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Houston Texans forever - Titans annual loss in Oilers unis to be replaced by loss in other unis (2 Viewers)

efactor said:
Dizzy said:
Andy Dufresne said:
Crazy what happens when you go from a last place schedule to a top 10-ish toughest.

Edit: Although, looking at it, it doesn't look that tough really.
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CJ is hearing footsteps, seeing ghosts, and any other catch-phrase you can think of for a QB that is crashing and burning.

Once he was "OK" (physically) after that big hit and came back in the game... you knew it was over for Houston.

I guess we'll find out next season if he's able to shake it off and regain composure in the pocket. If not... it's David Carr.
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He's 'Turrible"

I'll be the unfeeling bastaard, and say that the "softly weeping" on his teammates shoulder when Tank got hurt was not a good look for a QB, who is supposed to be a leader. I get it being emotional, but that was over the top. Team needed a fiery leader who can rally the team after a big injury like that.
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Especially when after to honor their fallen teammate instead of laying it all on the field they just gave up. In that moment you either get mad and say not going to take it not going to lose or I'm here for a paycheck it's over we lost I'm giving up mentality.
 
efactor said:
Dizzy said:
Andy Dufresne said:
Crazy what happens when you go from a last place schedule to a top 10-ish toughest.

Edit: Although, looking at it, it doesn't look that tough really.
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CJ is hearing footsteps, seeing ghosts, and any other catch-phrase you can think of for a QB that is crashing and burning.

Once he was "OK" (physically) after that big hit and came back in the game... you knew it was over for Houston.

I guess we'll find out next season if he's able to shake it off and regain composure in the pocket. If not... it's David Carr.
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He's 'Turrible"

I'll be the unfeeling bastaard, and say that the "softly weeping" on his teammates shoulder when Tank got hurt was not a good look for a QB, who is supposed to be a leader. I get it being emotional, but that was over the top. Team needed a fiery leader who can rally the team after a big injury like that.
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Yeah that was quite embarrassing to watch. A grown man crying like that.

If the NFL gives out an award for best drama in a game, then he would win it.
 
Texans are locked into the 4th seed and will host a wildcard game. Possible opponents are the Steelers, Chargers or Ravens.

Play the Ravens with
Ravens loss + Steelers win.

Play the Steelers with:
Steelers win + Ravens win
Steelers loss + Chargers loss

Play the Chargers with:
Steelers loss + Chargers win
 
Four Houston Texans were selected to the 2025 Pro Bowl Games on Thursday morning, while a few notables were snubbed.

Wide receiver Nico Collins, running back Joe Mixon, left tackle Laremy Tunsil and cornerback Derek Stingley Jr. will be Houston’s representatives at the competition. Defensive ends Danielle Hunter and Will Anderson Jr. will not be, at least initially.

Tunsil and Stingley were designated starters for the AFC after finishing in the top two in combined voting by fans, players and coaches at their positions.


Hunter is the first alternate at defensive end, while Anderson is the second. Punter Tommy Townsend (first), quarterback C.J. Stroud (second), kicker Ka’imi Fairbairn (fourth) and safety Jimmie Ward (fourth) are also alternates at their positions.
 
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What is it with Texans pass rushers being overlooked? In 2023, it was Jonathan Greenard, who apparently had to move to Minnesota to get his deserved flowers. Now it's Hunter, who made a Pro Bowl last season with the Vikings but was boxed out in Houston. It's mind-bending. Hunter leads the NFL with 90 QB pressures, five more than No. 2, Trey Hendrickson. Hunter's 19.3% QB pressure rate is tied for No. 1 with Micah Parsons (minimum of 300 pass-rush snaps). Hunter's omission might have been less head-scratching if he had been putting up pressure and not generating any sacks -- some voters surely still cling to that metric. But Hunter has 12 sacks, two behind the NFL co-leaders (Myles Garrett, Hendrickson). Given that he's been one of the league's best pressure producers on a defense that has scrambled the likes of Josh Allen and other top QBs and is on a playoff team, Hunter profiles as a shoo-in. Apparently, the nation collectively forgot about a Texans edge rusher again.
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GregR said:
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What is it with Texans pass rushers being overlooked? In 2023, it was Jonathan Greenard, who apparently had to move to Minnesota to get his deserved flowers. Now it's Hunter, who made a Pro Bowl last season with the Vikings but was boxed out in Houston. It's mind-bending. Hunter leads the NFL with 90 QB pressures, five more than No. 2, Trey Hendrickson. Hunter's 19.3% QB pressure rate is tied for No. 1 with Micah Parsons (minimum of 300 pass-rush snaps). Hunter's omission might have been less head-scratching if he had been putting up pressure and not generating any sacks -- some voters surely still cling to that metric. But Hunter has 12 sacks, two behind the NFL co-leaders (Myles Garrett, Hendrickson). Given that he's been one of the league's best pressure producers on a defense that has scrambled the likes of Josh Allen and other top QBs and is on a playoff team, Hunter profiles as a shoo-in. Apparently, the nation collectively forgot about a Texans edge rusher again.
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Couldn't believe he got snubbed especially over the often injured Crosby. Guess the popularity contest always prevails :poop:
 
Beat reporter Johnathan Alexander said on the radio that someone in Carolina had told him Diontae Johnson's issue there wasn't that he was a bad guy in the locker room, but that he couldn't get out of his own way on the football field. Doing stuff that would sabotage his own efforts. No further details so I'm left guessing what exactly that means.

As for Baltimore, he said Johnson was upset at how they were (not) using him was what led to the issues there.
 
We all pulling for the Raiders here? That Chargers offense scares me and Pitt has been playing poorly as of late.
 
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We all pulling for the Raiders here? That Chargers offense scares me and Pitt has been playing poorly as of late.
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Yeah Texans obviously want Steelers. They haven’t been good lately and Tomlin has had issues in the playoffs. It’s our best chance if we want to make a run.

The best thing about drawing the Chargers with all of our injuries is it likely means we lose and get a better draft pick. If we aren’t going to make a run, look good while losing and get a better pick IMO.
 
Jayded said:
Major said:
We all pulling for the Raiders here? That Chargers offense scares me and Pitt has been playing poorly as of late.
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Yeah Texans obviously want Steelers. They haven’t been good lately and Tomlin has had issues in the playoffs. It’s our best chance if we want to make a run.

The best thing about drawing the Chargers with all of our injuries is it likely means we lose and get a better draft pick. If we aren’t going to make a run, look good while losing and get a better pick IMO.
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Curious what the spread is going to be. The Chargers are the better team imo. Could see them being a 1-2 point favorite away.
 
Texans fan I'd love for them to get the win and they certainly can but given their season and history you'd be a fool betting on them and expecting them to win or cover. Some things to consider prior to betting.
Texans have 1 win vs .500 or over team and the Bills had some key players out and were routed by Ravens week prior. Texans were favored and beat them by 3 points as time expired at home.
Texans have 0 wins vs .500 or over team on the road.
Only CAR and ATL have given up more receiving Tds.
Texans top 3 given up most 40+ receptions. Only Jags and Cowboys are worse.
Can't find final stats but late in season heard they were either #1 or #2 in giving up most 40+ yard Tds. I went through every game and they have given up 8 Tds that were 40+ yards. 11 Tds that were 30+ yards. This wasn't even against DET or MIN it was teams like TEN and IND who did it to them twice which shows they can't seem to scheme for the long bomb TD. Indy threw a 60 and 54 yard TD in their first game and 69 yard in second game. TEN threw a 38 and 70 yard TD first game and 49 second game. That's very troubling and shows a consistent pattern on both sides of the ball where glaring mistakes were not corrected.
Texans getting into playoffs, like many times before, benefits from being in the worst AFC division. They've always been the excellent at beating up their division foes but not when it comes to any statement game vs a legit playoff team. Even as a Texans fan I'd love NFL to do away with auto division winner gets into playoffs. I want the best teams to get in and not a better team playing on the road vs a lesser team but these are the rules.
Well what about those close defeats vs GB and DET this year like some announers like to bring up during Texans games? When this is a pattern coming up short year in year out vs playoff teams you can't assume this was a fluke and they could have won. The same people won't say anything if you say well then what about their close wins shouldn't we say they could have lost? Lets break that down:
Wins by one score (7 pts) or less: 6
Wins by 3 pts or less: 4
After many losses the coaching staff seemed to focus on the positives and would usually blame the defense such as we shouldn't have given up x amount of points. Great teams focus on what they did wrong regardless if they won and I get that Ryans is a positive type guy but not playing well and your coaches gives you excuses as to why never turns out well.
What about key injuries that's probably why they lost. I don't agree. Look at Tank Dell. Great player last year until he got hurt. What happened to his this year? Why didn't he have more games like he did vs KC before injured? Can't blame Diggs since Tank had ghost like games after Diggs was injured.
This is on their coaching. In many cases I can tell what play they are going to run so I can't believe expert NFL coaches don't know. They run a screen play constantly and I'm willing to bet no one does it worse or gets negative yards than Texans yet they continue to run it. There are no easy type plays and many appear to be if it doesn't work Stroud's job is to them improvise. You can't last long doing that and really shocked Stroud was able to get through entire season. He's not innocent and should get some of the blame but they do little to nothing to scheme easy type plays or more plays where he doesn't get killed. I expect Harbaugh to continue to exploit the Texans weakness.
I will post this in the Texans thread in case non bettors or specific game thread and if I have more to add I will.
All that said until Texans can win 2 playoff games you really shouldn't ever bet on them unless they are playing an Andy Dalton Benglas type team that never wins postseason or backup third/fourth string QB like Flacco or Connon Cook.

Chargers should win this game by at least a TD.
 
GregR said:
NFL.com:

What is it with Texans pass rushers being overlooked? In 2023, it was Jonathan Greenard, who apparently had to move to Minnesota to get his deserved flowers. Now it's Hunter, who made a Pro Bowl last season with the Vikings but was boxed out in Houston. It's mind-bending. Hunter leads the NFL with 90 QB pressures, five more than No. 2, Trey Hendrickson. Hunter's 19.3% QB pressure rate is tied for No. 1 with Micah Parsons (minimum of 300 pass-rush snaps). Hunter's omission might have been less head-scratching if he had been putting up pressure and not generating any sacks -- some voters surely still cling to that metric. But Hunter has 12 sacks, two behind the NFL co-leaders (Myles Garrett, Hendrickson). Given that he's been one of the league's best pressure producers on a defense that has scrambled the likes of Josh Allen and other top QBs and is on a playoff team, Hunter profiles as a shoo-in. Apparently, the nation collectively forgot about a Texans edge rusher again.
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Greenard and Cashman balled out in MIN and for some reason Texans gave them Akers which we could have used. Good for Greenard who also ended up with 12 sacks. Vikings defense got a lot better by the help of Texans IMO.
 
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Beat reporter Johnathan Alexander said on the radio that someone in Carolina had told him Diontae Johnson's issue there wasn't that he was a bad guy in the locker room, but that he couldn't get out of his own way on the football field. Doing stuff that would sabotage his own efforts. No further details so I'm left guessing what exactly that means.

As for Baltimore, he said Johnson was upset at how they were (not) using him was what led to the issues there.
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Wonder what the issue was in PIT? This is a team who had Antonio Brown and usually can handle any type of receiver. I wonder if while he's talented and gifted he's one of those players that simply doesn't like playing football.
 
Thoughts on Dionte Johnson? think he looked viable out there for really no time in the offense and at least gives us some hope. I've kind of given up on Hutch and Metch :kicksrock:
 
Bullock was Barnwell's 3rd place choice for defensive rookie of the year:

Coverage stats can be a little misleading for safeties, given that they aren't always latching onto single receivers and aren't necessarily at the center of a play when they make a mistake that leads to a big gain. With that being said, Bullock has the best passer rating allowed for any defensive back in the league this season (39.5). He has contributed to that figure by intercepting five passes, the most of any rookie.

Playing almost exclusively as a deep safety, Bullock has been part of the league's best downfield pass defense. On throws 10 or more yards downfield, the Texans have produced a league-best 57.6 QBR, with opposing quarterbacks completing 36.2% of their passes and throwing as many interceptions (12) as touchdowns (12). They were also the league's best defense in single-high looks, posting a 39.2 QBR allowed, with Bullock often playing that center-field role.
 
For the first time since 2019, the Houston Texans have an All-Pro.

And his name is Derek Stingley Jr.

The third-year cornerback was named first team All-Pro by the Associated Press on Friday. He is the Texans' first recipient for this accolade since DeAndre Hopkins was named to the 2019 team.
 
GregR said:
For the first time since 2019, the Houston Texans have an All-Pro.

And his name is Derek Stingley Jr.

The third-year cornerback was named first team All-Pro by the Associated Press on Friday. He is the Texans' first recipient for this accolade since DeAndre Hopkins was named to the 2019 team.
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Great news for Stingley. And a feather in the cap for Caserio I have to begrudgingly admit. Just goes to show patience is required when judging draft picks as Sauce was injured but also not nearly as good this year and Stingley stayed healthy and got the All-Pro.

Now if they can just fix the offensive line this offseason and get Stroud and the offense out of its sophomore slump.

My family will be at the game today but I am back watching from CO, go Texans!
 
Jayded said:
I’ll say it. I want KC. No, we shouldn’t win, but we have to get over that hurdle if we ever do want to win anything meaningful.

We might as well take a shot at the king.
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I want another home game so I can go, so cheering for Steelers and Broncos.

But barring that I agree, I want to go beat KC.
 
Y'all are at the Chiefs next right?

I think the AFC South games are gonna come in handy with this matchup.
The great Texans edges messed around and were too creative w stunts and y'all lost to the Titans bad tackles. The Chiefs tackles aren't great. What was the difference between games? Because the Texans can definitely get after Mahomes.

Chris Jones or Big Jeff? Yeah yeah y'all have seen a defense curiously dependant on a top DTs success.

A WR that likes to explode deep. You're used to Ridley and Pierce.

Colts great G is a prob but did Taylor run for 200 against the Texans? Nope. Trey Smith won't concern you.

When healthy, the Jags throw 100 times to Engram while the WRs are meh...until the rookie this year.

I can go on and on...the bad AFC South teams have certainly given y'all some theories to re-use.

I've got a lot of confidence in the underdog Texans next week.

I'll stay out of here. Y'all have your day and enjoy it
 
Bri said:
Y'all are at the Chiefs next right?

I think the AFC South games are gonna come in handy with this matchup.
The great Texans edges messed around and were too creative w stunts and y'all lost to the Titans bad tackles. The Chiefs tackles aren't great. What was the difference between games? Because the Texans can definitely get after Mahomes.

Chris Jones or Big Jeff? Yeah yeah y'all have seen a defense curiously dependant on a top DTs success.

A WR that likes to explode deep. You're used to Ridley and Pierce.

Colts great G is a prob but did Taylor run for 200 against the Texans? Nope. Trey Smith won't concern you.

When healthy, the Jags throw 100 times to Engram while the WRs are meh...until the rookie this year.

I can go on and on...the bad AFC South teams have certainly given y'all some theories to re-use.

I've got a lot of confidence in the underdog Texans next week.

I'll stay out of here. Y'all have your day and enjoy it
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Thanks Bri, appreciate you man. Despite the rivalry with the teams, you're always a quality person to talk to.

If the seeds hold serve and Bills win, we'd go to KC, yes. Should the Broncos upset them though, they would go to KC and we'd go to Baltimore.

I do think we have a shot against KC. Especially now the defense is the most complete it's been all season. There are guys who are lost for the year, but the injured have healed mostly. Was our first game with our full LB corp all season.

Good points, thanks for sharing!
 
Just heard that the Texans victory was the first time in NFL history that a game ended with a 32-12 final score.
 
GregR said:
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GregR said:
**** you, Rex Ryan.
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Love the headline. He’s been dogging you guys hard.
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I actually just changed it, but yeah he deserved it. Big blow hard. They ragged on him pretty hard this morning on NFL Countdown, and he took it pretty well. Though also said (laugningly) at the end he wasn't picking Houston next week. Fair enough on that part.
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Here's the segment in case anyone was interested.

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Mahomes and his wife just had a new baby. Not saying I hope it cries all night, every night for a week. But I hope it cries all night, every night for a week.
 
The Houston Texans on Tuesday waived wide receiver Diontae Johnson as they prepare for their divisional-round playoff game on Saturday against the Kansas City Chiefs.

Following the Texans' wild-card playoff victory over the Los Angeles Chargers on Saturday, Johnson was visibly upset in the locker room. He was fully dressed sitting at his locker staring in frustration because of a lack of playing time and targets. Running back Joe Mixon and linebacker Azeez Al-Shaair tried to comfort and encourage him.

Johnson played only 15 out of the Texans' 70 offensive snaps and received only one target. He finished the game with one catch for 12 yards.
 
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The Houston Texans on Tuesday waived wide receiver Diontae Johnson as they prepare for their divisional-round playoff game on Saturday against the Kansas City Chiefs.

Following the Texans' wild-card playoff victory over the Los Angeles Chargers on Saturday, Johnson was visibly upset in the locker room. He was fully dressed sitting at his locker staring in frustration because of a lack of playing time and targets. Running back Joe Mixon and linebacker Azeez Al-Shaair tried to comfort and encourage him.

Johnson played only 15 out of the Texans' 70 offensive snaps and received only one target. He finished the game with one catch for 12 yards.
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Yikes. He's must be extremely difficult/toxic if he got cut given our lack of WR depth.
 
Saw the DVOA stats from the first round.

Against the Chargers, Houston had the 3rd best DVOA of the entire season as a team (offense, defense and special teams).

And the defense had the second best DVOA game of the entire year, with the only one ranking ahead of them was Denver week 18 playing for a playoff spot, against the Chiefs resting all their starters.
 
GregR said:
The Houston Texans on Tuesday waived wide receiver Diontae Johnson as they prepare for their divisional-round playoff game on Saturday against the Kansas City Chiefs.

Following the Texans' wild-card playoff victory over the Los Angeles Chargers on Saturday, Johnson was visibly upset in the locker room. He was fully dressed sitting at his locker staring in frustration because of a lack of playing time and targets. Running back Joe Mixon and linebacker Azeez Al-Shaair tried to comfort and encourage him.

Johnson played only 15 out of the Texans' 70 offensive snaps and received only one target. He finished the game with one catch for 12 yards.
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The Texans now have two open spots on their roster. They’ll likely bring up tight end Teagan Quitoriano, who practiced last week and is eligible to come of the injured reserve, for one of the spots. The other could go to wide receiver Jared Wayne, who has been called up from the practice squad twice this season.
 
Ravens claimed Diontae Johnson off waivers.

This was about compensatory picks, not using him in a game. He won't be awarded to their roster until after the Super Bowl. But he'd then become an unrestricted free agent, and if he signs anywhere else, would count as a free agent lost.
 
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Ravens claimed Diontae Johnson off waivers.

This was about compensatory picks, not using him in a game. He won't be awarded to their roster until after the Super Bowl. But he'd then become an unrestricted free agent, and if he signs anywhere else, would count as a free agent lost.
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I think this is De Costa trying to get something out of nothing and I don't blame him. Maybe a struggling franchise will test out Johnson next year, but he's got to get himself right first. If he couldn't fit into player-friendly cultures like Houston or Baltimore, he's gotta look into the mirror.
 
Well, Joe Mixon is Questionable for Saturdays game. Would be a huge blow to the offense if he doesn’t suit up. Theres no way he doesn’t play right?
 
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Well, Joe Mixon is Questionable for Saturdays game. Would be a huge blow to the offense if he doesn’t suit up. Theres no way he doesn’t play right?
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It would have to be pretty bad for him not to play, yeah. He didn't practice Thursday though, final practice.
 
Mixon, Woods, Al-Shaiir on injury repoirt. Woods injury would leave us super thin at WR, and also mean we'd need to bring in a punt returner (Alex Erickson)


Mixon is one of three questionable active players for Houston along with linebacker Azeez Al-Shaair (knee) and wide receiver/punt returner Robert Woods (hip). No players were ruled out.

Al-Shaair did not practice on Tuesday but was a limited participant Wednesday and Thursday. Al-Shaair, Houston’s third-leading tackler (45 solo), went down early in the first quarter against the Chargers but he returned one play later and stayed in through the fourth quarter.

Woods has not practiced all week. The receiver was present Wednesday but did not participate. He was absent from the portion of Thursday’s practice open to the media. He did not leave the Chargers game at any point and has not had a hip injury prior this season.

The absence of the 12-year veteran could be more key than weeks past, as he’s one of four currently active Texans receivers to catch a pass this season. Houston released Diontae Johnson earlier this week and signed Jared Wayne from the team’s practice squad. Wayne hasn’t seen a target on 19 routes this year. The lack of Woods would leave Houston with just John Metchie III and Xavier Hutchinson as experienced receiving options behind star Nico Collins.

The chance of losing Woods is even more key to the Texans’ special teams. Without Woods, Houston would have no active player available that’s caught a punt for them this season. The four others are either injured (Tank Dell) or off the team (Steven Sims, Desmond King, Johnson).

The Texans signed receiver Alex Erickson to their practice squad with the promotion of Wayne. The veteran has 166 punt returns over nine NFL seasons, including four with the New England Patriots this year. If Woods cannot go, Erickson could be elevated to fill his spot.

Thursday’s report also brings positive news as guard Shaq Mason carries no designation into the weekend and will make his return.

However, Mason’s return isn’t guaranteed to come with his starting role. Juice Scruggs filled the right guard spot in Mason’s place over the least two games and Houston’s maligned offensive line did well with him there. Offensive coordinator Bobby Slowik didn’t have a decision on who would start against Kansas City, calling it “a continuous work in progress.”
 
Off-season wants:

* New OC
* New OL coach
* New OL Coach to honest eval existing OL members and purge the liabilities ; for an identity
* 1st round weapon (Egbuka, Warren)
* 2-3 round OL post eval of players needed
* 1-2 free agent weapons that don’t break the bank ; maybe older guys to fill gaps between Nico and new weapon
 
Jayded said:
Off-season wants:

* New OC
* New OL coach
* New OL Coach to honest eval existing OL members and purge the liabilities ; for an identity
* 1st round weapon (Egbuka, Warren)
* 2-3 round OL post eval of players needed
* 1-2 free agent weapons that don’t break the bank ; maybe older guys to fill gaps between Nico and new weapon
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Cosign. I'd also love a stud TE who can actually block someone unlike Schultz.
 
Clint Stoerner on the radio was eviscerating Slowik for calling slide protections that left Schultz blocking defensive ends.
 
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