Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Book 7 (2 Viewers)

[Challenge Everything]

50 DAYS REMAINING!!!!

 

[thayman]

Harry Potter Theme Park Headed to Fla.

Thursday May 31 10:53 AM ET

Universal Studios is opening up a Harry Potter theme park in Florida complete with the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, the Forbidden Forest and Hogsmeade village.

"The Wizarding World of Harry Potter," will open in late 2009 in Orlando, officials said Thursday.

"The plans I've seen look incredibly exciting, and I don't think fans of the books or films will be disappointed," said author J.K. Rowling, who has been working with a creative team to make sure the park resembles the books and films.

More than a dozen artists and designers lead by Stuart Craig, the production designer of the movies, have set up house in the studio where the movies are being filmed to make sure every detail is considered, according to Scott Trowbridge of Universal.

"We're really going to the people who know this world best to ensure that level of authenticity," he said.

The Potter park will allow visitors to view the iconic locations in Rowling's magical world, like Dumbledore's office in Hogwarts and the shops in Hogsmeade. Some locations may be in upcoming books, Trowbridge said.

Trowbridge said while there would not be any character lookalikes at the park, fans wanting to see Harry Potter and his magical friends wouldn't leave disappointed.

"This is Harry's world," said Trowbridge. "Most every fan wants to have an encounter with the star of the show."

The Harry Potter book series has been translated into 65 languages with more than 325 million copies sold in over 200 territories around the world.

The fifth film in the series, "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix," will be released in theatres on 13 July. The seventh and final book of the series will be released on 21 July.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/2007053...8063398001.html

 

[Sack-Religious]

Swedish Deathly Hallows translation may give cluesTilden, the Swedish Potter publisher, has revealed on their official website that JK Rowling has provided an alternative DH title to foreign countries: Harry Potter and the Relics of Death. The second title was released by Jo and Bloomsbury because the phrase "Deathly Hallows" is hard to translate without being able to read the novel.Relics of Death can easily translate to dödsrelikerna, and now many are speculating over exactly what these relics are. Thanks to everyone who e-mailed with this information!

Hmmm. To me, a Horcrux is a "relic of death" and since this book is apparently focusing on Harry's search for the remaining Horcruxes it makes sense to me. As far as speculation, I would think that most fans of the HP franchise are speculating on what the Horcruxes may be.Maybe it's just me, though.

 

[Sack-Religious]

Just throwing it out there.Is it possible that Nagini is the same snake that Harry let out of the zoo back in the Philospher's Stone?

I don't think so, and I don't see how that would affect the plot.

Fair enough. However, given JKR's penchant for foreshadowing it wouldn't surprise me that one of Harry's first "magical" actions was freeing the very snake that becomes a servant to Voldemort. It doesn't necessarily have to affect or further the plot, but there could be a time in the last book where Harry comes face to face with Nagini and there is a moment of recognition, which could affect where the story is going.

I could see a slight possibility that this is the case, but I think it's unlikely for three reasons: 1. I think Voldemort has had Nagini longer than Harry has been alive, but this is not necessarily true. 2. I think Harry would've felt something more familiar when he saw things from the perspective of the snake. 3. I think that the snake Harry released was a good snake, whereas Nagini is clearly evil. Also, I am firmly in the "Nagini is a horcrux" camp, so I think that Harry remembering Nagini might make him more difficult to kill, which would be an unpleasant plot twist.

Fair enough. I'm re-reading the series right now and I'm pretty sure it's in Goblet of Fire that Voldemort, when he's explaining his life since the curse rebounded, indicated that he was basically a spirit and could posess small snakes but they were to small and weak etc. Then one day when he was in the forest this grand snake crossed paths with him. I forget now, if this was soon after he lost most of his powers or later. Since Nagini doesn't show up until later in the books I theorize that it may be the same snake, fully admitting I could be dead wrong.Whether the snake Harry released was good doesn't really factor into the equation for me since if Voldemort can posess it or enchant/bewitch it, it would more than likely take a more evil slant.We're going to have to agree to disagree on Nagini being a Horcrux. I agree that it could be a possibility, but I'm not sure if live objects can be a Horcrux and I'm not sure what significant death/killing would have resulted in Voldemort making Nagini a horcrux. Especially since Nagini came into Voldemort's services in what appears to have been a much later timeframe than the original Horcruxes were created.I don't recall Harry coming "face to face" with Nagini so far in the series. He sees the body of the snake as it kills Frank the Riddle estate caretaker and Nagini circles him when he's bound to the tombstone as Voldemort regains physical form in GOF and he sees Nagini attack Arthur Weasley through the snakes eyes in OOTF. I'm halfway through OOTF right now, so I can't say for certain that Harry doesn't come "face to face" with Nagini later in that book or in HBP, but I think it would create a very intersting dynamic if he does come face to face with Nagini in the final book and there is recognition.

 

[Sack-Religious]

Harry Potter Theme Park Headed to Fla.

Thursday May 31 10:53 AM ET

Universal Studios is opening up a Harry Potter theme park in Florida complete with the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, the Forbidden Forest and Hogsmeade village.

"The Wizarding World of Harry Potter," will open in late 2009 in Orlando, officials said Thursday.

"The plans I've seen look incredibly exciting, and I don't think fans of the books or films will be disappointed," said author J.K. Rowling, who has been working with a creative team to make sure the park resembles the books and films.

More than a dozen artists and designers lead by Stuart Craig, the production designer of the movies, have set up house in the studio where the movies are being filmed to make sure every detail is considered, according to Scott Trowbridge of Universal.

"We're really going to the people who know this world best to ensure that level of authenticity," he said.

The Potter park will allow visitors to view the iconic locations in Rowling's magical world, like Dumbledore's office in Hogwarts and the shops in Hogsmeade. Some locations may be in upcoming books, Trowbridge said.

Trowbridge said while there would not be any character lookalikes at the park, fans wanting to see Harry Potter and his magical friends wouldn't leave disappointed.

"This is Harry's world," said Trowbridge. "Most every fan wants to have an encounter with the star of the show."

The Harry Potter book series has been translated into 65 languages with more than 325 million copies sold in over 200 territories around the world.

The fifth film in the series, "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix," will be released in theatres on 13 July. The seventh and final book of the series will be released on 21 July.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/2007053...8063398001.html

I'm enough to go there, eventually, probably when my son is old enough to get into the books. I absolutely have to try Butterbeer.Wouldn't surprise me of you didn't enter the park through a Gate 9 3/4 and instead of a monorail you ride the Hogwarts Express around the park. I anticipate a Gringott's Vaults roller coaster that could be very, very good.

 

[TheFanatic]

We're going to have to agree to disagree on Nagini being a Horcrux. I agree that it could be a possibility, but I'm not sure if live objects can be a Horcrux and I'm not sure what significant death/killing would have resulted in Voldemort making Nagini a horcrux. Especially since Nagini came into Voldemort's services in what appears to have been a much later timeframe than the original Horcruxes were created.

Yes they can. Dumbledore said so in the last book. I think it would explain a lot if Nagani is a Horcrux. The diary had a conscienceness of it's own because of the part of Voldy's soul. Nagani is much smarter than just a snake and having part of voldy's soul could be the cause of that.

 

[igbomb]

Harry Potter Theme Park Headed to Fla.

Thursday May 31 10:53 AM ET

Universal Studios is opening up a Harry Potter theme park in Florida complete with the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, the Forbidden Forest and Hogsmeade village.

"The Wizarding World of Harry Potter," will open in late 2009 in Orlando, officials said Thursday.

"The plans I've seen look incredibly exciting, and I don't think fans of the books or films will be disappointed," said author J.K. Rowling, who has been working with a creative team to make sure the park resembles the books and films.

More than a dozen artists and designers lead by Stuart Craig, the production designer of the movies, have set up house in the studio where the movies are being filmed to make sure every detail is considered, according to Scott Trowbridge of Universal.

"We're really going to the people who know this world best to ensure that level of authenticity," he said.

The Potter park will allow visitors to view the iconic locations in Rowling's magical world, like Dumbledore's office in Hogwarts and the shops in Hogsmeade. Some locations may be in upcoming books, Trowbridge said.

Trowbridge said while there would not be any character lookalikes at the park, fans wanting to see Harry Potter and his magical friends wouldn't leave disappointed.

"This is Harry's world," said Trowbridge. "Most every fan wants to have an encounter with the star of the show."

The Harry Potter book series has been translated into 65 languages with more than 325 million copies sold in over 200 territories around the world.

The fifth film in the series, "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix," will be released in theatres on 13 July. The seventh and final book of the series will be released on 21 July.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/2007053...8063398001.html

More info:Among the details revealed were:

This new theme park will include facets such as a Hogsmeade section, the Forbidden Forest, and even Hogwarts Castle where you will actually be able to walk inside a replication of the beloved castle.

J.K. Rowling is described as having been "very involved" in the creating and planning of this park since the begining, and is very supportive of this new park.

Mr. Craig has been actively designing the project starting in January of this year, while Universal has been planning for two years previously.

There will be many types of rides some "intense", shopping, and more, as well as a brand new state of the art attraction.

A "British" environment is to be maintained, including the food served, and mannerisms of the staff.

The park is aimed at fans of both the movies and books, geared for fans of all ages or as they said " 7 to 67"

Will incorporate elements of all the Harry Potter novels, books one through seven.

A more expansive and complete look of the total environment of Hogsmeade is likely.

The public can register for email alerts via this link.

 

[Joseph]

Something that's been sort of bothering me for a while now thinking about what is going to happen in this book, and who's going to die and all.

For the people who think good guy x will gain his revenge against death eater y by killing them, how does a good wizard kill someone?

So far the only means of killing we've seen by magic is avada kedarva, which is an evil spell, and wouldn't be used by any of the main characters.

So how is Neville going to kill Bellatrix? or Harry vs Snape? Even Harry vs. Voldemort?

It seems like a lot of the bad guys need to die in this book, but I can't figure out how it could happen without having a plethora of redundant, "levitating a heavy object to crush someone into a wall" type deaths.

 

[(HULK)]

100% they don't kill Harry.

Not with the themepark coming.

Harry has to live so he can be at the themepark.

 

[Sack-Religious]

We're going to have to agree to disagree on Nagini being a Horcrux. I agree that it could be a possibility, but I'm not sure if live objects can be a Horcrux and I'm not sure what significant death/killing would have resulted in Voldemort making Nagini a horcrux. Especially since Nagini came into Voldemort's services in what appears to have been a much later timeframe than the original Horcruxes were created.

Yes they can. Dumbledore said so in the last book. I think it would explain a lot if Nagani is a Horcrux. The diary had a conscienceness of it's own because of the part of Voldy's soul. Nagani is much smarter than just a snake and having part of voldy's soul could be the cause of that.

Thanks for the clarification. It's been a while since I read HBP so my memory's a little hazy on it.I agree that Nagini is much smarter than your average snake, but if you can speak to a snake in Parseltongue and possibly posess or bewitch it, that could explain the heightened state of awareness it has. Remember in OOTP when Harry sees Nagini attack Arthur Weasley through the snakes eyes? I interpreted that as Harry seeing through Voldemorts eyes (as Voldemort was posessing or commanding Nagini at that time) using what I can only describe as a form of Legilimency.

Don't forget also that the Marauder's Map that Harry's dad, Sirius, Lupin and Pettigrew created also had a conscienceness of it's own and it didn't have part of their souls in it, like a horcrux did. The Map doesn't have nearly the magical power of Riddle's Diary, but it did show conscienceness when Snape was trying to get it to work.

 

[TheFanatic]

Don't forget also that the Marauder's Map that Harry's dad, Sirius, Lupin and Pettigrew created also had a conscienceness of it's own and it didn't have part of their souls in it, like a horcrux did. The Map doesn't have nearly the magical power of Riddle's Diary, but it did show conscienceness when Snape was trying to get it to work.

The Marauder Map has some intelligence. Not a conscienceness. Remember, Mrs. Weasley told Harry to be leery of anything that has magic or intelligence that can't be accounted for or know where it came from. The Diary had that and so much more. The Map doesn't make decisions. It just monitors the castle. It does what the original enchantment told it to do. It doesn't go beyond that like the diary....

 

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I'm pretty sure ron is gay for harry

 

[TheFanatic]

' date='Jun 1 2007, 10:20 AM' post='6827081']I'm pretty sure ron is gay for harry

Thanks for sharing...

 

[aardball44]

I'm pretty sure ron is gay for harry

I just returned from New Orleans, host of the 2007 Phoenix Rising symposium -- aka a Harry Potter convention. One of the panel discussions ("From Fan To Fandom") focused on the exhorbitant amount of "slash" fan fiction surrounding the Boy Wizard and his friends. ("Slash fiction" originated in Star Trek fanzines in the 70s with fan-written erotic stories involving Kirk and Spock, or Kirk/Spock -- ergo, slash fiction. )The Harry/Ron stories are tame compared to the Harry/Draco stories, the Draco/Lucius stories and the multiple-combination Weasley couplings known more familiarly as "Weasley-cest". These stories are written and read almost exclusively by straight women, BTW.

I suggested a slash coupling between Hagrid and the Whomping Willow. A submissive half-giant and a sadistic tree = SPEED, IMO.

 

[(HULK)]

100% they don't kill Harry.Not with the themepark coming.Harry has to live so he can be at the themepark.

 

[Sack-Religious]

Don't forget also that the Marauder's Map that Harry's dad, Sirius, Lupin and Pettigrew created also had a conscienceness of it's own and it didn't have part of their souls in it, like a horcrux did. The Map doesn't have nearly the magical power of Riddle's Diary, but it did show conscienceness when Snape was trying to get it to work.

The Marauder Map has some intelligence. Not a conscienceness. Remember, Mrs. Weasley told Harry to be leery of anything that has magic or intelligence that can't be accounted for or know where it came from. The Diary had that and so much more. The Map doesn't make decisions. It just monitors the castle. It does what the original enchantment told it to do. It doesn't go beyond that like the diary....

The map, for lack of a better term, spoke to Snape as he confiscated it from Harry in POA. He was asking it to work and words appeared from Mooney, Padfoot, Wormtail and Prongs that suggest a conscienceness. Something to the effect of "Mssr Padfoot would like to express his astonishment that Snape could ever become a professor," "Mssr Mooney would advise Professor Snape to keep his sizable nose out of other's business" and other insults about washing his hair and him being ugly, etc. It would appear that the map retained an echo of it's creator's personalities that can "speak" in real time.

 

[aardball44]

Don't forget also that the Marauder's Map that Harry's dad, Sirius, Lupin and Pettigrew created also had a conscienceness of it's own and it didn't have part of their souls in it, like a horcrux did. The Map doesn't have nearly the magical power of Riddle's Diary, but it did show conscienceness when Snape was trying to get it to work.

The Marauder Map has some intelligence. Not a conscienceness. Remember, Mrs. Weasley told Harry to be leery of anything that has magic or intelligence that can't be accounted for or know where it came from. The Diary had that and so much more. The Map doesn't make decisions. It just monitors the castle. It does what the original enchantment told it to do. It doesn't go beyond that like the diary....

The map, for lack of a better term, spoke to Snape as he confiscated it from Harry in POA. He was asking it to work and words appeared from Mooney, Padfoot, Wormtail and Prongs that suggest a conscienceness. Something to the effect of "Mssr Padfoot would like to express his astonishment that Snape could ever become a professor," "Mssr Mooney would advise Professor Snape to keep his sizable nose out of other's business" and other insults about washing his hair and him being ugly, etc. It would appear that the map retained an echo of it's creator's personalities that can "speak" in real time.

I disagree. It's more likely Mooney, Padfoot, Wormtail and Prongs included those messages in the original spell, knowing Snape might eventually get his hands on the map and investigate it.

 

[TheFanatic]

Don't forget also that the Marauder's Map that Harry's dad, Sirius, Lupin and Pettigrew created also had a conscienceness of it's own and it didn't have part of their souls in it, like a horcrux did. The Map doesn't have nearly the magical power of Riddle's Diary, but it did show conscienceness when Snape was trying to get it to work.

The Marauder Map has some intelligence. Not a conscienceness. Remember, Mrs. Weasley told Harry to be leery of anything that has magic or intelligence that can't be accounted for or know where it came from. The Diary had that and so much more. The Map doesn't make decisions. It just monitors the castle. It does what the original enchantment told it to do. It doesn't go beyond that like the diary....

The map, for lack of a better term, spoke to Snape as he confiscated it from Harry in POA. He was asking it to work and words appeared from Mooney, Padfoot, Wormtail and Prongs that suggest a conscienceness. Something to the effect of "Mssr Padfoot would like to express his astonishment that Snape could ever become a professor," "Mssr Mooney would advise Professor Snape to keep his sizable nose out of other's business" and other insults about washing his hair and him being ugly, etc. It would appear that the map retained an echo of it's creator's personalities that can "speak" in real time.

I disagree. It's more likely Mooney, Padfoot, Wormtail and Prongs included those messages in the original spell, knowing Snape might eventually get his hands on the map and investigate it.

I don't. I think SR has a good point. I forgot about that....

 

[Joseph]

Don't forget also that the Marauder's Map that Harry's dad, Sirius, Lupin and Pettigrew created also had a conscienceness of it's own and it didn't have part of their souls in it, like a horcrux did. The Map doesn't have nearly the magical power of Riddle's Diary, but it did show conscienceness when Snape was trying to get it to work.

The Marauder Map has some intelligence. Not a conscienceness. Remember, Mrs. Weasley told Harry to be leery of anything that has magic or intelligence that can't be accounted for or know where it came from. The Diary had that and so much more. The Map doesn't make decisions. It just monitors the castle. It does what the original enchantment told it to do. It doesn't go beyond that like the diary....

The map, for lack of a better term, spoke to Snape as he confiscated it from Harry in POA. He was asking it to work and words appeared from Mooney, Padfoot, Wormtail and Prongs that suggest a conscienceness. Something to the effect of "Mssr Padfoot would like to express his astonishment that Snape could ever become a professor," "Mssr Mooney would advise Professor Snape to keep his sizable nose out of other's business" and other insults about washing his hair and him being ugly, etc. It would appear that the map retained an echo of it's creator's personalities that can "speak" in real time.

I disagree. It's more likely Mooney, Padfoot, Wormtail and Prongs included those messages in the original spell, knowing Snape might eventually get his hands on the map and investigate it.

I don't. I think SR has a good point. I forgot about that....

That scene always read to me a bit like a computer program. Somehow the scroll was able to identify that the person trying to access it was known Professor Snape and spit back pre-made insults once it identified the user.

 

[texasyankee]

Don't forget also that the Marauder's Map that Harry's dad, Sirius, Lupin and Pettigrew created also had a conscienceness of it's own and it didn't have part of their souls in it, like a horcrux did. The Map doesn't have nearly the magical power of Riddle's Diary, but it did show conscienceness when Snape was trying to get it to work.

The Marauder Map has some intelligence. Not a conscienceness. Remember, Mrs. Weasley told Harry to be leery of anything that has magic or intelligence that can't be accounted for or know where it came from. The Diary had that and so much more. The Map doesn't make decisions. It just monitors the castle. It does what the original enchantment told it to do. It doesn't go beyond that like the diary....

The map, for lack of a better term, spoke to Snape as he confiscated it from Harry in POA. He was asking it to work and words appeared from Mooney, Padfoot, Wormtail and Prongs that suggest a conscienceness. Something to the effect of "Mssr Padfoot would like to express his astonishment that Snape could ever become a professor," "Mssr Mooney would advise Professor Snape to keep his sizable nose out of other's business" and other insults about washing his hair and him being ugly, etc. It would appear that the map retained an echo of it's creator's personalities that can "speak" in real time.

I disagree. It's more likely Mooney, Padfoot, Wormtail and Prongs included those messages in the original spell, knowing Snape might eventually get his hands on the map and investigate it.

I don't. I think SR has a good point. I forgot about that....

I think this was put in for a laugh and you are looking for too much meaning

 

[TheFanatic]

I think this was put in for a laugh and you are looking for too much meaning

I could see that....

 

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I suggested a slash coupling between Hagrid and the Whomping Willow. A submissive half-giant and a sadistic tree = SPEED, IMO.

GENIUSOr what about Cho in a Massage parlor setting with Dumbledore as the customer? Perhaps some sort of confusion regarding what sort of parlor it was... maybe 'dore is there for a theraputic massage and Cho surrpises him when she gets down to business?

 

[KarmaPolice]

This is from Chap. 36 of GOF:

"He said my blood would make him stronger than if he'd used someone else's," Harry told Dumbledore. "He said that the protection my --- my mother left me --- he'd have it too. And he was right -- he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face."

For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore's eyes.

Not sure what to make of that. I've read interviews where she's stated that this look from Dumbledore is very imoportant.

Interesting. I just finished re-reading GOF and that passage stuck out to me, as well. I may have taken it too literally, but I thought Dumbledore had that look because he realized that Voldemort still didn't undertstand the "ancient and powerful magic" that protects Harry and that it would make him vulnerable and over-confident.

Harry's protection is/was based on love. I've always interpreted this to mean that Voldemort has basically infected himself with some essence humanity. From the beginning there has been a part of Voldemort in Harry, but until he used Harry's blood to resurrect himself that wasn't true the other way. I think the look of triumph shows that Dumbledore knows that the playing field has been leveled, and that there is now something good in Voldemort that can be exploited in the final confrontation.

That is what I've been thinking about since just re-reading books 5 and 6. Here are things that keep popping into my head:1. the look of triumph in DD's eyes in book 4 when he heard that Voldemort used Harry's blood for the spell.

2. a couple of times when they have looked at Snape's and Voldemort's memories, it has seemed as though Harry has been able to associate with their situation and even start feeling sorry for them.

3. there is a line in the movie for POA where Lupin (I think) tells Harry that his mother was always able to "see" the good in people even when they couldn't see it themselves. (is this why harry's eyes being like his mothers' keeps getting repeated over and over?)

IMO, as other's have stated, this points to Harry seeing something good in Voldemort at the end that can be exploited to kill him. Since Harry doesn't seem to be able to do an unforgivable curse, I think that it'll be Voldemort killing himself with a backfired curse somehow. So maybe: Harry showing him mercy/love and laying down his wand at the end. Harry saving Snape from a curse of Volde's and the curse bouncing off again, etc.... Basically I don't think that Harry will/can kill him directly - Voldemort will effectively kill himself.

 

[Gatorman]

Harry Potter Theme Park Headed to Fla.

Thursday May 31 10:53 AM ET

Universal Studios is opening up a Harry Potter theme park in Florida complete with the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, the Forbidden Forest and Hogsmeade village.

"The Wizarding World of Harry Potter," will open in late 2009 in Orlando, officials said Thursday.

"The plans I've seen look incredibly exciting, and I don't think fans of the books or films will be disappointed," said author J.K. Rowling, who has been working with a creative team to make sure the park resembles the books and films.

More than a dozen artists and designers lead by Stuart Craig, the production designer of the movies, have set up house in the studio where the movies are being filmed to make sure every detail is considered, according to Scott Trowbridge of Universal.

"We're really going to the people who know this world best to ensure that level of authenticity," he said.

The Potter park will allow visitors to view the iconic locations in Rowling's magical world, like Dumbledore's office in Hogwarts and the shops in Hogsmeade. Some locations may be in upcoming books, Trowbridge said.

Trowbridge said while there would not be any character lookalikes at the park, fans wanting to see Harry Potter and his magical friends wouldn't leave disappointed.

"This is Harry's world," said Trowbridge. "Most every fan wants to have an encounter with the star of the show."

The Harry Potter book series has been translated into 65 languages with more than 325 million copies sold in over 200 territories around the world.

The fifth film in the series, "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix," will be released in theatres on 13 July. The seventh and final book of the series will be released on 21 July.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/2007053...8063398001.html

More info:Among the details revealed were:

This new theme park will include facets such as a Hogsmeade section, the Forbidden Forest, and even Hogwarts Castle where you will actually be able to walk inside a replication of the beloved castle.

J.K. Rowling is described as having been "very involved" in the creating and planning of this park since the begining, and is very supportive of this new park.

Mr. Craig has been actively designing the project starting in January of this year, while Universal has been planning for two years previously.

There will be many types of rides some "intense", shopping, and more, as well as a brand new state of the art attraction.

A "British" environment is to be maintained, including the food served, and mannerisms of the staff.

The park is aimed at fans of both the movies and books, geared for fans of all ages or as they said " 7 to 67"

Will incorporate elements of all the Harry Potter novels, books one through seven.

A more expansive and complete look of the total environment of Hogsmeade is likely.

The public can register for email alerts via this link.

In some ways I look forward to this, but in others I really don't. Universal's theme parks are very cheap when it comes to the "imagineering" of the venues. Disney really kicks their butt in this regard. I can see a Harry potter themepark being a place you only see once when built by universal while if Disney built it it would be another magic kingdom. That being said, I am sure the rides will be better (or at least more entertaining for people over 12) if Universal builds them.I really hope they don't screw this up. Both universal properties are 1/2 day parks at best and have no shade or places to chill out in.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

This is from Chap. 36 of GOF:

"He said my blood would make him stronger than if he'd used someone else's," Harry told Dumbledore. "He said that the protection my --- my mother left me --- he'd have it too. And he was right -- he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face."

For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore's eyes.

Not sure what to make of that. I've read interviews where she's stated that this look from Dumbledore is very imoportant.

Interesting. I just finished re-reading GOF and that passage stuck out to me, as well. I may have taken it too literally, but I thought Dumbledore had that look because he realized that Voldemort still didn't undertstand the "ancient and powerful magic" that protects Harry and that it would make him vulnerable and over-confident.

Harry's protection is/was based on love. I've always interpreted this to mean that Voldemort has basically infected himself with some essence humanity. From the beginning there has been a part of Voldemort in Harry, but until he used Harry's blood to resurrect himself that wasn't true the other way. I think the look of triumph shows that Dumbledore knows that the playing field has been leveled, and that there is now something good in Voldemort that can be exploited in the final confrontation.

That is what I've been thinking about since just re-reading books 5 and 6. Here are things that keep popping into my head:1. the look of triumph in DD's eyes in book 4 when he heard that Voldemort used Harry's blood for the spell.

2. a couple of times when they have looked at Snape's and Voldemort's memories, it has seemed as though Harry has been able to associate with their situation and even start feeling sorry for them.

3. there is a line in the movie for POA where Lupin (I think) tells Harry that his mother was always able to "see" the good in people even when they couldn't see it themselves. (is this why harry's eyes being like his mothers' keeps getting repeated over and over?)

IMO, as other's have stated, this points to Harry seeing something good in Voldemort at the end that can be exploited to kill him. Since Harry doesn't seem to be able to do an unforgivable curse, I think that it'll be Voldemort killing himself with a backfired curse somehow. So maybe: Harry showing him mercy/love and laying down his wand at the end. Harry saving Snape from a curse of Volde's and the curse bouncing off again, etc.... Basically I don't think that Harry will/can kill him directly - Voldemort will effectively kill himself.

I think the thing with the eyes and Harry's blood in Voldemort are definitely connected.

I also think that Voldemort will undo himself somehow in a repeat of the original encounter with Harry. He believed that he would make himself stronger by taking Harry's blood, just as he believed that killing Harry to make the final Horcrux would make him stronger. His overconfidence is bound to be his undoing.

 

[TheFanatic]

This is from Chap. 36 of GOF:

"He said my blood would make him stronger than if he'd used someone else's," Harry told Dumbledore. "He said that the protection my --- my mother left me --- he'd have it too. And he was right -- he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face."

For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore's eyes.

Not sure what to make of that. I've read interviews where she's stated that this look from Dumbledore is very imoportant.

Interesting. I just finished re-reading GOF and that passage stuck out to me, as well. I may have taken it too literally, but I thought Dumbledore had that look because he realized that Voldemort still didn't undertstand the "ancient and powerful magic" that protects Harry and that it would make him vulnerable and over-confident.

Harry's protection is/was based on love. I've always interpreted this to mean that Voldemort has basically infected himself with some essence humanity. From the beginning there has been a part of Voldemort in Harry, but until he used Harry's blood to resurrect himself that wasn't true the other way. I think the look of triumph shows that Dumbledore knows that the playing field has been leveled, and that there is now something good in Voldemort that can be exploited in the final confrontation.

That is what I've been thinking about since just re-reading books 5 and 6. Here are things that keep popping into my head:1. the look of triumph in DD's eyes in book 4 when he heard that Voldemort used Harry's blood for the spell.

2. a couple of times when they have looked at Snape's and Voldemort's memories, it has seemed as though Harry has been able to associate with their situation and even start feeling sorry for them.

3. there is a line in the movie for POA where Lupin (I think) tells Harry that his mother was always able to "see" the good in people even when they couldn't see it themselves. (is this why harry's eyes being like his mothers' keeps getting repeated over and over?)

IMO, as other's have stated, this points to Harry seeing something good in Voldemort at the end that can be exploited to kill him. Since Harry doesn't seem to be able to do an unforgivable curse, I think that it'll be Voldemort killing himself with a backfired curse somehow. So maybe: Harry showing him mercy/love and laying down his wand at the end. Harry saving Snape from a curse of Volde's and the curse bouncing off again, etc.... Basically I don't think that Harry will/can kill him directly - Voldemort will effectively kill himself.

I think the thing with the eyes and Harry's blood in Voldemort are definitely connected.

I also think that Voldemort will undo himself somehow in a repeat of the original encounter with Harry. He believed that he would make himself stronger by taking Harry's blood, just as he believed that killing Harry to make the final Horcrux would make him stronger. His overconfidence is bound to be his undoing.

Both posts here are great. And this would really make it so that LV dies but Harry doesn't have to cast the unforgiveable curse....

 

[KarmaPolice]

This is from Chap. 36 of GOF:

"He said my blood would make him stronger than if he'd used someone else's," Harry told Dumbledore. "He said that the protection my --- my mother left me --- he'd have it too. And he was right -- he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face."

For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore's eyes.

Not sure what to make of that. I've read interviews where she's stated that this look from Dumbledore is very imoportant.

Interesting. I just finished re-reading GOF and that passage stuck out to me, as well. I may have taken it too literally, but I thought Dumbledore had that look because he realized that Voldemort still didn't undertstand the "ancient and powerful magic" that protects Harry and that it would make him vulnerable and over-confident.

Harry's protection is/was based on love. I've always interpreted this to mean that Voldemort has basically infected himself with some essence humanity. From the beginning there has been a part of Voldemort in Harry, but until he used Harry's blood to resurrect himself that wasn't true the other way. I think the look of triumph shows that Dumbledore knows that the playing field has been leveled, and that there is now something good in Voldemort that can be exploited in the final confrontation.

That is what I've been thinking about since just re-reading books 5 and 6. Here are things that keep popping into my head:1. the look of triumph in DD's eyes in book 4 when he heard that Voldemort used Harry's blood for the spell.

2. a couple of times when they have looked at Snape's and Voldemort's memories, it has seemed as though Harry has been able to associate with their situation and even start feeling sorry for them.

3. there is a line in the movie for POA where Lupin (I think) tells Harry that his mother was always able to "see" the good in people even when they couldn't see it themselves. (is this why harry's eyes being like his mothers' keeps getting repeated over and over?)

IMO, as other's have stated, this points to Harry seeing something good in Voldemort at the end that can be exploited to kill him. Since Harry doesn't seem to be able to do an unforgivable curse, I think that it'll be Voldemort killing himself with a backfired curse somehow. So maybe: Harry showing him mercy/love and laying down his wand at the end. Harry saving Snape from a curse of Volde's and the curse bouncing off again, etc.... Basically I don't think that Harry will/can kill him directly - Voldemort will effectively kill himself.

I think the thing with the eyes and Harry's blood in Voldemort are definitely connected.

I also think that Voldemort will undo himself somehow in a repeat of the original encounter with Harry. He believed that he would make himself stronger by taking Harry's blood, just as he believed that killing Harry to make the final Horcrux would make him stronger. His overconfidence is bound to be his undoing.

Both posts here are great. And this would really make it so that LV dies but Harry doesn't have to cast the unforgiveable curse....

I got thinking about it b/c it doesn't seem as though Harry CAN cast an unforgivable. I think he's tried a couple times already...

 

[Gatorman]

This is from Chap. 36 of GOF:

"He said my blood would make him stronger than if he'd used someone else's," Harry told Dumbledore. "He said that the protection my --- my mother left me --- he'd have it too. And he was right -- he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face."

For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore's eyes.

Not sure what to make of that. I've read interviews where she's stated that this look from Dumbledore is very imoportant.

Interesting. I just finished re-reading GOF and that passage stuck out to me, as well. I may have taken it too literally, but I thought Dumbledore had that look because he realized that Voldemort still didn't undertstand the "ancient and powerful magic" that protects Harry and that it would make him vulnerable and over-confident.

Harry's protection is/was based on love. I've always interpreted this to mean that Voldemort has basically infected himself with some essence humanity. From the beginning there has been a part of Voldemort in Harry, but until he used Harry's blood to resurrect himself that wasn't true the other way. I think the look of triumph shows that Dumbledore knows that the playing field has been leveled, and that there is now something good in Voldemort that can be exploited in the final confrontation.

That is what I've been thinking about since just re-reading books 5 and 6. Here are things that keep popping into my head:1. the look of triumph in DD's eyes in book 4 when he heard that Voldemort used Harry's blood for the spell.

2. a couple of times when they have looked at Snape's and Voldemort's memories, it has seemed as though Harry has been able to associate with their situation and even start feeling sorry for them.

3. there is a line in the movie for POA where Lupin (I think) tells Harry that his mother was always able to "see" the good in people even when they couldn't see it themselves. (is this why harry's eyes being like his mothers' keeps getting repeated over and over?)

IMO, as other's have stated, this points to Harry seeing something good in Voldemort at the end that can be exploited to kill him. Since Harry doesn't seem to be able to do an unforgivable curse, I think that it'll be Voldemort killing himself with a backfired curse somehow. So maybe: Harry showing him mercy/love and laying down his wand at the end. Harry saving Snape from a curse of Volde's and the curse bouncing off again, etc.... Basically I don't think that Harry will/can kill him directly - Voldemort will effectively kill himself.

I think the thing with the eyes and Harry's blood in Voldemort are definitely connected.

I also think that Voldemort will undo himself somehow in a repeat of the original encounter with Harry. He believed that he would make himself stronger by taking Harry's blood, just as he believed that killing Harry to make the final Horcrux would make him stronger. His overconfidence is bound to be his undoing.

Both posts here are great. And this would really make it so that LV dies but Harry doesn't have to cast the unforgiveable curse....

Perhaps it is something very odd like by ressurecting himself with harry's blood LV is now a "white Horcrux" for Harry?

 

[(HULK)]

100% they don't kill Harry.Not with the themepark coming.Harry has to live so he can be at the themepark.

 

[texasyankee]

100% they don't kill Harry.Not with the themepark coming.Harry has to live so he can be at the themepark.

You are better than this

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Perhaps it is something very odd like by ressurecting himself with harry's blood LV is now a "white Horcrux" for Harry?

That's an interesting idea.

 

[texasyankee]

This is from Chap. 36 of GOF:

"He said my blood would make him stronger than if he'd used someone else's," Harry told Dumbledore. "He said that the protection my --- my mother left me --- he'd have it too. And he was right -- he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face."

For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore's eyes.

Not sure what to make of that. I've read interviews where she's stated that this look from Dumbledore is very imoportant.

Interesting. I just finished re-reading GOF and that passage stuck out to me, as well. I may have taken it too literally, but I thought Dumbledore had that look because he realized that Voldemort still didn't undertstand the "ancient and powerful magic" that protects Harry and that it would make him vulnerable and over-confident.

Harry's protection is/was based on love. I've always interpreted this to mean that Voldemort has basically infected himself with some essence humanity. From the beginning there has been a part of Voldemort in Harry, but until he used Harry's blood to resurrect himself that wasn't true the other way. I think the look of triumph shows that Dumbledore knows that the playing field has been leveled, and that there is now something good in Voldemort that can be exploited in the final confrontation.

That is what I've been thinking about since just re-reading books 5 and 6. Here are things that keep popping into my head:1. the look of triumph in DD's eyes in book 4 when he heard that Voldemort used Harry's blood for the spell.

2. a couple of times when they have looked at Snape's and Voldemort's memories, it has seemed as though Harry has been able to associate with their situation and even start feeling sorry for them.

3. there is a line in the movie for POA where Lupin (I think) tells Harry that his mother was always able to "see" the good in people even when they couldn't see it themselves. (is this why harry's eyes being like his mothers' keeps getting repeated over and over?)

IMO, as other's have stated, this points to Harry seeing something good in Voldemort at the end that can be exploited to kill him. Since Harry doesn't seem to be able to do an unforgivable curse, I think that it'll be Voldemort killing himself with a backfired curse somehow. So maybe: Harry showing him mercy/love and laying down his wand at the end. Harry saving Snape from a curse of Volde's and the curse bouncing off again, etc.... Basically I don't think that Harry will/can kill him directly - Voldemort will effectively kill himself.

I think the thing with the eyes and Harry's blood in Voldemort are definitely connected.

I also think that Voldemort will undo himself somehow in a repeat of the original encounter with Harry. He believed that he would make himself stronger by taking Harry's blood, just as he believed that killing Harry to make the final Horcrux would make him stronger. His overconfidence is bound to be his undoing.

Both posts here are great. And this would really make it so that LV dies but Harry doesn't have to cast the unforgiveable curse....

Perhaps it is something very odd like by ressurecting himself with harry's blood LV is now a "white Horcrux" for Harry?

There is no question that LV using Harry's blood makes him vunerable. Not sure how LV being a horcrux for Harry works since Voldy will die at the end of the series

 

[HarryManback]

The Horcruxes and the possibility of Dumbledore not killing Voldy in the Ministry is a great simple theory. Harry probably described how Voldy came back with Wormtails procedure and made the connection. Which brings me to another simple theory.

The Horcruxes seemingly involve each house, so...

Tom Riddle's diary

Marvalo Gaunt's ring

Slytherin's locket (Slytherin)

Hufflepuff's cup (Hufflepuff)

unknown of Gryffindor

unknown of Ravenclaw

That is six and there is supposedly 7 that Harry and Albus have to destroy... but...

Voldy had to use one when Wormtail did his stuff according to being able to get a body back and such. And, would Voldy make another one just to replace that one? It appears that he couldnt and thus could only ever make 7 of them, to me in deciphering everything that we know about the Horcruxes.

One theory that is talked about frequently is that Harry himself is a Horcrux. That also fits with one of my pet theories about the last book; that we'll find out Harry is currently the last living decendent of Godric Gryffindor. Harry's family on the Potter (Wizarding) side is a complete mystery to this point, however his parents were hiding from Voldemort in Godric Hollow when everything went down. Of course there was also Harry's ability to pull the sword of Gryffindor from the Sorting Hat, the last two house relics. It would also complete the symmetry Harry has with Voldemort, and sets up the final confrontation as part of a much longer conflict between the two houses.

And would bring to life one of the thoughts I have always had - that Harry must sacrifice his life to actually kill Voldemort and that, to kill Harry, Voldemort must kill a part of himself.Remember, they always talk about how Voldemort put some of himself into Harry when he confronted him as a baby.

I could se the "ROTJ" ending where Dumbledore, Sirius, Harry's Parents and Harry are all together in a place beyond the physical world.

I have my suspicions that Rowling will kill Harry so that no other authors can bastardize her series with spinoffs.

 

[KarmaPolice]

The Horcruxes and the possibility of Dumbledore not killing Voldy in the Ministry is a great simple theory. Harry probably described how Voldy came back with Wormtails procedure and made the connection. Which brings me to another simple theory.

The Horcruxes seemingly involve each house, so...

Tom Riddle's diary

Marvalo Gaunt's ring

Slytherin's locket (Slytherin)

Hufflepuff's cup (Hufflepuff)

unknown of Gryffindor

unknown of Ravenclaw

That is six and there is supposedly 7 that Harry and Albus have to destroy... but...

Voldy had to use one when Wormtail did his stuff according to being able to get a body back and such. And, would Voldy make another one just to replace that one? It appears that he couldnt and thus could only ever make 7 of them, to me in deciphering everything that we know about the Horcruxes.

One theory that is talked about frequently is that Harry himself is a Horcrux. That also fits with one of my pet theories about the last book; that we'll find out Harry is currently the last living decendent of Godric Gryffindor. Harry's family on the Potter (Wizarding) side is a complete mystery to this point, however his parents were hiding from Voldemort in Godric Hollow when everything went down. Of course there was also Harry's ability to pull the sword of Gryffindor from the Sorting Hat, the last two house relics. It would also complete the symmetry Harry has with Voldemort, and sets up the final confrontation as part of a much longer conflict between the two houses.

And would bring to life one of the thoughts I have always had - that Harry must sacrifice his life to actually kill Voldemort and that, to kill Harry, Voldemort must kill a part of himself.Remember, they always talk about how Voldemort put some of himself into Harry when he confronted him as a baby.

I could se the "ROTJ" ending where Dumbledore, Sirius, Harry's Parents and Harry are all together in a place beyond the physical world.

I have my suspicions that Rowling will kill Harry so that no other authors can bastardize her series with spinoffs.

Wouldn't there be license agreements for stuff like that? Do people need permission to use the characters she created- ie. the ####load of Star Wars/Star Trek books out there?? Even if she did kill him, there could be back story books- DD back in the day, the James/Lily years, etc... I guess I assumed that she would have to sign off for any of that stuff to be done.

 

[Peak]

100% they don't kill Harry.Not with the themepark coming.Harry has to live so he can be at the themepark.

Why not? Why couldn't there be wizards graveyard, or a plaque dedicated to the late Harry Potter in Hogsmeade? They could even have a statue to tribute him. Just because there's a park doesn't mean he's alive.

 

[(HULK)]

100% they don't kill Harry.Not with the themepark coming.Harry has to live so he can be at the themepark.

:(

Why not? Why couldn't there be wizards graveyard, or a plaque dedicated to the late Harry Potter in Hogsmeade? They could even have a statue to tribute him. Just because there's a park doesn't mean he's alive.

You know their gonna have to have a "Harry" walking around the park. The kids will go just to meet Harry, much like kids used to go to Disney World with the goal of meeting Mickey.If Harry's dead, there goes the #1 draw of the theme park. Unless he dies in the book and they have him at the themepark anyways, and then he'd confuse and scare the children.My money is on him living.I'll make any avatar bets / sig bets with any takers.

 

[[icon]]

100% they don't kill Harry.Not with the themepark coming.Harry has to live so he can be at the themepark.

Why not? Why couldn't there be wizards graveyard, or a plaque dedicated to the late Harry Potter in Hogsmeade? They could even have a statue to tribute him. Just because there's a park doesn't mean he's alive.

You know their gonna have to have a "Harry" walking around the park. The kids will go just to meet Harry, much like kids used to go to Disney World with the goal of meeting Mickey.If Harry's dead, there goes the #1 draw of the theme park. Unless he dies in the book and they have him at the themepark anyways, and then he'd confuse and scare the children.My money is on him living.I'll make any avatar bets / sig bets with any takers.

 

[Capella]

Not a fan of the books, the movies were aight, but that theme park sounds bad-###.

 

[thayman]

Perhaps it is something very odd like by ressurecting himself with harry's blood LV is now a "white Horcrux" for Harry?

That's an interesting idea.

I don't see how that could be possible since creating a Horcrux involves tearing your soul in two. Plus you have to kill someone to tear your soul.

 

[snorlax]

Why not? Why couldn't there be wizards graveyard, or a plaque dedicated to the late Harry Potter in Hogsmeade? They could even have a statue to tribute him. Just because there's a park doesn't mean he's alive. :X

You know their gonna have to have a "Harry" walking around the park. The kids will go just to meet Harry, much like kids used to go to Disney World with the goal of meeting Mickey.If Harry's dead, there goes the #1 draw of the theme park. Unless he dies in the book and they have him at the themepark anyways, and then he'd confuse and scare the children.My money is on him living.I'll make any avatar bets / sig bets with any takers.

I agree that Harry will live, but it says right in the article that they will not have lookalikes at the park.

 

[Englishteacher]

It has now been reported that 2 characters will die and 1 received a reprieve from death. Much discussion revolves around who is now dead in the series. With about a year left before book 7 is released there is lots of time for this to be contemplated.

This leads to a USA Today brief with Mugglenet.com web host and The Leaky Cauldron's web host.

I would prematurely say that:

Lord Voldermort = dead

Draco Malfoy = dead

Severus Snape = reprieve

I hear Harry is supposed to fight Freddie Krueger and Jason (Vorhies?) in a cage match and all will die.Just kidding. Harry Potter is a good read. These books have just about saved the concept of reading for the generation now in school.

 

[Marc Levin]

OOTP 138 mins longThe British Board of Film Classification has revealed that the fifth Harry Potter movie will be 138 minutes long. Also, the movie will be rated 12A in the UK and PG-13 in the US (as we reported previously).

For a large book to only get 2 hours and 18 minutes out of it leaves me skeptcal. They ruined Azkaban... hopefully OOTP is noy ruined.

As the book series developed, the books got longer and more complex. I can't imagine they will capture the depth of the Order of the Phoenix with such a short movie - they have quite a few characters, and their relationships, to introduce very early.Everything that goes on in the Black household in the first part of the book could take 45 minutes to do properly.

 

[Marc Levin]

We're going to have to agree to disagree on Nagini being a Horcrux. I agree that it could be a possibility, but I'm not sure if live objects can be a Horcrux and I'm not sure what significant death/killing would have resulted in Voldemort making Nagini a horcrux. Especially since Nagini came into Voldemort's services in what appears to have been a much later timeframe than the original Horcruxes were created.

Plus, why would you place a part of your soul in something that is mortal? Take soul, cut out six parts, place in inanimate objects, hide objects and weave protections against them being discovered or touched.A living host is too unpredictable.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

OOTP 138 mins longThe British Board of Film Classification has revealed that the fifth Harry Potter movie will be 138 minutes long. Also, the movie will be rated 12A in the UK and PG-13 in the US (as we reported previously).

For a large book to only get 2 hours and 18 minutes out of it leaves me skeptcal. They ruined Azkaban... hopefully OOTP is noy ruined.

As the book series developed, the books got longer and more complex. I can't imagine they will capture the depth of the Order of the Phoenix with such a short movie - they have quite a few characters, and their relationships, to introduce very early.Everything that goes on in the Black household in the first part of the book could take 45 minutes to do properly.

I intentionally don't re-read the books before the films so I can enjoy them on their own terms, without looking for specific scenes or details. They've done a good job in my mind in capturing the spirit of the books without getting bogged down by some of the ancillary storylines.

 

[Marc Levin]

It seems like a lot of the bad guys need to die in this book,

I disagree. I think the death of Voldemort would mean surrender/capture/etc.The real question for me is how JKR will tie in the Giants going over to Voldemort, the dementors abandoning their posts at Azkaban, along with the primary battle, the resolution of issues regarding characters like Lupin and Nymphadora, and the continued social development of the students - the books gonna be big.In re: good wizards killing, I bet that Aurors have a lot of tricks to capture, or render harmless, those they are fighting.Finally, as to killing, we learned that there are fates worse than death (Sirius Black's demise into that mirror thing)

 

[Marc Levin]

OOTP 138 mins longThe British Board of Film Classification has revealed that the fifth Harry Potter movie will be 138 minutes long. Also, the movie will be rated 12A in the UK and PG-13 in the US (as we reported previously).

For a large book to only get 2 hours and 18 minutes out of it leaves me skeptcal. They ruined Azkaban... hopefully OOTP is noy ruined.

As the book series developed, the books got longer and more complex. I can't imagine they will capture the depth of the Order of the Phoenix with such a short movie - they have quite a few characters, and their relationships, to introduce very early.Everything that goes on in the Black household in the first part of the book could take 45 minutes to do properly.

I intentionally don't re-read the books before the films so I can enjoy them on their own terms, without looking for specific scenes or details. They've done a good job in my mind in capturing the spirit of the books without getting bogged down by some of the ancillary storylines.

The events at the house at the beginning of the book are not ancillary.They tie into the main storyline (and into the Half-Blood Prince) in important ways.

 

[KarmaPolice]

It seems like a lot of the bad guys need to die in this book,

I disagree. I think the death of Voldemort would mean surrender/capture/etc.The real question for me is how JKR will tie in the Giants going over to Voldemort, the dementors abandoning their posts at Azkaban, along with the primary battle, the resolution of issues regarding characters like Lupin and Nymphadora, and the continued social development of the students - the books gonna be big.

In re: good wizards killing, I bet that Aurors have a lot of tricks to capture, or render harmless, those they are fighting.

Finally, as to killing, we learned that there are fates worse than death (Sirius Black's demise into that mirror thing)

... and I believe that Dumbledore ( aka J.K.) has said this a couple times in the books as well.

 

[Sack-Religious]

It seems like a lot of the bad guys need to die in this book,

I disagree. I think the death of Voldemort would mean surrender/capture/etc.The real question for me is how JKR will tie in the Giants going over to Voldemort, the dementors abandoning their posts at Azkaban, along with the primary battle, the resolution of issues regarding characters like Lupin and Nymphadora, and the continued social development of the students - the books gonna be big.In re: good wizards killing, I bet that Aurors have a lot of tricks to capture, or render harmless, those they are fighting.Finally, as to killing, we learned that there are fates worse than death (Sirius Black's demise into that mirror thing)

I believe Aurors can kill. In OoTP, Moody shows Harry a photo of the original Order and names people and what they did. He mentions a couple names saying that they took out a few Death Eaters before they died or something to that effect. Whether they used an Unforgivable Curse, I'm on the fence, but I firmly beleive that in the right situations, good wizards can kill if necessary.Agreed that there are fates worse than death. But, FWIW, Sirius went through a stone arch with black curtains in what Dumbledore called the "Death Chamber" the fact that Harry heard voices coming from it, might mean it's some sort of purgatory, but I'll go with what Dumbledore calls it since he's been right through all the books. The mirror was something Sirius gave to Harry to faciliate communication between them since all other options were impossible/being monitored.

 

[Buckna]

It seems like a lot of the bad guys need to die in this book,

I disagree. I think the death of Voldemort would mean surrender/capture/etc.The real question for me is how JKR will tie in the Giants going over to Voldemort, the dementors abandoning their posts at Azkaban, along with the primary battle, the resolution of issues regarding characters like Lupin and Nymphadora, and the continued social development of the students - the books gonna be big.In re: good wizards killing, I bet that Aurors have a lot of tricks to capture, or render harmless, those they are fighting.Finally, as to killing, we learned that there are fates worse than death (Sirius Black's demise into that mirror thing)

I believe Aurors can kill. In OoTP, Moody shows Harry a photo of the original Order and names people and what they did. He mentions a couple names saying that they took out a few Death Eaters before they died or something to that effect. Whether they used an Unforgivable Curse, I'm on the fence, but I firmly beleive that in the right situations, good wizards can kill if necessary.Agreed that there are fates worse than death. But, FWIW, Sirius went through a stone arch with black curtains in what Dumbledore called the "Death Chamber" the fact that Harry heard voices coming from it, might mean it's some sort of purgatory, but I'll go with what Dumbledore calls it since he's been right through all the books. The mirror was something Sirius gave to Harry to faciliate communication between them since all other options were impossible/being monitored.

One thing to keep in mind is that these are still at heart children's books and face-off's involving violent deaths seems an unlikely route for Rowling to take. IIRC, most of the spells used by the OOTP when they showed up at the Ministry of Magic to help Harry and Co seemed to involve spells that disarmed and/or incapacitated. Also, ideas like taking revenge on your enemies doesn't seem like a positive moral message for Rowling to give to kids.I envision there will be only a small handful of deaths (by good hands at the very least) with most of the death eaters captured and imprisoned or on the run by the end of the book.

 

[TheFanatic]

It seems like a lot of the bad guys need to die in this book,

I disagree. I think the death of Voldemort would mean surrender/capture/etc.The real question for me is how JKR will tie in the Giants going over to Voldemort, the dementors abandoning their posts at Azkaban, along with the primary battle, the resolution of issues regarding characters like Lupin and Nymphadora, and the continued social development of the students - the books gonna be big.

In re: good wizards killing, I bet that Aurors have a lot of tricks to capture, or render harmless, those they are fighting.

Finally, as to killing, we learned that there are fates worse than death (Sirius Black's demise into that mirror thing)

I believe Aurors can kill. In OoTP, Moody shows Harry a photo of the original Order and names people and what they did. He mentions a couple names saying that they took out a few Death Eaters before they died or something to that effect. Whether they used an Unforgivable Curse, I'm on the fence, but I firmly beleive that in the right situations, good wizards can kill if necessary.Agreed that there are fates worse than death. But, FWIW, Sirius went through a stone arch with black curtains in what Dumbledore called the "Death Chamber" the fact that Harry heard voices coming from it, might mean it's some sort of purgatory, but I'll go with what Dumbledore calls it since he's been right through all the books. The mirror was something Sirius gave to Harry to faciliate communication between them since all other options were impossible/being monitored.

The cover of the kids version of the British book shows Harry, Ron and Hermione seemingly being sucked into an arch. I think that they somehow go into the Arch and bring Sirius back. But that's just my theory...