Patrick Bateman
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I have the top pick, in a redraft H2H league tonight. I'm trying to decide between Hanley Ramirez or Jose Reyes. Thoughts?
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Hanley or Jose at #1? (1 Viewer)
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fred_1_15301
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Hanley and it really isn't close.................Patrick Bateman said:
Michael Brown
Footballguy
How do you figure it's not close?They're the same age and play the same position.Last year, they were separated by 12 runs, 1 RBI, and .004 in BA so those categories are almost washes. I realize Hanley trumped Jose in two of the three, but it's well within reason to assume Reyes can catch him.The big differences are that Hanley hit 17 more HR while Reyes stole 21 more bags. Typically I'd rather have the HR over the SB but the fact remains that each guy was significantly ahead in a category.Hanley SHOULD be in better RBI spots this year batting 3rd which is why I have him ahead of Reyes, but it's not so outrageously different that there's not a decision to be made in my opinion.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Hanley probably has 40/40 potential. Reyes certainly doesn't have that. Also, Hanley isn't a mental midget like Reyes.......
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cheese
Footballguy
Great post, but I think if you're going to bump him for RBI's moving to 3rd I think you should also bump down his steals a tad. He could be the exception, but I have a hard time believing he ends up with as many steal attempts there.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I have the #1 in a 10 team redraft league and am leaning toward Hanley over Reyes and Albert.
My feeling is with Hanley batting third this year he will not have the #8 hitter and pitcher batting in front of him all season, that alone should increase his RBI totals by 20% or more. Plus Hanley is capable of 35-40 HRs, Reyes is maxed out in power around 14-20.
I love Albert, but if I take Hanley I still should be able to get Fielder, Justin M, or Berkman coming back. Having Hanley and one of those guys should work out better than Albert and the 6th best SS.
My feeling is with Hanley batting third this year he will not have the #8 hitter and pitcher batting in front of him all season, that alone should increase his RBI totals by 20% or more. Plus Hanley is capable of 35-40 HRs, Reyes is maxed out in power around 14-20.
I love Albert, but if I take Hanley I still should be able to get Fielder, Justin M, or Berkman coming back. Having Hanley and one of those guys should work out better than Albert and the 6th best SS.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I think the exact opposite is true, if anything. I'm afraid Han Ram's power may be maxed out and Reyes may have room for growth. I'm not expecting more than 15-17 HR's from Reyes, but I think it's possible. I'd be surprised if Han Ram matches his 08 HR total.
Michael Brown
Footballguy
I thought about that, but I don't think he'll lose too many. He had 35 last year and I can't see the Marlins suddenly stopping him on the basepaths much from that figure. They're going to need to manufacture runs and if he does drop off I don't think it'll go below 30. The drop from 35 to 30 is in my opinion more than offset by the ribbies going up to the 90 range.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
From what I have been reading this will probably be Hanleys last year at SS, he is tall and filling out. Next year he may be in the outfield ot at third base.So get him at SS for one more year.
Cool in the pocket
Footballguy
With Arod a big question mark, Wright is in a tier by himself unless Miggy has 3B eligibility in your league. It's a pretty big drop after Wright imho.Patrick Bateman
Footballguy
I took Hanley #1. I hate my team though. Tell me what you think.
Here's how it rounds out:
C-R Hernandez
1B-C Jackson
1B-3B C Davis ®
2B-I Kinsler
2B-A Ramirez ®
3B-R Zimmerman
SS-H Ramirez
SS-R Theriot ®
OF-A Rios
OF-I Suzuki
OF-M Holliday
OF-L Milledge ®
OF-M Kemp ®
OF-A Soriano
P-C Billingsley
P-E Volquez
P-J Vazquez
P-J Verlander
P-M Parra
RP-B Wilson
RP-M Gonzalez
Here's how it rounds out:
C-R Hernandez
1B-C Jackson
1B-3B C Davis ®
2B-I Kinsler
2B-A Ramirez ®
3B-R Zimmerman
SS-H Ramirez
SS-R Theriot ®
OF-A Rios
OF-I Suzuki
OF-M Holliday
OF-L Milledge ®
OF-M Kemp ®
OF-A Soriano
P-C Billingsley
P-E Volquez
P-J Vazquez
P-J Verlander
P-M Parra
RP-B Wilson
RP-M Gonzalez
thehornet
Footballguy
i like your team, but you dont have a stud pitcher which is going to hurt. Your relief corps are weak too. Really nice lineup.
Patrick Bateman
Footballguy
Yeah, there was a huge run on pitchers early on, and I resisted. I was taking the best players available. I'm a firm believer in picking up pitchers during the season on waivers. Our league scoring sets up really weak for relievers, so I'm not too worried about that. I'm a little light on power, but I'm hoping to make that up with speed. Our league scoring gives 2 pts. per SB.thehornet said:
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
I've got Reyes at #1 and I think it's close.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
I think you could justify either, and it depends on how you want to shape your team. I don't think there is a clear favorite, frankly. I took Hanley last year assuming he would be much better than Reyes, and even with the slow start, Reyes caught up to him. I expect Hanley to have more RBI, but fewer steals than he had last season. He'll probably max out at 30 SB whereas Reyes could still reach 65+. The wildcard is Reyes' power. He does have the ability to hit 25 HR, but I doubt he ever will. If he did, he'd be much more valuable.
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Michael Brown
Footballguy
What's the deal with Hanley's shoulder?
MAC_32
Footballguy
Wasn't it bothering him last year too?
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