How do you feel about Cutler now? (current info on pg 46) (1 Viewer)

[candymanvandyfan]

Jay Cutler's career interception percentage is the exact same as Brett Favre's career interception percentage and a full 2.2% lower than Terry Bradshaw's career interception percentage. Jay Cutler has as many passing yards in 3 and a half years as Terry Bradshaw had through seven years....Brett Favre had more than 20 interceptions in six seasons. Terry Bradshaw had 20+ in five seasons.

Favre and Bradshaw played in an entirely different era. Interception rates in general were much higher in the 1970s.

You do know that Favre is playing now, not in the seventies, right?

 

[candymanvandyfan]

Same as I did before. He has the physical tools to be a great QB, but not the mental ones. Maybe one day he will figure it out. In the meantime he will remain a mediocre QB.

Jay Cutler, at the ages of 25 and 26, could set single season franchise records for passing yards and completions for two different NFL franchises in back to back years. In both cases, mind you, he will have done so with #1 and #2 receivers who have three or fewer years of NFL receiving experience and were not taken in the first round of the NFL draft.We'll see...maybe he'll get hurt and won't set the Bears mark this year, but at this point, it's a real possibility.

 

[switz]

Jay Cutler's career interception percentage is the exact same as Brett Favre's career interception percentage and a full 2.2% lower than Terry Bradshaw's career interception percentage. Jay Cutler has as many passing yards in 3 and a half years as Terry Bradshaw had through seven years....Brett Favre had more than 20 interceptions in six seasons. Terry Bradshaw had 20+ in five seasons.

Favre and Bradshaw played in an entirely different era. Interception rates in general were much higher in the 1970s.

You do know that Favre is playing now, not in the seventies, right?

I thought the same thing when I read it, but then though... he kinda looks like he's in his 70's

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Jay Cutler's career interception percentage is the exact same as Brett Favre's career interception percentage and a full 2.2% lower than Terry Bradshaw's career interception percentage. Jay Cutler has as many passing yards in 3 and a half years as Terry Bradshaw had through seven years....Brett Favre had more than 20 interceptions in six seasons. Terry Bradshaw had 20+ in five seasons.

Favre and Bradshaw played in an entirely different era. Interception rates in general were much higher in the 1970s.

You do know that Favre is playing now, not in the seventies, right?

I know he's still playing, but you can't discount the portion of his career that spanned the '70s and '80s.

 

[mbuehner]

Jay Cutler's career interception percentage is the exact same as Brett Favre's career interception percentage and a full 2.2% lower than Terry Bradshaw's career interception percentage. Jay Cutler has as many passing yards in 3 and a half years as Terry Bradshaw had through seven years....Brett Favre had more than 20 interceptions in six seasons. Terry Bradshaw had 20+ in five seasons.

Favre and Bradshaw played in an entirely different era. Interception rates in general were much higher in the 1970s.

You do know that Favre is playing now, not in the seventies, right?

I know he's still playing, but you can't discount the portion of his career that spanned the '70s and '80s.

Favre was in 5th grade in 1979. Are we including Pop Warner?

 

[tdmills]

Jay Cutler's career interception percentage is the exact same as Brett Favre's career interception percentage and a full 2.2% lower than Terry Bradshaw's career interception percentage. Jay Cutler has as many passing yards in 3 and a half years as Terry Bradshaw had through seven years....Brett Favre had more than 20 interceptions in six seasons. Terry Bradshaw had 20+ in five seasons.

Favre and Bradshaw played in an entirely different era. Interception rates in general were much higher in the 1970s.

You do know that Favre is playing now, not in the seventies, right?

I know he's still playing, but you can't discount the portion of his career that spanned the '70s and '80s.

hahahaha

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Jay Cutler's career interception percentage is the exact same as Brett Favre's career interception percentage and a full 2.2% lower than Terry Bradshaw's career interception percentage. Jay Cutler has as many passing yards in 3 and a half years as Terry Bradshaw had through seven years....Brett Favre had more than 20 interceptions in six seasons. Terry Bradshaw had 20+ in five seasons.

Favre and Bradshaw played in an entirely different era. Interception rates in general were much higher in the 1970s.

You do know that Favre is playing now, not in the seventies, right?

I thought he was also playing in the seventies.

 

[Horses Mouth]

I would like to put my foot through the internet and kick you in the balls for that.

Thanks for the sig, dude.

i thought the same thing.

 

[mbuehner]

Jay Cutler's career interception percentage is the exact same as Brett Favre's career interception percentage and a full 2.2% lower than Terry Bradshaw's career interception percentage. Jay Cutler has as many passing yards in 3 and a half years as Terry Bradshaw had through seven years....Brett Favre had more than 20 interceptions in six seasons. Terry Bradshaw had 20+ in five seasons.

Favre and Bradshaw played in an entirely different era. Interception rates in general were much higher in the 1970s.

You do know that Favre is playing now, not in the seventies, right?

I thought he was also playing in the seventies.

Now he'll play at any temperature.

 

[sho nuff]

Im still wondering how comparing Cutler's INT rate to the all time Interception leader in the NFL is a good thing for Cutler?

Can anyone answer this?

TD to INT rate I could see...Favre's is pretty good even with those bad years in there. But just INT rate would be foolish to want to be compared being equal to Favre.

 

[boubucarow]

Im still wondering how comparing Cutler's INT rate to the all time Interception leader in the NFL is a good thing for Cutler?Can anyone answer this?TD to INT rate I could see...Favre's is pretty good even with those bad years in there. But just INT rate would be foolish to want to be compared being equal to Favre.

You can't excuse his turnovers through any means. The hope as a Bears fan is that he matures to the points that his 18-24 picks becomes 10-16 picks at some point or that enough is done to get into the playoffs and he steps up his game then which he is capable of doing. Aside from the turnovers, his combination of abilities including his levels of arm strength, accuracy, pocket awareness, ability to read defenses, and ability to throw on roll outs have not been seen in Chicago for years if ever. Yes, with that goods comes the bad. He will cost his team games with his decision making but the hope is that he will win more games with his abilities.I don't regret the trade as a Bears fan at all. I regret the ownership always and coaching staff at times, but my belief is that Cutler will be good enough to win a Super Bowl for a less talented team than any QB the Bears could have had this year and most likely into the future.All that said, right now he is not playing like a top 10 Qb in this league. He has shown flashes but is making too many mental errors.

 

[big0mar]

Serious question:

When has Jay Cutler ever been on a winning team?

 

[big0mar]

Im still wondering how comparing Cutler's INT rate to the all time Interception leader in the NFL is a good thing for Cutler?

Can anyone answer this?

TD to INT rate I could see...Favre's is pretty good even with those bad years in there. But just INT rate would be foolish to want to be compared being equal to Favre.

You can't excuse his turnovers through any means. The hope as a Bears fan is that he matures to the points that his 18-24 picks becomes 10-16 picks at some point or that enough is done to get into the playoffs and he steps up his game then which he is capable of doing. Aside from the turnovers, his combination of abilities including his levels of arm strength, accuracy, pocket awareness, ability to read defenses, and ability to throw on roll outs have not been seen in Chicago for years if ever. Yes, with that goods comes the bad. He will cost his team games with his decision making but the hope is that he will win more games with his abilities.I don't regret the trade as a Bears fan at all. I regret the ownership always and coaching staff at times, but my belief is that Cutler will be good enough to win a Super Bowl for a less talented team than any QB the Bears could have had this year and most likely into the future.

All that said, right now he is not playing like a top 10 Qb in this league. He has shown flashes but is making too many mental errors.

If Cutler keeps having boneheaded games the team will never get near a SB. Despite how great he can look at times, you need a QB that essentially plays well for 4 games in a row. I haven't seen the consistency from Cutler yet.Another thing that sours me about Cutler is the fact that he basically called out his defense last season, before the season was even over. Couple that with Urlacher supposedly saying Cutler was a "#####", and I'm not sure how effective of a leader Cutler is.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Serious question:

When has Jay Cutler ever been on a winning team?

The Broncos were 9-7 in 2006. He was on that team. The Bears are currently 4-3, which I am pretty sure is a winning record.

So, basically, in his four NFL seasons thus far, he has only been on one losing team (the '07 Broncos went 7-9).

Hope that answered your question good enough.

Another thing that sours me about Cutler is the fact that he basically called out his defense last season, before the season was even over.

He did? When? And if he did, well, that defense sucked so badly that they probably needed to be called out.

Couple that with Urlacher supposedly saying Cutler was a "#####", and I'm not sure how effective of a leader Cutler is.

Supposedly? I am pretty sure that was an unfounded rumor.

 

[big0mar]

Serious question:

When has Jay Cutler ever been on a winning team?

The Broncos were 9-7 in 2006. He was on that team. The Bears are currently 4-3, which I am pretty sure is a winning record.

So, basically, in his four NFL seasons thus far, he has only been on one losing team (the '07 Broncos went 7-9).

Hope that answered your question good enough.

Another thing that sours me about Cutler is the fact that he basically called out his defense last season, before the season was even over.

He did? When? And if he did, well, that defense sucked so badly that they probably needed to be called out.

Couple that with Urlacher supposedly saying Cutler was a "#####", and I'm not sure how effective of a leader Cutler is.

Supposedly? I am pretty sure that was an unfounded rumor.

2006? When he started 5 games?Let me rephrase:

When has Jay Cutler started a full season for a team that finished with a winning record?

 

[candymanvandyfan]

Im still wondering how comparing Cutler's INT rate to the all time Interception leader in the NFL is a good thing for Cutler?Can anyone answer this?TD to INT rate I could see...Favre's is pretty good even with those bad years in there. But just INT rate would be foolish to want to be compared being equal to Favre.

You are talking total #. I am talking rate. Interceptions per pass attempt.Favre isn't anywhere close to the INT % leader. He may be the leader among those quarterbacks having 9500 + career passing attempts... Favre, Marino, Elway, Moon, Bledsoe, Testaverde, Tarkenton, Collins, and Fouts all had career INT rates over 3. So does Jay.Peyton Manning stands alone in the top ten career attempts leaders as not having an interception rate over 3. Some of the guys I referenced were in the fours. Needless to say, these guys aren't the worst. These are guys who threw thousands of passes. If you take it out to the top 20 career attempts leaders, only Joe Montana gets added to the list as having an interception rate under 3, no doubt a result of the offense he played in and his greatness.Jay's career numbers are in at 3.3%, roughly one out of every 30 passes gets intercepted.

 

[renesauz]

Jay Cutler's career interception percentage is the exact same as Brett Favre's career interception percentage and a full 2.2% lower than Terry Bradshaw's career interception percentage. Jay Cutler has as many passing yards in 3 and a half years as Terry Bradshaw had through seven years....Brett Favre had more than 20 interceptions in six seasons. Terry Bradshaw had 20+ in five seasons.

Favre and Bradshaw played in an entirely different era. Interception rates in general were much higher in the 1970s.

You do know that Favre is playing now, not in the seventies, right?

I know he's still playing, but you can't discount the portion of his career that spanned the '70s and '80s.

WOW! I knew Favre's been in the league a while, but wouldn't a guy playing in 1979 be like, 50 years old at least?When was Favre's rookie year again? Interception rates of the 90's were significantly worse then those of the 2000's?????

 

[candymanvandyfan]

When has Jay Cutler started a full season for a team that finished with a winning record?

Steve Young didn't start a full season for a team that finished with a winning record until he was 31. Warren Moon didn't do that until he was 33.

 

[big0mar]

When has Jay Cutler started a full season for a team that finished with a winning record?Steve Young didn't start a full season for a team that finished with a winning record until he was 31. Warren Moon didn't do that until he was 33.

Ummm I believe Young won a lot of games in college.

 

[Ghost Rider]

2006? When he started 5 games?

Yep. Hey, you asked the question.

Let me rephrase:When has Jay Cutler started a full season for a team that finished with a winning record?

Steven Jackson has yet to play on a winning team in the NFL, and he is in his 6th NFL season. In fact, since becoming the full-time starter in '05, the Rams are 20-52. I guess he is no good as a result, right? Oh but that's right, QBs are held to the unfair standard of just being judged solely off of their TEAM's wins and losses, while all of the others player do not, right?

 

[big0mar]

2006? When he started 5 games?

Yep. Hey, you asked the question.

Let me rephrase:When has Jay Cutler started a full season for a team that finished with a winning record?

Steven Jackson has yet to play on a winning team in the NFL, and he is in his 6th NFL season. In fact, since becoming the full-time starter in '05, the Rams are 20-52. I guess he is no good as a result, right? Oh but that's right, QBs are held to the unfair standard of just being judged solely off of their TEAM's wins and losses, while all of the others player do not, right?

Apples to oranges. QBs have to be leaders in this league. How many RBs can you say are the leader of their team? How many teams win a super bowl and their QB isn't their leader?

 

[Ghost Rider]

So you agree that they are held to a different standard?

Serious question: You weren't the least bit impressed that Jay Cutler got a Denver team with a historically bad defense and 7 or 8 RBs on IR to 8-8 last year? No, he wasn't perfect, but without Jay Cutler last year, that team is lucky to win 5 games. And what if the defense had played worth a crap in the second half of the Buffalo game, instead of blowing a double digit lead? The team would have then gone 9-7 and won the division. Would Cutler suddenly have been a better QB because of something he had nothing to do with (the play of the defense)? I mean, he would have had a winning record, which apparently is why he is not that good (because of his lack of one), according to so many.

 

[candymanvandyfan]

Roger Staubach was 31 before he started all the games in a season and led the team to a winning record for the first time.

YA Tittle was 36 before he did that.

Bob Waterfield never did that.

I'm only pointing out the Hall of Famers here...

 

[big0mar]

So you agree that they are held to a different standard? Serious question: You weren't the least bit impressed that Jay Cutler got a Denver team with a historically bad defense and 7 or 8 RBs on IR to 8-8 last year? No, he wasn't perfect, but without Jay Cutler last year, that team is lucky to win 5 games. And what if the defense had played worth a crap in the second half of the Buffalo game, instead of blowing a double digit lead? The team would have then gone 9-7 and won the division. Would Cutler suddenly have been a better QB because of something he had nothing to do with (the play of the defense)? I mean, he would have had a winning record, which apparently is why he is not that good (because of his lack of one), according to so many.

I don't think you can completely detach Cutler's play from the defense. The fact of the matter is, when your QB turns the ball over a lot, it puts pressure on the defense. I think a lot of it had to do with Shanahan, but at the same time, I think Shanahan's philosophy helped make Cutler look great at times last season. So the two kind of go hand in hand to me.I'm not trying to say Cutler is a bad QB. He impressed me in a lot of games last year. But he had games where he didn't play well at all. KC, Oakland, Miami, Carolina. I'm not sure Cutler can reign it in when he needs to and play solid against teams instead of trying to make throws that he shouldn't be attempting. Only thing that overshadows his physical abilities is his propensity to make flat out bad decisions.

 

[big0mar]

Roger Staubach was 31 before he started all the games in a season and led the team to a winning record for the first time.YA Tittle was 36 before he did that.Bob Waterfield never did that.I'm only pointing out the Hall of Famers here...

Staubach didn't become the starter until he was 31

 

[Ghost Rider]

So you agree that they are held to a different standard? Serious question: You weren't the least bit impressed that Jay Cutler got a Denver team with a historically bad defense and 7 or 8 RBs on IR to 8-8 last year? No, he wasn't perfect, but without Jay Cutler last year, that team is lucky to win 5 games. And what if the defense had played worth a crap in the second half of the Buffalo game, instead of blowing a double digit lead? The team would have then gone 9-7 and won the division. Would Cutler suddenly have been a better QB because of something he had nothing to do with (the play of the defense)? I mean, he would have had a winning record, which apparently is why he is not that good (because of his lack of one), according to so many.

I don't think you can completely detach Cutler's play from the defense. The fact of the matter is, when your QB turns the ball over a lot, it puts pressure on the defense. I think a lot of it had to do with Shanahan, but at the same time, I think Shanahan's philosophy helped make Cutler look great at times last season. So the two kind of go hand in hand to me.I'm not trying to say Cutler is a bad QB. He impressed me in a lot of games last year. But he had games where he didn't play well at all. KC, Oakland, Miami, Carolina. I'm not sure Cutler can reign it in when he needs to and play solid against teams instead of trying to make throws that he shouldn't be attempting. Only thing that overshadows his physical abilities is his propensity to make flat out bad decisions.

Yes, he definitely had games where he didn't play well, especially the ones you pointed out, but while he can sometimes make a big mistake that leads to a loss, he also has had plenty of games where his clutch play was responsible for them winning (tons of games in '07 and '08 and the Pittsburgh and Seattle games this season). Think of it this way: A lot of mistake-prone quarterbacks aren't good enough to also have those games where they are lights-out and carry their team to victory. Cutler is. So in his case, it is more than realistic to expect that he will at some point mature as a player to where he doesn't have nearly as many of those games where he plays poorly and the team loses, while still having plenty of games where he plays really well and leads his team to a win. See what I mean? I mean, he is still technically in only his third season as an NFL starter (he has started 44 games), and not every NFL QB is great right off the bat. Most good ones take a few years to work out the kinks in their game and play consistently well enough to be called a great or even very good NFL quarterback.

 

[big0mar]

So you agree that they are held to a different standard? Serious question: You weren't the least bit impressed that Jay Cutler got a Denver team with a historically bad defense and 7 or 8 RBs on IR to 8-8 last year? No, he wasn't perfect, but without Jay Cutler last year, that team is lucky to win 5 games. And what if the defense had played worth a crap in the second half of the Buffalo game, instead of blowing a double digit lead? The team would have then gone 9-7 and won the division. Would Cutler suddenly have been a better QB because of something he had nothing to do with (the play of the defense)? I mean, he would have had a winning record, which apparently is why he is not that good (because of his lack of one), according to so many.

I don't think you can completely detach Cutler's play from the defense. The fact of the matter is, when your QB turns the ball over a lot, it puts pressure on the defense. I think a lot of it had to do with Shanahan, but at the same time, I think Shanahan's philosophy helped make Cutler look great at times last season. So the two kind of go hand in hand to me.I'm not trying to say Cutler is a bad QB. He impressed me in a lot of games last year. But he had games where he didn't play well at all. KC, Oakland, Miami, Carolina. I'm not sure Cutler can reign it in when he needs to and play solid against teams instead of trying to make throws that he shouldn't be attempting. Only thing that overshadows his physical abilities is his propensity to make flat out bad decisions.

Yes, he definitely had games where he didn't play well, especially the ones you pointed out, but while he can sometimes make a big mistake that leads to a loss, he also has had plenty of games where his clutch play was responsible for them winning (tons of games in '07 and '08 and the Pittsburgh and Seattle games this season). Think of it this way: A lot of mistake-prone quarterbacks aren't good enough to also have those games where they are lights-out and carry their team to victory. Cutler is. So in his case, it is more than realistic to expect that he will at some point mature as a player to where he doesn't have nearly as many of those games where he plays poorly and the team loses, while still having plenty of games where he plays really well and leads his team to a win. See what I mean?

I see exactly what you mean. You are hoping that Cutler becomes a better and more consistent decision maker. Personally, I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe he will be. You can't have those bad games from your QB if you want to be a successful team in this league. Too many good teams out there, if you lose to bad teams you are putting yourself in a huge hole.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I see exactly what you mean. You are hoping that Cutler becomes a better and more consistent decision maker. Personally, I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe he will be.

He flashes it on occasion. He has those games where he is smart with the ball, doesn't take unnecessary chances, takes what the defense gives him, etc. The games against TB, the Jets and Falcons last year, the game against the Steelers this year, etc. Unfortunately for him, it is like when everything around him isn't perfect, I feel like he thinks he needs to do it all, and that is when mistakes happen.

You can't have those bad games from your QB if you want to be a successful team in this league. Too many good teams out there, if you lose to bad teams you are putting yourself in a huge hole.

True to the first part, but as for the second part, he isn't losing to bad teams this year. The Bears have beaten the three teams they should have (Cleveland, Seattle and Detroit), and against the four teams over .500 that they have played, they are 1-3, with Cutler playing extremely well in the Steelers win, the whole team playing horrible in the Bengals loss, and Cutler playing terrible in the first half of the Packers game. I am sure some will try to pin the Falcons loss on Cutler for his two picks, but the team as a whole blew several chances to win that game. Cutler was not the one who fumbled at the 1...that was Forte. And Cutler did not allow a long special teams return and then an easy game-winning TD drive after that. And Cutler did lead the team down in position to win the game, but some penalties in the red zone by the offensive line killed them.

 

[mbuehner]

When has Jay Cutler started a full season for a team that finished with a winning record?

In his whole 2 full seasons?

 

[candymanvandyfan]

When has Jay Cutler started a full season for a team that finished with a winning record?Steve Young didn't start a full season for a team that finished with a winning record until he was 31. Warren Moon didn't do that until he was 33.

Ummm I believe Young won a lot of games in college.

I won't rip the Danny Wuerrfel poster down from over your hope chest if you'll simply acknowledge that college and pro football are different.

 

[big0mar]

When has Jay Cutler started a full season for a team that finished with a winning record?Steve Young didn't start a full season for a team that finished with a winning record until he was 31. Warren Moon didn't do that until he was 33.

Ummm I believe Young won a lot of games in college.

I won't rip the Danny Wuerrfel poster down from over your hope chest if you'll simply acknowledge that college and pro football are different.

I wasn't saying they are the same. I'm just saying that at some point you have to look at causation and not just correlation.

 

[switz]

Oh but that's right, QBs are held to the unfair standard of just being judged solely off of their TEAM's wins and losses, while all of the others player do not, right?

And you call me out for having a double standard, yet you want to give Brady all the credit for the SB rings, but don't want Cutler to get any blame for his losing teams?Pick your poison...

 

[Ghost Rider]

Uh, pretty sure I never gave ALL of the credit to Brady for NE's three rings, and pretty sure I never said Cutler shouldn't get ANY blame for his team's losses, but hey, however you want to spin it to help you sleep at night.

 

[switz]

Uh, pretty sure I never gave ALL of the credit to Brady for NE's three rings, and pretty sure I never said Cutler shouldn't get ANY blame for his team's losses, but hey, however you want to spin it to help you sleep at night.

So you are willing to admit that Brady won those SBs in large part due to his TEAM, not him as an individual.. good.And you are willing to admit that Cutler is responsible in part for his team's losses.I think we're on the same page then.

 

[TitusIII]

It's going to take him at least the rest of this season to get comfortable in the CHI system, and in all likelyhood another season or two as I think Lovie and company are on their way out of town. Time will tell, but there is no denying Cuter's immense potential and physical tools. 2011 will be his make or break year, imo...

 

[moleculo]

It's going to take him at least the rest of this season to get comfortable in the CHI system, and in all likelyhood another season or two as I think Lovie and company are on their way out of town. Time will tell, but there is no denying Cuter's immense potential and physical tools. 2011 will be his make or break year, imo...

what exactly is so difficult about the Chi system that it takes a "franchise" QB a whole season to get comfortable with?

 

[switz]

It's going to take him at least the rest of this season to get comfortable in the CHI system, and in all likelyhood another season or two as I think Lovie and company are on their way out of town. Time will tell, but there is no denying Cuter's immense potential and physical tools. 2011 will be his make or break year, imo...

what exactly is so difficult about the Chi system that it takes a "franchise" QB a whole season to get comfortable with?

It can't be harder for Cutler to run it than it was for Orton, right? I mean, if you listen to the Orton haters, the problem with the offense last year was that Orton couldn't hit the long passes... So if the Bears are running the same offense (they are), and have a stronger armed QB (according to Orton haters), then they should be doing much better, right?

 

[candymanvandyfan]

It's going to take him at least the rest of this season to get comfortable in the CHI system, and in all likelyhood another season or two as I think Lovie and company are on their way out of town. Time will tell, but there is no denying Cuter's immense potential and physical tools. 2011 will be his make or break year, imo...

what exactly is so difficult about the Chi system that it takes a "franchise" QB a whole season to get comfortable with?

It can't be harder for Cutler to run it than it was for Orton, right? I mean, if you listen to the Orton haters, the problem with the offense last year was that Orton couldn't hit the long passes... So if the Bears are running the same offense (they are), and have a stronger armed QB (according to Orton haters), then they should be doing much better, right?

Two of the three wide receivers are 22 years old and had zero career catches heading into this year. The tight end is 24. The running back is 23. The #1 wide receiver is a recently converted, 5'10" return man who didn't have one thousand CAREER receiving yards coming into this season. The offensive line starts two new tackles. The quarterback is in his first year with the club. Sometimes, it's not the difficulty of the system, but the personnel being new to the system and each other. Still, if he can make it through the season, Jay is on pace to break the Bears franchise single season completion and passing yards records this year with this cast.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Let me rephrase:

When has Jay Cutler started a full season for a team that finished with a winning record?

Who cares? When has a quarterback's winning % as a college/rookie/young player ever correlated to success in the NFL? For every Joe Montana, there's a Steve Young.

 

[Buffaloes]

Let me rephrase:

When has Jay Cutler started a full season for a team that finished with a winning record?

Who cares? When has a quarterback's winning % as a college/rookie/young player ever correlated to success in the NFL? For every Joe Montana, there's a Steve Young.

Well yeah, every QB has a backup.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Oh but that's right, QBs are held to the unfair standard of just being judged solely off of their TEAM's wins and losses, while all of the others player do not, right?

you mean like how pitchers have a W-L record and hitters don't?

 

[BigA]

No bump? Clearly the 34pts were his fault. Clearly the pick was his fault when the WR cutoff the route. I say pretty decent job after the rest of the team doesnt show up.

 

[moleculo]

No bump? Clearly the 34pts were his fault. Clearly the pick was his fault when the WR cutoff the route. I say pretty decent job after the rest of the team doesnt show up.

Clearly, significant conclusions are to be drawn from one game. Bears will finish 4-12, despite having a "franchise" QB doing a pretty decent job.good work.

 

[Ghost Rider]

No bump? Clearly the 34pts were his fault. Clearly the pick was his fault when the WR cutoff the route. I say pretty decent job after the rest of the team doesnt show up.

Clearly, significant conclusions are to be drawn from one game. Bears will finish 4-12, despite having a "franchise" QB doing a pretty decent job.good work.

Oh come on, man, I know you are smarter than this. Are you really so jaded by the Cutler/Broncos split? Cutler has several obvious flaws, but the Bears are a deeply-flawed team, and there is only so much one man can do to turn it around. As for drawing conclusions from one game, how many people piled on after the GB game in week 1? Yeah.

 

[thekidd2009]

Benched Cutler for Big Ben this week ....hopefully Big Ben can do something

 

[Mr. Retukes]

I'm surprised to see that I'm the first person here tonight and we're already in the 4th quarter. I was expecting 2 new pages before halftime.

 

[bcr8f]

He needs a better offensive line and thus a run game that's for sure.

 

[Strategery]

Glad I went with McNabb this week. Cutler is the best

 

[chook]

Genuine excuses for three of the four picks. Chicago is a rubbish football team and Cutler is not the reason why.

 

[p00h]

Genuine excuses for three of the four picks. Chicago is a rubbish football team and Cutler is not the reason why.

agreed to an extent. He is part of them being a rubbish football, not the entire reason...not an either or, its somewhere in the middle...