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Houston Texans off-season Thread (1 Viewer)

rotoworld is all about suggesting a rbbc to begin the season. Is there any quotes from the coaching staff about this besides the "tate looks great " ones?

 
Pumpnick said:
rotoworld is all about suggesting a rbbc to begin the season. Is there any quotes from the coaching staff about this besides the "tate looks great " ones?
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here's the thing for me: the timing. Foster says he's rested, ready and feeling good; Tate has played well. It's the convergence of these two things that makes me think RBBC at least in the early going. Foster will need to shake off the rust and the playcalling isn't shying away from Tate.

 
DeAndre Hopkins has been completely cleared to resume play after his concussion.

The Texans waived/injured NT David Hunter and WR Mike Smith. released LB Elliot Coffey, LB Ja'Gared Davis, RB Ray Graham, FB Zach Boren, QB Stephen McGee, TE Adam Schiltz, DE Earl Okine, NT Nick Mondek, CB Travis Howard, G Bryan Collins and P Andrew Shapiro.

They also stashed placed WR Alec Lemon on Injured Reserve.

Ed Reed went to get an injection from his surgeon, and should know by the end of the week if he'll play week 1.

 
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Greg Russell said:
They also stashed placed WR Alec Lemon on Injured Reserve.
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This is such an obvious, fake injury. Lemon just played on Sunday and looked decent. Dropped a TD then later caught one. This Kubiak IR stash is getting hilarious. Worse than Randy Bullock's "groin tear" last season. Do other teams do this? Surely they do but man, is it as obvious as when the Texans do it???
 
TheFly06 said:
Greg Russell said:
They also stashed placed WR Alec Lemon on Injured Reserve.
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This is such an obvious, fake injury. Lemon just played on Sunday and looked decent. Dropped a TD then later caught one. This Kubiak IR stash is getting hilarious. Worse than Randy Bullock's "groin tear" last season. Do other teams do this? Surely they do but man, is it as obvious as when the Texans do it???
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I don't know if every team does it, but there are definitely other teams who do it. Patriots most years I note someone that looked like an IR roster stash.

Agree with you, I felt the same last year that's what Bullock was about.

 
Honestly I think Foster just didn't want to go to training camp. Classic vet move.

And I am probably alone here, but I don't think Tate is anything special. He just runs hard through the holes that are made. Still looks like a plodder to me.

 
jsharlan said:
Honestly I think Foster just didn't want to go to training camp. Classic vet move.

And I am probably alone here, but I don't think Tate is anything special. He just runs hard through the holes that are made. Still looks like a plodder to me.
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I think little more of him than that, but he far from more talented than Foster that you will see posted around way too much.

 
coolnerd said:
jsharlan said:
Honestly I think Foster just didn't want to go to training camp. Classic vet move.

And I am probably alone here, but I don't think Tate is anything special. He just runs hard through the holes that are made. Still looks like a plodder to me.
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I think little more of him than that, but he far from more talented than Foster that you will see posted around way too much.
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Yes, I think Tate is good enough to be an average NFL starting RB if playing behind an average line. Behind a great line he could be better than average, but of course that's true of anyone.

I do think Foster has above average talents. But he's not a shifty creator in the way of a McCoy for instance who will probably always get his. Foster's output I think jumps quicker than others when he's behind a good line that can get him holes that play into his vision and his ability to make guys miss when running downhill at them.

 
I have to think with as good as Yates and Keenum have looked, that the Texans will have to try to keep both if they can at all swing it.

 
My guess at the 53 man roster. I agree with Greg, they will keep 3 QBs.

Offense:

QB

Schaub

Yates

Keenum

RB/FB

Foster

Tate

Karim

Greg Jones

WR

Andre

Deandre

Posey

Martin

Jean

TE

Daniels

Graham

Griffin

O-Line

D Brown

Wade Smith

Myers

Brooks

Newton

Harris

Ben jones

Quessenbury

Gardner

Defense:

DL

Watt

A. Smith

Mitchell

Crick

Jamison

T McClain

ILB

Cushing

Mays

Sharpton

Dobbins

OLB

B Reed

Mercilus

W Jefferson

Montgomery

Braman

T Williams

CB

Joseph

Jackson

McCain

Harris

Bouye

S

Ed Reed

Manning

Keo

Swearinger

Pleasant

ST

Bullock

Lechler

Weeks

 
This roster means that 3rd rounder Brennan Willams, 6th rounders Chris Jones and Alan Bonner do not make the team. I predict that Williams will go on IR as he has been dealing with a knee injury.

 
Casting Couch said:
So you think both Dinnis Johnson and Cierre Wood get cut ? I just can't see that happening.
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Unfortunately, yes. Kubiak is loyal to veterans, and that's why I think he'll give the 3rd RB spot to Deji Karim over the two undrafted rookies. I think Wood has the highest upside of them all, but the supposed knock on him is that he can't contribute on special teams, something the coaches want from the 3rd RB spot. Dennis Johnson has great speed but not the best vision for this system. He muffed a punt as well tonight but had it canceled due to Dallas penalty. If Texans have their way, Wood and/or Johnson will clear waivers and be stashed on the practice squad. Remember: last preseason Jonathan Grimes looked great running with the 3rd string too. But he wasnt gonna beat out Justin Forsett. Grimes was put on the PSquad but later claimed by the Jets. Texans got him back later but then was dropped and picked up by the Jags.

 
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I hope I'm wrong tho! Cierre Wood looks GREAT in this system. Looks like a lanky Foster. Give him a year in the strength and conditioning program and he could be the #2 back next year when Tate leaves. Wishful thinking anyway...

 
I think they need to keep 6 corners. 5 seems to light in a league going more and more spread offense. If Reed is close to healthy, they drop a safety. Also I am really worried about rush linebackers. A 3-4 defense really lives by its edge rushers. Reed is solid, but not special. Mercilus is a giant question mark and didn't play all camp. Behind them is a bunch of undeveloped youth. Its rather scary.

 
Gary Kubiak said after the game he would likely keep three quarterbacks. There's too much invested in time and resources to expose Keenum, who made a quantum leap in improvement in the offseason.

 
I think the extra QB pretty much takes what might have been a spot for Johnson or Wood away, yeah.

Who would you cut to make room for one of them? If I had to cut anything it would be a safety... but with only 5 corners they would be kind of thin in numbers at DB if they cut it down to 4. They normally have 10 or more DBs, though in 2007 they did have 9.

Or maybe you cut Gardner and hope you don't suffer multiple injuries at tackle. But Texans under Kubiak have always had at least 9 OL, and one year had 10.

 
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Greg Russell said:
I think the extra QB pretty much takes what might have been a spot for Johnson or Wood away, yeah.

Who would you cut to make room for one of them? If I had to cut anything it would be a safety... but with only 5 corners they would be kind of thin in numbers at DB if they cut it down to 4. They normally have 10 or more DBs, though in 2007 they did have 9.

Or maybe you cut Gardner and hope you don't suffer multiple injuries at tackle. But Texans under Kubiak have always had at least 9 OL, and one year had 10.
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I just don't see Houston rostering 4 RBs, especially since wood can't help on ST. If he stays on the roster, that means Deji Karim is out. If it wasnt for Braman's outstanding ST skills, he would be cut. Maybe they IR stash Trevardo Williams? Also, it seems like they want LB Justin Tuggle to make the team. He's been playing outside all camp and preseason I believe, but in yesterday's game he played Inside LB. they're trying to find a spot for him. No way we carry fewer than 10 DBs with Ed Reed's availability in question.

 
They will get Wood on the PS no doubt. No need to carry 4 RBs on the active, and its not like he's such a talent that he will get plucked away.

 
We goofed on something with the roster prediction.

Antonio Smith doesn't take up a roster spot until he returns from suspension. So there is one extra spot until after week 1. With Dennis Johnson gone already, I'd speculate on Cierre Wood or Justin Tuggle for it.

 
BTW, Shane Freaking Lechler is amazing. Doesn't even need a cover team to down it outside the end zone. I still don't get how punters can kick it that far, with that much accuracy, and with such perfect spin to limit the bounce and make it die like that.

 
I posted somewhere that Hopkins had cleared the concussion protocol and was back to practice, but either wherever I heard it got it wrong or I misunderstood or something. He's still at one of the latter stages apparently.

 
TheFly06 said:
I hope I'm wrong tho! Cierre Wood looks GREAT in this system. Looks like a lanky Foster. Give him a year in the strength and conditioning program and he could be the #2 back next year when Tate leaves. Wishful thinking anyway...
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I'm happy to be wrong! Longtime media man in Houston, Bob Allen tweeted this:Bob Allen @BobAllenKHOU

Looks like Cierre Wood will be the 3rd Texans running back..I've learned that Deji Karim has been waived

5:49 PM - 30 Aug 2013

 
Five former Texans made Eagles roster: DeMeco Ryans, Connor Barwin, James Casey, Jeff Maehl and Donnie Jones.

 
Texans part ways with plenty of guys

Posted by Mike Florio on August 31, 2013, 5:12 PM EDT

Carmichael AP

Plenty of Texans are now former Texans. Unless the guys fired by the Texans are from, you know, Texas.

The Texans announced that the following players have been released: defensive end Keith Browner, tight end Jake Byrne, cornerback Roc Carmichael, fullback Tyler Clutts, linebacker Cameron Collins, receiver Andy Cruse, offensive lineman Tyler Horn, defensive end Delano Johnson, running back Dennis Johnson, safety Orhian Johnson, nose tackle Chris Jones, running back Deji Karim, offensive lineman Alex Kupper, cornerback Elbert Mack, tackle Nate Menkin, linebacker Mike Mohamed, receiver EZ Nwachukwu, and safety Jawanza Starling.

Carmichael was a fourth-round pick in 2011. He appeared in six regular-season games last season.

The Texans also placed three on injured reserve: receiver Alan Bonner (hamstring), tackle Brennan Williams (knee), and linebacker Trevardo Williams (knee). Three others have been released with an injury settlement: defensive lineman Daniel Muir, nose tackle David Hunter, and receiver Mike Smith.

As expected, safety Ed Reed has been moved to the active roster from the PUP list.
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TheFly06 said:
Greg Russell said:
They also stashed placed WR Alec Lemon on Injured Reserve.
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This is such an obvious, fake injury. Lemon just played on Sunday and looked decent. Dropped a TD then later caught one. This Kubiak IR stash is getting hilarious. Worse than Randy Bullock's "groin tear" last season. Do other teams do this? Surely they do but man, is it as obvious as when the Texans do it???
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Here's an example of Tennessee doing it with returner Marc Mariani because they know if they cut him, the Rams were going to pick him up. http://www.tennessean.com/article/20130831/SPORTS01/308310073

When Marc Mariani woke up on Saturday, he knew he was on the roster bubble.

Yet he figured NFL cut-down day would end with him either as part of the Titans’ 53-man roster or as a free agent seeking a job with another team.

Neither scenario materialized.

The Titans elected to place the popular wide receiver/return man on season-ending injured reserve, even though the shoulder injury that sidelined him since Aug. 8 is nearly healed. With his contract expiring at season’s end, his NFL future is unclear.

The player who spent all of 2012 on injured reserve after breaking his leg in a preseason game said he needed some time to let the development soak in.

“The competitor in me wants nothing more than to play football,” said Mariani, who went to the Pro Bowl in 2010 as a return man. “When I first got the news it was hard for me to swallow. I didn’t really think my season would be over today. So it is a little hard. But I am also very blessed. I am blessed to have an organization that has faith in me and wants to invest in me as a football player and a person and keep me in the building.

“When it came down to it, it was the best decision for the team, and I think there’s a lot of guys around the league that would trade places with me. … So now I go back to work.”

Mariani will receive his salary of $575,000 while rehabbing the injury.

The Titans had the option of placing him on injured-reserve recall, which would have made the fourth-year pro eligible to start practicing after six weeks and to play after eight weeks.

In that scenario he would have to be on the initial 53-man roster until Tuesday, meaning the Titans would have to cut someone else in order to protect Mariani for the necessary four days.

“I don’t want to step on anyone’s toes, but I think I was ready to play some football this year. I was planning on being ready to go,” he said. “But they felt like this was best and I don’t think they are trying to pull any fast ones. I think they are doing what’s best for the team and for me. So it’s tough to argue.

“This was by far the hardest Tennessee Titan team I’ve had to make during my time here. It’s a good football team and roster spots were at a premium. So I understand. I’m not disgruntled at all.”

Had the Titans released Mariani, there’s a good chance the Rams would have pursued him. Rams coach Jeff Fisher drafted the Montana product for the Titans with a seventh-round pick in 2010.

Instead, Mariani has no choice but to prepare for the 2014 season, in hopes of resuming his NFL career after a two-year layoff.

“Long-term, having the year to save my body and get stronger would help anyone. The short term of not being able to play now is hard to get past, but it is not worse than any challenge I have faced before,” he said. “Like I always do, I am just going to give myself a little time to collect my thoughts and regroup and then I am going to turn it on turbo-charge and whip some (butt) again.

“At the same time, I will be supporting the guys all season, and now I will be one of the biggest Titans fans there is. I should be good at it, because I spent a year doing it last year, too.”
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Texans announced their practice squad:

Keith Browner

Zach Boren

Roc Carmichael

Andy Cruse

Ray Graham

Alex Kupper

Mike Mohamed

EZ Nwachukwu

 
Texans, Brian Cushing agree to long-term contract extension

Posted by Michael David Smith on September 3, 2013, 5:06 PM EDT

The Houston Texans are locking up linebacker Brian Cushing for the long haul.

Cushing and the Texans have agreed on the terms of a long-term contract extension, a league source tells PFT.

Although Cushing was entering the final season of the five-year contract he signed as the Texans’ first-round draft pick in 2009, he won’t test free agency. Instead, he’ll be a building block in Houston’s defense for years to come.

The 26-year-old Cushing’s 2012 season was cut short when he suffered a torn ACL in the fifth game of the year. Obviously, the Texans have no doubt that Cushing is healthy for this season, and for many more seasons to come.
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6 year extension according to radio.

 
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Wow, was wondering where we got the money to do this and found this blurb:

Edit: Frees up about 4.125M spread out in 2014-2016

HOUSTON -- The Texans signed inside linebacker Brian Cushing to a six-year extension, locking up their defensive leader in through the 2019 season, according to a league source.

Cushing's contract was set to expire after this season and the Texans have a policy of not negotiating deals once the season begins.

Cushing, a centerpiece on the club's defense, missed most of last season with a torn ACL. He suffered the injury in Week 5 of last season against the New York Jets as the result of an illegal block by Jets guard Matt Slauson.

In order to free the salary cap space to sign Cushing, the team restructured receiver Andre Johnson's deal to reduce a $10.5 million salary this year to $5 million in base salary and $5.5 million in bonuses, a league source said.
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