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Houston Texans 2009 Season Thread (1 Viewer)
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coolnerd
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coolnerd
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http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/200..._a_look_at.html
Breaking down a big play against the Texans.
Breaking down a big play against the Texans.
coolnerd
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Even in the week with no Davis or Walter he really was not targeted that heavily. In a really deep return yardage league he is worth a player now and then, but I suspect that he will be hot or miss.
jsharlan
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I like how everyone wants to write off a team after 3 weeks. Im not going to give up or form an opinion on their season until at least the bye week. This guy must spend his time reading John McClain's emo tears.
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
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Texans | Henry expected to sign to practice squad (KFFL) Adam Caplan, of Scout.com, reports the Houston Texans are expected to sign unrestricted free-agent RB Chris J. Henry (Titans) to their practice squad, according to a source.
prymetyme25
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didn't even know they cut him. interesting
GregR_2
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According to the Chronicle, Reeves is expected to play for the first time this season, though Glover Quinn will get the start opposite Dunta.
Mario Williams is a GTD with a bruised shoulder, but Kubiak said it was looking good with him.
Nick Ferguson still out. Antwaun Molden practicing now but won't play.
Mario Williams is a GTD with a bruised shoulder, but Kubiak said it was looking good with him.
Nick Ferguson still out. Antwaun Molden practicing now but won't play.
jamil
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i hope he plays.
. i was hoping to see him get his first multi sack game this year.btw.. bulman in if marios out right?
coolnerd
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I think Bulman on run downs with Barwin as a poor pass rusher. Jamison from the practice squad might have a role somewhere in the mix.jamil said:i hope he plays.GregR said:. i was hoping to see him get his first multi sack game this year.btw.. bulman in if marios out right?
So there's been all this talk about how Slaton was a poor short yardage runner last year but it ought to be fairly obvious to everyone now that the O'line just can't get any kind of push.
I don't know if it was Kubiak or Kyle calling the plays on that final series, but that was just terrible. You've got to try to go to AJ or Slaton or Daniels at least once or maybe call a sneak. Chris Brown has no business being in on short yardage anymore.
The schedule loosens up later in the year, so there are some winnable games, but I'm seeing another 8-8 season of mediocrity at best in store for us.
I don't know if it was Kubiak or Kyle calling the plays on that final series, but that was just terrible. You've got to try to go to AJ or Slaton or Daniels at least once or maybe call a sneak. Chris Brown has no business being in on short yardage anymore.
The schedule loosens up later in the year, so there are some winnable games, but I'm seeing another 8-8 season of mediocrity at best in store for us.
coolnerd
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In a sense kubiak is right that if you are good team that you need to be able to get a yard when you need it, but you have two big strong WRs ( one which maybe the best in the NFL) and a high end pass catching TE. Might want a least try one of them when you get in the red zone. Sorry Manning and Brady have thrown tons of 1 and 2 yard TD passes. The object is to score the TD, not a test of manhood.
I could have sworn we had a wide open pass play on 3rd down. It's not Kubiak, or Shanahan, or whoever was calling the plays' fault that (1)Slaton couldn't do what he had to to make it into the end zone on the shovel pass (which was a beautiful play), (2)Schaub couldn't hit a wide open pass to Dreesen, (3)that the o-line couldn't get enough push on second or fourth down to get one measly yard.Our coaching woes obviously go beyond this game, and Kubiak is definitely on the hot seat. And, sure I'd have liked to see something more creative in hindsight. But, the playcalling was the least of our worries on Sunday and it left ample opportunity to tie that game up. If you want to divy up blame, how about looking at Schaub's pick 6 and missed play on third down at the goal line?
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coolnerd
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I think fans generally overrate oursleves as playcallers, but this has been a consistent theme with Kubiak, not just a single game. We have 2 games than did not get extended this year and were one of the worst redzone teams in 2008. While you should be able to line-up whip the guy in front you and make that yard, if you have a clear record being inconsistent in that facet, it maybe time to get the ball in the hands of the two or three best you have.I just had not gotten around to Schaub more than anything. He is frustrating because for as much as he did to put back in the game, he apparently, along with those two obvious mistakes made another one at a key time. If you read Kubiaks's press conference he should have read the coverage on the 4 and 1 in the third and either checked out of it or pulled the down trying get the yard some other way. In short, Schuab is a great stat complier and a good, but non-elite level QB. He makes mistakes seemingly more at the wrong time than in bunches.
Agreed on all accounts.On the TV broadcast they showed Kubiak irate after Schaub overthrew AJ on that 4th and 1 and talked about how Schaub failed to look at the underneath stuff when it was obvious AJ was blanketed.
GregR_2
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If you watch the replay, Leach is wide open up at the top of the field. No one even covered him. He'd have had an easy first down and probably picked up another 15 yards at least.
jsharlan
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I think fans are way too quick to blame playcalling in hindsight when something doesnt work out, and give it no credit when it does. While I do think the 4 and 1 play was not the right call, the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down plays were all good calls. If Matt makes that throw, the play call looks genius. I think alot of times the players failing to execute is the problem, and fans blame the coaches playcalling instead. The very fact they are repeatedly able to get down to the end zone tells me the playcalling is working, I think its the players that are failing. For some reason they dont have that " I want to win" attitude. Either you are Big Ben and you drive your team down to win a game, or you are the Texans and you make a last second mistake. The players are going to have to have a mental breakthrough that " I am sick of losing like this, I am going to go out here and win this damn game". The coaches cant go out there and win it for them. I believe Kubiak put them in a position to win, the players failed him.
Moving on to this week, I think this game is the closest thing to a must win for the team this season. If they are going to salvage this season they cant afford to lose here. They will be coming home afterwards to play a 49er team that will be coming off a bye, after a big loss, so they will be major fired up. Then you travel to NY where its bound to be a bit chilly against the Bills, and on the road to Indy. We really can not afford to lose to the Bengals. They are playing awesome, fired up after winning 3 straight division games. Its time someone else had a letdown game for once. The Texans NEED this game more than anything and the players are going to have to step up and decide they want it more.
Moving on to this week, I think this game is the closest thing to a must win for the team this season. If they are going to salvage this season they cant afford to lose here. They will be coming home afterwards to play a 49er team that will be coming off a bye, after a big loss, so they will be major fired up. Then you travel to NY where its bound to be a bit chilly against the Bills, and on the road to Indy. We really can not afford to lose to the Bengals. They are playing awesome, fired up after winning 3 straight division games. Its time someone else had a letdown game for once. The Texans NEED this game more than anything and the players are going to have to step up and decide they want it more.
had to snip this because there were too many Quote Boxes:
Lost in the ecstasy of the beat down on Oakland were quite a few mistakes made by the offense and defense as well. The biggest one to me was the late 2nd quarter fade to AJ in the endzone were Schaub badly underthrew it into double coverage.
Hopefully it didn't sound too much like I was ONLY blaming the play calling, there was plenty of blame to go around for the loss. The biggest to me is one even the announcers calling the game pointed out, which is Schaub just holds the ball too long most of the time which led to DRC's INT for a TD. Another is that 4th down run by Chris Brown when he both lowered his head & stutter-stepped into the line which is inexcusable for a short yardage runner. It was obvious he wasn't going to make it before he ever hit the line.
The next few games are do or die, we are dangerously close to being 2-7 or 3-6 going into the BYE.
Lost in the ecstasy of the beat down on Oakland were quite a few mistakes made by the offense and defense as well. The biggest one to me was the late 2nd quarter fade to AJ in the endzone were Schaub badly underthrew it into double coverage.
Hopefully it didn't sound too much like I was ONLY blaming the play calling, there was plenty of blame to go around for the loss. The biggest to me is one even the announcers calling the game pointed out, which is Schaub just holds the ball too long most of the time which led to DRC's INT for a TD. Another is that 4th down run by Chris Brown when he both lowered his head & stutter-stepped into the line which is inexcusable for a short yardage runner. It was obvious he wasn't going to make it before he ever hit the line.
The next few games are do or die, we are dangerously close to being 2-7 or 3-6 going into the BYE.
jsharlan
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ALL teams make mistakes throughout the game( Brady overthrew a wide open Randy Moss in the end zone), even the best teams. What matters is how you overcome those mistakes and find a way to win a game. This is why I dont like getting stuck on over analyzing mistakes and finger pointing too much, because that doesnt define whether they were bad or good performance in that game. No matter what happened before 2 mins left in the 4th quarter, the team was in a position to win, and they failed to execute. No matter of playcalling or player performance before that mattered, they had the destiny in their hands right there and they didnt want it bad enough.
coolnerd
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Not sure...We do not know much about Caldwell or White. The OL has been protected Schaub better than open holes in the run game. Still i would be surprised if becomes a negative in terms Schuab production.
GregR_2
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It was good to see the Hyde Texans team show up instead of the Jekyll Texans team.
One thing I was just noticing watching a replay from the game. How many times have we seen the Texans have a chance to put a game away with a turnover on defense only to go and try to make something out of it and fumble the ball back to the offense? Which to me is a sign of poor coaching when the game was already in the bag. Texans had a chance to screw it up again today but instead Demeco was yelling at Cushing to go down with the ball and Cushing listened. I hope that's going to be one of many signs the team may be better prepared than they have been in past years.
Defense has done pretty well the last 3 halves that they have played. Pretty well shut down the Cards and Bengals in the second half of both games. Need to get a running game going though. Every game I see Chris Brown in, the less I think I want to see him in the rotation at RB next year.
One thing I was just noticing watching a replay from the game. How many times have we seen the Texans have a chance to put a game away with a turnover on defense only to go and try to make something out of it and fumble the ball back to the offense? Which to me is a sign of poor coaching when the game was already in the bag. Texans had a chance to screw it up again today but instead Demeco was yelling at Cushing to go down with the ball and Cushing listened. I hope that's going to be one of many signs the team may be better prepared than they have been in past years.
Defense has done pretty well the last 3 halves that they have played. Pretty well shut down the Cards and Bengals in the second half of both games. Need to get a running game going though. Every game I see Chris Brown in, the less I think I want to see him in the rotation at RB next year.
Encouraging play yesterday indeed. Glad to see them go with the sneak on the 4th & 1 play. Slaton's fumbles are worrisome but anyone thinking he had lost a step were clearly not paying attention to the O'line play.
Chris Brown is a FA after this year, I'd be disappointed if we resign him. There's got to be better FA or rookie options to chose from. I imagine people will be making noise about us drafting another RB early but that seems like a luxury considering the state of our secondary.
Chris Brown is a FA after this year, I'd be disappointed if we resign him. There's got to be better FA or rookie options to chose from. I imagine people will be making noise about us drafting another RB early but that seems like a luxury considering the state of our secondary.
GregR_2
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I wasn't indicating that "fumbling" was a sign of poor coaching. The sign of poor coaching I was indicating was to "try to make something out of a turnover" when in a situation where just getting the ball back for the offense and letting them bleed time off improves your chances of winning more than does trying to advance the ball with the increased risk of turning it back over. In this game situation, it's better to just go down, give the ball back to your offense... hopefully they can rush for some first downs and run out the clock completely. Even if not, they can use up opponent timeouts and run down some clock and then punt and pin the opponent deep with less time left.I.e. Bengals game this year, 1:55 on the clock 4th quarter leading by 11. Cushing intercepts the ball. Do you want your players to have been coached that in this situation that if they get a turnover they should just fall on the ball and let the offense run down the clock? Or do you want your defensive player, who doesn't practice protecting the ball as a ball carrier, to try to run it back as far as he can? In this case as I mentioned, Demeco yelled at Cushing to go down and he did. Good play. Demeco, at least, knew what the best thing was for them to do. Offense picks up a first down and runs the clock out.I.e., Miami game last year. Texans up 23-21. Miami ball at their own 36 with 3:18 left and 1 timeout remaining. Eugene Wilson intercepts Pennington at midfield. Instead of just going down and giving the ball back to the offense to try to run the clock out, he tries to run it all the way back, gets in a swarm of players, doesn't protect the ball well, and Miami strips him and gets the ball back. Miami proceeds to score to take the lead. Luckily Houston had all 3 timeouts and was able to go score with 2 seconds left to win it. Had Wilson just gone down though, it is much more likely that wouldn't have been necessary.
coolnerd
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Jamie wilborn for special teams and depth
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/nfl...to_sign_winborn
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/nfl...to_sign_winborn
coolnerd
Footballguy
Another win today and I'm feeling pretty good about going into Buffalo next week. Let's hope AJ is okay.
Game was a mirror image of the game against the Cardinals and the same thing that let us back into that game let the 49'ers back into this one - inability to run the football. We needed to control the clock and keep the Niner offense off the field but were unable to do it. I don't blame Slaton (other than the major fumbling issues), we've got to upgrade the interior of the line next year.
I put a bid in on some PSL's to get some season tickets again. I just can't stay away.
Game was a mirror image of the game against the Cardinals and the same thing that let us back into that game let the 49'ers back into this one - inability to run the football. We needed to control the clock and keep the Niner offense off the field but were unable to do it. I don't blame Slaton (other than the major fumbling issues), we've got to upgrade the interior of the line next year.
I put a bid in on some PSL's to get some season tickets again. I just can't stay away.
bcr8f
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That sounds bad. He's one tough hombre. Texans coach Gary Kubiak revealed at his Monday press conference that Andre Johnson has a lung contusion."Hopefully, he'll be ready to go against Buffalo," Kubiak added, indicating some concern about A.J.'s status. Kubiak also said Johnson is "day to day," though he says that about all injured players. Johnson will likely miss some practice this week, and may come down to a game-time decision on Sunday.Source: Nick Scurfield on Twitter
Nate
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Great news but considering the Texans have got the Bills this week I'd almost like to see Andre take the week off and be fresh for Indy. Is a lung contusion the kind of injury that's easily aggravated?
coolnerd
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http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthrea...6203&page=5This poster is a medical doctor. The biggest risk is if the injury does not properly heal, which appears to be right around a week in most cases.
goldenchild
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GregR_2
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Even with the loss I feel the Texans are turning a corner as a team. They have a defense that is playing well. They held Indy to their third lowest score this year and a few points below the league average. The offense has some issues but can move the ball.
But more of what I'm talking about is I think the team believes they will win games now. Several times this year they've been down two scores or more and it hasn't seemed to get to them at all. And the coaching has been better. Still not perfect... they should have gotten the ball snapped before the 2 minute warning instead of giving Indy a chance to watch replays of a possible fumble. But they are doing a lot less of that kind of coaching mistake than they have in the past.
I still am not predicting them to land a wildcard spot this year, I just don't think with a 5-4 record they'll be able to close out the season in a way that will get them one. But I think the defensive and coaching improvement put them significantly ahead of where they were last year, even with the running game not clicking.
But more of what I'm talking about is I think the team believes they will win games now. Several times this year they've been down two scores or more and it hasn't seemed to get to them at all. And the coaching has been better. Still not perfect... they should have gotten the ball snapped before the 2 minute warning instead of giving Indy a chance to watch replays of a possible fumble. But they are doing a lot less of that kind of coaching mistake than they have in the past.
I still am not predicting them to land a wildcard spot this year, I just don't think with a 5-4 record they'll be able to close out the season in a way that will get them one. But I think the defensive and coaching improvement put them significantly ahead of where they were last year, even with the running game not clicking.
