Hatred for people that use Draft Dominator (1 Viewer)

[ROBOPUNTER]

I know that I am not alone in this.I hate people that don't know how to use this awesome program. You are drafting either online or with friends and you either know or get a feeling that someone else is using draft dominator. You watch as they continuously take the top player listed in the rankings regardless of round or ADP. They just take the player because it is who the program has ranked highest. I have seen this happen over and over and over again each and every year, even in leagues that I do online and don't know anyone. It's easy to figure out who is using it.Perfect example: In a 12 team league that is drafting now, Gaffney was just taken in the 8th round! DD has him at an ADP of 13 but fantasy football calculator has him at 11. Why was he taken that early? Because he was the #1 ranked WR on DD at that time.Why is it so hard for people to comprehend how to use the program? It's not supposed to tell you who to take with your next pick. It is more of a big picture tool.IMO, the misuse of DD by people who don't take the time to learn the real value of it ruins a lot of drafts for those of us that do.Agree or diasagree?

 

[Balance]

The "correct" use of Draft Dominator, in the world you describe, would be to use it as pre-draft intel. Near perfect pre-draft information on other teams' plans, plus your own rankings, ought to give you an effortless, foolproof path to a great draft.Unless the real complaint is simply that the rankings you bought instead of doing any work for yourself were available for sale to others. That's why we don't buy off the rack before heading to the ball, Cinderella.

I've never heard of a fool proof method for predicting the future. Tell me more.

 

[Sack-Religious]

Complaining because you know what your leaguemates will be doing and not using this to your advantage strikes me as odd.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

The "correct" use of Draft Dominator, in the world you describe, would be to use it as pre-draft intel. Near perfect pre-draft information on other teams' plans, plus your own rankings, ought to give you an effortless, foolproof path to a great draft.Unless the real complaint is simply that the rankings you bought instead of doing any work for yourself were available for sale to others. That's why we don't buy off the rack before heading to the ball, Cinderella.

I've never heard of a fool proof method for predicting the future. Tell me more.

He told you more in the OP. He offered us a world where our hard-bought information was worthless because EVERYBODY had and used the same information, to his detriment. You want to know more about this magical world? Ask that guy, not this one.

 

[DoubleG]

In Bristol's defense, I think his point, while watered down and sounding quite a bit like "he picked so-and-so who I was sure would fall to me later", is a fair one...and has nothing to do with DD (although mentioning DD in the title is great way to get everyone in the pool's FF panties in a bunch.)

If I may, I beleive what he is pointing to is something long-time FF guys have been complaining about since the interent was invented by Mr. Gore (j/k - go to the FFA). That is, that high quality information and rankings are available to even the casual fan if they know where to look, thus giving those of us that work hard at our hobby (yes, let's keep that in mind too), less of an advantage then we would otherwise have.

Many of us have been there - you've been studying and adjusting your rankings based on bits and pieces you've gleaned throughout training camps and preseason, you've read dozens...nay, hundreds of articles on this player, that team's scheme or such-and-such draft strategy. You get to your draft and some 1st year owner, who walks in with a set of rankings he just printed from (any FF website) in his hand, the ink still damp, snypes your 5th round sleeper simply becuase the guy who put together the ranks he's using also likes this particular player.

The problem - you forgot it was just a hobby. I read up on guys so I'll do well - but also because I like to learn about football. I like to find out if I can "play expert" as much as some of the other guys on these boards, or the guys that write for this site (or others). Am I frustrated when someone snags I guy I was thinking "should" fall to me? Sure. Especially if he seemingly didn't "work" nearly as hard as I to arrive at that conclusion. But at the end of the day, it's still all for fun. I'll say the customary "Wow, nice pick." and scratch the guy off my list, all the while keeping in mind that I have done the exact same thing at different points in my FF "career" - that is, snype someone's guy simply because he was next on my list.

Again, this point isn't limited to DD - in fact, if it were it'd be much easier, as you would know what everyone else's cheat sheet says. This is more about high quality and up-to-the minute (sometimes second) information that is available to virtually anyone, which, IMHO (and apparently Bristol's) artificially evens the playing field. Is it "fair" - no, not particularly. But it is part of the evolving and increasingly popular hobby we all participate in.

 

[roadkill1292]

Time to go auction.

 

[belljr]

Does anyone still use paper anymore? The only thing I use the DD for is to print out a fancy spreadsheet.

I do love the guy that was the only one using the Draft Dominator and after the draft says well looks like according to Draft Dominator I picked the best team.... love THIS GUY

 

[Mainevent]

I know that I am not alone in this.I hate people that don't know how to use this awesome program. You are drafting either online or with friends and you either know or get a feeling that someone else is using draft dominator. You watch as they continuously take the top player listed in the rankings regardless of round or ADP. They just take the player because it is who the program has ranked highest. I have seen this happen over and over and over again each and every year, even in leagues that I do online and don't know anyone. It's easy to figure out who is using it.Perfect example: In a 12 team league that is drafting now, Gaffney was just taken in the 8th round! DD has him at an ADP of 13 but fantasy football calculator has him at 11. Why was he taken that early? Because he was the #1 ranked WR on DD at that time.Why is it so hard for people to comprehend how to use the program? It's not supposed to tell you who to take with your next pick. It is more of a big picture tool.IMO, the misuse of DD by people who don't take the time to learn the real value of it ruins a lot of drafts for those of us that do.Agree or diasagree?

 

[Spike]

This thread is like complaining about a bad beat from a terrible poker player. Sure it sucks you got beat once but it's the reason you're able to win in the long run. Besides, does it really matter if the guy you're targeting is drafted three picks earlier or three rounds earlier? You're not getting him either way, and honestly, the latter is preferable because your opponent isn't getting nearly the value he could be getting.

Agree 100%. I wasn't targeting Gaffney. He was just one of the players that when I looked ahead figured he would be there in thee 11 to 13th rounds if I needed a WR. It is good when someone reaches and leaves better players behind, but it is just stupid that they even make the pick.

Isn't it just possible that their projections for Gaffney are higher than yours? That would explain why they might have used DD or VBD to have him higher on their list than you.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Perfect example: In a 12 team league that is drafting now, Gaffney was just taken in the 8th round! DD has him at an ADP of 13 but fantasy football calculator has him at 11. Why was he taken that early? Because he was the #1 ranked WR on DD at that time.Why is it so hard for people to comprehend how to use the program? It's not supposed to tell you who to take with your next pick. It is more of a big picture tool.

In my draft last week someone who wasn't using the DD took Jabar Gaffney at the bottom of the 8th round. While ADP is a useful tool, every league is unique and you have to make adjustments based on what you know about your opponents.

 

[r3t2]

this is one of the funniest threads i've read in a long time. thanks to everyone for their contributions.

 

[LittlePhatty]

It ruins a draft because when you are using the program properly, you can kind of look ahead and figure out who may be there in 4 or 5 rounds from now and if you can afford to take a different position.

Waiting because ADP suggests you can is never a sure bet. I don't use DD, or even a computer. I do print out a sheet from the VBD app that lists ADP for every player, but I largely ignore the ADP stat. Starting in Round 7 or so I will always reach for players (particularly WRs) if feel good about them I want to make SURE they are on my team. If you put off grabbing Mike Williams (TB) because you think he SHOULD fall down into Round 10, well I'm going to be the guy who pisses you off and takes him in Round 8 and DD has nothing to do with it.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Does anyone still use paper anymore?

All 12 guys in my home league. No one brought a computer last week.

 

[Ariakis]

lol if people take sleepers too early then their whole value is lost unless they truly break out AND better players who should have gone will slide. Don't you understand how to use the tool?!?! You have to be flexible last I checked that's part of what you use the tool for. In one of my recent drafts Finley and Tate went in the 4th and Gaffney, Berrian, Floyd, etc all went early too. Your ideal original plan may not work based on your mocks but you still need to follow your plan.

 

[Christo]

In Bristol's defense, I think his point, while watered down and sounding quite a bit like "he picked so-and-so who I was sure would fall to me later", is a fair one...and has nothing to do with DD (although mentioning DD in the title is great way to get everyone in the pool's FF panties in a bunch.)If I may, I beleive what he is pointing to is something long-time FF guys have been complaining about since the interent was invented by Mr. Gore (j/k - go to the FFA). That is, that high quality information and rankings are available to even the casual fan if they know where to look, thus giving those of us that work hard at our hobby (yes, let's keep that in mind too), less of an advantage then we would otherwise have. Many of us have been there - you've been studying and adjusting your rankings based on bits and pieces you've gleaned throughout training camps and preseason, you've read dozens...nay, hundreds of articles on this player, that team's scheme or such-and-such draft strategy. You get to your draft and some 1st year owner, who walks in with a set of rankings he just printed from (any FF website) in his hand, the ink still damp, snypes your 5th round sleeper simply becuase the guy who put together the ranks he's using also likes this particular player.The problem - you forgot it was just a hobby. I read up on guys so I'll do well - but also because I like to learn about football. I like to find out if I can "play expert" as much as some of the other guys on these boards, or the guys that write for this site (or others). Am I frustrated when someone snags I guy I was thinking "should" fall to me? Sure. Especially if he seemingly didn't "work" nearly as hard as I to arrive at that conclusion. But at the end of the day, it's still all for fun. I'll say the customary "Wow, nice pick." and scratch the guy off my list, all the while keeping in mind that I have done the exact same thing at different points in my FF "career" - that is, snype someone's guy simply because he was next on my list.Again, this point isn't limited to DD - in fact, if it were it'd be much easier, as you would know what everyone else's cheat sheet says. This is more about high quality and up-to-the minute (sometimes second) information that is available to virtually anyone, which, IMHO (and apparently Bristol's) artificially evens the playing field. Is it "fair" - no, not particularly. But it is part of the evolving and increasingly popular hobby we all participate in.

You're being very generous.

 

[Dought Man]

Complaining because you know what your leaguemates will be doing and not using this to your advantage strikes me as odd.

/thread

 

[Amused to Death]

I thought this was going to be about the beeping/buzzing of the timer. Nothing better than a roomful of those going off at the end of every pick.

DD!! A great tool for the masses! FBG is great but they've become so big that they drive the herd.

No doubt about it. In one of my leagues, I can tell what my team is going to be before the draft even starts just by comparing my rankings to the FBG rankings.

Like someone else mentioned in this thread; time to switch to an auction.

 

[Bristol]

this is one of the funniest threads i've read in a long time. thanks to everyone for their contributions.

No problem! It's my pleasure to start a thread that gives everyone enjoyment!

 

[massraider]

Time to go auction.

No, that sucks too, cause then people pay more money than Bristol thinks they should go for, so it totally ruins the auction for people that KNOW how to auction.

 

[Bristol]

Time to go auction.

No, that sucks too, cause then people pay more money than Bristol thinks they should go for, so it totally ruins the auction for people that KNOW how to auction.

Now you are getting it!!!!

 

[DonnyT33]

I know that I am not alone in this.I hate people that don't know how to use this awesome program. You are drafting either online or with friends and you either know or get a feeling that someone else is using draft dominator. You watch as they continuously take the top player listed in the rankings regardless of round or ADP. They just take the player because it is who the program has ranked highest. I have seen this happen over and over and over again each and every year, even in leagues that I do online and don't know anyone. It's easy to figure out who is using it.Perfect example: In a 12 team league that is drafting now, Gaffney was just taken in the 8th round! DD has him at an ADP of 13 but fantasy football calculator has him at 11. Why was he taken that early? Because he was the #1 ranked WR on DD at that time.Why is it so hard for people to comprehend how to use the program? It's not supposed to tell you who to take with your next pick. It is more of a big picture tool.IMO, the misuse of DD by people who don't take the time to learn the real value of it ruins a lot of drafts for those of us that do.Agree or diasagree?

100% agree.

 

[Man of Constant Sorrow]

this is one of the funniest threads i've read in a long time. thanks to everyone for their contributions.

No problem! It's my pleasure to start a thread that gives everyone enjoyment!

Time to go auction.

No, that sucks too, cause then people pay more money than Bristol thinks they should go for, so it totally ruins the auction for people that KNOW how to auction.

Now you are getting it!!!!

I've had days like this as well. Way to keep the chin up Bristol.

 

[Obie Wan]

These aren't the sleepers you're looking for.

classicbut that's obie wan, not darth vaderi should know

 

[achemen]

Time to go auction.

No, that sucks too, cause then people pay more money than Bristol thinks they should go for, so it totally ruins the auction for people that KNOW how to auction.

 

[Cassius]

People complaining because other drafters are taking the FBG "sleepers" before the ADP.

Get used to it - FBG is only getting bigger and bigger.

 

[Cassius]

Time to go auction.

No, that sucks too, cause then people pay more money than Bristol thinks they should go for, so it totally ruins the auction for people that KNOW how to auction.

 

[Chaka]

These aren't the sleepers you're looking for.

classicbut that's obie wan, not darth vader

i should know

I doubt that.

 

[Mohawk]

WHINERS!

Mind your own business.

take who you want and do not worry about how others picks

WHINE WHINE WHINE~!

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I don't get it, you are complaining that you know who someone is going to pick?You don't like that it is available to all subscribers?How does it ruin a draft?I use it as a tool for a cheatsheet, I prefer to cross off names myself, I will never do it another way, I know who I like and who I have ranked above another player in my head. I don't get your complaint.

It ruins a draft because when you are using the program properly, you can kind of look ahead and figure out who may be there in 4 or 5 rounds from now and if you can afford to take a different position. When someone grabs a player 3 to 5 rounds ahead of ADP, it throws off the draft.The DD is much more than a cheatsheet. Once you realize the full power of this program, then you will understand what my complaint is.

Bristol,If owners are taking players 3 to 4 rounds before they should, then that should only strenghten your draft. It's not the DD, it's the use of fbg projections or something similar. I recently drafted and someone told me DD likes your team, it's got you 2nd in scoring. I don't use DD but I use the custom made cheatsheets and tweak my preferences from there. It's anyone using these same type of projections.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

The DD is much more than a cheatsheet. Once you realize the full power of this program, then you will understand what my complaint is.

We know what your complaint is. Your complaint is that you wanted to pick up Gaffney (and likely other guys) as this year's big sleeper and someone beat you to it.I mean, listen to what you're saying here. You're saying that the draft is ruined because people are drafting guys too early? How does that do anything but help you, unless of course those ADPs you were looking at weren't an accurate reflection of where that person should actually go now?

This is like saying "my draft was ruined because everyone took QBs in the first three rounds and I got stuck with Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson, and Ray Rice as my running backs". If these truly are "stupid picks" that these guys are making, then that should only help you. If the 8th round is full of guys with ADPs in the 13th round, then that means you get better value in the 8th round than everyone else when you actually pick an 8th rounder, and in the 9th round people will be there for you that shouldn't have been. That is, again, unless these guys ADPs just aren't up to snuff. With Gaffney's big preseason game, people's propensity to overreact in the preseason, and Demaryius Thomas' injury, it's entirely possible that someone would draft Gaffney in the 8th round legitimately.

Further, you're complaining that you can't tell how the draft is generally going to play out when some guys are throwing ADP out the window, but instead you know exactly how it's going to play out (since you can see exactly who they're going to pick), and that makes things worse for you?

What's ironic about this thread is that you complain about people letting DD draft for them, but to me it sounds like you do the same thing, only with ADP instead of DD. "Oh Gaffney has an ADP in the 13th round, so I have to wait to the 13th round to draft him". Sorry guy, Gaffney's ADP is rising daily and his a FBG darling. If you want him, you're going to have to take him earlier.

 

[TitanicHornet]

Never leave home without it. If someone else has it, good on them. DD doesnt determine who I take and nor should it. It just helps sway me when im on the fence.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Free is right, if these so called crazy picks were indeed bad, then it can only help you. If they aren't bad picks then you can't blame owners for making good picks.

 

[Sleehrat]

Fantasy Football = Hobby = Don't take it too seriously = Just enjoy Draft Day

 

[belljr]

Does anyone still use paper anymore?

All 12 guys in my home league. No one brought a computer last week.

I use the custom cheatsheet apps etc to just print out my crap. Only time I use my laptop is the league I commish, I enter the teams on the fly.

 

[Bristol]

The DD is much more than a cheatsheet. Once you realize the full power of this program, then you will understand what my complaint is.

We know what your complaint is. Your complaint is that you wanted to pick up Gaffney (and likely other guys) as this year's big sleeper and someone beat you to it.I mean, listen to what you're saying here. You're saying that the draft is ruined because people are drafting guys too early? How does that do anything but help you, unless of course those ADPs you were looking at weren't an accurate reflection of where that person should actually go now?

This is like saying "my draft was ruined because everyone took QBs in the first three rounds and I got stuck with Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson, and Ray Rice as my running backs". If these truly are "stupid picks" that these guys are making, then that should only help you. If the 8th round is full of guys with ADPs in the 13th round, then that means you get better value in the 8th round than everyone else when you actually pick an 8th rounder, and in the 9th round people will be there for you that shouldn't have been. That is, again, unless these guys ADPs just aren't up to snuff. With Gaffney's big preseason game, people's propensity to overreact in the preseason, and Demaryius Thomas' injury, it's entirely possible that someone would draft Gaffney in the 8th round legitimately.

Further, you're complaining that you can't tell how the draft is generally going to play out when some guys are throwing ADP out the window, but instead you know exactly how it's going to play out (since you can see exactly who they're going to pick), and that makes things worse for you?

What's ironic about this thread is that you complain about people letting DD draft for them, but to me it sounds like you do the same thing, only with ADP instead of DD. "Oh Gaffney has an ADP in the 13th round, so I have to wait to the 13th round to draft him". Sorry guy, Gaffney's ADP is rising daily and his a FBG darling. If you want him, you're going to have to take him earlier.

Totally wrong view. But thanks for playing!

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

The DD is much more than a cheatsheet. Once you realize the full power of this program, then you will understand what my complaint is.

We know what your complaint is. Your complaint is that you wanted to pick up Gaffney (and likely other guys) as this year's big sleeper and someone beat you to it.I mean, listen to what you're saying here. You're saying that the draft is ruined because people are drafting guys too early? How does that do anything but help you, unless of course those ADPs you were looking at weren't an accurate reflection of where that person should actually go now?

This is like saying "my draft was ruined because everyone took QBs in the first three rounds and I got stuck with Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson, and Ray Rice as my running backs". If these truly are "stupid picks" that these guys are making, then that should only help you. If the 8th round is full of guys with ADPs in the 13th round, then that means you get better value in the 8th round than everyone else when you actually pick an 8th rounder, and in the 9th round people will be there for you that shouldn't have been. That is, again, unless these guys ADPs just aren't up to snuff. With Gaffney's big preseason game, people's propensity to overreact in the preseason, and Demaryius Thomas' injury, it's entirely possible that someone would draft Gaffney in the 8th round legitimately.

Further, you're complaining that you can't tell how the draft is generally going to play out when some guys are throwing ADP out the window, but instead you know exactly how it's going to play out (since you can see exactly who they're going to pick), and that makes things worse for you?

What's ironic about this thread is that you complain about people letting DD draft for them, but to me it sounds like you do the same thing, only with ADP instead of DD. "Oh Gaffney has an ADP in the 13th round, so I have to wait to the 13th round to draft him". Sorry guy, Gaffney's ADP is rising daily and his a FBG darling. If you want him, you're going to have to take him earlier.

Totally wrong view. But thanks for playing!

No, he pretty much nailed it.I do find it plausible that this isn't what you meant, and your communication skills simply failed you, however.

 

[Bristol]

The DD is much more than a cheatsheet. Once you realize the full power of this program, then you will understand what my complaint is.

We know what your complaint is. Your complaint is that you wanted to pick up Gaffney (and likely other guys) as this year's big sleeper and someone beat you to it.I mean, listen to what you're saying here. You're saying that the draft is ruined because people are drafting guys too early? How does that do anything but help you, unless of course those ADPs you were looking at weren't an accurate reflection of where that person should actually go now?

This is like saying "my draft was ruined because everyone took QBs in the first three rounds and I got stuck with Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson, and Ray Rice as my running backs". If these truly are "stupid picks" that these guys are making, then that should only help you. If the 8th round is full of guys with ADPs in the 13th round, then that means you get better value in the 8th round than everyone else when you actually pick an 8th rounder, and in the 9th round people will be there for you that shouldn't have been. That is, again, unless these guys ADPs just aren't up to snuff. With Gaffney's big preseason game, people's propensity to overreact in the preseason, and Demaryius Thomas' injury, it's entirely possible that someone would draft Gaffney in the 8th round legitimately.

Further, you're complaining that you can't tell how the draft is generally going to play out when some guys are throwing ADP out the window, but instead you know exactly how it's going to play out (since you can see exactly who they're going to pick), and that makes things worse for you?

What's ironic about this thread is that you complain about people letting DD draft for them, but to me it sounds like you do the same thing, only with ADP instead of DD. "Oh Gaffney has an ADP in the 13th round, so I have to wait to the 13th round to draft him". Sorry guy, Gaffney's ADP is rising daily and his a FBG darling. If you want him, you're going to have to take him earlier.

Totally wrong view. But thanks for playing!

No, he pretty much nailed it.I do find it plausible that this isn't what you meant, and your communication skills simply failed you, however.

How exactly did he "nail it"? Are you me? Maybe your comprehension skills are failing you!

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

The DD is much more than a cheatsheet. Once you realize the full power of this program, then you will understand what my complaint is.

We know what your complaint is. Your complaint is that you wanted to pick up Gaffney (and likely other guys) as this year's big sleeper and someone beat you to it.I mean, listen to what you're saying here. You're saying that the draft is ruined because people are drafting guys too early? How does that do anything but help you, unless of course those ADPs you were looking at weren't an accurate reflection of where that person should actually go now?

This is like saying "my draft was ruined because everyone took QBs in the first three rounds and I got stuck with Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson, and Ray Rice as my running backs". If these truly are "stupid picks" that these guys are making, then that should only help you. If the 8th round is full of guys with ADPs in the 13th round, then that means you get better value in the 8th round than everyone else when you actually pick an 8th rounder, and in the 9th round people will be there for you that shouldn't have been. That is, again, unless these guys ADPs just aren't up to snuff. With Gaffney's big preseason game, people's propensity to overreact in the preseason, and Demaryius Thomas' injury, it's entirely possible that someone would draft Gaffney in the 8th round legitimately.

Further, you're complaining that you can't tell how the draft is generally going to play out when some guys are throwing ADP out the window, but instead you know exactly how it's going to play out (since you can see exactly who they're going to pick), and that makes things worse for you?

What's ironic about this thread is that you complain about people letting DD draft for them, but to me it sounds like you do the same thing, only with ADP instead of DD. "Oh Gaffney has an ADP in the 13th round, so I have to wait to the 13th round to draft him". Sorry guy, Gaffney's ADP is rising daily and his a FBG darling. If you want him, you're going to have to take him earlier.

Totally wrong view. But thanks for playing!

No, he pretty much nailed it.I do find it plausible that this isn't what you meant, and your communication skills simply failed you, however.

How exactly did he "nail it"? Are you me? Maybe your comprehension skills are failing you!

As it happens, I'm not you. No idea how you feel about things, other than what you write. What you wrote, he nailed.Again, the problem is probably one of communication.

 

[Tau837]

The DD is much more than a cheatsheet. Once you realize the full power of this program, then you will understand what my complaint is.

We know what your complaint is. Your complaint is that you wanted to pick up Gaffney (and likely other guys) as this year's big sleeper and someone beat you to it.I mean, listen to what you're saying here. You're saying that the draft is ruined because people are drafting guys too early? How does that do anything but help you, unless of course those ADPs you were looking at weren't an accurate reflection of where that person should actually go now?

This is like saying "my draft was ruined because everyone took QBs in the first three rounds and I got stuck with Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson, and Ray Rice as my running backs". If these truly are "stupid picks" that these guys are making, then that should only help you. If the 8th round is full of guys with ADPs in the 13th round, then that means you get better value in the 8th round than everyone else when you actually pick an 8th rounder, and in the 9th round people will be there for you that shouldn't have been. That is, again, unless these guys ADPs just aren't up to snuff. With Gaffney's big preseason game, people's propensity to overreact in the preseason, and Demaryius Thomas' injury, it's entirely possible that someone would draft Gaffney in the 8th round legitimately.

Further, you're complaining that you can't tell how the draft is generally going to play out when some guys are throwing ADP out the window, but instead you know exactly how it's going to play out (since you can see exactly who they're going to pick), and that makes things worse for you?

What's ironic about this thread is that you complain about people letting DD draft for them, but to me it sounds like you do the same thing, only with ADP instead of DD. "Oh Gaffney has an ADP in the 13th round, so I have to wait to the 13th round to draft him". Sorry guy, Gaffney's ADP is rising daily and his a FBG darling. If you want him, you're going to have to take him earlier.

This is classic, to complain about leaguemates doing something that actually helps.

 

[Chaka]

Here fishy, fishy, fishy.