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House of the Rising Sun (1 Viewer)

Apple Jack said:
Ha, that first video gave me Hard Time Killing Floor Blues as a suggestion. Another badass. Skip ####### James.
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In the movie...OH BROTHER WHERE ART THOU...there is Chris Thomas King (legit bluesman) playing the part of real life Delta legend....Tommy Johnson....who originated that "sold my soul at them crossroads"  story, sitting around the campfire pickin' n' singin' "Hard Time Killing Floor" as if that was a Tommy Johnson tune....ha~ 

My fav Skip James.."Devil Got My Woman".

 
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A few suggestions that I consider must listens if curious about them old blues.

Cairo....Henry Spaulding

Mississippi Jailhouse Groan....Rude Lacy****

James Alley Blues.....Rabbit Brown

Electric Chair Blues....Bessie Smith

Will leave it at that, a few ya might give a listen.

**** he only recorded one record before giving them blues up for the church.  He was one of the first Mississippi Delta players, a legend despite the feeble recording history.

Anyway....

He moved out here to Bakersfield Cali, he was a preacher in his church.  I live about 40 miles from there, and would love to meet a real legendary prewar bluesman, so it was find that church and.........found out he had died before I took off for Bakersfield....bummer😞

 
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ZenoRazon said:
Back when the The Animals first released the song on record I had never heard it before. Who had recorded it before The Animals that was well known by the masses?
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It wasn't mean't to be a rebuke.  It's just that I thought it was pretty well known that it wasn't an original to The Animals.  I really like the song so I did some research on it a while back, I was curious if there really was a place called The Rising Sun in New Orleans.

 
Foosball God said:
It wasn't mean't to be a rebuke.  It's just that I thought it was pretty well known that it wasn't an original to The Animals.  I really like the song so I did some research on it a while back, I was curious if there really was a place called The Rising Sun in New Orleans.
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Being just a kid back then I really don't think the general public was all that familiar with the song.  Sure in the musical biz.

I was into music for a kid.

 
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What I hate see is kids stuck with the right now, they have no interest at all in where anything came from.  And all they want to hear is rap/hiphop.  I listen to rap/hip hop, some of it is great, some isn't but that's true with all genres of music.

Variety.......the key word with music.  In a 24 hour period....

Hank Williams

Iggy Pop and The Stooges

The Ramones

Jimmy Reed

Nina Simone

Jellyroll Morton

Godspell

Days of the New

Dr. John

As we know there are thousands of artists out there, why limit yourself to just country, reggae, rap, bluegrass, funk, etc?

Earlier tonight it just had to be.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA9vKL0koaY

Haven't heard that song in a year, too many others in the way.

The big deal is the mix, what comes after and before, looking for a steady roll, a mood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7f2IlbEDno

rollin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdJx86b0wuc

 
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The next time ya find yourself all bummed out, and life just sucks, give this a listen if this doesn't cheer ya up..............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dasoLVINGTc

Alan Lomax worked for the Library of Congress, his job was finding talent, anyone who could play something or/and sing he recorded.  So he comes upon a church in Clarksdale Miss in 1942 and finds this..................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IavO1WUdjKw

Then there's the Nugrape Twins....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHRGXvfSu3s

 
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This has always been one of my favorite songs and I also own several versions of it. My fav is by Frigid Pink.

 
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Dr. Octopus said:
Robert?
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Most people think that, but no it was Tommy Johnson who recorded in 28, Robert showed up in 36.

Tommy Johnson

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Description

Tommy Johnson was an American Delta blues musician who recorded in the late 1920s and was known for his eerie falsetto voice and intricate guitar playing. He was unrelated to the blues musician Robert Johnson. Wikipedia

Born: 1896, Terry, MS

Died: November 1, 1956, Crystal Springs, MS

Genre: Delta blues

Albums: Cool Drink of Water Blues, Mr Johnson, Young and Living, MORE

Record labels: Paramount Records, Victor Talking Machine Company

 
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ZenoRazon said:
Hard to believe with my thang for music I 'd never heard Dylan/Van Ronk  perform the tune before The Animals.

I now own, that Clarence Asley original,**** covers by Georgia Turner 1937, Leadbelly, Bob Dylan, Waylon Jennings, The Animals, why I don't have Von Ronks version....????

**** off the computer
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Might as well add the Frijid Pink version

 
Battle of the Bands

Cream vs The Grateful Dead

The Turtles vs Three Dog Night

ZZ Top  vs Them

The Zombies vs The Allman Bros

Uriah Heep  vs The Band

The Doors vs Savoy Brown

The Animals vs The Guess Who

The Who vs Robin Trower

 
Mario Kart said:
Haley Reinhart sung it best. 
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She has some serious talent...but..

As we all know Bob Dylan would totally suck in some singing contest,  but what he does isn't about that.  Not unlike a John Lee Hooker, a Jimmy Reed.  Some songs aren't about golden vocals, they are more about a more earthy more whiskey soaked sound.

That make any sense?

Tom Waits can only do Tom Waits and he's great at what he does.

Imagine Tom Jones, Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Freddie Mercury, Chris Cornell trying to..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOyj4ciJk34

 
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ffldrew said:
That's not Curtis Mayfield - it's William DeVaughn - Be Thankful for What You Got

Here's a great version by the Super Group Dragon Smoke after a nice opening Valarie

https://youtu.be/sKUz5_eWrmQ
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Yep, good stuff coming from SGDS, had never heard them before.

Then there are other times when it just has to be.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMSRP3kpVMs

The original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hucTDV1Fvo

Eric Clapton has called Blind Willie the greatest slide man ever, he was huge in  roots music history.

His

"Soul of a Man"

Eric Burdon covering that classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyfqNS6umPA

The original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MdI2xPHw_k

That is Blind Willie McTell in that picture, he was a Georgia player, Johnson was a Texan.

McTell's  "Statesboro Blues" covered by the Allman Brothers.

Bob Dylan a big McTell fan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRmmWe9AKhw

If you saw Samuel E. Jackson in Black Snake Moan you got a good glimpse of them blues.

Here is the first male "star" of them blues Texan Blind Lemon Jefferson, who first recorded in 1926.

The original....Blake Snake Moan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3yd-c91ww8

Notice the tie is painted on and somebody else signed the picture.

He froze to death in the back seat of a car in Chicago. His driver never came back.

Cream covered Blind Willie Reynolds "Outside Woman Blues"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ig4IJgRjGU

The original, he also went by Joe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lomNaluJ-Tg

And it does go on and on..........

 
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Love this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFDYuO53BUk

....but, love this too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swhEa8vuP6U

Even Cowboys couldn't resist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sS5jSbV0Vg

The Original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqeW7-tmVU4

Or Stevie Ray Vaughn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVjdMLAMbM0

The Original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLd_ik4Qqqo

Shifting gears now.

I love that old hillbillie stuff, when it comes to that ya gotta have......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h_O6U1xMlc

He started out at Sun Records,  like Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins and is well know if ya like rockabilly/hillbilly.

Then there was this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpbISRyzbH0&list=RDLe6KBw75vOo&index=18

Love it all actually,  with the exception of the opera, don't like that but everything else will work.

The incomparable Harmonica Frank Floyd,  another in that Sun Records stable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAKJMbZXF1s

Could play the harmonica with his nose, ha~~~~~

 
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ZenoRazon said:
Anyone wanting to share any kind of music, cool. I heard someone new to me up there....Super Group Dragon Smoke.

A buddy turned me on to this band on a messageboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_XYNYmievg

I now own that CD.

First heard this on a messageboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4p0MaeSjJs

I now own that CD.
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Actually the Band is Dragon Smoke(should have put something between them) - it's a super group made up of Louisiana/New Orleans band members - Eric Lindell(check out his records), Rob Mecurio and Stanton Moore from Galactic (Stanton may just be one of the best drummers in the World today) - and Ivan Neville from Dumpstaphunk and who knows what other bands in NOLA. They only play a few shows a year - at Jazz Fest and around Christmas.

 
If you are really curious about this kind of thing, look up the history of “Hey Joe.”

Musically it borrows liberally From a folk song by Niela Miller who stated the originally credited author

lyrically, it’s a reworking of something called “Little Sadie” which has been borrowed for a bunch of songs

 
ffldrew said:
Actually the Band is Dragon Smoke(should have put something between them) - it's a super group made up of Louisiana/New Orleans band members - Eric Lindell(check out his records), Rob Mecurio and Stanton Moore from Galactic (Stanton may just be one of the best drummers in the World today) - and Ivan Neville from Dumpstaphunk and who knows what other bands in NOLA. They only play a few shows a year - at Jazz Fest and around Christmas.
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Got it and they should do more.

 
Rove! said:
If you are really curious about this kind of thing, look up the history of “Hey Joe.”

Musically it borrows liberally From a folk song by Niela Miller who stated the originally credited author

lyrically, it’s a reworking of something called “Little Sadie” which has been borrowed for a bunch of songs
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Weird but "Little Sadie" belongs to Clarence Ashley and he is also the one to record the orginal  "House of the Rising Sun"

Do know "Hey Joe" doesn't belong to Hendrix.

Will find the first recording.

I think this is it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PziiNzFWZog

How this got by me,?

 
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Bobby Grant was from......???  Yep, nobody knows for sure, just speculation.  He recorded but one record, and then....poof~~~...gone.

This is without question on a par with anyone in that prewar world, yet.....one.....record.  What happened, yep....nobody knows.  And he isn't alone, there were lot of shadows, mysteries in them old blues, guys who showed the talent then after a record or two....poof~~~~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO_UJYvWaJg

Rube Lacy another who only recorded one record and this side is in my opinion the best example of them Mississippi Delta blues ever on record. He got into the church and became a preacher and dumped that Devils music.  What a shame.

He moved out here to Cali and had a church in nearby Bakersfield, did have thoughts of finding him but he died before that happened.

This is as good as it gets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXktURH9oyc

 
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ZenoRazon said:
Weird but "Little Sadie" belongs to Clarence Ashley and he is also the one to record the orginal  "House of the Rising Sun"

Do know "Hey Joe" doesn't belong to Hendrix.

Will find the first recording.

I think this is it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PziiNzFWZog

How this got by me,?
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Below link mentions some of the history 

https://www.fretboardjournal.com/columns/song-week-how-baby-please-dont-go-town-became-hey-joe/

and even includes a link to the Niela Miller song that Billy Roberts kind of nicked melodically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEK2EDqxpcY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN7otqp3MfQ

edit: the Wikipedia entry on this is pretty thorough https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey_Joe

 
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Rove! said:
Below link mentions some of the history 

https://www.fretboardjournal.com/columns/song-week-how-baby-please-dont-go-town-became-hey-joe/

and even includes a link to the Niela Miller song that Billy Roberts kind of nicked melodically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEK2EDqxpcY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN7otqp3MfQ

edit: the Wikipedia entry on this is pretty thorough https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey_Joe
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Love this....

Niela Miller 2 years ago

Thanks for recognizing my song as the original impetus for Hey Joe (stolen from me by Billy Roberts, an old boyfriend)

.....ha~~~

But.....what Roberts did with it is really what we consider to be  "Hey Joe".

There was another "House of the Rising  Sun"  from 1928, but it's nothing like what we know as  the song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J_q0ly7sQE

That is the great Lonnie Johnson on guitar, Alexander played no instrument.

 
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Stack o' Lee,  Sragger Lee

Frankie and Johnny

John Henry

Others with an interesting  recording history.

Then there is.....Cocaine Blues

There is only one record of this classic in existence, it is the rarest record in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtzEqmL2IlU

Black Patti Records

Black Patti Records was a short-lived record label in Chicago founded by Mayo Williams in 1927. It was named after the black opera singer Matilda Sissieretta Joyner Jones, who was called Black Patti because some thought she resembled the Italian opera singer Adelina Patti. The label lasted seven months and produced 55 records.[1] The Black Patti peacock logo was used in the 1960s by Nick Perls for his Belzona and Yazoo labels.

At Paramount, Mayo Williams was a successful producer of race records, i.e., records made by black musicians to be sold to black customers. When he left Paramount to start Black Patti, he had no equipment, only his Chicago office. The records were pressed at Gennett Records in Richmond, Indiana. The catalog included jazz, blues, sermons, spirituals, and vaudeville skits, most but not all by black entertainers. Willie Hightower was among the musicians who recorded for the label. Williams closed the label before the end of 1927.

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Imagine finding a Black Patti record at a flea mart. yard sale.

 
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