Handling Blind Bidding Outside of a League Management Site/Software (1 Viewer)

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

My league is discussing the possibility of needing to implement a blind bidding process for a couple of different scenarios.

Note - these bids wouldn't be in reference to blind bid waivers, and so the functionality we're looking for isn't covered by MFL's built-in blind bidding system.

Does anyone have recommendations of how we can truly make the bids 'blind', considering the commissioner of our league is also a franchise owner, and thus may be swayed by seeing other franchise's blind bids if they were submitted to his email address, for example.

How do other leagues handle this sort of thing?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Shtaym Syek]

My league is discussing the possibility of needing to implement a blind bidding process for a couple of different scenarios.Note - these bids wouldn't be in reference to blind bid waivers, and so the functionality we're looking for isn't covered by MFL's built-in blind bidding system. Does anyone have recommendations of how we can truly make the bids 'blind', considering the commissioner of our league is also a franchise owner, and thus may be swayed by seeing other franchise's blind bids if they were submitted to his email address, for example. How do other leagues handle this sort of thing?Thanks in advance!

Wouldn't you just get someone to set up an e-mail address and not share the password until the commish needs to open it? Takes 2 seconds.

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

Wouldn't you just get someone to set up an e-mail address and not share the password until the commish needs to open it? Takes 2 seconds.

Thanks, Keys. But 'someone' still has the password, and theoretically could preview the blind bids, if they were so inclined.I know it probably sounds strange but some of our league owners expressed concerns about how 'blind' blind bids would be if emailed, so I wanted to see if anyone here had any ideas/suggestions.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Send them to the Commish by snail mail and then have someone verify that the envelopes weren't opened until the appropriate time.

At the end of the day though, this is why you need to have a Commish you trust. If you don't trust him/her to handle transactions like this one you probably shouldn't be in the league.

 

[eaglesfan7]

Commissioner should always just have the ability to see pending transactions turned off. Wouldn't that solve the problem?

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

Commissioner should always just have the ability to see pending transactions turned off. Wouldn't that solve the problem?

No - as I mentioned, this isn't a blind bid waivers thing.

 

[noneother]

Our solution was 2 commishes. And a gmail account. We submitted our bids to the gmail account. To inform the other we were done and "locked".

Once we both were locked. We then peeked. Once in awhile we may have had a coincidence. Where one of our bids just slightly beat another team. But by submitting ours FIRST, then asking for other teams to submit, removes that issue.

Now with MfL. We both post our bids first. The day before we open the blind bidding to the rest.

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

Our solution was 2 commishes. And a gmail account. We submitted our bids to the gmail account. To inform the other we were done and "locked". Once we both were locked. We then peeked. Once in awhile we may have had a coincidence. Where one of our bids just slightly beat another team. But by submitting ours FIRST, then asking for other teams to submit, removes that issue. Now with MfL. We both post our bids first. The day before we open the blind bidding to the rest.

This seems like it might work. Thanks!Any others...?

 

[B Maverick]

Our solution was 2 commishes. And a gmail account. We submitted our bids to the gmail account. To inform the other we were done and "locked". Once we both were locked. We then peeked. Once in awhile we may have had a coincidence. Where one of our bids just slightly beat another team. But by submitting ours FIRST, then asking for other teams to submit, removes that issue. Now with MfL. We both post our bids first. The day before we open the blind bidding to the rest.

This seems like it might work. Thanks!Any others...?

This seems like a good idea. Ours isnt as "secure". The commish sends his bid to the first person who sends in their bid. If there are any issues its then between those two and if further bids are questioned, there is a backup person to verify the commish's bids.Maybe we have too much trust in the commish but we have never had any issues in this system.

 

[HULLOBUDMAN]

My league is discussing the possibility of needing to implement a blind bidding process for a couple of different scenarios.

Note - these bids wouldn't be in reference to blind bid waivers, and so the functionality we're looking for isn't covered by MFL's built-in blind bidding system.

Does anyone have recommendations of how we can truly make the bids 'blind', considering the commissioner of our league is also a franchise owner, and thus may be swayed by seeing other franchise's blind bids if they were submitted to his email address, for example.

How do other leagues handle this sort of thing?

Thanks in advance!

What are the scenarios you are talking about? Maybe that would help figure out why you can't use that solution.FYI as the league I commish, I put my bids in no later than 2 hours before the deadline. Everyone knows when I will put them in so if they don't trust me then they just put them in after my deadline. If there was ever a reason to think I peeked I then have 2 answers. 1) you should just put it in after 5pm. 2) Here is a copy of my bids from MFL at 4:55. You can see I did not change anything after my self imposed lock out.

We have had no issues in that league. I did have a feeling in another league that the commish was peeking. In MFL you can set the home screen to log the times league members last visited the site. WE set that to be available to everyone. You should never see the commish login during the blind bid window. Since it can be monitored on the home page, it was a good deterrent and the you know if the commish is not logging in during that period he could not possibly peek.

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

What are the scenarios you are talking about? Maybe that would help figure out why you can't use that solution.

Thanks for the reply, Hullo. This particular scenario would be a supplemental draft, similar to how the NFL's supplemental draft works.Players are available for bidding. Teams are blind-bidding future draft picks on them. The team that bids the highest round pick wins the player and loses that round's draft pick the following season.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

get together at the bar and write it down on paper. Thats how my league did a draft one season

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

get together at the bar and write it down on paper. Thats how my league did a draft one season

We have owners throughout the country and abroad - in-person is not an option for us.

 

[RTSportsDude]

RTSports allows you to hide your blind bids from the commissioner, if desired.

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

RTSports allows you to hide your blind bids from the commissioner, if desired.

Thanks - this isn't for typical blind bid waivers though - see post #11 above.

 

[Kinger]

What are the scenarios you are talking about? Maybe that would help figure out why you can't use that solution.

Thanks for the reply, Hullo. This particular scenario would be a supplemental draft, similar to how the NFL's supplemental draft works.Players are available for bidding. Teams are blind-bidding future draft picks on them. The team that bids the highest round pick wins the player and loses that round's draft pick the following season.

Could you assign a dollar amount to each pick, email that conversion list to everyone, and then let them bid that way?The 1.01 = 1000, the 1.02 = 999, etc.

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

What are the scenarios you are talking about? Maybe that would help figure out why you can't use that solution.

Thanks for the reply, Hullo. This particular scenario would be a supplemental draft, similar to how the NFL's supplemental draft works.Players are available for bidding. Teams are blind-bidding future draft picks on them. The team that bids the highest round pick wins the player and loses that round's draft pick the following season.

Could you assign a dollar amount to each pick, email that conversion list to everyone, and then let them bid that way?The 1.01 = 1000, the 1.02 = 999, etc.

Not a bad idea at all. Perhaps we could use MFL's blind bidding system. And, ours wouldn't even have to be as complex as you laid out. Since we're bidding future draft picks, all we'd need to do is make the bid number the inverse of round number. So, if you bid "5 dollars", that means next year's 1st round pick. If you bid "4 dollars", that means a 2nd round pick, etc.5=1

4=2

3=3

2=4

1=5

 

[RTSportsDude]

RTSports allows you to hide your blind bids from the commissioner, if desired.

Thanks - this isn't for typical blind bid waivers though - see post #11 above.

OK, so here is a workaround...Use our blind bidding system to bid your draft picks on the players, only the higher numbers represent lower rounds (so, if you have 16 rounds, a bid of 16 represents a first round pick, 15 a second round, etc.) Users can only bid 1-16. Once the player is awarded, the commissioner can save the results and, in future drafts, forfeit the appropriate pick that was used to acquire the players. Not super-smooth, but it would work.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Send them to an independent third party.

 

[HULLOBUDMAN]

Why not just have the commish set up an email addy like supplementaldraft@gmail.com. Have the commissioner send his bid in first. Then everyone sends theirs in until the dealine. Then give all the league members the password to access the email address once the BB deadline is over. All email times would be timestamped and by the commish submitting first, it avoids any peeking.

 

[Thorpe]

Put your bid in a text file. Zip the text file with a password. Email the Zip to everyone in the league. After the deadline, you email everyone in the league the password you used.

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

Put your bid in a text file. Zip the text file with a password. Email the Zip to everyone in the league. After the deadline, you email everyone in the league the password you used.

Some of the guys in this league would get stuck on "put your bid in a text file". I like the solution, though!

 

[Thorpe]

Put your bid in a text file. Zip the text file with a password. Email the Zip to everyone in the league. After the deadline, you email everyone in the league the password you used.

Some of the guys in this league would get stuck on "put your bid in a text file". I like the solution, though!

I know what you mean. If you do this, you should probably have a test run.