HERD's NFL Mock - 2008 - Version 4.0 (1 Viewer)

[Colin Dowling]

My, how things change. The QB carousel likely won't be solved until draft day, but thankfully Mel "Always late to the party" Kiper finally realizes the Matt Ryan is not a 3rd round prospect. I've reluctantly moved Brohm to QB1, but I expect that to be pretty fluid. There are a couple picks likely to raise some eyebrows (i.e.: Somewhere in the Lone Star state) that I'll be happy to explain further. I also left a little Thanksgiving fishing in there for someone to no doubt bite on. Otherwise, no commentary this time as it gets kind of redundant at this point.

Players of note not in round 1: Calais Campbell, Mike Hart, Ian Johnson, Early Doucet, Adalius Bowman. I expect Dennis Dixon to go to Tampa in round 2. I expect Chad Henne and Eric Ainge to go in round three to the Rams and Panthers (respectively). I expect the Titans to use their first two picks on WRs, and I'm hoping they don't do something dumb and reach for Manningham in round 1; they already have a bunch of guys with bad hands.

I have the Falcons and Pats making a trade. 1. NE always trades down/out of Round 1. 2. They aren't in the same conference. 3. There could be some real concern that both NYJ and STL look at QBs. No, I don't know what they'd trade for the pick. I'm sure they can work something out.

1. Miami - Jake Long - OT - UM

2. Atlanta (via NE via SF) - Brain Brohm - QB - UL

3. St. Louis Rams - Glenn Dorsey - DT - LSU

4. Oakland Raiders - Darren McFadden - RB - UA

5. New York Jets - Chris Long - DE - UVA

6. Cincinatti - Frank Okam - DT - UT

7. New England - Malcolm Jenkins - OSU - CB

8. New Orleans - Dan Conner - LB - PSU

9. Baltimore - MAtt Ryan - QB - BC

10. Kansas City - Kenny Phillips - S - UM

11. Minnesota - Andre Woodson - QB - UK

12. Carolina - Michael Oher - OT - Ole Miss

13. Chicago - Ryan Clady - OT - BSU

14. Arizona - Sedric Ellis - DT - USC

15. Houston - Jamal Charles - RB - UT

16. Buffalo - Alex Boone - OT - OSU

17. Denver - James Laurinaitis - LB - USC

18. San Diego - Vernon Gholston - DE

19. Philadelphia - Antoine Cason - CB

20. Washington - Quentin Groves - DE - Auburn

21. Seattle - Rashard Mendenhall - RB - UI

22. Dallas (via Cle) - DeSean Jackson - WR - Cal

23. Tampa Bay - Ray Rice - RB - Rutgers

24. Tennessee - Malcolm Kelly - WR - Oklahoma

25. Detroit - Mike Jenkins - CB - USF

26. Pittsburgh - Sam Baker - OT - USC

27. Jacksonville - Derrick Harvey - DE - UF

28. NY Giants - Keith Rivers - LB - USC

29. San Fransisco (via Indy) - Steve Slaton - RB - WVU

30. Green Bay - Jonathan Stewart - RB - WVU

31. Dallas - DeJuan Tribble - CB - BC

 

[TLEF316]

just looking at it briefly, i like the mock. However, there is no chance the Jets even think of going QB in round 1. Clemens has played very well for a first time guy and there will be some great players available that will fill holes.

 

[greenline]

My, how things change. The QB carousel likely won't be solved until draft day, but thankfully Mel "Always late to the party" Kiper finally realizes the Matt Ryan is not a 3rd round prospect. I've reluctantly moved Brohm to QB1, but I expect that to be pretty fluid. There are a couple picks likely to raise some eyebrows (i.e.: Somewhere in the Lone Star state) that I'll be happy to explain further. I also left a little Thanksgiving fishing in there for someone to no doubt bite on. Otherwise, no commentary this time as it gets kind of redundant at this point. Players of note not in round 1: Calais Campbell, Mike Hart, Ian Johnson, Early Doucet, Adalius Bowman. I expect Dennis Dixon to go to Tampa in round 2. I expect Chad Henne and Eric Ainge to go in round three to the Rams and Panthers (respectively). I expect the Titans to use their first two picks on WRs, and I'm hoping they don't do something dumb and reach for Manningham in round 1; they already have a bunch of guys with bad hands. I have the Falcons and Pats making a trade. 1. NE always trades down/out of Round 1. 2. They aren't in the same conference. 3. There could be some real concern that both NYJ and STL look at QBs. No, I don't know what they'd trade for the pick. I'm sure they can work something out.1. Miami - Jake Long - OT - UM2. Atlanta (via NE via SF) - Brain Brohm - QB - UL3. St. Louis Rams - Glenn Dorsey - DT - LSU4. Oakland Raiders - Darren McFadden - RB - UA5. New York Jets - Chris Long - DE - UVA6. Cincinatti - Frank Okam - DT - UT7. New England - Malcolm Jenkins - OSU - CB8. New Orleans - Dan Conner - LB - PSU9. Baltimore - MAtt Ryan - QB - BC10. Kansas City - Kenny Phillips - S - UM11. Minnesota - Andre Woodson - QB - UK12. Carolina - Michael Oher - OT - Ole Miss13. Chicago - Ryan Clady - OT - BSU14. Arizona - Sedric Ellis - DT - USC15. Houston - Jamal Charles - RB - UT16. Buffalo - Alex Boone - OT - OSU17. Denver - James Laurinaitis - LB - USC18. San Diego - Vernon Gholston - DE 19. Philadelphia - Antoine Cason - CB 20. Washington - Quentin Groves - DE - Auburn21. Seattle - Rashard Mendenhall - RB - UI22. Dallas (via Cle) - DeSean Jackson - WR - Cal 23. Tampa Bay - Ray Rice - RB - Rutgers24. Tennessee - Malcolm Kelly - WR - Oklahoma25. Detroit - Mike Jenkins - CB - USF26. Pittsburgh - Sam Baker - OT - USC27. Jacksonville - Derrick Harvey - DE - UF28. NY Giants - Keith Rivers - LB - USC29. San Fransisco (via Indy) - Steve Slaton - RB - WVU30. Green Bay - Jonathan Stewart - RB - WVU31. Dallas - DeJuan Tribble - CB - BC

Why do you think Miami takes the Offensive Tackle?

 

[Colin Dowling]

Why do you think Miami takes the Offensive Tackle?

Because he's REALLY stinking good, I think that Beck will get his chance, and they aren't taking McFadden. Okam or Dorsey will likely merit consideration, but a 12 year anchor LT is hard to pass up.

 

[Finatic]

From everything I have read Jamal Charles is a longshot at best to come out.....Jonathan Stewart seems to be the consensus #2 RB pre-combine..........

As for my Fins,the next 5 games will be the time to see if they need to spend the #1 on a franchise QB or not............

Edited for spelling

 

[jeter23]

 

[Colin Dowling]

From everything I have read Jamal Charles is a longshot at best to come out.....Jonathan Stewart seems to be the consensus #2 RB pre-combine..........

As for my Fins,the next 5 games will be the time to see if they need to spend the #1 on a franchise QB or not............

Edited for spelling

Everyone keeps saying this, but this board is the only place I've seen anyone have this opinion.Most circles have McFadden, Mendenhal, Slaton, and Rice clearly ahead of Stewart. GBN has him at 54th overall behind everyone I've listed PLUS Charles, Hart, and Choice. Scout has him at 47th overall behind, RB6.

 

[Sweet Love]

If McFadden drops to the Jets do you think they take him? While the running game has been the least of the Jets problems this year (well besides WRs), I don't see how they could pass him up IMO.

 

[greenline]

Why do you think Miami takes the Offensive Tackle?

Because he's REALLY stinking good, I think that Beck will get his chance, and they aren't taking McFadden. Okam or Dorsey will likely merit consideration, but a 12 year anchor LT is hard to pass up.

I don't know Colin. They already have Vernon Carey who was a 1st rd pick and the one thing Miami has had a positive from this year was the OL. I would say Dorsey to replace Keith Traylor is a better fit.

 

[Colin Dowling]

If McFadden drops to the Jets do you think they take him? While the running game has been the least of the Jets problems this year (well besides WRs), I don't see how they could pass him up IMO.

Without question. I could also see ATl trading up for McFadden, not a QB.

 

[Max Power]

Love the optomisitc view of having the Bears @ 13. Id be semi shocked to see them win more than 2 more games.

Sun 11/25 Denver - Probably a L, Denver has looked good lately

Sun 12/2 NY Giants - again probably a L

Thu 12/6 at Washington - I put this in the might win

Mon 12/17 at Minnesota - all depends if ADP is back (should be from reports) should W

Sun 12/23 Green Bay - No way GB loses twice to Chicago this season

Sun 12/30 New Orleans - Game will mean more to NO than Chi.

I think the Bears will finish at 6-10, but 5-11 is not out of the question.

I love the OL pick, but the Bears GM doesn't like taking unproven talent at OL. I am hoping for Kenny Phillips or Malcom Kelly.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Love the optomisitc view of having the Bears @ 13. Id be semi shocked to see them win more than 2 more games.Sun 11/25 Denver - Probably a L, Denver has looked good latelySun 12/2 NY Giants - again probably a L Thu 12/6 at Washington - I put this in the might win Mon 12/17 at Minnesota - all depends if ADP is back (should be from reports) should WSun 12/23 Green Bay - No way GB loses twice to Chicago this seasonSun 12/30 New Orleans - Game will mean more to NO than Chi. I think the Bears will finish at 6-10, but 5-11 is not out of the question.I love the OL pick, but the Bears GM doesn't like taking unproven talent at OL. I am hoping for Kenny Phillips or Malcom Kelly.

Kelly is certainly a possibiltiy.

 

[Max Power]

Love the optomisitc view of having the Bears @ 13. Id be semi shocked to see them win more than 2 more games.Sun 11/25 Denver - Probably a L, Denver has looked good latelySun 12/2 NY Giants - again probably a L Thu 12/6 at Washington - I put this in the might win Mon 12/17 at Minnesota - all depends if ADP is back (should be from reports) should WSun 12/23 Green Bay - No way GB loses twice to Chicago this seasonSun 12/30 New Orleans - Game will mean more to NO than Chi. I think the Bears will finish at 6-10, but 5-11 is not out of the question.I love the OL pick, but the Bears GM doesn't like taking unproven talent at OL. I am hoping for Kenny Phillips or Malcom Kelly.

Kelly is certainly a possibiltiy.

I know little about other than he is a 6'4 guy. I got a friend from Oklahoma who raves about him. Any Chance he is the #1 WR taken?

 

[shadyridr]

If there's one position SF doesnt need its RB

 

[Finatic]

If there's one position SF doesnt need its RB

Would like to hear your reasoning here Colin???

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Why do you think Miami takes the Offensive Tackle?

Because he's REALLY stinking good, I think that Beck will get his chance, and they aren't taking McFadden. Okam or Dorsey will likely merit consideration, but a 12 year anchor LT is hard to pass up.

I don't know Colin. They already have Vernon Carey who was a 1st rd pick and the one thing Miami has had a positive from this year was the OL. I would say Dorsey to replace Keith Traylor is a better fit.

This was my original thought as well, and several Dolphin fans seem to feel this way. DL needs more help than OL.

 

[Finatic]

Why do you think Miami takes the Offensive Tackle?

Because he's REALLY stinking good, I think that Beck will get his chance, and they aren't taking McFadden. Okam or Dorsey will likely merit consideration, but a 12 year anchor LT is hard to pass up.

I don't know Colin. They already have Vernon Carey who was a 1st rd pick and the one thing Miami has had a positive from this year was the OL. I would say Dorsey to replace Keith Traylor is a better fit.

This was my original thought as well, and several Dolphin fans seem to feel this way. DL needs more help than OL.

I think our OL has been the only bright spot this season outside of Ronnie Brown's early season tear.........Dorsey seems like the pick to me but what do I know

 

[Bankerguy]

I love both of your Cowboys picks...carry on!!

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

17. Denver - James Laurinaitis - LB - USC

This looks like a steal. DJ Williams if this happens.

23. Tampa Bay - Ray Rice - RB - Rutgers

This one is a major head-scratcher on several levels. I'm not sure Ray Rice is a first rounder, although I love the kid. But Tampa? Really?They have Caddy and now Earnest Graham. Surely they have more pressing needs.

 

[Urinal Mint]

I'd rather Dallas took Kelly than Jackson if they're going to go WR in the first round.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Why do you think Miami takes the Offensive Tackle?

Because he's REALLY stinking good, I think that Beck will get his chance, and they aren't taking McFadden. Okam or Dorsey will likely merit consideration, but a 12 year anchor LT is hard to pass up.

I don't know Colin. They already have Vernon Carey who was a 1st rd pick and the one thing Miami has had a positive from this year was the OL. I would say Dorsey to replace Keith Traylor is a better fit.

This was my original thought as well, and several Dolphin fans seem to feel this way. DL needs more help than OL.

I think our OL has been the only bright spot this season outside of Ronnie Brown's early season tear.........Dorsey seems like the pick to me but what do I know

At least your sig is

 

[Liquid Tension]

My, how things change. The QB carousel likely won't be solved until draft day, but thankfully Mel "Always late to the party" Kiper finally realizes the Matt Ryan is not a 3rd round prospect. I've reluctantly moved Brohm to QB1, but I expect that to be pretty fluid. There are a couple picks likely to raise some eyebrows (i.e.: Somewhere in the Lone Star state) that I'll be happy to explain further. I also left a little Thanksgiving fishing in there for someone to no doubt bite on. Otherwise, no commentary this time as it gets kind of redundant at this point. Players of note not in round 1: Calais Campbell, Mike Hart, Ian Johnson, Early Doucet, Adalius Bowman. I expect Dennis Dixon to go to Tampa in round 2. I expect Chad Henne and Eric Ainge to go in round three to the Rams and Panthers (respectively). I expect the Titans to use their first two picks on WRs, and I'm hoping they don't do something dumb and reach for Manningham in round 1; they already have a bunch of guys with bad hands. I have the Falcons and Pats making a trade. 1. NE always trades down/out of Round 1. 2. They aren't in the same conference. 3. There could be some real concern that both NYJ and STL look at QBs. No, I don't know what they'd trade for the pick. I'm sure they can work something out.1. Miami - Jake Long - OT - UM2. Atlanta (via NE via SF) - Brain Brohm - QB - UL3. St. Louis Rams - Glenn Dorsey - DT - LSU4. Oakland Raiders - Darren McFadden - RB - UA5. New York Jets - Chris Long - DE - UVA6. Cincinatti - Frank Okam - DT - UT7. New England - Malcolm Jenkins - OSU - CB8. New Orleans - Dan Conner - LB - PSU9. Baltimore - MAtt Ryan - QB - BC10. Kansas City - Kenny Phillips - S - UM11. Minnesota - Andre Woodson - QB - UK12. Carolina - Michael Oher - OT - Ole Miss13. Chicago - Ryan Clady - OT - BSU14. Arizona - Sedric Ellis - DT - USC15. Houston - Jamal Charles - RB - UT16. Buffalo - Alex Boone - OT - OSU17. Denver - James Laurinaitis - LB - USC18. San Diego - Vernon Gholston - DE 19. Philadelphia - Antoine Cason - CB 20. Washington - Quentin Groves - DE - Auburn21. Seattle - Rashard Mendenhall - RB - UI22. Dallas (via Cle) - DeSean Jackson - WR - Cal 23. Tampa Bay - Ray Rice - RB - Rutgers24. Tennessee - Malcolm Kelly - WR - Oklahoma25. Detroit - Mike Jenkins - CB - USF26. Pittsburgh - Sam Baker - OT - USC27. Jacksonville - Derrick Harvey - DE - UF28. NY Giants - Keith Rivers - LB - USC29. San Fransisco (via Indy) - Steve Slaton - RB - WVU30. Green Bay - Jonathan Stewart - RB - WVU31. Dallas - DeJuan Tribble - CB - BC

Why do you think Miami takes the Offensive Tackle?

I could see the Dolphins taking the LSU beast DT

 

[Spike]

Why do you think Miami takes the Offensive Tackle?

Because he's REALLY stinking good, I think that Beck will get his chance, and they aren't taking McFadden. Okam or Dorsey will likely merit consideration, but a 12 year anchor LT is hard to pass up.

I don't know Colin. They already have Vernon Carey who was a 1st rd pick and the one thing Miami has had a positive from this year was the OL. I would say Dorsey to replace Keith Traylor is a better fit.

This was my original thought as well, and several Dolphin fans seem to feel this way. DL needs more help than OL.

If the Dolphins stay at #1 and do not take Jake Long and the Patriots *do* have the #2 overall pick, I would have to wonder what King's Ransom they would be able to get for Long?

 

[Liquid Tension]

BTW, the Dolphin OL is not good, even if they have been better than last year.

When you lose at least 13 games, you take the best player available and you don't even think about need as far as I am concerned.

Dorsey seems like the best IMO plus it is a need. If an OT was the best player I would take him.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

If there's one position SF doesnt need its RB

Would like to hear your reasoning here Colin???

That's probably the fishing.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'd flip Dorsey and Long.

Gholston will go higher than that.

A couple reaches, but otherwise good job.

Edit: Wait. KC doesn't draft for the o-line? Really?

 

[WampusCat43]

Cin-cin-nati. Say it with me. Like the pick, though, although I don't think they end up picking 6th.

Woodson to Minnesota, combined with that running game/OL, would be terrific for the Vikes. I'd much rather see him there than Baltimore or Atlanta.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Woodson to Minnesota, combined with that running game/OL, would be terrific for the Vikes. I'd much rather see him there than Baltimore or Atlanta.

I'd like to see them draft any of those three QBs. My choice is Brohm.

 

[sheerterror]

Based on this mock, if Jamal Charles comes out and goes to Houston, does he become RB1 in drafts next year over McFadden going to Atl? I think you can make a case for Mendenhall in Seattle too.

 

[Boston]

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the Pats traded down and gathered more assets. Yet, the perception that this is something they always do isn't quite correct. The one time they had a top 10 pick in the BB/Pioli era they took Seymour at #6 in 2001. They have also traded up in the first round to land Graham in 2002 and Warren in 2003. Obviously they have traded down and/or for future picks as well. It's become very apparent that the Pats are pretty much impossible to guess come draft time but I would not completely rule out them using that pick if they feel that's their best value.

 

[Max Power]

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the Pats traded down and gathered more assets. Yet, the perception that this is something they always do isn't quite correct. The one time they had a top 10 pick in the BB/Pioli era they took Seymour at #6 in 2001. They have also traded up in the first round to land Graham in 2002 and Warren in 2003. Obviously they have traded down and/or for future picks as well. It's become very apparent that the Pats are pretty much impossible to guess come draft time but I would not completely rule out them using that pick if they feel that's their best value.

I would see the pats trading down due more to contract concers rather than value concerns.

 

[Spike]

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the Pats traded down and gathered more assets. Yet, the perception that this is something they always do isn't quite correct. The one time they had a top 10 pick in the BB/Pioli era they took Seymour at #6 in 2001. They have also traded up in the first round to land Graham in 2002 and Warren in 2003. Obviously they have traded down and/or for future picks as well. It's become very apparent that the Pats are pretty much impossible to guess come draft time but I would not completely rule out them using that pick if they feel that's their best value.

I would see the pats trading down due more to contract concers rather than value concerns.

 

[RedRaiders]

17. Denver - James Laurinaitis - LB - USC

This looks like a steal. DJ Williams if this happens.

23. Tampa Bay - Ray Rice - RB - Rutgers

This one is a major head-scratcher on several levels. I'm not sure Ray Rice is a first rounder, although I love the kid. But Tampa? Really?

They have Caddy and now Earnest Graham. Surely they have more pressing needs.

Is Caddy really going to be a factor next year? If Graham was a sure fire NFL starter week in and week out, I could see your statement but they could certainly use hel back there.

 

[RudeDog]

Nice job, however could you elaborate on why you think the Raiders will take McFadden when they will have Michael Bush available for next year ? I would expect the Raiders to beef up their offensive line first.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Nice job, however could you elaborate on why you think the Raiders will take McFadden when they will have Michael Bush available for next year ? I would expect the Raiders to beef up their offensive line first.

The same simple reason the Vikings took AP when they had Chet Taylor - he's better.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

26. Pittsburgh - Sam Baker - OT - USC

Bingo. Finally we have a bingo.It took the Jets game for "others" to see what the discerning Steeler fans have known since camp. Tackle-Guard-Center, it all works.

 

[zamboni]

Even in a rich RB draft, six of them in the first round seems a stretch. More often than not, RBs slip in the draft.

 

[RudeDog]

Nice job, however could you elaborate on why you think the Raiders will take McFadden when they will have Michael Bush available for next year ? I would expect the Raiders to beef up their offensive line first.

The same simple reason the Vikings took AP when they had Chet Taylor - he's better.

If McFadden is better than Bush, which is questionable, the difference is probably minimal. If you want to compare with the Vikings then look at the OL. Raiders need to improve there, that need is much more pressing.

 

[jurb26]

Even in a rich RB draft, six of them in the first round seems a stretch. More often than not, RBs slip in the draft.

You can go ahead and replace at least 2 of those RBs with CBs right now. RB = low draft value. CB = high draft value. Supply and demand always wins out.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

26. Pittsburgh - Sam Baker - OT - USC

Bingo. Finally we have a bingo.It took the Jets game for "others" to see what the discerning Steeler fans have known since camp. Tackle-Guard-Center, it all works.

Baker may be a fringe first rounder now. He has injury concerns.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Nice job, however could you elaborate on why you think the Raiders will take McFadden when they will have Michael Bush available for next year ? I would expect the Raiders to beef up their offensive line first.

The same simple reason the Vikings took AP when they had Chet Taylor - he's better.

If McFadden is better than Bush, which is questionable, the difference is probably minimal. If you want to compare with the Vikings then look at the OL. Raiders need to improve there, that need is much more pressing.

Sorry buddy. McFadden is WAY better than Bush.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

26. Pittsburgh - Sam Baker - OT - USC

Bingo. Finally we have a bingo.It took the Jets game for "others" to see what the discerning Steeler fans have known since camp. Tackle-Guard-Center, it all works.

Baker may be a fringe first rounder now. He has injury concerns.

True, but if its not Baker, it will be in the same direction.As of today Baker is as good a choice/placeholder as anyone.IMO it will very likely be the top ranking guard after the bowl and combines.

 

[jurb26]

26. Pittsburgh - Sam Baker - OT - USC

Bingo. Finally we have a bingo.It took the Jets game for "others" to see what the discerning Steeler fans have known since camp. Tackle-Guard-Center, it all works.

Baker may be a fringe first rounder now. He has injury concerns.

Baker will fly up the draft board after UCS has their pro day. I'd love to have him, but I don't see it as being realistic.

 

[sheerterror]

26. Pittsburgh - Sam Baker - OT - USC

Bingo. Finally we have a bingo.It took the Jets game for "others" to see what the discerning Steeler fans have known since camp. Tackle-Guard-Center, it all works.

Baker may be a fringe first rounder now. He has injury concerns.

True, but if its not Baker, it will be in the same direction.As of today Baker is as good a choice/placeholder as anyone.IMO it will very likely be the top ranking guard after the bowl and combines.

Aside from Faneca, who does Pittsburgh need to replace on the OL?

 

[RudeDog]

Nice job, however could you elaborate on why you think the Raiders will take McFadden when they will have Michael Bush available for next year ? I would expect the Raiders to beef up their offensive line first.

The same simple reason the Vikings took AP when they had Chet Taylor - he's better.

If McFadden is better than Bush, which is questionable, the difference is probably minimal. If you want to compare with the Vikings then look at the OL. Raiders need to improve there, that need is much more pressing.

Sorry buddy. McFadden is WAY better than Bush.

Bush was the best RB in college before his injury, he was outperforming AD. I don't agree with your assessment of McFadden in relation to Bush, you're selling Bush short.

 

[jurb26]

26. Pittsburgh - Sam Baker - OT - USC

Bingo. Finally we have a bingo.It took the Jets game for "others" to see what the discerning Steeler fans have known since camp. Tackle-Guard-Center, it all works.

Baker may be a fringe first rounder now. He has injury concerns.

True, but if its not Baker, it will be in the same direction.As of today Baker is as good a choice/placeholder as anyone.IMO it will very likely be the top ranking guard after the bowl and combines.

Aside from Faneca, who does Pittsburgh need to replace on the OL?

Umm, RT. The glaring weakness they have had there since training camp.

 

[sheerterror]

26. Pittsburgh - Sam Baker - OT - USC

Bingo. Finally we have a bingo.It took the Jets game for "others" to see what the discerning Steeler fans have known since camp. Tackle-Guard-Center, it all works.

Baker may be a fringe first rounder now. He has injury concerns.

True, but if its not Baker, it will be in the same direction.As of today Baker is as good a choice/placeholder as anyone.IMO it will very likely be the top ranking guard after the bowl and combines.

Aside from Faneca, who does Pittsburgh need to replace on the OL?

Umm, RT. The glaring weakness they have had there since training camp.

So I take it the future is bleak for Willie Colon? I'm a Hofstra alum so I was curious about how he's been doing.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Bush was the best RB in college before his injury, he was outperforming AD. I don't agree with your assessment of McFadden in relation to Bush, you're selling Bush short.

How was he outperforming him when they were both on the bench with season ending injuries?If you think Bush is that good, then of course they don't take McFadden. I think you're overrating Bush.Never the 'twian shall meet, I guess.

 

[yellowdog]

Bush was the best RB in college before his injury, he was outperforming AD. I don't agree with your assessment of McFadden in relation to Bush, you're selling Bush short.

How was he outperforming him when they were both on the bench with season ending injuries?If you think Bush is that good, then of course they don't take McFadden. I think you're overrating Bush.Never the 'twian shall meet, I guess.

If Bush is that good, why did he last to the 4th round, injured or not?

 

[jurb26]

26. Pittsburgh - Sam Baker - OT - USC

Bingo. Finally we have a bingo.It took the Jets game for "others" to see what the discerning Steeler fans have known since camp. Tackle-Guard-Center, it all works.

Baker may be a fringe first rounder now. He has injury concerns.

True, but if its not Baker, it will be in the same direction.As of today Baker is as good a choice/placeholder as anyone.IMO it will very likely be the top ranking guard after the bowl and combines.

Aside from Faneca, who does Pittsburgh need to replace on the OL?

Umm, RT. The glaring weakness they have had there since training camp.

So I take it the future is bleak for Willie Colon? I'm a Hofstra alum so I was curious about how he's been doing.

I'd say it is, but he is still young so maybe he can grow into the position.