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Lots of interesting possibilities set up in last night's episode. I'm thinking that Saul is planning to use Brody during phase 2 of his plan for Iran, but that could be wrong. Problems with Carrie's baby due to her being shot?

Thought it was great when Saul kicked the Senator out of the briefing because of his lack of security clearance.

Did Saul's wife's boyfriend install surveillance equipment in their home? Thought at first he was trying to steal files from the computer.
Doubtful a real spook would be using his personal computer at home for top-secret communications. I thought the guy might try to bug the home, but it doesn't look like that's what he was doing.
:confused:

That's exactly what he was doing.
Looks like the mouse he put in is a bug and probably a keylogger.

The Saul's wife plot is just as stupid and unnecessary as the Brody family storylines.
:lmao:

 
This show has reached 24 territory sadly. Season 1, was so well scripted that no one cared how crazy it all was. (thinking back now, 2 US Soldiers were turned to the dark side?!? haha)

This season is horrible in terms of being a top drama, but I dont mind if its like these past few episodes since they are at least somewhat entertaining when not wasting time on Dana but Saul's wife is just as grating.

I cant believe how poor the writing is, just little things like the conversation that the Arab chick had with her father where he says you still working at your job and she says "yeah, the financial bank" it was so clear that this was meant for the viewers to fill us on in her lie to her father instead of feeling natural in the conversation.

And Sepinwall is completely right that the lover of Saul's annoying wife is just an absolute nonsensical long con being played by the dude. He was going to sleep with her just on the off chance that she gets back together with Saul so he can snoop on them? By him being her lover, he was discouraging her from ever going back to Saul!

Attention Writers...Enough with Dana and Mrs. Saul, just bring in Jack Bauer and Chloe and have fun with this show.

 
The chick with the towel on her head is friggin gorgeous.

Someone return my many favors and go find me nudes of her while I watch the rest of this episode.

 
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The chick with the towel on her head is friggin gorgeous.

Someone return my many favors and go find me nudes of her while I watch the rest of this episode.
Read somewhere that she freaked out while dating Tom Cruise. Turned out someone told her she was part of a sort of "casting call" to become a future Mrs. Cruise. Tom was auditioning wives I guess. That was a few years ago I think. Makes me hate than closet dude even more.

Oh yeah, she is hot too.

ETA: some of that story -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2449257/SPOILER-Homeland-star-Nazanin-Boniadi-vetted-Tom-Cruises-wife.html

 
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That was a classic homeland episode. Top secret missions, office politics, wtf moments, and crazy carrie trying to botch another mission. Loved it

 
Finally watched Sunday's EP.

It's amazing how much Carrie drags down the show. You've got a pretty well-crafted thriller/drama/spy show and then all of a sudden here comes Danes acting like a drunk 17 year old girl that found out her boyfriend is talking to another girl at a party. I wish Quinn would have head-shotted her and then teabagged her like in COD.

 
Carrie was definitely frustrating as hell this week. Even though we know she is off her meds because of the pregnancy it is incredibly hard to forgive her for almost botching the mission for the stupidest possible reason.

 
Finally watched Sunday's EP.

It's amazing how much Carrie drags down the show. You've got a pretty well-crafted thriller/drama/spy show and then all of a sudden here comes Danes acting like a drunk 17 year old girl that found out her boyfriend is talking to another girl at a party. I wish Quinn would have head-shotted her and then teabagged her like in COD.
:lmao:

I was rooting for Quinn to shoot her

 
"One Last Time" is, like much of season 3, utterly nonsensical. If you think about Saul's insane plan to stage a secret coup of Iran, about Carrie's ability to take the world's most wanted terrorist on two separate field trips to see (and then talk to) his daughter, about the mechanics of Alain Bernard seducing Saul Berenson's estranged wife so far in the past, about Brody's ability to go from heroin-addled husk to useful fighting man in the space of a few weeks, it doesn't make a damn lick of sense.Yet despite that, and despite the ongoing trainwreck that is the show's writing for Carrie, I enjoyed it more than a lot of this season.

It's a big episode in a number of ways. It's the first time Carrie and Brody have been together all season, the first time Brody's seen Dana all season (and perhaps the last time he'll ever see her, whether he survives this crazy mission or not), the episode that lays out exactly what Saul's scheme entails, and the episode clearly laying out the season's endgame.

It's also the longest episode since the season premiere; where most of this season's installments have clocked in under 50 minutes (last week's was less than 47), "One Last Time" ran practically a full hour. I'm not a believer that more automatically equals better, and am often grateful when premium cable dramas don't insist on filling all 60 minutes just because they can, but this one made good use of the added time, allowing us to get a better sense of Brody's struggle with kicking heroin, and then the attempts to physically and psychologically rebuild him as something resembling the Marine he used to be. It's an absurd compression of time — Nazir spent years tearing Brody down and building him back up — but every character on the show is aware that they're doing this much more quickly than they should be (just as they were last season in "Q and A"), and you could at least feel the passage of this short period of time, even before the "Sixteen Days Later" subtitle.

And it helps an awful lot to have an actor like Damian Lewis to play Brody's pain and recovery. Lewis has, at times, played the role a little too big (most notably when Skyping with Nazir and assassinating the vice-president — which somehow has not been discussed of late by anyone with or around Brody — last season), but he was dialed in just right throughout this one, whether Brody was dealing with the pain of going cold turkey, or the hallucinations brought on by Dar Adal's illegal wonder drug, or simply trying to tune out Saul and Carrie. For the most part, it's clear the creative team (or Showtime executives, or both) made a big mistake not killing Brody two years ago, but from time to time, Lewis is so good you can at least understand the reluctance to sever his employment. Brody's return to America also breathed new life into Dana, who's always been a vastly more interesting character when dealing with her father than on her own.

After I watched "Tower of David," I felt like I'd be fine never seeing Brody again, but "One Last Time" did a good enough job of setting him up for this final, almost certainly suicidal, mission, that I accepted his return to the center of the narrative. Again, the plot makes no sense at all, but I think the "Homeland" logic ship sailed a long time ago, and I viewed the this week's gibberish as the cost of getting to watch Lewis do what he does so well.

Of course, at the end of that episode I was also wondering if I ever wanted to see Carrie be a major part of the show, and "One Last Time" was much less effective at changing my mind on that score. Carrie remains so blinded by her feelings for Brody, and by her general sense of victimhood, that I've reached the point where everything she does initially strikes me as stupid and self-destructive, even if at times (like taking Brody to talk to Dana) it doesn't turn into a disaster. At least the other characters repeatedly acknowledge what a disaster she is — I particularly liked Saul responding to one of her indignant queries with, "You know, the assumptions behind that question are so misguided, it frightens me." — but I can't imagine the series continuing for years with this person as its central character. It wasn't a good thing when so many viewers were happy to see her get shot last week, and though she helps get Brody back on track — and resists the urge to tell him she's carrying his baby — I don't like having to grit my teeth every time the heroine appears on screen, bracing myself for whatever dumb thing she will do or say next.

But the Brody material was strong enough to make "One Last Time" one of the more satisfying hours of season 3, and the first one in a while that has me interested in seeing what comes next, even if I believe none of it whatsoever.
 
That plan by Saul is beyond ######ed, yet I'm intrigued and pumped for the rest of the season.

I nearly spit out my drink when I saw Dana was a motel cleaning lady.

 
:shrug: I liked last night's episode. And however unrealistic Saul's plan is, it sounds a hell of a lot more interesting than some of the stupid stuff we've had to endure to date.

 
:shrug: I liked last night's episode. And however unrealistic Saul's plan is, it sounds a hell of a lot more interesting than some of the stupid stuff we've had to endure to date.
And what's the worst case scenario of the plan? A dead Brody? Who cares? Everyone thinks he's a villain. And even if Brody ends up a corpse, it's at the hand of the Iranians. It shows the extremists have no problem eating one of their own

 
If Showtime didn't kill him in season 1, they're not going to kill him now.

It's Showtime. We're getting 8 seasons of this ####. Brody and Carrie in Libya. Brody and Carrie in Lebanon. Brody and Carrie fighting FARC rebels. Brody and Carrie infiltrating a rogue gang of Inuits.

 
If Showtime didn't kill him in season 1, they're not going to kill him now.

It's Showtime. We're getting 8 seasons of this ####. Brody and Carrie in Libya. Brody and Carrie in Lebanon. Brody and Carrie fighting FARC rebels. Brody and Carrie infiltrating a rogue gang of Inuits.
At some point Brody and Carrie will have to save an offspring or two from a kidnapping

 
:shrug: I liked last night's episode. And however unrealistic Saul's plan is, it sounds a hell of a lot more interesting than some of the stupid stuff we've had to endure to date.
And what's the worst case scenario of the plan? A dead Brody? Who cares? Everyone thinks he's a villain. And even if Brody ends up a corpse, it's at the hand of the Iranians. It shows the extremists have no problem eating one of their own
Worst case is Brody being turned back to the Iranians.

 
If Showtime didn't kill him in season 1, they're not going to kill him now.

It's Showtime. We're getting 8 seasons of this ####. Brody and Carrie in Libya. Brody and Carrie in Lebanon. Brody and Carrie fighting FARC rebels. Brody and Carrie infiltrating a rogue gang of Inuits.
This show needs to end IMO.

 
Outside of the Carrie-Brody bubble, we have Lockhart getting caught red-handed sending an Israeli spy to the Acting Director of the CIA’s house and copying files from his work computer. Whaaa? So Lockhart hired Alain Bernard, or whatever his real name is, to seduce Saul’s wife, waited for months until a terrorist group killed 200 CIA agents and Saul got promoted to head the agency, then sent Bernard back into Saul’s house to recover some files on a mission Lockhart doesn’t approve of? Unless Lockhart knew the terrorist attack was coming – or he was the bomber himself – this makes no damn sense. - See more at: http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/homeland-review-season-3-episode-9-one-last-time.php#sthash.ZNyZOxnJ.dpuf
 
:shrug: I liked last night's episode. And however unrealistic Saul's plan is, it sounds a hell of a lot more interesting than some of the stupid stuff we've had to endure to date.
I liked it too.

Whether or not he should've been killed in S1, the show's better with him in it. Brody's great and Carrie/Brody are good together.

 
Outside of the Carrie-Brody bubble, we have Lockhart getting caught red-handed sending an Israeli spy to the Acting Director of the CIA’s house and copying files from his work computer. Whaaa? So Lockhart hired Alain Bernard, or whatever his real name is, to seduce Saul’s wife, waited for months until a terrorist group killed 200 CIA agents and Saul got promoted to head the agency, then sent Bernard back into Saul’s house to recover some files on a mission Lockhart doesn’t approve of? Unless Lockhart knew the terrorist attack was coming – or he was the bomber himself – this makes no damn sense. - See more at: http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/homeland-review-season-3-episode-9-one-last-time.php#sthash.ZNyZOxnJ.dpuf
Lockhart could have been eyeing the CIA directorship for no other reason than he was targeting that position.

 
Wow, greatest piece of acting I have seen the last ten years was by Dana in the hotel room. Just powerful, raw emotion there.

"What made you think I wanted to see you?"

Powerful.

 
Wow, greatest piece of acting I have seen the last ten years was by Dana in the hotel room. Just powerful, raw emotion there.

"What made you think I wanted to see you?"

Powerful.
Agreed, as far as it being a great piece of acting.

She's under-appreciated.

 
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Outside of the Carrie-Brody bubble, we have Lockhart getting caught red-handed sending an Israeli spy to the Acting Director of the CIA’s house and copying files from his work computer. Whaaa? So Lockhart hired Alain Bernard, or whatever his real name is, to seduce Saul’s wife, waited for months until a terrorist group killed 200 CIA agents and Saul got promoted to head the agency, then sent Bernard back into Saul’s house to recover some files on a mission Lockhart doesn’t approve of? Unless Lockhart knew the terrorist attack was coming – or he was the bomber himself – this makes no damn sense. - See more at: http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/homeland-review-season-3-episode-9-one-last-time.php#sthash.ZNyZOxnJ.dpuf
Lockhart could have been eyeing the CIA directorship for no other reason than he was targeting that position.
Saul would never have been the head of the CIA without the building being blown up. There was no reason for Lockhart to set up such an elaborate plan.

 
Outside of the Carrie-Brody bubble, we have Lockhart getting caught red-handed sending an Israeli spy to the Acting Director of the CIA’s house and copying files from his work computer. Whaaa? So Lockhart hired Alain Bernard, or whatever his real name is, to seduce Saul’s wife, waited for months until a terrorist group killed 200 CIA agents and Saul got promoted to head the agency, then sent Bernard back into Saul’s house to recover some files on a mission Lockhart doesn’t approve of? Unless Lockhart knew the terrorist attack was coming – or he was the bomber himself – this makes no damn sense. - See more at: http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/homeland-review-season-3-episode-9-one-last-time.php#sthash.ZNyZOxnJ.dpuf
Lockhart could have been eyeing the CIA directorship for no other reason than he was targeting that position.
Saul would never have been the head of the CIA without the building being blown up. There was no reason for Lockhart to set up such an elaborate plan.
That's assuming he was only spying on Saul.

 
Outside of the Carrie-Brody bubble, we have Lockhart getting caught red-handed sending an Israeli spy to the Acting Director of the CIA’s house and copying files from his work computer. Whaaa? So Lockhart hired Alain Bernard, or whatever his real name is, to seduce Saul’s wife, waited for months until a terrorist group killed 200 CIA agents and Saul got promoted to head the agency, then sent Bernard back into Saul’s house to recover some files on a mission Lockhart doesn’t approve of? Unless Lockhart knew the terrorist attack was coming – or he was the bomber himself – this makes no damn sense. - See more at: http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/homeland-review-season-3-episode-9-one-last-time.php#sthash.ZNyZOxnJ.dpuf
Lockhart could have been eyeing the CIA directorship for no other reason than he was targeting that position.
Saul would never have been the head of the CIA without the building being blown up. There was no reason for Lockhart to set up such an elaborate plan.
Or he found out about the relationship and made the guy spy for him. He didn't have to set up the whole thing from the beginning.

 
Outside of the Carrie-Brody bubble, we have Lockhart getting caught red-handed sending an Israeli spy to the Acting Director of the CIAs house and copying files from his work computer. Whaaa? So Lockhart hired Alain Bernard, or whatever his real name is, to seduce Sauls wife, waited for months until a terrorist group killed 200 CIA agents and Saul got promoted to head the agency, then sent Bernard back into Sauls house to recover some files on a mission Lockhart doesnt approve of? Unless Lockhart knew the terrorist attack was coming or he was the bomber himself this makes no damn sense. - See more at: http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/homeland-review-season-3-episode-9-one-last-time.php#sthash.ZNyZOxnJ.dpuf
Lockhart could have been eyeing the CIA directorship for no other reason than he was targeting that position.
Saul would never have been the head of the CIA without the building being blown up. There was no reason for Lockhart to set up such an elaborate plan.
Or he found out about the relationship and made the guy spy for him. He didn't have to set up the whole thing from the beginning.
Or its just more lazy writing.

 
The Senator was a rock last night.

"I know you had a listening device planted in my house."

"That's preposterous!!!"

"A couple of phone calls and this will be an international incident."

"Okay..... YOU GOT ME!"

 
Outside of the Carrie-Brody bubble, we have Lockhart getting caught red-handed sending an Israeli spy to the Acting Director of the CIAs house and copying files from his work computer. Whaaa? So Lockhart hired Alain Bernard, or whatever his real name is, to seduce Sauls wife, waited for months until a terrorist group killed 200 CIA agents and Saul got promoted to head the agency, then sent Bernard back into Sauls house to recover some files on a mission Lockhart doesnt approve of? Unless Lockhart knew the terrorist attack was coming or he was the bomber himself this makes no damn sense. - See more at: http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/homeland-review-season-3-episode-9-one-last-time.php#sthash.ZNyZOxnJ.dpuf
Lockhart could have been eyeing the CIA directorship for no other reason than he was targeting that position.
Saul would never have been the head of the CIA without the building being blown up. There was no reason for Lockhart to set up such an elaborate plan.
Or he found out about the relationship and made the guy spy for him. He didn't have to set up the whole thing from the beginning.
Or its just more lazy writing.
Yeah, gotta agree but I haven't been following the timeline closely, I didn't realize the wife with the guy before the CIA bombing.

 
Plan is preposterous, Brody/Carrie love affair 3.0 is insanely stupid, Israeli Spy bugging house AFTER all this time (why didnt he bug it weeks ago?) but having said all this, i actually enjoyed this past hour. It was silly 24 style television but I was not annoyed like I was the beginning of the year. You want Brody back in action and all Universal Soldier in five minutes of screen time after acting like he was a Walking Dead extra? Yep, I am fine with that, just show me some entertaining TV.

I also love how Saul sneaks off to Caracas or wherever he went to pay 10M bucks to get Brody, and he doesn't have to ask for the money in advance or clear it with anyone, just 10M bucks in a suitcase, thats pimpin!

 
Carrie not worried too much about her baby now that she has decided to be a smoker.
They'll bring in Carrie's real Mother who was a biker and then gave her up for adoption, then try to take it away from her with her son's motorcycle gang, who are now running guns into the Middle East.

 
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Some of you posters really need to use spoiler tags or else go open your own thread containing all the spoilers instead. This thread is for people who watch the show and not for people who search out spoilers on the internet. How rude.

 
For what they paid, you'd think they could've inserted a "no heroin" provision into whatever they wrote up.

:lmao: at Brody being in fighting shape after like two weeks.

 

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