Hernandez convicted of first-degree murder; found deceased in his cell. (4 Viewers)

[dickey moe]

He might be one of the dumbest dudes on the planet.

 

[The Flying Elvis]

Sean Kelly/Staff @SeanKellyTV

Shell casing found under driver's seat in AH rental car. #Hernandez #wcvb

How can anyone be that stupid.

This defense attorney is comedy.

Did he open with a knock-knock joke too?

Close.....he asked for bail based on him being a homeowner

To the lawyers defense, there isn't really much he could argue upon for bail. Basically for bail hearings you bring up a defendants ties to the community, job, family, criminal history etc. Not much you can go off of.

 

[cstu]

God it must suck to be a defense attorney when you know you've got a dog of a case and still have to argue with what you've got.

And when you know your client is as guilty as sin, right?

Rich client that no one expects to be found not guilty. There are much, much worse positions for an attorney.

On your knees facing away from Hernandez?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Defense attorneys look scared, immediately attacking the media circus, using the fact he is a "homeowner" as a reason to let him out on bail.

I wouldn't have any idea, but I assume that's some standard jargon for teh situation they use for everyone

 

[QuizGuy66]

Hope you Junior G-Men put away your badges now. You've really embarrassed yourselves in this thread.

I dunno, I think I did better than most. And my badge is made of tinfoil anyway

-QG

 

[Mr Non Sequitur]

Did they provide a motive? I was only able to hear some of the arraignment.

Smack talk at a night club

 

[KCitons]

God it must suck to be a defense attorney when you know you've got a dog of a case and still have to argue with what you've got.

And when you know your client is as guilty as sin, right?

Rich client that no one expects to be found not guilty. There are much, much worse positions for an attorney.

On your knees facing away from Hernandez?

too soon?

 

[jurb26]

Did they provide a motive? I was only able to hear some of the arraignment.

From what I gathered AH basically ordered a hit on him because he "couldn't be trusted." It was tough to make out as the broadcast kind of went in and out. Someone deal free to correct.....

 

[QuizGuy66]

His lawyer looks like the most laywerish lawyer of all lawyers. Seriously.

-QG

 

[Ron_Mexico]

" he's a home owner"

 

[HellToupee]

God it must suck to be a defense attorney when you know you've got a dog of a case and still have to argue with what you've got.

And when you know your client is as guilty as sin, right?

Rich client that no one expects to be found not guilty. There are much, much worse positions for an attorney.

As long as he's getting paid I doubt he cares

 

[massraider]

Reading off of the minute by minute account is impressive. It really goes to show you how much technology is making it a lot tougher to get away with stuff.

I really thought that smashing his phone was kind of silly. If you are doing all this stuff after the fact, it's too late, man.

 

[moderated]

Hernandez planned the murder out great, tracked minute by minute and carries around guns before/after the murder when he knows he has a surveillance system.

A premeditated murder where his planning was laughable.

 

[The Flying Elvis]

Defense attorneys look scared, immediately attacking the media circus, using the fact he is a "homeowner" as a reason to let him out on bail.

I wouldn't have any idea, but I assume that's some standard jargon for teh situation they use for everyone

Basically. Arguments for defendants in bail are basically all the same. Married, kids, works in the area, owns a home, etc.

 

[lod01]

He might be one of the dumbest dudes on the planet.

You could now argue that this dude's greatest accomplishment was getting to age 23 before being imprisoned.

 

[cstu]

He might be one of the dumbest dudes on the planet.

The crazy part is that I didn't have a clue he was anything close to this bad of a guy. Earlier this year it was coin flip to take him or Nicks in a startup. Chose Nicks but it easily would have been Hernandez.

 

[RavenLunatic]

Drop

 

[GoBirds]

Tried to listen in at work but couldn't follow everything....are they saying premeditated based on proof that AH was upset over a confrontation they had in Boston, maybe the one reported that happened a couple months ago?

Anyone have a good summary.....besides hes ####ed.

 

[tombonneau]

He might be one of the dumbest dudes on the planet.

You could now argue that this dude's greatest accomplishment was getting to age 23 before being imprisoned.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

This defense attorney is comedy.

I thought he did a great job.

 

[KCitons]

Hernandez planned the murder out great, tracked minute by minute and carries around guns before/after the murder when he knows he has a surveillance system.

A premeditated murder where his planning was laughable.

The only thing he forgot was to have surveillance record the delivery of his gun in an ACME box.

 

[unckeyherb]

what a tough guy

 

[massraider]

Hope you Junior G-Men put away your badges now. You've really embarrassed yourselves in this thread.

I dunno, I think I did better than most. And my badge is made of tinfoil anyway

-QG

My favorites were the 'read-between-the-lines' types.

"If the cops had anything, why haven't they arrested him yet, huh? Huh????"

Jesus, they had so much on him, I think the delay was to make sure they had the RIGHT FLAVOR OF GUM HE WAS CHEWING when he capped the poor guy.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

He might be one of the dumbest dudes on the planet.

The crazy part is that I didn't have a clue he was anything close to this bad of a guy. Earlier this year it was coin flip to take him or Nicks in a startup. Chose Nicks but it easily would have been Hernandez.

ahhhh....forgot I was in the shark pool for a min

 

[Spin]

Reading off of the minute by minute account is impressive. It really goes to show you how much technology is making it a lot tougher to get away with stuff.

I really thought that smashing his phone was kind of silly. If you are doing all this stuff after the fact, it's too late, man.

Or just leave your cell phone at home all night, and claim you never left. Instant alibi!

 

[jurb26]

He might be one of the dumbest dudes on the planet.

You could now argue that this dude's greatest accomplishment was getting to age 23 before being imprisoned.

AH strikes me as a guy who thought he was above the law and got sloppy. Not really stupid, which makes it worse IMO.

 

[GoBirds]

This defense attorney is comedy.

I thought he did a great job.

I thought throwing in home owner as why someone accused of murder should get bail was an eye opener.

 

[unckeyherb]

Tried to listen in at work but couldn't follow everything....are they saying premeditated based on proof that AH was upset over a confrontation they had in Boston, maybe the one reported that happened a couple months ago?

Anyone have a good summary.....besides hes ####ed.

basically, the victim was with AHern at a club last week and at some point was talking to a group of guys that Hernandez had a problem with. I'm sure there's more to it than that, but that was the gist of the explanation..

 

[massraider]

Reading off of the minute by minute account is impressive. It really goes to show you how much technology is making it a lot tougher to get away with stuff.

I really thought that smashing his phone was kind of silly. If you are doing all this stuff after the fact, it's too late, man.

Or just leave your cell phone at home all night, and claim you never left. Instant alibi!

I know you are kidding, but this case is a great reminder that we/you/me are on camera.

After the charges, I walked down 15th St, to 7th Ave, went in a store, got some bread, and walked back. About 100 yards total. Probably photographed six times, MINIMUM.

 

[Amused to Death]

what a tough guy

I'm sure the inmates in GP will be eager to find out how tough. He'll be traded nightly for a pack of smokes. "see how tough the NFL dude is".

 

[Ron_Mexico]

This defense attorney is comedy.

I thought he did a great job.

When you don't have a leg to stand you claim that..... "he owns a house".

 

[unckeyherb]

This defense attorney is comedy.

I thought he did a great job.

I thought throwing in home owner as why someone accused of murder should get bail was an eye opener.

I think thats pretty standard..

 

[Sinn Fein]

This defense attorney is comedy.

I thought he did a great job.

I thought throwing in home owner as why someone accused of murder should get bail was an eye opener.

Pretty standard basis for bail imo. You have to show roots in the community as a basis for non-flight risk, and home ownership is a pretty standard way to show that.

 

[buck naked]

What do you call 20 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

A Good Start.

My wish that you are one of them.

 

[RUSF18]

Hope you Junior G-Men put away your badges now. You've really embarrassed yourselves in this thread.

I dunno, I think I did better than most. And my badge is made of tinfoil anyway

-QG

My favorites were the 'read-between-the-lines' types.

"If the cops had anything, why haven't they arrested him yet, huh? Huh????"

Jesus, they had so much on him, I think the delay was to make sure they had the RIGHT FLAVOR OF GUM HE WAS CHEWING when he capped the poor guy.

Would have laughed very hard at this if it was under different circumstances.

 

[HellToupee]

This defense attorney is comedy.

I thought he did a great job.

can only play the cards that are dealt

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Ex-Patriot Aaron Hernandez has been charged with first-degree murder in the death of Odin Lloyd, and is facing five additional gun charges.
Hernandez has pled not guilty, but is being held without bail. We are not legal scholars — it's surreal for a fantasy football site to have to cover such a senseless and macabre event — but the evidence the Attleboro District Court has collected against Hernandez over the past week appears damning bordering on overwhelming. Hernandez is alleged to have erased 6-8 hours of video footage from his home-security system, and was reportedly caught on tape saying "you can't trust anyone anymore" before picking Lloyd up on the night of the murder. He was also caught on film walking through his home with a gun after the murder is alleged to have taken place, and reportedly left behind a shell-casing in a rental car. The prosecution believes Hernandez "orchestrated" the murder. This is just the first day of what is going to be a long and drawn out legal process, but the odds are remarkably high that Hernandez has played his last down of NFL football.

 

[Mr Non Sequitur]

The .22 was recovered from Florida linked to the guy he shot in the eye in Feb.

 

[The Flying Elvis]

This defense attorney is comedy.

I thought he did a great job.

I thought throwing in home owner as why someone accused of murder should get bail was an eye opener.

There isn't much you can honestly say. You don't argue the facts of the case really but more of the likelihood of flight. All the same stuff comes up with all hearings. Owning a home or living in the area is a pretty common argument.

 

[massraider]

This defense attorney is comedy.

I thought he did a great job.

I thought throwing in home owner as why someone accused of murder should get bail was an eye opener.

Pretty standard basis for bail imo. You have to show roots in the community as a basis for non-flight risk, and home ownership is a pretty standard way to show that.

That attorney, Fee, is the real deal, one of the top guys in Boston. He's no clown.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Seriously... was there more than five minutes that passed where they weren't seen on camera?


I never thought OJ would beat the rap so anything is possible I guess, but sure seems pretty obvious that he killed him.

 

[dickey moe]

Would like to know if the Pats had a psych profile conducted for Hernandez before he was signed and before he was given an extension.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

so whats the motive? odin smack talked? geez

 

[RUSF18]

what a tough guy

I'm sure the inmates in GP will be eager to find out how tough. He'll be traded nightly for a pack of smokes. "see how tough the NFL dude is".

Ignoring all the man-rape potential, I really wonder if at some point, the thought of "####, I'm never going to experience ##### again" ran through Hernandez's head.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Reading off of the minute by minute account is impressive. It really goes to show you how much technology is making it a lot tougher to get away with stuff.

I really thought that smashing his phone was kind of silly. If you are doing all this stuff after the fact, it's too late, man.

Or just leave your cell phone at home all night, and claim you never left. Instant alibi!

I know you are kidding, but this case is a great reminder that we/you/me are on camera.

After the charges, I walked down 15th St, to 7th Ave, went in a store, got some bread, and walked back. About 100 yards total. Probably photographed six times, MINIMUM.

paparazzi are everywhere

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Sean Kelly/Staff @SeanKellyTV

Shell casing found under driver's seat in AH rental car. #Hernandez #wcvb

Worst criminal ever.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

What do you call 20 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

A Good Start.

My wish that you are one of them.

lolz

but I doubt he's a lawyer

 

[jurb26]

Ok, so I got to ask. Where and what has happened to the other 2 guys?

 

[PatsFanCT]

Hope you Junior G-Men put away your badges now. You've really embarrassed yourselves in this thread.

I dunno, I think I did better than most. And my badge is made of tinfoil anyway

-QG

My favorites were the 'read-between-the-lines' types.

"If the cops had anything, why haven't they arrested him yet, huh? Huh????"

Jesus, they had so much on him, I think the delay was to make sure they had the RIGHT FLAVOR OF GUM HE WAS CHEWING when he capped the poor guy.

Would have laughed very hard at this if it was under different circumstances.

Or if, ya know, someone really said that. massraider likes to pump his chest, and sometimes he gets carried away.

 

[David Dodds]

In prison, Hernandez will be a mantle piece. You are king of the block when he is your #####. Had he gotten bail, I think we would have seen a suicide. For me, this story is officially over. Hernandez won't ever play in the NFL again. All that talent and money, yet he chose to be a thug. Wasteful.