Houston Texans In-season Thread (1 Viewer)

[coolnerd]

Historic and fantasy related threads

1st game victory over Dallas cowboys

http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/Full-game-Texans-beat-Cowboys-on-opening-night/ce700491-b4c6-4676-ab2d-5b002b4193ec

2012 off-season thread

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=634500

Arian Foster- Week 1 availability

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=654550

 

[coolnerd]

Active

# Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Age Exp. College

5 Jones, Donnie P 6-2 221 32 9 LSU

8 Schaub, Matt QB 6-5 239 31 9 Virginia

11 Posey, DeVier WR 6-1 206 22 R

12 Beck, John QB 6-2 217 31 6 Brigham Young

13 Yates, T.J. QB 6-4 219 25 2 North Carolina

16 Holliday, Trindon WR 5-5 169 26 2 Louisiana State

17 Graham, Shayne K 6-0 210 34 11 Virginia Tech

18 Jean, Lestar WR 6-3 212 24 2 Florida Atlantic

20 Carmichael, Roc CB 5-10 195 24 2 Virginia Tech

21 McCain, Brice CB 5-9 184 25 4 Utah

22 Ball, Alan DB 6-2 191 27 5 Illinois

23 Foster, Arian RB 6-1 229 26 4 Tennessee

24 Joseph, Johnathan CB 5-11 189 28 7 South Carolina

25 Jackson, Kareem DB 5-10 192 24 3 Alabama

26 Harris, Brandon CB 5-10 194 22 2 Miami (Fla.)

27 Demps, Quintin SS 5-11 208 27 4 Texas-El Paso

28 Forsett, Justin RB 5-8 194 26 5 California

29 Quin, Glover SS 6-0 207 26 4 New Mexico

31 Keo, Shiloh S 6-0 202 24 2 Idaho

38 Manning, Danieal S 5-11 210 30 7 Abilene Christian

40 Clutts, Tyler FB 6-2 260 27 2 Fresno State

44 Tate, Ben RB 5-11 215 24 3 Auburn

46 Weeks, Jon LS 5-10 248 26 3 Baylor

50 Braman, Bryan LB 6-5 251 25 2

52 Dobbins, Tim LB 6-1 236 29 7 Iowa State

53 James, Bradie ILB 6-2 240 31 10 LSU

54 Alexander, Mister LB 6-3 252 24 2

55 Myers, Chris C 6-4 290 31 8 Miami (Fla.)

56 Cushing, Brian ILB 6-3 255 25 4 Southern California

57 Nading, Jesse OLB 6-5 257 27 4 Colorado State

58 Reed, Brooks OLB 6-2 250 25 2 Arizona

59 Mercilus, Whitney LB 6-4 257 22 R

60 Jones, Ben C 6-3 303 23 R

62 Caldwell, Antoine G 6-3 311 26 4 Alabama

66 Gardner, Andrew G 6-6 308 26 2 Georgia Tech

68 Harris, Ryan OT 6-5 300 27 5 Notre Dame

74 Smith, Wade G 6-4 307 31 10 Memphis

75 Newton, Derek T 6-5 318 24 2 Arkansas State

76 Brown, Duane T 6-4 320 27 5 Virginia Tech

79 Brooks, Brandon G 6-5 340 23 R

80 Johnson, Andre WR 6-3 230 31 10 Miami (Fla.)

81 Daniels, Owen TE 6-3 249 29 7 Wisconsin

82 Martin, Keshawn WR 5-11 190 22 R

83 Walter, Kevin WR 6-3 217 31 10 Eastern Michigan

86 Casey, James FB 6-3 240 28 4 Rice

88 Graham, Garrett TE 6-3 244 26 3 Wisconsin

92 Mitchell, Earl NT 6-3 300 25 3 Arizona

93 Crick, Jared DE 6-4 287 23 R

94 Smith, Antonio DE 6-4 284 30 8 Oklahoma State

95 Cody, Shaun DT 6-4 307 29 8 Southern California

96 Jamison, Tim DE 6-3 285 26 4 Michigan

98 Barwin, Connor OLB 6-4 268 25 4 Cincinnati

99 Watt, J.J. DE 6-5 295 23 2 Wisconsin

Reserve/Injured

# Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Age Exp. College

4 Bullock, Randy K 5-9 208 22 R Texas A&M

78 Butler, Rashad T 6-4 317 29 7 Miami (Fla.)

45 Fox, Keyaron ILB 6-3 228 30 9 Georgia Tech

Practice Squad

# Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Age Exp. College

43 Grimes, Jonathan RB 5-10 209 22 R William & Mary

72 Hunter, David NT 6-2 303 23 R Houston

64 Johnson, Delano OLB 6-4 280 24 R Bowie State

7 Keenum, Case QB 6-1 209 24 R Houston

15 Maehl, Jeff WR 6-0 185 23 1 Oregon

35 Pleasant, Eddie SS 5-10 210 23 R Oregon

48 Supernaw, Phillip TE 6-5 250 22 R Ouachita Baptist

67 White, Cody G 6-3 301 24 R Illinois State

Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform

# Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Age Exp. College

51 Sharpton, Darryl ILB 5-11 234 24 3 Miami (Fla.)

 

[Getinthemix]

Can't wait to see the D unleashed in Son of Bum year 2.

 

[coolnerd]

Week 1 vs dolphins (30-10) win

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=655227

post-game presser

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-Texans-vs-Dolphins/0c14e994-2501-4150-8e06-2c9b4098b9ba

Monday press conference

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-Kubiak-Monday-press-conference/9ba8ba9a-ee1f-4bb7-a2f9-a6ac327b9e98

Week 2 @Jacksonsville (27-7) win

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=657079

post game presser

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Postgame-Quotes-Texans-at-Jaguars/d8de99f1-9e92-4368-a084-

Monday Press Conference

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-Monday-practice/69bfa77e-b0d0-490c-b045-941de6fb8cea

Week 3 @ Bronces 31-25 win

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=658854&st=100&p=14814771&hl=broncos&fromsearch=1entry14814771

Post game presser

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-Texans-at-Broncos-postgame/a0a7fea9-f87b-4e23-bf69-d67b3dfa126e

Monday presser

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-Monday-practice/a95870b0-2181-4d4d-8992-b895798bdbcc

Week 4 Titans 38-14 win

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=660309

 

[GregR]

Kareem Jackson needs to finish the "next step: he started last year, now that Jason Allen isn't there to platoon with him. Worried about depth. Alan Ball has inspired no confidence this year. And I have no clue why Keo was kept over Troy Nolan. And concerned about right tackle depth, as well as just outright starter play.



Was that suitably downcast to compensate for the positive talk?

 

[Getinthemix]

Harris hopefully will not be relied on for a heavy workload at RT and can stay healthy. The OLine depth is concerning, but

 

[FF Ninja]

Kareem Jackson needs to finish the "next step: he started last year, now that Jason Allen isn't there to platoon with him. Worried about depth. Alan Ball has inspired no confidence this year. And I have no clue why Keo was kept over Troy Nolan. And concerned about right tackle depth, as well as just outright starter play.



Was that suitably downcast to compensate for the positive talk?

We have finally made it to a happy place when depth is the main concern. I'm not worried about the o-line play, but the bolded is absolutely a head scratcher.

 

[Skilo]

Kareem Jackson needs to finish the "next step: he started last year, now that Jason Allen isn't there to platoon with him. Worried about depth. Alan Ball has inspired no confidence this year. And I have no clue why Keo was kept over Troy Nolan. And concerned about right tackle depth, as well as just outright starter play. Was that suitably downcast to compensate for the positive talk?

I haven't been keeping up as much in reading/news but I'm assuming by special teams play and younger? I can't say I watched every moment of every preason play but from what I saw he looked good on special teams numerous times. I did like Nolan more but we have too much decent type quality depth at that position now after manning.

 

[Boulder Toads]

Kareem Jackson needs to finish the "next step: he started last year, now that Jason Allen isn't there to platoon with him. Worried about depth. Alan Ball has inspired no confidence this year. And I have no clue why Keo was kept over Troy Nolan. And concerned about right tackle depth, as well as just outright starter play. Was that suitably downcast to compensate for the positive talk?

I haven't been keeping up as much in reading/news but I'm assuming by special teams play and younger? I can't say I watched every moment of every preason play but from what I saw he looked good on special teams numerous times. I did like Nolan more but we have too much decent type quality depth at that position now after manning.

I could be wrong, but thought I heard the Keo vs. Nolan decision came down to cap space considerations. ST play likely a factor as well.

 

[TheFly06]

Texans quarterback Matt Schaub has signed a four-year contract extension on a deal that now expires in 2016.

Schaub, already the franchise’s record holder in virtually every passing category, signed an extension for $24.75 million guaranteed, $62 million overall.

“I’m very excited to continue to make Houston our home,” Schaub said. “I’m happy to get it so both sides are happy about it.”

Source: Houston Chronicle

 

[FF Ninja]

Can we agree that someone just needs to take over the challenge duty from Kubiak? How are you going to challenge that pass when he clearly loses the ball afterwards anyway? Putz. He's always been horrible on challenges - letting clearly incorrect calls stand and throwing the flag on obviously good calls.

I know it is kind of nit picking since we won, but this has been a long standing problem. His clock management has been poor, too. It's going to cost us a game at some point (and absolutely has cost us games in the past). And by "it" I mean clock management OR wasted challenges/missed challenge opportunities.

 

[coolnerd]

Can we agree that someone just needs to take over the challenge duty from Kubiak? How are you going to challenge that pass when he clearly loses the ball afterwards anyway? Putz. He's always been horrible on challenges - letting clearly incorrect calls stand and throwing the flag on obviously good calls.I know it is kind of nit picking since we won, but this has been a long standing problem. His clock management has been poor, too. It's going to cost us a game at some point (and absolutely has cost us games in the past). And by "it" I mean clock management OR wasted challenges/missed challenge opportunities.

In a lot of ways this was a "perfect" game in that we won by a large margain beating a team we were supposed to beat. still there is plenty negative for the coaches to keep the attention of the team. Special teams were not special, the offense was not truly clicking, the defense had lapses in tackling, etc.

 

[therush]

Surprised Keshawn Martin didnt get a single touch today.

Jean the new #3?

 

[coolnerd]

Surprised Keshawn Martin didnt get a single touch today.Jean the new #3?

Well, Martin had a clean drop on the first series of the game, still he was in and out in various packages.Neither was significantly featured although Jean nearly made a circus catch for a TD. The passing offense is centered around Johnson, Daniels, the RB in the passing game. All the rest are fighting for the crumbs.

 

[GregR]

Can we agree that someone just needs to take over the challenge duty from Kubiak? How are you going to challenge that pass when he clearly loses the ball afterwards anyway? Putz. He's always been horrible on challenges - letting clearly incorrect calls stand and throwing the flag on obviously good calls.I know it is kind of nit picking since we won, but this has been a long standing problem. His clock management has been poor, too. It's going to cost us a game at some point (and absolutely has cost us games in the past). And by "it" I mean clock management OR wasted challenges/missed challenge opportunities.

There wasn't a replay shown in the stadium that showed he didn't catch the ball. Even the replays shown to the ref during the challenge were all focused on whether his feet were in, continually winding and rewinding the feet touching down. I didn't know he didn't catch it until I checked the game thread here the next time. If you noticed the ref did not say the call was confirmed, he said it stands.So it would be on whatever coach is up in the booth and able to see the TV broadcast. Kubiak would have had to go on was told over the headset.

 

[GregR]

Just heard the perfect nickname: JJ Swatt

 

[TheFly06]

Love this little signing! Got it from the Chron today:

Jamison gets an extension

The Texans also gave a two-year extension to defensive end Tim Jamison worth $1.8 million in new money, including a $25,000 bump this season – on top of the $615,000 he was supposed to make – and a $330,000 signing bonus.

Against the Dolphins, Jamison had a sack, a quarterback hurry, a tackle for a loss and a pass defensed.

 

[dhockster]

Love this little signing! Got it from the Chron today:Jamison gets an extensionThe Texans also gave a two-year extension to defensive end Tim Jamison worth $1.8 million in new money, including a $25,000 bump this season on top of the $615,000 he was supposed to make and a $330,000 signing bonus.Against the Dolphins, Jamison had a sack, a quarterback hurry, a tackle for a loss and a pass defensed.

Some of the speculation on the radio this morning is that this is possibly preparing for the Texans cutting Antonio Smith after this season because he has such a large salary number. While I am not for cutting good players, I am for making the most of your cap dollars. And if the choice is between keeping Connor Barwin or keeping Antonio Smith, I probably go with Barwin because of his age and potential. The Texans save $6 million on their cap if they cut Antonio next year ($9.8 cap hit if he plays, $3.8 cap hit if he is cut)

 

[GregR]

Post game quotes at http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-Texans-vs-Dolphins/0c14e994-2501-4150-8e06-2c9b4098b9ba

Just cut and pasting Kubiak's, more at the link:

HEAD COACH GARY KUBIAK (Transcribed by Tiffani Walker)

(on the game) “I thought we were a little shaky as a team. Opening day I don’t think you really know what you are. You think you do but until you get out there and get going. I thought we played a little shaky on both sides of the ball. Just not real clean. We kept battling and battling but then we were explosive. We got, what, three turnovers in a row. We scored 24 points there in the second quarter if I’m right, is that right? 21? Something like that. We were explosive as a team in that period of the second quarter. That third quarter I did not like. We come out of the locker room, we go three-and-out and we let them right back in the game. We put together a great drive, we’ve go first-and –goal in our stadium, on the one and we don’t get the ball in the end zone. I didn’t like the close factor from that standpoint. I didn’t like the fact that we couldn’t run the ball. We’re playing a speed offensive football team, so trying to control the clock and not being able to run the ball, that’s an issue as a coach that I haven’t got solved yet. But, good win. One and 0 after one week. We’ve got to move forward.”

(on the three defensive turnover ) “ We do a great job of getting our hands on balls, tipping balls. I’ve been in this game a long time and I’ve been places where guys knock balls down at practice and stuff and coaches get mad cause they want to work on the pass route, or this or that. And I’ve learned not to say one darn thing because we knock them down in practice and we bat them during the game and they turn into big plays for us. (Asst. Head Coach/Defensive Line) Bill (Kollar) does a great job of teaching that.”

(on DE JJ Watt and his play) “I don’t think that surprised you or me. He could have played the last two weeks of the preseason, but that wouldn’t have been very smart. He’s just an excellent football player, very well-conditioned and he played a lot of football today. He’s gradually turning into a great player very quickly.”

(on WR Andre Johnson and how much it means to him and the team to get back on the field) “He means a great deal. I usually don’t talk much about what goes on in our meetings, but we had a powerful team meeting last night and it was all due to him. He stood up and talked to his teammates about his career and what he wants to get out of his career and what this team means to him. I didn’t have to say a darn thing after that. He’s in it for all the right reasons. He understands he’s in year 10. Like I told you all before, we need him to be successful, but we’re all rooting for him to stay healthy because if he does he’ll do great things.”

(on TE Owen Daniels’ play) “Owen has had a good camp. I think (TE coach) Brian (Pariani) has found a nice workload for Owen throughout the course of the week and during the games where we are keeping him fresh. I think it helped late in the season last year and he’s off to a darn good start. I felt really good about us throwing the ball today, but we’re trying like heck to keep them off the field some too with all the snaps. I thought we threw it well, just didn’t run it very good.”

(on the trouble on third down and short yardage situations) “We didn’t run the ball good. That’s all I can tell you. First third-and-one we had we got stuff. I know we had another one there somewhere and during the fourth quarter we might have had three third-and-longs. We are actually 40% or something like that kneeling down on the ground. I thought the key to us being explosive offensively eventually ended up us making some third downs. But it would have been a lot better had we run the ball better.”

(on the running trouble being the Dolphins defense or lack of execution on offense) “I don’t know. I won’t sleep good tonight but I’ll see it in the morning.”

(on the explosion of scoring in the game) “I think in the past the game we were in there early teammates start to panic a little bit. We just kept playing and then all of a sudden it takes on play and we get really explosive as a team. And that’s part of this league. We’ve got those players capable of doing that. I always tell the guys, ‘you’re going to get down 10 in this league, so you better be ready to come back and play. You’re going to get up 10 and you’re still going to be in a tough ballgame.’ So I like the way we were able to work through our uneasiness early in the game and be a darn good football team there in the second quarter.”

(on the red-zone play) “I couldn’t go through all the possessions. I know the one that bothered me the most was first-and-goal on the one. I think we had first-and-goal on the eight and we jumped offsides and that turned into first-and-goal from the 15. We kicked a field goal. Those are two of the very poor possessions right there. But in the second quarter when we were playing well and explosive, I think we were three for three. Obviously we got down there a few times and we need to finish more than we did today.”

(on if he’s ever had a player like DE JJ Watt who can change a game) “Its interesting cause you just wait for him to make those. The one I’m thinking of that he batted down he almost caught again. He’s got such confidence in that. The greatest thing you can do as a D-linemen when you can’t get to the quarterback is get your hands up. It’s easy to say, but it’s hard to teach. And I just think that we do such a good job of teaching if and enforcing it at practice and it carries over when we play.”

(on the injuries ) “A couple things, (LB Tim)Dobbins had got a neck issue. We had to send him to the hospital for some further checks. (LB Brian) Cush(ing) is a little sore but came out of the game ok. (CB) Jonathan Joseph got sick on us in the second half, but he’s ok. So that’s where we’re at. Dobbins will be our biggest issue.”

(on starting out shaky and being tight in the first half) “We were facing something a little different, that hurry-up. They got the ball first, right? Am I right? Long day. They went right down the field, I think, and we were able to force a punt and we were pinned back. Offensively, we dropped the first play of the game. But we get explosive, and I think we go right to the 40 or 35. So, we were doing some good stuff, but we had just a couple issues, we dropped a ball or two. Just things that showed we weren’t totally in rhythm. But you have to play through those things and we did today.’

(on RB Arian Foster) “He was fine. I think he carried it 25 times. Arian was ok. He was fine going into the game. That’s part of procedure: if you don’t practice on Friday you become a game time decision. He’s fine. He just had a sore knee.”

(on the right side of the offensive line and their play) “I couldn’t tell you right now. I know we didn’t run the ball well. And when I see that I see all of us, I don’t see right or left.”

(on DE Tim Jamison’s play) “Timmy is really playing well. Life is good with Timmy. He’s a new dad. Good things going on for Tim Jamison. I’m really proud of him. He’s turning into a heck of a player.”

 

[FF Ninja]

Can we agree that someone just needs to take over the challenge duty from Kubiak? How are you going to challenge that pass when he clearly loses the ball afterwards anyway? Putz. He's always been horrible on challenges - letting clearly incorrect calls stand and throwing the flag on obviously good calls.I know it is kind of nit picking since we won, but this has been a long standing problem. His clock management has been poor, too. It's going to cost us a game at some point (and absolutely has cost us games in the past). And by "it" I mean clock management OR wasted challenges/missed challenge opportunities.

There wasn't a replay shown in the stadium that showed he didn't catch the ball. Even the replays shown to the ref during the challenge were all focused on whether his feet were in, continually winding and rewinding the feet touching down. I didn't know he didn't catch it until I checked the game thread here the next time. If you noticed the ref did not say the call was confirmed, he said it stands.So it would be on whatever coach is up in the booth and able to see the TV broadcast. Kubiak would have had to go on was told over the headset.

Well, there were plenty of replays shown on national television. If they'd given me a number, I could've texted them from the bar and told them not to challenge that call. The dumb*** announcers were watching the same thing I was, which showed the ball come out when he hit the ground, and they were ignoring it just like whoever is in charge of challenges for the Texans. Incompetence all around.After the first few replays on TV they started to just focus on the feet, but I don't know how we know exactly what the refs are looking at under the booth. I didn't figure it related to what's on TV.I guess I shouldn't have pointed all the blame to Kubiak. I at least HOPE he's got someone upstairs watching a broadcast and talking to him. But it wouldn't surprise me if Kubiak appointed him. We all know how well Kubiak is at hiring his own guys (Frank Bush).And this may be a separate topic, but someone up there needs to be in communication with Kubiak at all times - not just when we need to challenge. I recall a game against Indy a couple years ago when someone (maybe Slaton?) fumbled the ball just past the pylon (should've been a touchback) but the refs didn't catch it. Instead they ruled him down inbounds at the 1 yard line which kept the clock running. I sure as hell saw it and was screaming at the TV to snap the ball - even if only to spike it - before the 2 minute warning. Instead they couldn't get a play in that they liked and let the clock hit the 2 minute warning. What happens during that time? Indy notices what I saw and challenges the play. So we come out of the 2 minute warning on defense at the 20 instead of on offense at the 1. Straight up incompetence. Cost us that game and it will cost us games in the future if we don't sort it out. I don't want to see that be the difference this year.

 

[GregR]

Can we agree that someone just needs to take over the challenge duty from Kubiak? How are you going to challenge that pass when he clearly loses the ball afterwards anyway? Putz. He's always been horrible on challenges - letting clearly incorrect calls stand and throwing the flag on obviously good calls.

I know it is kind of nit picking since we won, but this has been a long standing problem. His clock management has been poor, too. It's going to cost us a game at some point (and absolutely has cost us games in the past). And by "it" I mean clock management OR wasted challenges/missed challenge opportunities.

There wasn't a replay shown in the stadium that showed he didn't catch the ball. Even the replays shown to the ref during the challenge were all focused on whether his feet were in, continually winding and rewinding the feet touching down. I didn't know he didn't catch it until I checked the game thread here the next time. If you noticed the ref did not say the call was confirmed, he said it stands.So it would be on whatever coach is up in the booth and able to see the TV broadcast. Kubiak would have had to go on was told over the headset.

Well, there were plenty of replays shown on national television. If they'd given me a number, I could've texted them from the bar and told them not to challenge that call. The dumb*** announcers were watching the same thing I was, which showed the ball come out when he hit the ground, and they were ignoring it just like whoever is in charge of challenges for the Texans. Incompetence all around.After the first few replays on TV they started to just focus on the feet, but I don't know how we know exactly what the refs are looking at under the booth. I didn't figure it related to what's on TV.

I guess I shouldn't have pointed all the blame to Kubiak. I at least HOPE he's got someone upstairs watching a broadcast and talking to him. But it wouldn't surprise me if Kubiak appointed him. We all know how well Kubiak is at hiring his own guys (Frank Bush).

And this may be a separate topic, but someone up there needs to be in communication with Kubiak at all times - not just when we need to challenge. I recall a game against Indy a couple years ago when someone (maybe Slaton?) fumbled the ball just past the pylon (should've been a touchback) but the refs didn't catch it. Instead they ruled him down inbounds at the 1 yard line which kept the clock running. I sure as hell saw it and was screaming at the TV to snap the ball - even if only to spike it - before the 2 minute warning. Instead they couldn't get a play in that they liked and let the clock hit the 2 minute warning. What happens during that time? Indy notices what I saw and challenges the play. So we come out of the 2 minute warning on defense at the 20 instead of on offense at the 1. Straight up incompetence. Cost us that game and it will cost us games in the future if we don't sort it out. I don't want to see that be the difference this year.

Correct, people watching at home on TV see whatever the network decides to show them on their own. But starting this year, the fans in the stadium are shown on the jumbotron the same feed that the ref sees under the hood.

 

[GregR]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/10/schaub-gets-17-5-million-to-sign-29-5-million-over-two-years/

Schaub gets $17.5 million to sign, $29.5 million over two years

Posted by Mike Florio on September 10, 2012, 3:43 PM EDT

Houston Texans coach Gary Kubiak talks with quarterback Matt Schaub on the sideline during the first half of their NFL football game against the Miami Dolphins in Houston Reuters

When the Texans announced after the season-opening win against the Dolphins that quarterback Matt Schaub has signed a new four-year contract extension, many (as in we) wondered whether and to what extent the Texans had protected themselves against Schaub’s actual or perceived propensity for injury.

The answer, apparently, is not much.

Per a source with knowledge of the deal, Schaub received $17.5 million to sign. He’ll also receive a base salary of $4.4 million in 2012, a fully guaranteed base salary of $7.25 million in 2013, a base salary of $10 million in 2014, a base salary of $12.5 million in 2015, and a base salary of $14.5 million in 2016.

It works out to $66.15 million over five years. With, as a practical matter, $29.15 million guaranteed.

Factoring in the $7.15 million base salary Schaub already was due to earn, it works out to $59 million in new money on the four new years of the deal, an average of $14.75 million per year.

The clearest protection against injury comes from $1 million in per-game roster bonuses, spread over 2014 through 2016.

So it’s a two-year, $29.15 million deal, with a year-to-year option on the rest.

So if I read that and do the math right... $17.5m bonus over 5 years is $3.5m per year prorated. He cut his base salary this year from $7.15m to $4.4m. So his cap number this year goes from $7.15m (plus any previous proration for bonus) to $7.9m (the $4.4m salary plus the $3.5m proration). Unless the new bonus does not start prorating until 2013. Hmm. Not sure how it works with extensions.

 

[GregR]

Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandtNow. RT @GregR_FBG Does Schaub's prorated $17.5m signing bonus hit the cap in 2012, or not until 2013?

Ok, so I think what I said above is right. So sounds like the cap figure might have gone up slightly, but basically they kept Schaub's cap number the same for this year.I agree something probably has to happen next year to stay under the cap. Figure most people's cap numbers will go up some. Andre Johnson has kept pushing money back so he has some huge cap figures coming up. According to various sites he's in the $5m range this year, but his cap figure jumps to $10m, $10m, $14m and $13m the next 4 years.Antonio Smith would make sense as a cap casualty. He's got a $9.8m cap number this year and next. Cutting or trading him would have a $2.5m cap hit for a $7.3m cap savings. Re-signing Jamison, and the drafting of Crick, could definitely be part of preparing for that. Hopefully they could at least trade him though.By the way, was hoping we'd have seen more from Crick in preseason than we did. I really liked the drafting of him, but haven't seen as much as I thought we might.

 

[GregR]

Dobbins ran with the team today, expected to be back practicing Wednesday.

 

[GregR]

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalkJ.J. Watt tells @PFTonNBCSN that he got the Dolphins' snap count from Hard Knocks.

 

[GregR]

Video of Miami guard Richie Icognito trying to injure Antonio Smith. Icognito looks up and sees the play is over, puts his head down and according to Smith starts twisting on his ankle trying to injure it. Smith finally starts kicking Icognito to defend himself and make Incognito stop:

 

[dhockster]

Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt

Now. RT @GregR_FBG Does Schaub's prorated $17.5m signing bonus hit the cap in 2012, or not until 2013?

Ok, so I think what I said above is right. So sounds like the cap figure might have gone up slightly, but basically they kept Schaub's cap number the same for this year.I agree something probably has to happen next year to stay under the cap. Figure most people's cap numbers will go up some. Andre Johnson has kept pushing money back so he has some huge cap figures coming up. According to various sites he's in the $5m range this year, but his cap figure jumps to $10m, $10m, $14m and $13m the next 4 years.

Antonio Smith would make sense as a cap casualty. He's got a $9.8m cap number this year and next. Cutting or trading him would have a $2.5m cap hit for a $7.3m cap savings. Re-signing Jamison, and the drafting of Crick, could definitely be part of preparing for that. Hopefully they could at least trade him though.

By the way, was hoping we'd have seen more from Crick in preseason than we did. I really liked the drafting of him, but haven't seen as much as I thought we might.

They actually restructured Antonio Smith's deal before the 2011 season so he has an additional $1.3 million of deferred salary that would hit the cap. So the cap savings by cutting him next year is only $6 million (which is his base salary for next year).http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/antonio-smith/

 

[GregR]

Ouch!

Steve Wyche ‏@wyche89SSNNNAAAPP!!!"@gunnerhal: You know it's a rough time for Miami sports when our football team has more batted balls than our baseball team."

 

[saintfool]

is brooks reed expected to go this week?

 

[coolnerd]

is brooks reed expected to go this week?

Yes, Kubiak has not even mentioned Reed's health during after practice short form pressers this week.

 

[GregR]

By any chance, does anyone have a copy of the Texans 19-10 win over the Cowboys in their first game?

 

[coolnerd]

By any chance, does anyone have a copy of the Texans 19-10 win over the Cowboys in their first game?

houstontexans.com published it before the 1st game of the season. I could not find it when i just looked for it.

 

[coolnerd]

By any chance, does anyone have a copy of the Texans 19-10 win over the Cowboys in their first game?

houstontexans.com published it before the 1st game of the season. I could not find it when i just looked for it.

here we gohttp://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/Full-game-Texans-beat-Cowboys-on-opening-night/ce700491-b4c6-4676-ab2d-5b002b4193ec

 

[GregR]

By any chance, does anyone have a copy of the Texans 19-10 win over the Cowboys in their first game?

houstontexans.com published it before the 1st game of the season. I could not find it when i just looked for it.

here we gohttp://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/Full-game-Texans-beat-Cowboys-on-opening-night/ce700491-b4c6-4676-ab2d-5b002b4193ec

Thanks!

 

[GregR]

All the starters are active today.

 

[GregR]

Maurice Jones-Drew managed 5 yards a carry, but the Jaguars couldn’t feed him like they wanted to because they were 0-for-9 on third down and held the ball for just 16:43.

Not a misprint. Jacksonville’s time of possession was 16:43.

“They have really, really nice benches here,” Watt said of the real estate he occupied for most of the afternoon. “They have shade and they have cooling. So it was awesome that our offense could hold the ball for so long because it was relaxing over there.”

 

[GregR]

Very good Sunday for the Texans. Beat the Broncos to go to 3-0. San Diego losing means Texans have a game on the rest of the AFC. They are 2 and a half games up on Denver. 2 games up on Pittsburgh. And one of New England or Baltimore will lose, so we'll be 2 games up on one of them as well.

Would have liked for them to put the Broncos away. Several dropped interceptions and the Tate fumble stopped that from happening. But still, I think Houston was the better team on the field today, and it was about as likely to end up a blow out as it was to end up a 1 score game at the end.

 

[jsharlan]

Can we agree that someone just needs to take over the challenge duty from Kubiak? How are you going to challenge that pass when he clearly loses the ball afterwards anyway? Putz. He's always been horrible on challenges - letting clearly incorrect calls stand and throwing the flag on obviously good calls.I know it is kind of nit picking since we won, but this has been a long standing problem. His clock management has been poor, too. It's going to cost us a game at some point (and absolutely has cost us games in the past). And by "it" I mean clock management OR wasted challenges/missed challenge opportunities.

There wasn't a replay shown in the stadium that showed he didn't catch the ball. Even the replays shown to the ref during the challenge were all focused on whether his feet were in, continually winding and rewinding the feet touching down. I didn't know he didn't catch it until I checked the game thread here the next time. If you noticed the ref did not say the call was confirmed, he said it stands.So it would be on whatever coach is up in the booth and able to see the TV broadcast. Kubiak would have had to go on was told over the headset.

Well, there were plenty of replays shown on national television. If they'd given me a number, I could've texted them from the bar and told them not to challenge that call. The dumb*** announcers were watching the same thing I was, which showed the ball come out when he hit the ground, and they were ignoring it just like whoever is in charge of challenges for the Texans. Incompetence all around.After the first few replays on TV they started to just focus on the feet, but I don't know how we know exactly what the refs are looking at under the booth. I didn't figure it related to what's on TV.I guess I shouldn't have pointed all the blame to Kubiak. I at least HOPE he's got someone upstairs watching a broadcast and talking to him. But it wouldn't surprise me if Kubiak appointed him. We all know how well Kubiak is at hiring his own guys (Frank Bush).And this may be a separate topic, but someone up there needs to be in communication with Kubiak at all times - not just when we need to challenge. I recall a game against Indy a couple years ago when someone (maybe Slaton?) fumbled the ball just past the pylon (should've been a touchback) but the refs didn't catch it. Instead they ruled him down inbounds at the 1 yard line which kept the clock running. I sure as hell saw it and was screaming at the TV to snap the ball - even if only to spike it - before the 2 minute warning. Instead they couldn't get a play in that they liked and let the clock hit the 2 minute warning. What happens during that time? Indy notices what I saw and challenges the play. So we come out of the 2 minute warning on defense at the 20 instead of on offense at the 1. Straight up incompetence. Cost us that game and it will cost us games in the future if we don't sort it out. I don't want to see that be the difference this year.

2010 called, they want their Kubiak hate back.

 

[Major]

Very good Sunday for the Texans. Beat the Broncos to go to 3-0. San Diego losing means Texans have a game on the rest of the AFC. They are 2 and a half games up on Denver. 2 games up on Pittsburgh. And one of New England or Baltimore will lose, so we'll be 2 games up on one of them as well.Would have liked for them to put the Broncos away. Several dropped interceptions and the Tate fumble stopped that from happening. But still, I think Houston was the better team on the field today, and it was about as likely to end up a blow out as it was to end up a 1 score game at the end.

The Defense and RBs will lead this team deep into the playoffs. I'm just worried about Schaub and AJ80 holding up. This team reminds me of those McGrady/Yao Rockets teams. I hope history doesn't repeat b/c this team is full of potential and only has a few more years before all the young studs on Defense want new contracts.

 

[Major]

Can we agree that someone just needs to take over the challenge duty from Kubiak? How are you going to challenge that pass when he clearly loses the ball afterwards anyway? Putz. He's always been horrible on challenges - letting clearly incorrect calls stand and throwing the flag on obviously good calls.I know it is kind of nit picking since we won, but this has been a long standing problem. His clock management has been poor, too. It's going to cost us a game at some point (and absolutely has cost us games in the past). And by "it" I mean clock management OR wasted challenges/missed challenge opportunities.

There wasn't a replay shown in the stadium that showed he didn't catch the ball. Even the replays shown to the ref during the challenge were all focused on whether his feet were in, continually winding and rewinding the feet touching down. I didn't know he didn't catch it until I checked the game thread here the next time. If you noticed the ref did not say the call was confirmed, he said it stands.So it would be on whatever coach is up in the booth and able to see the TV broadcast. Kubiak would have had to go on was told over the headset.

Well, there were plenty of replays shown on national television. If they'd given me a number, I could've texted them from the bar and told them not to challenge that call. The dumb*** announcers were watching the same thing I was, which showed the ball come out when he hit the ground, and they were ignoring it just like whoever is in charge of challenges for the Texans. Incompetence all around.After the first few replays on TV they started to just focus on the feet, but I don't know how we know exactly what the refs are looking at under the booth. I didn't figure it related to what's on TV.I guess I shouldn't have pointed all the blame to Kubiak. I at least HOPE he's got someone upstairs watching a broadcast and talking to him. But it wouldn't surprise me if Kubiak appointed him. We all know how well Kubiak is at hiring his own guys (Frank Bush).And this may be a separate topic, but someone up there needs to be in communication with Kubiak at all times - not just when we need to challenge. I recall a game against Indy a couple years ago when someone (maybe Slaton?) fumbled the ball just past the pylon (should've been a touchback) but the refs didn't catch it. Instead they ruled him down inbounds at the 1 yard line which kept the clock running. I sure as hell saw it and was screaming at the TV to snap the ball - even if only to spike it - before the 2 minute warning. Instead they couldn't get a play in that they liked and let the clock hit the 2 minute warning. What happens during that time? Indy notices what I saw and challenges the play. So we come out of the 2 minute warning on defense at the 20 instead of on offense at the 1. Straight up incompetence. Cost us that game and it will cost us games in the future if we don't sort it out. I don't want to see that be the difference this year.

2010 called, they want their Kubiak hate back.

I agree with Kubiak's poor replay history and clock management. The guy seems clueless when it comes to these matters.

 

[jsharlan]

Can we agree that someone just needs to take over the challenge duty from Kubiak? How are you going to challenge that pass when he clearly loses the ball afterwards anyway? Putz. He's always been horrible on challenges - letting clearly incorrect calls stand and throwing the flag on obviously good calls.I know it is kind of nit picking since we won, but this has been a long standing problem. His clock management has been poor, too. It's going to cost us a game at some point (and absolutely has cost us games in the past). And by "it" I mean clock management OR wasted challenges/missed challenge opportunities.

There wasn't a replay shown in the stadium that showed he didn't catch the ball. Even the replays shown to the ref during the challenge were all focused on whether his feet were in, continually winding and rewinding the feet touching down. I didn't know he didn't catch it until I checked the game thread here the next time. If you noticed the ref did not say the call was confirmed, he said it stands.So it would be on whatever coach is up in the booth and able to see the TV broadcast. Kubiak would have had to go on was told over the headset.

Well, there were plenty of replays shown on national television. If they'd given me a number, I could've texted them from the bar and told them not to challenge that call. The dumb*** announcers were watching the same thing I was, which showed the ball come out when he hit the ground, and they were ignoring it just like whoever is in charge of challenges for the Texans. Incompetence all around.After the first few replays on TV they started to just focus on the feet, but I don't know how we know exactly what the refs are looking at under the booth. I didn't figure it related to what's on TV.I guess I shouldn't have pointed all the blame to Kubiak. I at least HOPE he's got someone upstairs watching a broadcast and talking to him. But it wouldn't surprise me if Kubiak appointed him. We all know how well Kubiak is at hiring his own guys (Frank Bush).And this may be a separate topic, but someone up there needs to be in communication with Kubiak at all times - not just when we need to challenge. I recall a game against Indy a couple years ago when someone (maybe Slaton?) fumbled the ball just past the pylon (should've been a touchback) but the refs didn't catch it. Instead they ruled him down inbounds at the 1 yard line which kept the clock running. I sure as hell saw it and was screaming at the TV to snap the ball - even if only to spike it - before the 2 minute warning. Instead they couldn't get a play in that they liked and let the clock hit the 2 minute warning. What happens during that time? Indy notices what I saw and challenges the play. So we come out of the 2 minute warning on defense at the 20 instead of on offense at the 1. Straight up incompetence. Cost us that game and it will cost us games in the future if we don't sort it out. I don't want to see that be the difference this year.

2010 called, they want their Kubiak hate back.

I agree with Kubiak's poor replay history and clock management. The guy seems clueless when it comes to these matters.

Being on a website like this, you probably notice nearly every team's fans think their coach is bad at challenges. Fans has a warped view of what is and isn't a good challenge. It is also highly dependent on what the guys in the booth tell the coach is worth risking the timeout on. The complaining about clock management is so 2010, most of last year and all of this year have been absolutely fine imo. Some Houston fans have just been anti Kubiak since the beginning, and will not change their minds.

 

[GregR]

Kubiak on Lestar Jean injury:

We got a little issue with (WR) Lestar Jean. He’s got a meniscus issue that we’re going to scope in the morning. I would say he would definitely be out this week, but we think it’ll be a brief return here hopefully a couple weeks.”

Keshawn taking Jean's spot and Posey playing behind Walter. I'd guess they keep Martin as the slot WR and also have him back up Andre:

(on WR DeVier Posey) “I feel good. He’s had two good weeks of practice. He was actually our scout team player of the week. I can’t remember if it was last week or the first week, but I feel good about him. He’s a guy we’ll probably put behind (WR) Kevin (Walter) and let (WR) Keshawn (Martin) work behind (WR) Andre (Johnson) since Keshawn has worked both spots. It’s his time. He’s worked hard to get to where he’s at, plus he can help (Special Teams Coordinator) Joe, too. I think he can help Joe on special teams.”

 

[GregR]

Adam Caplan reporting that Brett Hartman has been suspended another 8 games.

 

[GregR]

Joe Mays got a 1 game suspension and $50k fine for his hit on Schaub.

 

[GregR]

With the win in Denver, Gary Kubiak is now 50-49 as a head coach, climbing above the .500 mark for the first time.

As a franchise, it's still a long road to .500. 68-95 record for a .417 winning percentage so far.

 

[coolnerd]

Ben Tate getting an x-ray on his toe. Nothing more yet.

 

[coolnerd]

Head Coach Gary Kubiak

(on the team’s health) “(RG Antoine) Caldwell has an ankle sprain. He went back on the field the second half. He could have went in, had we got in trouble. I think he’s going to be day-to-day, and we do have an extra day of rest for him this week so I’ll have to let you guys know come Thursday. (SS Quintin) Demps had surgery today, broke his forearm so he’s had two surgeries in a row, back-to-back. We do expect him to come back, don’t quite know how long that will be but he is going to miss some time. That’s where we’re at with him today. (FS Shiloh) Keo banged his shoulder a little bit. He’s fine. He’s back to work today. Ben (Tate)’s got a toe bothering him. He missed practice today, missed our walk through. We’re getting some X-rays on that and we’ll find out where we’re at on Thursday.”

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-Monday-practice/3c189e3c-ee96-44d9-aeb0-652ee5a0ee3e

 

[cstu]

Schaub is looking like the MVP so far this year - 67% completions, 7.7% YPA, 7 TD, 1 INT, and just 3 sacks.

 

[GregR]

Thoughts on Kubiak's game management Sunday... did a good job with the challenge of the spot that picked up a first down. When he walked out on the field by the ref looking up, was waiting for one last view from the stadium jumbotron of the play.

One mistake I noticed was using the use of the 2nd timeout at the end of the first half. 3rd down for Tennessee and then Houston stops the clock with 2:07. Which means Titans punted on 4th down, and at the end of the play was the 2 minute warning at 1:57.

However, the clock would have stopped anyway on the change of possession. So essentially they had 3 potential clock stops (the timeout, the 2 minute warning, and change of possession), but only got 2 of them used because the 2 minute warning and change of possession occurred on the same play.

Better would have been to let the clock run down to the 2 minute warning on 3rd down. Then they punt and assuming it was the same 10 second punt play, Houston would have gotten the ball with 1:50 left, but with that extra timeout still.

So, 1st and 10 at 1:57 and 1 timeout left... or 1st and 10 at 1:50 with 2 timeouts left. I'd definitely take the latter... you will bleed off more than 7 seconds just getting back to the line and spiking it.

 

[GregR]

Keeping fingers crossed for Cushing, but he was apparently on crutches at the game.I was tweeting during the game the Texans need to just cut Holliday and replace him with a kickoff specialist who can get touchbacks most every time. Though I think Lance Zierlein is probably right they may cut him to sign a LB if Cushing is indeed hurt.Getting Sharpton back would be a blessing if he is. He's on PUP and can be activated after Green Bay, but don't know if he's healthy enough to play.Here's Adam Caplan's list of best available free agent LBs. Cooper had 3 years under Wade in San Diego, but I am not really all that familiar with his game.

Inside LinebackerStephen CooperBarrett RuudAndra DavisGary GuytonE.J. HendersonJames FarriorOmar Gaither (WLB in 4-3)Greg JonesScott McKillopLeon WilliamsRennie CurranNate TriplettPhillip DillardOutside LinebackerBrian Rolle (WLB in 4-3)Shawne Merriman (OLB in 3-4/DE in 4-3)Reggie Torbor (ILB in 3-4/SLB in 4-3)Ernie Sims (WLB in 4-3)Travis LaBoy (OLB in 3-4/DE in 4-3)Brady Poppinga (SLB in 4-3/OLB in 3-4)Ernie Sims (WLB in 4-3)Kevin Bentley (SLB/MLB in 4-3)Darryl Blackstock (SLB in 4-3)David Vobora (SLB in 4-3)Na’il Diggs (SLB in 4-3)Isaiah Ekejiuba (SLB in 4-3)Xaiver Adibi (WLB in 4-3)Prescott Burgess (OLB in 3-4/ILB in 3-4)Danny Batten (SLB in 4-3/OLB in 3-4)Cameron Sheffield (OLB in 3-4)Spencer Adkins (SLB in 4-3)Thaddeus Gibson (SLB in 4-3)Cyril Obiozor (SLB in 4-3/OLB in 3-4)Ricky Elmore (OLB in 3-4)