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Happy Passover to everyone! (1 Viewer)

Sorry about that, someone had already used the stuff about the slaughtered Egyptians.
I like a funny post as much as anyone AND I like to bust Tim's balls but you're going to have to unpack the whole Egyptians/Peter Cottontail/Passover post.
I don't know about the Peter Cottontail thing, but I think the "slaughtered Egyptians" bit is a reference to a Metallica song.
I think Peter Cottentail is in reference to Little Bunny Foo Foo Fighters

 
So you celebrate by eating cheap food and drinking cheap wine. good times.
Cheap food? Huh?
Exactly what I was thinking.
The Manischewitz wine is cheap and really bad. I mean really bad.

Which one will you be drinking Tim? Do you drink the Creams & Cordials? Ooof...
Normally it's concord grape. This year I dunno.

We used to celebrate every year at my mom's house, but she died the year before last. The last couple of years we've gone to the temple for a group affair. It's very nice.

 
So you celebrate by eating cheap food and drinking cheap wine. good times.
Cheap food? Huh?
Exactly what I was thinking.
The Manischewitz wine is cheap and really bad. I mean really bad.

Which one will you be drinking Tim? Do you drink the Creams & Cordials? Ooof...
Normally it's concord grape. This year I dunno.

We used to celebrate every year at my mom's house, but she died the year before last. The last couple of years we've gone to the temple for a group affair. It's very nice.
My Father-in-Law is Jewish and I've never screwed my courage up sufficiently to ask him, how exactly do you pay for temple? Is it like reserving a seat? I'm too used to the Protestant method of guilting you into the collection plate.

 
So you celebrate by eating cheap food and drinking cheap wine. good times.
Cheap food? Huh?
Exactly what I was thinking.
The Manischewitz wine is cheap and really bad. I mean really bad.

Which one will you be drinking Tim? Do you drink the Creams & Cordials? Ooof...
Normally it's concord grape. This year I dunno.

We used to celebrate every year at my mom's house, but she died the year before last. The last couple of years we've gone to the temple for a group affair. It's very nice.
My Father-in-Law is Jewish and I've never screwed my courage up sufficiently to ask him, how exactly do you pay for temple? Is it like reserving a seat? I'm too used to the Protestant method of guilting you into the collection plate.
I don't think there's any uniform rule. My local temple (reformed) where we're going tonight has an annual membership fee, but I only attend for the Passover dinner or for other special events. Tonight I'm paying $85 for myself, my wife and 2 daughters. That's a family rate. My father is paying $40 for himself.

 
Tim, do you make your own gefilte and/or matzoh? Any tasty lamb on the weeks menu?
Hopefully there will be lamb. My grandmother used to make her own gefilte fish. My mom did not. I have never met anyone who made their own matzoh.

Tonight's dinner is being catered by the local Jewish deli.

 
A Rabbi walks up and sits next to a blind man on a park bench. The Rabbi is eating a piece of matzoh. Wanting to share, he breaks off a piece and gives it to the blind man. A few minutes later, the blind man leans over, taps the Rabbi on the shoulder and asks, "who wrote this crap?!?"

 
My favorite Jewish holiday. Matzoh ball soup, gefilte fish, matzohs, and lots of sweet wine!
:X
Manischevitz. It grows on you.
Is this just because it's kosher/tradition, or could you have non-Manischevitz wine if it was blessed by a rabbi? I've always wondered about this.
First off, I'm a non-believer, so for me everything is traditional.

As for religious Jews, there are in general 3 kinds: reformed (the most liberal) conservative (which in the context means middle of the road) and orthodox (meaning strict.) Orthodox Jews are the only ones who keep kosher all the time. They are the Jews that you see who wear yarmulkes all the time (at least the men do.)

ETA- to answer your question I don't know. But it wouldn't feel right for me to have a different kind of wine for the Seder.

 
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Had a kick ### modern seder at home last night. Unlike the seder's of my youth where we "relaxed" by having a boring diatribe of a seder while waiting forever to eat, my wife and I actually had it in the living room, with red and white sangria for wine and some nice crispy skin vertically baked chicken with potatoes carrots and onions and salmon.

Wife did a great job, we did shots of kosher for passover raisin vodka after dinner and got a nice wasted on. This morning was rough.

 
Had a kick ### modern seder at home last night. Unlike the seder's of my youth where we "relaxed" by having a boring diatribe of a seder while waiting forever to eat, my wife and I actually had it in the living room, with red and white sangria for wine and some nice crispy skin vertically baked chicken with potatoes carrots and onions and salmon.

Wife did a great job, we did shots of kosher for passover raisin vodka after dinner and got a nice wasted on. This morning was rough.
Next year in the Betty Ford Clinic!

 
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Had a kick ### modern seder at home last night. Unlike the seder's of my youth where we "relaxed" by having a boring diatribe of a seder while waiting forever to eat, my wife and I actually had it in the living room, with red and white sangria for wine and some nice crispy skin vertically baked chicken with potatoes carrots and onions and salmon.

Wife did a great job, we did shots of kosher for passover raisin vodka after dinner and got a nice wasted on. This morning was rough.
Next year in the Betty Ford Clinic!
If they will help foot the bill, we'll provide the booze!

Passover is actually one of the few times a year that you are supposed to get a good buzz going - the seder itself has 4 or 5 glasses of wine that you are to drink.

 
Had a kick ### modern seder at home last night. Unlike the seder's of my youth where we "relaxed" by having a boring diatribe of a seder while waiting forever to eat, my wife and I actually had it in the living room, with red and white sangria for wine and some nice crispy skin vertically baked chicken with potatoes carrots and onions and salmon.

Wife did a great job, we did shots of kosher for passover raisin vodka after dinner and got a nice wasted on. This morning was rough.
Next year in the Betty Ford Clinic!
If they will help foot the bill, we'll provide the booze!

Passover is actually one of the few times a year that you are supposed to get a good buzz going - the seder itself has 4 or 5 glasses of wine that you are to drink.
I just can't do the midweek drunk thing. My message board posting would be even worse than it already is.

 
So you celebrate by eating cheap food and drinking cheap wine. good times.
Cheap food? Huh?
Exactly what I was thinking.
The Manischewitz wine is cheap and really bad. I mean really bad.

Which one will you be drinking Tim? Do you drink the Creams & Cordials? Ooof...
Normally it's concord grape. This year I dunno.

We used to celebrate every year at my mom's house, but she died the year before last. The last couple of years we've gone to the temple for a group affair. It's very nice.
My Father-in-Law is Jewish and I've never screwed my courage up sufficiently to ask him, how exactly do you pay for temple? Is it like reserving a seat? I'm too used to the Protestant method of guilting you into the collection plate.
I don't think there's any uniform rule. My local temple (reformed) where we're going tonight has an annual membership fee, but I only attend for the Passover dinner or for other special events. Tonight I'm paying $85 for myself, my wife and 2 daughters. That's a family rate. My father is paying $40 for himself.
Yup, everywhere I've seen it's just a straight up membership fee arrangement. You can attend most services without being a member obviously, but Jewish guilt is so powerful that it overwhelms even Jewish frugality and they collect what they need in annual dues without having to pass the plate and try to shame you into it.

 
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Had a kick ### modern seder at home last night. Unlike the seder's of my youth where we "relaxed" by having a boring diatribe of a seder while waiting forever to eat, my wife and I actually had it in the living room, with red and white sangria for wine and some nice crispy skin vertically baked chicken with potatoes carrots and onions and salmon.

Wife did a great job, we did shots of kosher for passover raisin vodka after dinner and got a nice wasted on. This morning was rough.
Next year in the Betty Ford Clinic!
If they will help foot the bill, we'll provide the booze!

Passover is actually one of the few times a year that you are supposed to get a good buzz going - the seder itself has 4 or 5 glasses of wine that you are to drink.
I just can't do the midweek drunk thing. My message board posting would be even worse than it already is.
In our defense, it was a BEGINNING of the week drunk thing. :banned:

Of course, it didn't help that other than my friend and his wife, who brought their kids and left before the real drinking began, I was 13+ years older than anyone else. Easy for the youngin's, not so much for me.

 
So you celebrate by eating cheap food and drinking cheap wine. good times.
Cheap food? Huh?
Exactly what I was thinking.
The Manischewitz wine is cheap and really bad. I mean really bad.

Which one will you be drinking Tim? Do you drink the Creams & Cordials? Ooof...
Normally it's concord grape. This year I dunno.

We used to celebrate every year at my mom's house, but she died the year before last. The last couple of years we've gone to the temple for a group affair. It's very nice.
My Father-in-Law is Jewish and I've never screwed my courage up sufficiently to ask him, how exactly do you pay for temple? Is it like reserving a seat? I'm too used to the Protestant method of guilting you into the collection plate.
I don't think there's any uniform rule. My local temple (reformed) where we're going tonight has an annual membership fee, but I only attend for the Passover dinner or for other special events. Tonight I'm paying $85 for myself, my wife and 2 daughters. That's a family rate. My father is paying $40 for himself.
Yup, everywhere I've seen it's just a straight up membership fee arrangement. You can attend most services without being a member obviously, but Jewish guilt is so powerful that it overwhelms even Jewish frugality and they collect what they need in annual dues without having to pass the plate and try to shame you into it.
Except of course for Rosh Hashannah and Yom Kippur. That's a member only situation. If you aren't very religious and your kids are not in Hebrew School, it is a tough pill to swallow to pay several grand a year to go to synagogue three times a year.

 
So you celebrate by eating cheap food and drinking cheap wine. good times.
Cheap food? Huh?
Exactly what I was thinking.
The Manischewitz wine is cheap and really bad. I mean really bad.

Which one will you be drinking Tim? Do you drink the Creams & Cordials? Ooof...
Normally it's concord grape. This year I dunno.

We used to celebrate every year at my mom's house, but she died the year before last. The last couple of years we've gone to the temple for a group affair. It's very nice.
My Father-in-Law is Jewish and I've never screwed my courage up sufficiently to ask him, how exactly do you pay for temple? Is it like reserving a seat? I'm too used to the Protestant method of guilting you into the collection plate.
I don't think there's any uniform rule. My local temple (reformed) where we're going tonight has an annual membership fee, but I only attend for the Passover dinner or for other special events. Tonight I'm paying $85 for myself, my wife and 2 daughters. That's a family rate. My father is paying $40 for himself.
Yup, everywhere I've seen it's just a straight up membership fee arrangement. You can attend most services without being a member obviously, but Jewish guilt is so powerful that it overwhelms even Jewish frugality and they collect what they need in annual dues without having to pass the plate and try to shame you into it.
Except of course for Rosh Hashannah and Yom Kippur. That's a member only situation. If you aren't very religious and your kids are not in Hebrew School, it is a tough pill to swallow to pay several grand a year to go to synagogue three times a year.
:o

 
When I was in college, the church I went to put on a Passover seder and we discussed how the symbolism from the elements in the meal can be used to draw parallels with Jesus. It's a very interesting ceremony/meal, but I have to say I'd do it again.

 
When I was in college, the church I went to put on a Passover seder and we discussed how the symbolism from the elements in the meal can be used to draw parallels with Jesus. It's a very interesting ceremony/meal, but I have to say I'd do it again.
How do you find Jesus?

I moved the charoset and there he was.

 
Had a kick ### modern seder at home last night. Unlike the seder's of my youth where we "relaxed" by having a boring diatribe of a seder while waiting forever to eat, my wife and I actually had it in the living room, with red and white sangria for wine and some nice crispy skin vertically baked chicken with potatoes carrots and onions and salmon.

Wife did a great job, we did shots of kosher for passover raisin vodka after dinner and got a nice wasted on. This morning was rough.
Next year in the Betty Ford Clinic!
If they will help foot the bill, we'll provide the booze!

Passover is actually one of the few times a year that you are supposed to get a good buzz going - the seder itself has 4 or 5 glasses of wine that you are to drink.
Even the Catholics could get behind this tradition.

 
South Florida has a lot of Jewish folks down here. So much so that they have Passover and kosher sections at the local food stores, whereas growing up in SE MI, we didn't have as many in town.

 
Had a kick ### modern seder at home last night. Unlike the seder's of my youth where we "relaxed" by having a boring diatribe of a seder while waiting forever to eat, my wife and I actually had it in the living room, with red and white sangria for wine and some nice crispy skin vertically baked chicken with potatoes carrots and onions and salmon.

Wife did a great job, we did shots of kosher for passover raisin vodka after dinner and got a nice wasted on. This morning was rough.
Next year in the Betty Ford Clinic!
If they will help foot the bill, we'll provide the booze!

Passover is actually one of the few times a year that you are supposed to get a good buzz going - the seder itself has 4 or 5 glasses of wine that you are to drink.
Even the Catholics could get behind this tradition.
It helps lessen the pain of drinking with the folks who killed your messiah.

 
So you celebrate by eating cheap food and drinking cheap wine. good times.
Cheap food? Huh?
Exactly what I was thinking.
The Manischewitz wine is cheap and really bad. I mean really bad.

Which one will you be drinking Tim? Do you drink the Creams & Cordials? Ooof...
Normally it's concord grape. This year I dunno.

We used to celebrate every year at my mom's house, but she died the year before last. The last couple of years we've gone to the temple for a group affair. It's very nice.
My Father-in-Law is Jewish and I've never screwed my courage up sufficiently to ask him, how exactly do you pay for temple? Is it like reserving a seat? I'm too used to the Protestant method of guilting you into the collection plate.
I don't think there's any uniform rule. My local temple (reformed) where we're going tonight has an annual membership fee, but I only attend for the Passover dinner or for other special events. Tonight I'm paying $85 for myself, my wife and 2 daughters. That's a family rate. My father is paying $40 for himself.
Yup, everywhere I've seen it's just a straight up membership fee arrangement. You can attend most services without being a member obviously, but Jewish guilt is so powerful that it overwhelms even Jewish frugality and they collect what they need in annual dues without having to pass the plate and try to shame you into it.
Except of course for Rosh Hashannah and Yom Kippur. That's a member only situation. If you aren't very religious and your kids are not in Hebrew School, it is a tough pill to swallow to pay several grand a year to go to synagogue three times a year.
:o
Yeah, having married into a Jewish family, this was a tough one for me. Economically, I get it (there are not the numbers to make the Temple stay afloat without a fee), but it is quite high ($2500 at ours in Raleigh). I can tell you that if you cannot afford the fee, they will usually cut you a break. Even some participation is huge when you think a Temple of 500 families averaging 2k in memberships annually is only $1 million/year to pay a couple of Rabbis, Cantors, staff, facilities, etc.

Our Temple got creative a couple of years back and rented out space to a fledgling church for a couple of years...very funny walking in there on a Sunday and hearing gospel music (I knid of liked it). It helped immensely with finances.

 
Had a kick ### modern seder at home last night. Unlike the seder's of my youth where we "relaxed" by having a boring diatribe of a seder while waiting forever to eat, my wife and I actually had it in the living room, with red and white sangria for wine and some nice crispy skin vertically baked chicken with potatoes carrots and onions and salmon.

Wife did a great job, we did shots of kosher for passover raisin vodka after dinner and got a nice wasted on. This morning was rough.
Next year in the Betty Ford Clinic!
If they will help foot the bill, we'll provide the booze!

Passover is actually one of the few times a year that you are supposed to get a good buzz going - the seder itself has 4 or 5 glasses of wine that you are to drink.
Even the Catholics could get behind this tradition.
It helps lessen the pain of drinking with the folks who killed your messiah.
We didn't kill Him. We asked the Romans to kill Him and cheered when they did. But that's not the same thing. And anyhow, I missed it.

 
Had a kick ### modern seder at home last night. Unlike the seder's of my youth where we "relaxed" by having a boring diatribe of a seder while waiting forever to eat, my wife and I actually had it in the living room, with red and white sangria for wine and some nice crispy skin vertically baked chicken with potatoes carrots and onions and salmon.

Wife did a great job, we did shots of kosher for passover raisin vodka after dinner and got a nice wasted on. This morning was rough.
Next year in the Betty Ford Clinic!
If they will help foot the bill, we'll provide the booze!

Passover is actually one of the few times a year that you are supposed to get a good buzz going - the seder itself has 4 or 5 glasses of wine that you are to drink.
Even the Catholics could get behind this tradition.
It helps lessen the pain of drinking with the folks who killed your messiah.
That and Catholics just like to drink. For whatever reason. I don't think they let a little incident like crucifixion stand in the way.

 
Yeah, having married into a Jewish family, this was a tough one for me. Economically, I get it (there are not the numbers to make the Temple stay afloat without a fee), but it is quite high ($2500 at ours in Raleigh). I can tell you that if you cannot afford the fee, they will usually cut you a break. Even some participation is huge when you think a Temple of 500 families averaging 2k in memberships annually is only $1 million/year to pay a couple of Rabbis, Cantors, staff, facilities, etc.

Our Temple got creative a couple of years back and rented out space to a fledgling church for a couple of years...very funny walking in there on a Sunday and hearing gospel music (I knid of liked it). It helped immensely with finances.
On the flip side of this equation, my Temple was burned down (arson) as a child. For the three years of rebuilding / construction, we held services and Hebrew school at a local church. Most of my Hebrew School memories happened in that church.

 
Yeah, having married into a Jewish family, this was a tough one for me. Economically, I get it (there are not the numbers to make the Temple stay afloat without a fee), but it is quite high ($2500 at ours in Raleigh). I can tell you that if you cannot afford the fee, they will usually cut you a break. Even some participation is huge when you think a Temple of 500 families averaging 2k in memberships annually is only $1 million/year to pay a couple of Rabbis, Cantors, staff, facilities, etc.

Our Temple got creative a couple of years back and rented out space to a fledgling church for a couple of years...very funny walking in there on a Sunday and hearing gospel music (I knid of liked it). It helped immensely with finances.
On the flip side of this equation, my Temple was burned down (arson) as a child. For the three years of rebuilding / construction, we held services and Hebrew school at a local church. Most of my Hebrew School memories happened in that church.
Hebrew school at a church? talk about combining the worst of all worlds

 
Yeah, having married into a Jewish family, this was a tough one for me. Economically, I get it (there are not the numbers to make the Temple stay afloat without a fee), but it is quite high ($2500 at ours in Raleigh). I can tell you that if you cannot afford the fee, they will usually cut you a break. Even some participation is huge when you think a Temple of 500 families averaging 2k in memberships annually is only $1 million/year to pay a couple of Rabbis, Cantors, staff, facilities, etc.

Our Temple got creative a couple of years back and rented out space to a fledgling church for a couple of years...very funny walking in there on a Sunday and hearing gospel music (I knid of liked it). It helped immensely with finances.
On the flip side of this equation, my Temple was burned down (arson) as a child. For the three years of rebuilding / construction, we held services and Hebrew school at a local church. Most of my Hebrew School memories happened in that church.
Hebrew school at a church? talk about combining the worst of all worlds
At least we had Bagels brought in.

 
Happy Passover! I miss my Columbia days when I was always invited to several seders. :(
did you ever move to Seattle? You'll need to go to Mercer Island to get invited to a seder. No jews in Seattle...
Just moved two months ago. :thumbup:

Yes, it's very...un-diverse here.
when we were looking at housing, our realtor was showing us homes on Mercer Island and she said "Mercer Island has a high concentration of synagogues". I said you means that's where the Jews live? She just repeated the high concentration of synagogues line. I found it really funny. So, now I tell that to people when discussing Mercer Island.

 
Yeah, having married into a Jewish family, this was a tough one for me. Economically, I get it (there are not the numbers to make the Temple stay afloat without a fee), but it is quite high ($2500 at ours in Raleigh). I can tell you that if you cannot afford the fee, they will usually cut you a break. Even some participation is huge when you think a Temple of 500 families averaging 2k in memberships annually is only $1 million/year to pay a couple of Rabbis, Cantors, staff, facilities, etc.

Our Temple got creative a couple of years back and rented out space to a fledgling church for a couple of years...very funny walking in there on a Sunday and hearing gospel music (I knid of liked it). It helped immensely with finances.
On the flip side of this equation, my Temple was burned down (arson) as a child. For the three years of rebuilding / construction, we held services and Hebrew school at a local church. Most of my Hebrew School memories happened in that church.
Hebrew school at a church? talk about combining the worst of all worlds
At least we had Bagels brought in.
When I was growing up a lot of the smaller temples had high holidays at churches so they could pack it in in a bigger venue. They would put a giant sheet in front of the cross.

 
Yeah, having married into a Jewish family, this was a tough one for me. Economically, I get it (there are not the numbers to make the Temple stay afloat without a fee), but it is quite high ($2500 at ours in Raleigh). I can tell you that if you cannot afford the fee, they will usually cut you a break. Even some participation is huge when you think a Temple of 500 families averaging 2k in memberships annually is only $1 million/year to pay a couple of Rabbis, Cantors, staff, facilities, etc.

Our Temple got creative a couple of years back and rented out space to a fledgling church for a couple of years...very funny walking in there on a Sunday and hearing gospel music (I knid of liked it). It helped immensely with finances.
On the flip side of this equation, my Temple was burned down (arson) as a child. For the three years of rebuilding / construction, we held services and Hebrew school at a local church. Most of my Hebrew School memories happened in that church.
Hebrew school at a church? talk about combining the worst of all worlds
At least we had Bagels brought in.
When I was growing up a lot of the smaller temples had high holidays at churches so they could pack it in in a bigger venue. They would put a giant sheet in front of the cross.
Guilt.

 
Yeah, having married into a Jewish family, this was a tough one for me. Economically, I get it (there are not the numbers to make the Temple stay afloat without a fee), but it is quite high ($2500 at ours in Raleigh). I can tell you that if you cannot afford the fee, they will usually cut you a break. Even some participation is huge when you think a Temple of 500 families averaging 2k in memberships annually is only $1 million/year to pay a couple of Rabbis, Cantors, staff, facilities, etc.

Our Temple got creative a couple of years back and rented out space to a fledgling church for a couple of years...very funny walking in there on a Sunday and hearing gospel music (I knid of liked it). It helped immensely with finances.
On the flip side of this equation, my Temple was burned down (arson) as a child. For the three years of rebuilding / construction, we held services and Hebrew school at a local church. Most of my Hebrew School memories happened in that church.
Hebrew school at a church? talk about combining the worst of all worlds
At least we had Bagels brought in.
When I was growing up a lot of the smaller temples had high holidays at churches so they could pack it in in a bigger venue. They would put a giant sheet in front of the cross.
Guilt.
Jews?

 
Fennis said:
krista4 said:
Fennis said:
krista4 said:
Happy Passover! I miss my Columbia days when I was always invited to several seders. :(
did you ever move to Seattle? You'll need to go to Mercer Island to get invited to a seder. No jews in Seattle...
Just moved two months ago. :thumbup:

Yes, it's very...un-diverse here.
when we were looking at housing, our realtor was showing us homes on Mercer Island and she said "Mercer Island has a high concentration of synagogues". I said you means that's where the Jews live? She just repeated the high concentration of synagogues line. I found it really funny. So, now I tell that to people when discussing Mercer Island.
Wow.

 
Fennis said:
krista4 said:
Fennis said:
krista4 said:
Happy Passover! I miss my Columbia days when I was always invited to several seders. :(
did you ever move to Seattle? You'll need to go to Mercer Island to get invited to a seder. No jews in Seattle...
Just moved two months ago. :thumbup:

Yes, it's very...un-diverse here.
when we were looking at housing, our realtor was showing us homes on Mercer Island and she said "Mercer Island has a high concentration of synagogues". I said you means that's where the Jews live? She just repeated the high concentration of synagogues line. I found it really funny. So, now I tell that to people when discussing Mercer Island.
Wow.
Yeah, not so subtle steering there. She wouldn't go further because as is she was probably stepping over the technical legal line of her profession.

That said, I'm surprised there's not a larger Jewish population in Seattle - there are more Jews in Portland I believe after a quick check.

 

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