something this big, there is no doubt she has and is lying about other important stuff too. I don't think couple's therapy can make a dishonest person honest. And you just found out that your wife is not only a dishonest person, but also one that doesn't have trouble breaking marital vows and sleeping around if things go south.

So in all this time the original husband plays no part in the kids lives at all? Can you speak to him?
Guessed u missed up thread that he moved around here and sees the kids all the time. I could speak to him, but not really sure that is such a great idea. From what I do know things that happen at each other's houses make the rounds and get back to the other, so talking about this could start a firestorm. Don't really know him, so not sure I can trust him. Also not sure the first conversation with someone should be how many guys your wife banged when you were married.

 
To make this even more bizarre, I asked when she was under the influence why her ex- never got a paternity test -- if for no other reason to rule him out as the father and not have to pay child support. But he never did and instead has shelled out hundreds of $200K in support over the years. She said he didn't want to go through the embarrassment of having a cheating wife and he always thought the kid was really his and he didn't want to know. He later moved to our area and sees the two kids a lot, so I commend him on that.

As for the level of cheating she fessed up to, she said there were 2 or 3 regular guys she was seeing while married and "sometimes things might have happened at parties". I don't speak drunken girl talk, so people will have to clue me in on what number that translates to. Apparently things in the sack were infrequent with her ex- and he was out of town for several months on business when the miracle of conception occurred, so she is "pretty sure" it wasn't her husband that did the inseminating. If it was one guy, one time or 50 guys, 500 times in terms of cheating, does it really matter?
I know a few people who cheated in their first marriages and then married the right person for them and don't cheat on that person.
It's also not unheard of for marriages to not only survive an affair but to be ultimately stronger for coming through the crisis together.

Like I've been saying, it's good she's telling you the truth (if indeed it's the truth and all of the truth), so give her the chance to show that she's doing this for the right reasons, that being to build a stronger relationship with you.

 
something tells me there is way more to this story....you need to tell us way more about her baggage....there has to be some in this case.
Not sure what baggage you are looking for. If you ask specific things I can try to answer.
Daddy issues, abuse problems when she was a child, struggles with depression, bipolar, etc.....People don't just lose all of their morals in a night and end up with a kid....based on your description it also sounds like she was into some pretty hardcore activities as well......

 
The mere fact that you're "questioning" whether to bring this up to her means one of two things.

1) you're a #####

2) you already know the answers to what you potentially wanna ask.

I'll lean towards #2, because I want to believe you have a set of balls.

Straighten #### out tonight, and if you gotta hit the road, then that's what you gotta do.

####... whoever gave women the right to vote should be slapped. completely downhill from there

 
dropping a bombshell that isn't totally relevant to you, is covering a bombshell that completely involves you.

Biatches LOVE temporary fixes.

 

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