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Hernandez convicted of first-degree murder; found deceased in his cell. (1 Viewer)

3nOut said:
Just my .02.

Best case scenario: 6 game suspension

Worst case scenario: 30 - Life
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This is my thinking to. As a dynasty owner I'm holding and hoping for a 4-6 game suspension as the realistic best case.

 
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Steve Silva‏@stevesilva4m

Hearing via law enforcement source that Aaron Hernandez will be arrested in connection with the North Attleborough murder

 
After just finishing a book about the Duke lacrosse fiasco, I'm well aware that a rush to judgment should be avoided at all costs. But I'd be shocked if he avoided conspiracy and accessory charges at the very least.

 
Bronx Bomber said:
3nOut said:
Just my .02.

Best case scenario: 6 game suspension

Worst case scenario: 30 - Life
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This is my thinking to. As a dynasty owner I'm holding and hoping for a 4-6 game suspension as the realistic best case.
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This was my first instinct as well. But I don't trust this guy. Two possible shootings within Months. Its a sign that he doesnt get it. Just being in those situations, regardless if he pulled the trigger either time is enough for me to wash my hands of him.

 
Max Power said:
Bronx Bomber said:
3nOut said:
Just my .02.

Best case scenario: 6 game suspension

Worst case scenario: 30 - Life
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This is my thinking to. As a dynasty owner I'm holding and hoping for a 4-6 game suspension as the realistic best case.
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This was my first instinct as well. But I don't trust this guy. Two possible shootings within Months. Its a sign that he doesnt get it. Just being in those situations, regardless if he pulled the trigger either time is enough for me to wash my hands of him.
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Man, people are trading him for 3rd round picks. He is a HOLD if there ever was one.

 
ghostguy123 said:
werdnoynek said:
KCitons said:
Don Quixote said:
Steve Silva‏@stevesilva4m

Hearing via law enforcement source that Aaron Hernandez will be arrested in connection with the North Attleborough murder
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Goodell's ears just perked up.
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and at least ghostguy will stop #####ing about him not being arrested yet.
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Not till he is actually arrested.

Glad I own this idiot a couple places. Sure helped me out a lot injured and in prison for life.
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Nice to see you're coming around and admitting he may actually be in trouble here. Welcome to the party.

 
Max Power said:
Sinn Fein said:
Dr. Octopus said:
Norman Paperman said:
:shrug:

Guys are out partying, leave the bar to score some pot, deal goes bad, dude gets shot, everyone else hightails it home.
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They decide its better to get out of the car and run a mile home?
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As opposed to driving the bloody car back to your house? Yeah, I could see someone leaving the car where it was and later claiming the victim took the car on his own.
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Did they ever say he was shot inside a car?
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There's been no mention of blood inside the car (although its possible not every detail has been released).

 
Like someone else posted already, my guess would be a drug deal gone sour. They go to meet the dealer(s) after partying, deal goes bad, and the guy gets shot. Hernandez and the other guys panic and flee the scene. They don't go back for the car in fear that something happens to them too. Also it's a lot easier to escape on foot, then risk being involved in a car chase, and possible shootout with the dealer(s). So they walk/run back to his house and call it a night.

That's the only plausible scenario that could have happened in my opinion. If Hernandez or the 2 other guys shot the dude, I doubt they'd be stupid enough to leave his body out in the open, and abandon the rental car (that's in Hernandez's name) near the scene. Don't make any sense.

 
jurb26 said:
Frank Black said:
My criminal law experience as a criminal defense attorney and later for the state tells me that we need to know a lot more facts. I suppose it's fun for people to speculate but the reality of the courtroom is a lot different. Based on what I've read so far, I have no opinion one way or the other right now about whether he's guilty.

It will be interesting to see what facts come to light. One thing I've learned over the years from observation and from a few of my own cases is that often, you will not learn some of the most important facts from the media.
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Good perspective here, thanks.

At the very least I see this as a distraction that hurts AH on the field and perhaps in the eyes on NE coaches/management. At worst, well we already know.... He never plays again. Either way he is downgraded pretty heavily at this point IMO.
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For FF purposes, I would be wary of him until further notice.

 
Fantasy Fool said:
Like someone else posted already, my guess would be a drug deal gone sour. They go to meet the dealer(s) after partying, deal goes bad, and the guy gets shot. Hernandez and the other guys panic and flee the scene. They don't go back for the car in fear that something happens to them too. Also it's a lot easier to escape on foot, then risk being involved in a car chase, and possible shootout with the dealer(s). So they walk/run back to his house and call it a night.

That's the only plausible scenario that could have happened in my opinion. If Hernandez or the 2 other guys shot the dude, I doubt they'd be stupid enough to leave his body out in the open, and abandon the rental car (that's in Hernandez's name) near the scene. Don't make any sense.
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This is a bit ridiculous. Fleeing a murderous drug dealer on foot is preferable to a car chase? No thanks. You run, I'll take the car.

 
pantagrapher said:
Fantasy Fool said:
Like someone else posted already, my guess would be a drug deal gone sour. They go to meet the dealer(s) after partying, deal goes bad, and the guy gets shot. Hernandez and the other guys panic and flee the scene. They don't go back for the car in fear that something happens to them too. Also it's a lot easier to escape on foot, then risk being involved in a car chase, and possible shootout with the dealer(s). So they walk/run back to his house and call it a night.

That's the only plausible scenario that could have happened in my opinion. If Hernandez or the 2 other guys shot the dude, I doubt they'd be stupid enough to leave his body out in the open, and abandon the rental car (that's in Hernandez's name) near the scene. Don't make any sense.
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This is a bit ridiculous. Fleeing a murderous drug dealer on foot is preferable to a car chase? No thanks. You run, I'll take the car.
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Run in a zig zag pattern.

 
dickey moe said:
dickey moe said:
Mr Non Sequitur said:
A lot of late night radio focused on this story and while you never want to rush to judgement, things are not looking good. Just the information coming out about the incident in Feb down in Miami, apparently guy is int he car with Hernandez, "something" happens and a gun is fired, guy loses his eye, we don't know all the facts but certainly that should have been the shake up moment for him but instead it would appear the reverse happened and Hernandez is feeling like he can do anything he wants. Even if he was just in the car with the other three people and eventually one of them ends up dead and the body is dumped in a ravine, this all sounds pretty awful and if charges are brought they likely will be against all three including Hernandez.

You hate to rush to any conclusions but it's not that far fetched to think that we might have seen the last of Hernandez in an NFL uniform and at the least he is looking at a big zero for 2013, no way he would be allowed to take the field with these charges pending.
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I have no dog in this fight, but what are these "charges" pending against Hernandez?
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I assume police will charge him in some form with this murder.

 
pantagrapher said:
Fantasy Fool said:
Like someone else posted already, my guess would be a drug deal gone sour. They go to meet the dealer(s) after partying, deal goes bad, and the guy gets shot. Hernandez and the other guys panic and flee the scene. They don't go back for the car in fear that something happens to them too. Also it's a lot easier to escape on foot, then risk being involved in a car chase, and possible shootout with the dealer(s). So they walk/run back to his house and call it a night.

That's the only plausible scenario that could have happened in my opinion. If Hernandez or the 2 other guys shot the dude, I doubt they'd be stupid enough to leave his body out in the open, and abandon the rental car (that's in Hernandez's name) near the scene. Don't make any sense.
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This is a bit ridiculous. Fleeing a murderous drug dealer on foot is preferable to a car chase? No thanks. You run, I'll take the car.

fter
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How is it a bit ridiculous? Let's say Hernandez didn't know the dealers, this was setup by Odin Lloyd. The dealer(s) don't even know who Hernandez or the other 2 men are. After the deal went sour, Odin get's shot, and the 3 other guys scatter and run out of panic. Are you going to risk going back to the car, and having them follow you home, so the dealer(s) know where you live, and who you are? That seems a bit ridiculous.

And why would Hernandez rent a car, if they weren't going to do something shady? Because he wouldn't show up to a drug deal driving his own car with his "Herndz" license plate. Again this is speculation at this point, but from what's been presented, that's the only plausible scenario I can think of.

 
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So Putin's guys get them to pull over about a mile from his house and shoot this guy. They tell them if they ever tell the real story that all of their families will die. After naming about the 8th family member and their address/phone number, they instruct Hernandez and the other two to beat feet.

 
Fantasy Fool said:
pantagrapher said:
Fantasy Fool said:
Like someone else posted already, my guess would be a drug deal gone sour. They go to meet the dealer(s) after partying, deal goes bad, and the guy gets shot. Hernandez and the other guys panic and flee the scene. They don't go back for the car in fear that something happens to them too. Also it's a lot easier to escape on foot, then risk being involved in a car chase, and possible shootout with the dealer(s). So they walk/run back to his house and call it a night.

That's the only plausible scenario that could have happened in my opinion. If Hernandez or the 2 other guys shot the dude, I doubt they'd be stupid enough to leave his body out in the open, and abandon the rental car (that's in Hernandez's name) near the scene. Don't make any sense.
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This is a bit ridiculous. Fleeing a murderous drug dealer on foot is preferable to a car chase? No thanks. You run, I'll take the car.

fter
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How is it a bit ridiculous? Let's say Hernandez didn't know the dealers, this was setup by Odin Lloyd. After the deal went sour, Odin get's shot, and the 3 other guys scatter and run out of panic. Are you going to risk going back to the car, and having them follow you home, so the dealer(s) know where you live, and who you are? That seems a bit ridiculous.And why would Hernandez rent a car, if they weren't going to do something shady? Because he wouldn't show up to a drug deal driving his own car with his "Herndz" license plate. Again this is speculation at this point, but from what's been presented, that's the only plausible scenario I can think of.
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Yeah, going back to that car would be beyond stupid.
 
PatsFanCT said:
This thread needs to be moved to the "Crazy Speculation" forum.
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It really isn't wild speculation. CBS Sports radio last night and and Ferrall on the bench were going over this last night, listened to him for over an hour and much of it on Hernandez. He has nothing against the guy and the evidence and what is trickling out in reports does not sound good. You can call it wild speculation if you want but there is more to it than that.

 
jurb26 said:
Fantasy Fool said:
pantagrapher said:
Fantasy Fool said:
Like someone else posted already, my guess would be a drug deal gone sour. They go to meet the dealer(s) after partying, deal goes bad, and the guy gets shot. Hernandez and the other guys panic and flee the scene. They don't go back for the car in fear that something happens to them too. Also it's a lot easier to escape on foot, then risk being involved in a car chase, and possible shootout with the dealer(s). So they walk/run back to his house and call it a night.

That's the only plausible scenario that could have happened in my opinion. If Hernandez or the 2 other guys shot the dude, I doubt they'd be stupid enough to leave his body out in the open, and abandon the rental car (that's in Hernandez's name) near the scene. Don't make any sense.
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This is a bit ridiculous. Fleeing a murderous drug dealer on foot is preferable to a car chase? No thanks. You run, I'll take the car.

fter
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How is it a bit ridiculous? Let's say Hernandez didn't know the dealers, this was setup by Odin Lloyd. After the deal went sour, Odin get's shot, and the 3 other guys scatter and run out of panic. Are you going to risk going back to the car, and having them follow you home, so the dealer(s) know where you live, and who you are? That seems a bit ridiculous.And why would Hernandez rent a car, if they weren't going to do something shady? Because he wouldn't show up to a drug deal driving his own car with his "Herndz" license plate. Again this is speculation at this point, but from what's been presented, that's the only plausible scenario I can think of.
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Yeah, going back to that car would be beyond stupid.
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All three guys getting out of the car in the first place would be beyond stupid. This entire scenario is beyond stupid.

 
Mr Non Sequitur said:
PatsFanCT said:
This thread needs to be moved to the "Crazy Speculation" forum.
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It really isn't wild speculation. CBS Sports radio last night and and Ferrall on the bench were going over this last night, listened to him for over an hour and much of it on Hernandez. He has nothing against the guy and the evidence and what is trickling out in reports does not sound good. You can call it wild speculation if you want but there is more to it than that.
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Do you read any other posts but your own?

... well, and this one.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Turn out the lights. The party is over.
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Ron Burgundy: Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean, that really got out of hand fast! ...

Aaron Hernandez: Yeah, I shot a guy in the eye.

Ron Burgundy: I saw that! Aaron killed a guy! Did you throw a trident?

Aaron Hernandez: Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.

Ron Burgundy: Aaron, I’ve been meaning to talk to you about that. You should probably find yourself a safe house or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you’re probably wanted for murder.

 
KCitons said:
pantagrapher said:
Fantasy Fool said:
Like someone else posted already, my guess would be a drug deal gone sour. They go to meet the dealer(s) after partying, deal goes bad, and the guy gets shot. Hernandez and the other guys panic and flee the scene. They don't go back for the car in fear that something happens to them too. Also it's a lot easier to escape on foot, then risk being involved in a car chase, and possible shootout with the dealer(s). So they walk/run back to his house and call it a night.

That's the only plausible scenario that could have happened in my opinion. If Hernandez or the 2 other guys shot the dude, I doubt they'd be stupid enough to leave his body out in the open, and abandon the rental car (that's in Hernandez's name) near the scene. Don't make any sense.
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This is a bit ridiculous. Fleeing a murderous drug dealer on foot is preferable to a car chase? No thanks. You run, I'll take the car.
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Run in a zig zag pattern.
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I lol'd.

 
pantagrapher said:
jurb26 said:
Fantasy Fool said:
pantagrapher said:
Fantasy Fool said:
Like someone else posted already, my guess would be a drug deal gone sour. They go to meet the dealer(s) after partying, deal goes bad, and the guy gets shot. Hernandez and the other guys panic and flee the scene. They don't go back for the car in fear that something happens to them too. Also it's a lot easier to escape on foot, then risk being involved in a car chase, and possible shootout with the dealer(s). So they walk/run back to his house and call it a night.

That's the only plausible scenario that could have happened in my opinion. If Hernandez or the 2 other guys shot the dude, I doubt they'd be stupid enough to leave his body out in the open, and abandon the rental car (that's in Hernandez's name) near the scene. Don't make any sense.
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This is a bit ridiculous. Fleeing a murderous drug dealer on foot is preferable to a car chase? No thanks. You run, I'll take the car.

fter
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How is it a bit ridiculous? Let's say Hernandez didn't know the dealers, this was setup by Odin Lloyd. After the deal went sour, Odin get's shot, and the 3 other guys scatter and run out of panic. Are you going to risk going back to the car, and having them follow you home, so the dealer(s) know where you live, and who you are? That seems a bit ridiculous.And why would Hernandez rent a car, if they weren't going to do something shady? Because he wouldn't show up to a drug deal driving his own car with his "Herndz" license plate. Again this is speculation at this point, but from what's been presented, that's the only plausible scenario I can think of.
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Yeah, going back to that car would be beyond stupid.
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All three guys getting out of the car in the first place would be beyond stupid. This entire scenario is beyond stupid.
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Stupid is leaving a rental car near the scene of the crime? If it was a drug deal gone bad, then Hernandez should have just notified the police. They were gonna find the car anyway and all roads led back to AH

 
matttyl said:
Sinn Fein said:
Turn out the lights. The party is over.
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Ron Burgundy: Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean, that really got out of hand fast! ...Aaron Hernandez: Yeah, I shot a guy in the eye.

Ron Burgundy: I saw that! Aaron killed a guy! Did you throw a trident?

Aaron Hernandez: Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.

Ron Burgundy: Aaron, Ive been meaning to talk to you about that. You should probably find yourself a safe house or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because youre probably wanted for murder.
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Lol no kidding, I was just thinking about this scene as I read thru all of this!

 
"So, Mr. Belichick, sir. I can't help but notice you are going to be one TE short this season. I was just thinking, because you said there is no way in H.E. double hockey sticks that I'll ever play QB in this organization, that maybe, if you would be so kind, I could kinda' maybe try out for the open position. If you could see it in your heart to let me try of course. I feel I am an extremely athletic person, and can make an impact on the team. God willing."

- Tim Tebow

 
This whole situation is surreal........ :o harkens back to O.J. and Rae Carruth......

A previous perceived "deep" tight end pool is quickly shrinking

 
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