Heroin (1 Viewer)

[Patrick Bateman]

It's an epidemic here in Cincinnati. No family is immune. It's like early 90's Seattle. :( :(

 

[Ladsud]

What is the deal with synthetic marijuana? Never had this stuff when I was growing up, why not just smoke a real joint?

 

[Your Mother's Twin Sister]

Makes you poop IMO

 

[BustedKnuckles]

What is the deal with synthetic marijuana? Never had this stuff when I was growing up, why not just smoke a real joint?

remember kids ....weed is a gateway drug to much more enjoyable drugs

 

[McGarnicle]

Where??

 

[Deepster]

What is the deal with synthetic marijuana? Never had this stuff when I was growing up, why not just smoke a real joint?

You can buy the synthetic stuff at a gas station. It's apparently legal.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

What is the deal with synthetic marijuana? Never had this stuff when I was growing up, why not just smoke a real joint?

You can buy the synthetic stuff at a gas station. It's apparently legal.

And you dont fail a drug test for weed

 

[McGarnicle]

Synthetic cannabis may precipitate psychosis and in some cases it may be prolonged. Some studies suggest that synthetic cannabinoid intoxication is associated with acute psychosis, worsening of previously stable psychotic disorders, and it may trigger a chronic (long-term) psychotic disorder among vulnerable individuals such as those with a family history of mental illness. Synthetic Cannabis is stated to be more toxic to the brain and more addictive than regular cannabis.

Sounds amazing.

 

[Mors Venit]

What is the deal with synthetic marijuana? Never had this stuff when I was growing up, why not just smoke a real joint?

You can buy the synthetic stuff at a gas station. It's apparently legal.

And you dont fail a drug test for weed

Nope just the test of good sense

 

[Hooper31]

I have family in west central rural PA. Both my brothers there tell me it's a serious problem. One of my nephews has an addiction problem and is facing doing time related to heroin.

 

[Brony]

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[Higgs]

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FUPA

 

[Buckfast 1]

Official heroin epidemic thread:

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/728158-the-opiate-and-heroin-epidemic-in-america/

 

[timschochet]

It's a serious problem, but so far only Hillary and Bernie are willing to talk about it, so far as I know. It has come up in both of their debates. It has not gone up in a single Republican debate.

 

[cstu]

Decriminalize and spend money on treatment instead.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Brother is an addict. I think he's off the H but still on the methadone.

 

[shadyridr]

Epidemic here in staten island too. A lot of blue collar city employees (nypd, nyfd, sanitation, long shoremen) can't get the pain pills anymore due to tighter restrictions and heroin is cheaper now.

 

[Zow]

Definitely seeing a spike in heroin cases over the last few years. Essentially has taken over the prescription drug trade because it's cheaper.

 

[SameSongNDance]

My sister was an addict, she's currently clean and doing okay. My best friend was an addict, he's four years clean, has a job, girlfriend etc. etc.

I have a handful of friends addicted to pain pills still. Growing up we all experimented with essentially everything but some people just got stuck. Personally, I absolutely cannot stand being jammed, I hate the feeling.

As for synthetic weed, some of the worst #### I've ever tried. I've tried it three times and each time I became super paranoid. ####### awful stuff.

 

[eoMMan]

Don't start doing it and you can't get hooked.

Make sense?

 

[cstu]

Don't start doing it and you can't get hooked.

Make sense?

It does, but there's a lack of education about the slippery slope from pain pills to heroin.

 

[YSR]

SIL currently in rehab in FL. She will likely be dead within a year.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Don't start doing it and you can't get hooked.

Make sense?

It does, but there's a lack of education about the slippery slope from pain pills to heroin.

I don't understand this. Regular guy gets hooked on prescriptions then one day decides, hey, Heroin! Just going to call up my local dealer!

 

[McGarnicle]

My sister was an addict, she's currently clean and doing okay. My best friend was an addict, he's four years clean, has a job, girlfriend etc. etc.

I have a handful of friends addicted to pain pills still. Growing up we all experimented with essentially everything but some people just got stuck. Personally, I absolutely cannot stand being jammed, I hate the feeling.

As for synthetic weed, some of the worst #### I've ever tried. I've tried it three times and each time I became super paranoid. ####### awful stuff.

Percocet for me is basically the best I've ever felt in my life. That scares me enough to never consider trying heroin. I can completely understand how people get hooked on it.

 

[shadyridr]

Don't start doing it and you can't get hooked.

Make sense?

It does, but there's a lack of education about the slippery slope from pain pills to heroin.

I don't understand this. Regular guy gets hooked on prescriptions then one day decides, hey, Heroin! Just going to call up my local dealer!

heroin is much cheaper

 

[shadyridr]

Yeah doc prescribed me Vicodin for my back a few years back and it was amazing. Just gave me a great relaxed and euphoric feeling. After a little while one stopped doing the trick and I had to take two. I made sure that script lasted months. Then my wife got some Vicodins for a procedure she had and she didn't use them. I rationed that script over several months. That was over two years ago and I still wish I had a script laying around. There's not a night that goes by after a long stressful day where I don't wish I could just pop one. I can totally see how people get addicted.

 

[renesauz]

Huge spike where I live too. Murders up 80% as well :(

 

[Gamma1210]

Don't start doing it and you can't get hooked.

Make sense?

It does, but there's a lack of education about the slippery slope from pain pills to heroin.

I don't understand this. Regular guy gets hooked on prescriptions then one day decides, hey, Heroin! Just going to call up my local dealer!

Yeah it happens. Lost a good friend to the downward spiral.

 

[cstu]

Don't start doing it and you can't get hooked.

Make sense?

It does, but there's a lack of education about the slippery slope from pain pills to heroin.

I don't understand this. Regular guy gets hooked on prescriptions then one day decides, hey, Heroin! Just going to call up my local dealer!

heroin is much cheaper

Solution: Make pain pills cheaper than heroin.

 

[cstu]

Yeah doc prescribed me Vicodin for my back a few years back and it was amazing. Just gave me a great relaxed and euphoric feeling. After a little while one stopped doing the trick and I had to take two. I made sure that script lasted months. Then my wife got some Vicodins for a procedure she had and she didn't use them. I rationed that script over several months. That was over two years ago and I still wish I had a script laying around. There's not a night that goes by after a long stressful day where I don't wish I could just pop one. I can totally see how people get addicted.

As I explained to my nephew when he was young - people do drugs because they are awesome...unfortunately so awesome they will destroy your life (specifically heroin).

 

[cstu]

My sister was an addict, she's currently clean and doing okay. My best friend was an addict, he's four years clean, has a job, girlfriend etc. etc.

I have a handful of friends addicted to pain pills still. Growing up we all experimented with essentially everything but some people just got stuck. Personally, I absolutely cannot stand being jammed, I hate the feeling.

As for synthetic weed, some of the worst #### I've ever tried. I've tried it three times and each time I became super paranoid. ####### awful stuff.

Percocet for me is basically the best I've ever felt in my life. That scares me enough to never consider trying heroin. I can completely understand how people get hooked on it.

Never messed with pain killers but I did take hydrocodone while having an extremely terrible bout of the flu and felt like a million bucks! Literally was up doing anything I wanted without feeling sick at all.

 

[Apple Jack]

Don't start doing it and you can't get hooked.

Make sense?

It does, but there's a lack of education about the slippery slope from pain pills to heroin.

I don't understand this. Regular guy gets hooked on prescriptions then one day decides, hey, Heroin! Just going to call up my local dealer!

The "prescriptions" for all intents and purposes are heroin. Only much more expensive and much harder to get. And you seem to have no appreciation whatsoever for the gravity of the word "hooked."

 

[Rick James]

My cousin just got out of rehab for heroin. It's been about 6 months. He has a job and seems to be back on his feet, but it was rough for a minute. It got to a point where he'd show up to a family function and you could just look in his eyes and tell he was ####ed up.

Now, sober, he described heroin as the best feeling in the world. Said other drugs don't come close.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Don't start doing it and you can't get hooked.

Make sense?

It does, but there's a lack of education about the slippery slope from pain pills to heroin.

Serious question though. A lot of folks say people need to be "educated". Isn't just like smoking? Everyone knows it isn't good for you. How can someone not know Heroin is a bad idea?

 

[Michael Brown]

Two of my closest cousins both on my mom's side (so we were all like brothers) were both heroin addicts about 18 years ago for a period of several years, except we only knew about one of them. That one was getting into a ton of fights, getting arrested repeatedly, just nothing but trouble for a long time. The other we thought was just smoking weed and drinking, typical 16 year old stuff. Then he set fire to a house while high, was arrested for breaking and entering, and was sentenced to do actual prison time. Was diagnosed with clinical depression, and things spiraled down lightning quick. Shortly before prison sentencing, he was checked into a rehab facility. Apparently someone snuck some smack into the place. He couldn't resist, OD'd and died. The other one was scared sufficiently enough to straighten himself out. He said there are more drugs in the rehab facilities than there is on the streets. But he made it through, and has since joined the marines, has a great wife, and from all accounts has been clean and sober for 15 years.

What they put the families through, I would never wish on my worst enemy.

 

[Zow]

Don't start doing it and you can't get hooked.

Make sense?

It does, but there's a lack of education about the slippery slope from pain pills to heroin.

Serious question though. A lot of folks say people need to be "educated". Isn't just like smoking? Everyone knows it isn't good for you. How can someone not know Heroin is a bad idea?

I think it's more the education arguably one should get when he's prescribed a serious pain pill: in essence that the pain pills can be addictive and oftentimes addicts to pain pills turn to heroin when their prescriptions run dry.

 

[eoMMan]

Don't start doing it and you can't get hooked.

Make sense?

It does, but there's a lack of education about the slippery slope from pain pills to heroin.

Serious question though. A lot of folks say people need to be "educated". Isn't just like smoking? Everyone knows it isn't good for you. How can someone not know Heroin is a bad idea?

I think it's more the education arguably one should get when he's prescribed a serious pain pill: in essence that the pain pills can be addictive and oftentimes addicts to pain pills turn to heroin when their prescriptions run dry.

I agree that there should be more education on how the pain pills but at the end of the day, it's on the user to take them responsibly. If the doc says to take 2 at the maximum per day and you're tossing them back like skittles, sorry....but that's on you. If the pain is too much, go back to the doctor.

I know this a tough subject and several people here will disagree with me but most of these issues (pain pill and heroin addiction) start with the individual and they should be held responsible. Education really only goes so far.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Don't start doing it and you can't get hooked.

Make sense?

It does, but there's a lack of education about the slippery slope from pain pills to heroin.

Serious question though. A lot of folks say people need to be "educated". Isn't just like smoking? Everyone knows it isn't good for you. How can someone not know Heroin is a bad idea?

I think it's more the education arguably one should get when he's prescribed a serious pain pill: in essence that the pain pills can be addictive and oftentimes addicts to pain pills turn to heroin when their prescriptions run dry.

I agree that there should be more education on how the pain pills but at the end of the day, it's on the user to take them responsibly. If the doc says to take 2 at the maximum per day and you're tossing them back like skittles, sorry....but that's on you. If the pain is too much, go back to the doctor.I know this a tough subject and several people here will disagree with me but most of these issues (pain pill and heroin addiction) start with the individual and they should be held responsible. Education really only goes so far.

Whoa like hey maaaaaaan, you mean hold people accountable for their own decisions?????? Are you high maaaayane?

 

[LAUNCH]

Heroin: Cape Cod, USA on HBO was pretty crazy how these kids just won't stop.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Don't start doing it and you can't get hooked.

Make sense?

It does, but there's a lack of education about the slippery slope from pain pills to heroin.

I don't understand this. Regular guy gets hooked on prescriptions then one day decides, hey, Heroin! Just going to call up my local dealer!

heroin is much cheaper

Solution: Make pain pills cheaper than heroin.

Pretty sad when Big Pharm asks for more money than the local drug dealer.

 

[cstu]

I think it's more the education arguably one should get when he's prescribed a serious pain pill: in essence that the pain pills can be addictive and oftentimes addicts to pain pills turn to heroin when their prescriptions run dry.

I agree that there should be more education on how the pain pills but at the end of the day, it's on the user to take them responsibly. If the doc says to take 2 at the maximum per day and you're tossing them back like skittles, sorry....but that's on you. If the pain is too much, go back to the doctor.

I know this a tough subject and several people here will disagree with me but most of these issues (pain pill and heroin addiction) start with the individual and they should be held responsible. Education really only goes so far.

It's almost like humans are...gasp, human.

 

[Wooderson]

Don't start doing it and you can't get hooked.

Make sense?

It does, but there's a lack of education about the slippery slope from pain pills to heroin.

I don't understand this. Regular guy gets hooked on prescriptions then one day decides, hey, Heroin! Just going to call up my local dealer!

heroin is much cheaper

Solution: Make pain pills cheaper than heroin.

Pretty sad when Big Pharm asks for more money than the local drug dealer.

Guessing big pharm has more overhead.

 

[cstu]

Guessing big pharm has more overhead.

Oxycodone was invented in 1917 in Germany.

 

[SproutDaddy]

It's bad here in Memphis. I personally have lost 2 friends in the past year. Both much younger than myself, at 25. I've been connected to at least 15 people that have died from OD in the past 5 years.

 

[comfortably numb]

This is my biggest fear as a parent.

 

[eoMMan]

This is my biggest fear as a parent.

Bigger than your kid murdering someone?

 

[cstu]

Abuse-proof Oxycontin pushing addicts to heroin.

The dirty secret, therefore, is that prescription drug misuse is safer than heroin use — not because the inherent overdose or addiction risk is any lower with prescription opioids, but because these drugs come in known doses with specific ingredients and often involve contact with a medical doctor. Consequently, instead of viewing addicts as criminals who con doctors and deserve to be cut off — and instead of focusing on clever technologies to defeat their attempts to get high — we should be looking at why they so desperately want to take drugs to escape in the first place.

The most effective known treatment for opioid addiction is maintenance treatment with another opioid, typically methadone or buprenorphine (Suboxone, Subutex). Such treatment reduces the spread of blood-borne disease, cuts crime and saves lives better than any other known method. It may be that the maintenance opioids help treat depression or act as a salve for some other underlying problem, allowing some people to function better on the drugs than off. Whatever the case, people can and do lead full, productive loving lives of recovery while taking these medications. Add appropriate counseling, job training and psychiatric medication where needed and you can sometimes see even better results.

Rather than driving prescription opioid misusers to the illegal heroin market, then, we should be pushing them in the other direction: trying to get as many opioid addicts as possible into the medical system and using opioids themselves in treatment when necessary. It may seem counterintuitive, but effective strategies often are.

 

[Wooderson]

Guessing big pharm has more overhead.

Oxycodone was invented in 1917 in Germany.

Good to know. Doesn't change anything.

 

[cstu]

Guessing big pharm has more overhead.

Oxycodone was invented in 1917 in Germany.

Good to know. Doesn't change anything.

High overhead making a generic drug?

 

[Steed]

My sister was an addict, she's currently clean and doing okay. My best friend was an addict, he's four years clean, has a job, girlfriend etc. etc.

I have a handful of friends addicted to pain pills still. Growing up we all experimented with essentially everything but some people just got stuck. Personally, I absolutely cannot stand being jammed, I hate the feeling.

As for synthetic weed, some of the worst #### I've ever tried. I've tried it three times and each time I became super paranoid. ####### awful stuff.

Percocet for me is basically the best I've ever felt in my life. That scares me enough to never consider trying heroin. I can completely understand how people get hooked on it.

Never messed with pain killers but I did take hydrocodone while having an extremely terrible bout of the flu and felt like a million bucks! Literally was up doing anything I wanted without feeling sick at all.

Hydrocodone=pain killerWay to go!