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How do you feel about Cutler now? (current info on pg 46) (4 Viewers)

Yes, those are the wheels coming off in Chicago, and one of the problems with these bumbling Bears is that there is no strong leader in the locker room who knows how to stand up and stop the bleeding once it starts. It’s not Marc Trestman’s strong suit, commanding a room by the force of his soft-spoken presence, and whatever you think quarterback Jay Cutler’s gifts are, he’s not a natural leader. That’s a recipe for trouble when a team has lost four out of five games as the Bears have: not having that one voice that everyone listens and responds to.Sorry, Brandon Marshall. I know you’re trying, but I think it’s difficult for a receiver to fill that role if there’s a void in the leadership department at quarterback and head coach, the two faces of every franchise.

Chicago lost 51-23 at New England on Sunday, dropping to 3-5 as it enters its bye week. The Bears were down 38-7 at the half, the most points they have ever given up in the opening two quarters of a game. Three Patriots touchdowns in a 57-second span late in the second quarter sealed Chicago’s fate and left Trestman looking like he’s out of answers with his maddening club.

There are no trendy "Quarterback Whisperer" labels coming Trestman’s way this season. Cutler looks completely lost and lacking in confidence. He threw an interception and lost a fumble that was returned for a touchdown by the Patriots’ Rob Ninkovich, and his 11 giveaways lead the league. Two recent decisions have to be haunting the Bears ownership and front office about now: They gave Cutler that mega-contract extension last year, and they passed on Bruce Arians in their coaching search in favor of Trestman back in 2013.

Double ouch.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/10/26/nfl-week-8-geno-smith-benched-new-york-jets?page=2&devicetype=default

 
Yes, those are the wheels coming off in Chicago, and one of the problems with these bumbling Bears is that there is no strong leader in the locker room who knows how to stand up and stop the bleeding once it starts. It’s not Marc Trestman’s strong suit, commanding a room by the force of his soft-spoken presence, and whatever you think quarterback Jay Cutler’s gifts are, he’s not a natural leader. That’s a recipe for trouble when a team has lost four out of five games as the Bears have: not having that one voice that everyone listens and responds to.Sorry, Brandon Marshall. I know you’re trying, but I think it’s difficult for a receiver to fill that role if there’s a void in the leadership department at quarterback and head coach, the two faces of every franchise.

Chicago lost 51-23 at New England on Sunday, dropping to 3-5 as it enters its bye week. The Bears were down 38-7 at the half, the most points they have ever given up in the opening two quarters of a game. Three Patriots touchdowns in a 57-second span late in the second quarter sealed Chicago’s fate and left Trestman looking like he’s out of answers with his maddening club.

There are no trendy "Quarterback Whisperer" labels coming Trestman’s way this season. Cutler looks completely lost and lacking in confidence. He threw an interception and lost a fumble that was returned for a touchdown by the Patriots’ Rob Ninkovich, and his 11 giveaways lead the league. Two recent decisions have to be haunting the Bears ownership and front office about now: They gave Cutler that mega-contract extension last year, and they passed on Bruce Arians in their coaching search in favor of Trestman back in 2013.

Double ouch.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/10/26/nfl-week-8-geno-smith-benched-new-york-jets?page=2&devicetype=default
:yes:

 
Respectable? :lmao:
Yeah, coming into this week 7th in passing yards, 6th in comp %, tied for 5th in TDs, still on the high end for ints but an 18 to 8 ratio isn't bad at all.

Of course, there's a lot of people like you who probably never actually played football at a level like D1 college or hell even high school, who think they are football experts and their opinion is valid. So I'll just stay with the facts and leave you computer jockeys to your "opinions." I'm sorry if you got picked on in life.
Do you know me personally? Futhermore, What D1 school did you play for?Actually none of that matters. Cutler has always been overrated. His stats don't mean anything. Giving the ball away is the only consistent thing he does well and matters the most. You seem like a Sweetness alias. Comparing him to Manning, Brees and company is laughable. He along with Ryan and Flacco are average who got paid way too much.

 
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Respectable? :lmao:
Yeah, coming into this week 7th in passing yards, 6th in comp %, tied for 5th in TDs, still on the high end for ints but an 18 to 8 ratio isn't bad at all.

Of course, there's a lot of people like you who probably never actually played football at a level like D1 college or hell even high school, who think they are football experts and their opinion is valid. So I'll just stay with the facts and leave you computer jockeys to your "opinions." I'm sorry if you got picked on in life.
Lamarr, is that you?

 
Any chance he starts completing passes to receivers this year or is it more 15 dump offs a game to Forte and more losses?

 
Respectable? :lmao:
Yeah, coming into this week 7th in passing yards, 6th in comp %, tied for 5th in TDs, still on the high end for ints but an 18 to 8 ratio isn't bad at all.

Of course, there's a lot of people like you who probably never actually played football at a level like D1 college or hell even high school, who think they are football experts and their opinion is valid. So I'll just stay with the facts and leave you computer jockeys to your "opinions." I'm sorry if you got picked on in life.
Do you know me personally? Futhermore, What D1 school did you play for?Actually none of that matters. Cutler has always been overrated. His stats don't mean anything. Giving the ball away is the only consistent thing he does well and matters the most. You seem like a Sweetness alias. Comparing him to Manning, Brees and company is laughable. He along with Ryan and Flacco are average who got paid way too much.
Amen.

 
Respectable? :lmao:
Yeah, coming into this week 7th in passing yards, 6th in comp %, tied for 5th in TDs, still on the high end for ints but an 18 to 8 ratio isn't bad at all.

Of course, there's a lot of people like you who probably never actually played football at a level like D1 college or hell even high school, who think they are football experts and their opinion is valid. So I'll just stay with the facts and leave you computer jockeys to your "opinions." I'm sorry if you got picked on in life.
Do you know me personally? Futhermore, What D1 school did you play for?Actually none of that matters. Cutler has always been overrated. His stats don't mean anything. Giving the ball away is the only consistent thing he does well and matters the most. You seem like a Sweetness alias. Comparing him to Manning, Brees and company is laughable. He along with Ryan and Flacco are average who got paid way too much.
Amen.
Comparing him to Manning, Brees and company is crazy, but who has done that? Yes, he's obviously overpaid. But to claim he's overrated is absolutely insane. Cutler is the most criticized QB of the last 10 years (maybe outside Romo?). Brandon Marshall's about the only person I know saying he belongs in that circle as a real-life QB. But the No. 1 purpose of this board - at least as far as I'm concerned - is FANTASY football.

In my most important fantasy league, for example, Cutler ranks No. 8 among QBs in points-per-game. That's all I care about discussing on this board. That's a whopping 4.3 points below Aaron Rodgers. And I drafted Cutler typically around 4 rounds later than the guy with Rodgers. I'd much rather have Cutler and the player I got when my fantasy opponent took Rodgers. He's a middle-of-the-road QB1 and an UNDERRATED one.

 
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Granted, the Trestman variable isn't a constant but just check Cutler's stats when playing @GB..

2009 - 227/1/4

2010 - 168/0/2

2011 - DNP

2012 - 126/1/4

2013 - DNP

The last time CHI went to Lambeau and won was actually last year with McCown. Before that? 2007 with I believe Orton. Cutler has been on CHI since 2009. Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is, if Cutler simply doesn't turn the ball over I'll consider that a huge win.. forget 300+ yards.

 
My gawd he's been terrible in Lambeau Field. I had the impression he hasn't played well there, but the real numbers are horrific for his last 3 visits: 190 yds/game, TOTAL of 2 TDs & 10 Ints. Yikes.

Edit: dangit, beaten to the punch, hahaha

 
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Granted, the Trestman variable isn't a constant but just check Cutler's stats when playing @GB..

2009 - 227/1/4

2010 - 168/0/2

2011 - DNP

2012 - 126/1/4

2013 - DNP

The last time CHI went to Lambeau and won was actually last year with McCown. Before that? 2007 with I believe Orton. Cutler has been on CHI since 2009. Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is, if Cutler simply doesn't turn the ball over I'll consider that a huge win.. forget 300+ yards.
Trestman variable and the Brandon Marshall/Alshon Jeffrey/Martellus Bennett variables. Yes, he crapped his pants badly, but it's 3 games, you're citing there. Pretty small sample size

I'd say 250 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs is a fair guess for this one.

 
^^^ I've got this strange feeling Cutler won't post "mediocre" fantasy numbers this week. He'll either be top 3 or a total dumpster fire.

 
Granted, the Trestman variable isn't a constant but just check Cutler's stats when playing @GB..

2009 - 227/1/4

2010 - 168/0/2

2011 - DNP

2012 - 126/1/4

2013 - DNP

The last time CHI went to Lambeau and won was actually last year with McCown. Before that? 2007 with I believe Orton. Cutler has been on CHI since 2009. Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is, if Cutler simply doesn't turn the ball over I'll consider that a huge win.. forget 300+ yards.
Trestman variable and the Brandon Marshall/Alshon Jeffrey/Martellus Bennett variables. Yes, he crapped his pants badly, but it's 3 games, you're citing there. Pretty small sample size

I'd say 250 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs is a fair guess for this one.
It's sadly the only sample size I get to work with him as a Bear, I admittedly was hoping for more. I guess you can point towards the McCown win last year and say "Trestman + weapons" variable is key but what I believe was truly key is that McCown didn't turn the ball over once in that game (272/2/0 and no fumbles). If Cutler wasn't giving off the "I can turn the ball over at any second" vibe again this year I'd feel more confident in him turning it around. Not to pick on you or anything, but the mere fact that your "fair guess" still has Cutler turning the ball over twice speaks volumes. As someone stated, this is a fantasy forum so I guess it doesn't mean much but CHI isn't winning with that line from Cutler IMO.

 
Granted, the Trestman variable isn't a constant but just check Cutler's stats when playing @GB..

2009 - 227/1/4

2010 - 168/0/2

2011 - DNP

2012 - 126/1/4

2013 - DNP

The last time CHI went to Lambeau and won was actually last year with McCown. Before that? 2007 with I believe Orton. Cutler has been on CHI since 2009. Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is, if Cutler simply doesn't turn the ball over I'll consider that a huge win.. forget 300+ yards.
Trestman variable and the Brandon Marshall/Alshon Jeffrey/Martellus Bennett variables. Yes, he crapped his pants badly, but it's 3 games, you're citing there. Pretty small sample size

I'd say 250 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs is a fair guess for this one.
It's sadly the only sample size I get to work with him as a Bear, I admittedly was hoping for more. I guess you can point towards the McCown win last year and say "Trestman + weapons" variable is key but what I believe was truly key is that McCown didn't turn the ball over once in that game (272/2/0 and no fumbles). If Cutler wasn't giving off the "I can turn the ball over at any second" vibe again this year I'd feel more confident in him turning it around. Not to pick on you or anything, but the mere fact that your "fair guess" still has Cutler turning the ball over twice speaks volumes. As someone stated, this is a fantasy forum so I guess it doesn't mean much but CHI isn't winning with that line from Cutler IMO.
I wouldn't bet on the Bears to win, but I'd bet on Cutler to put up top 12 fantasy QB numbers, which he's done every game except against Miami. Dolphins are pretty legit on D, Packers are not.

 
ryno1980 said:
SameSongNDance said:
ryno1980 said:
SameSongNDance said:
Granted, the Trestman variable isn't a constant but just check Cutler's stats when playing @GB..

2009 - 227/1/4

2010 - 168/0/2

2011 - DNP

2012 - 126/1/4

2013 - DNP

The last time CHI went to Lambeau and won was actually last year with McCown. Before that? 2007 with I believe Orton. Cutler has been on CHI since 2009. Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is, if Cutler simply doesn't turn the ball over I'll consider that a huge win.. forget 300+ yards.
Trestman variable and the Brandon Marshall/Alshon Jeffrey/Martellus Bennett variables. Yes, he crapped his pants badly, but it's 3 games, you're citing there. Pretty small sample size

I'd say 250 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs is a fair guess for this one.
It's sadly the only sample size I get to work with him as a Bear, I admittedly was hoping for more. I guess you can point towards the McCown win last year and say "Trestman + weapons" variable is key but what I believe was truly key is that McCown didn't turn the ball over once in that game (272/2/0 and no fumbles). If Cutler wasn't giving off the "I can turn the ball over at any second" vibe again this year I'd feel more confident in him turning it around. Not to pick on you or anything, but the mere fact that your "fair guess" still has Cutler turning the ball over twice speaks volumes. As someone stated, this is a fantasy forum so I guess it doesn't mean much but CHI isn't winning with that line from Cutler IMO.
I wouldn't bet on the Bears to win, but I'd bet on Cutler to put up top 12 fantasy QB numbers, which he's done every game except against Miami. Dolphins are pretty legit on D, Packers are not.
:towelwave:

 
ryno1980 said:
SameSongNDance said:
ryno1980 said:
SameSongNDance said:
Granted, the Trestman variable isn't a constant but just check Cutler's stats when playing @GB..

2009 - 227/1/4

2010 - 168/0/2

2011 - DNP

2012 - 126/1/4

2013 - DNP

The last time CHI went to Lambeau and won was actually last year with McCown. Before that? 2007 with I believe Orton. Cutler has been on CHI since 2009. Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is, if Cutler simply doesn't turn the ball over I'll consider that a huge win.. forget 300+ yards.
Trestman variable and the Brandon Marshall/Alshon Jeffrey/Martellus Bennett variables. Yes, he crapped his pants badly, but it's 3 games, you're citing there. Pretty small sample size

I'd say 250 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs is a fair guess for this one.
It's sadly the only sample size I get to work with him as a Bear, I admittedly was hoping for more. I guess you can point towards the McCown win last year and say "Trestman + weapons" variable is key but what I believe was truly key is that McCown didn't turn the ball over once in that game (272/2/0 and no fumbles). If Cutler wasn't giving off the "I can turn the ball over at any second" vibe again this year I'd feel more confident in him turning it around. Not to pick on you or anything, but the mere fact that your "fair guess" still has Cutler turning the ball over twice speaks volumes. As someone stated, this is a fantasy forum so I guess it doesn't mean much but CHI isn't winning with that line from Cutler IMO.
I wouldn't bet on the Bears to win, but I'd bet on Cutler to put up top 12 fantasy QB numbers, which he's done every game except against Miami. Dolphins are pretty legit on D, Packers are not.
:towelwave:
ok larry, if I win, you're not allowed to post on these boards for the rest of the season. You make a post worth reading about as often as Cutler smiles.

 
ryno1980 said:
SameSongNDance said:
ryno1980 said:
SameSongNDance said:
Granted, the Trestman variable isn't a constant but just check Cutler's stats when playing @GB..

2009 - 227/1/4

2010 - 168/0/2

2011 - DNP

2012 - 126/1/4

2013 - DNP

The last time CHI went to Lambeau and won was actually last year with McCown. Before that? 2007 with I believe Orton. Cutler has been on CHI since 2009. Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is, if Cutler simply doesn't turn the ball over I'll consider that a huge win.. forget 300+ yards.
Trestman variable and the Brandon Marshall/Alshon Jeffrey/Martellus Bennett variables. Yes, he crapped his pants badly, but it's 3 games, you're citing there. Pretty small sample size

I'd say 250 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs is a fair guess for this one.
It's sadly the only sample size I get to work with him as a Bear, I admittedly was hoping for more. I guess you can point towards the McCown win last year and say "Trestman + weapons" variable is key but what I believe was truly key is that McCown didn't turn the ball over once in that game (272/2/0 and no fumbles). If Cutler wasn't giving off the "I can turn the ball over at any second" vibe again this year I'd feel more confident in him turning it around. Not to pick on you or anything, but the mere fact that your "fair guess" still has Cutler turning the ball over twice speaks volumes. As someone stated, this is a fantasy forum so I guess it doesn't mean much but CHI isn't winning with that line from Cutler IMO.
I wouldn't bet on the Bears to win, but I'd bet on Cutler to put up top 12 fantasy QB numbers, which he's done every game except against Miami. Dolphins are pretty legit on D, Packers are not.
:towelwave:
ok larry, if I win, you're not allowed to post on these boards for the rest of the season. You make a post worth reading about as often as Cutler smiles.
You should start playing IDP. :football:

 
SameSongNDance said:
Granted, the Trestman variable isn't a constant but just check Cutler's stats when playing @GB..

2009 - 227/1/4

2010 - 168/0/2

2011 - DNP

2012 - 126/1/4

2013 - DNP

The last time CHI went to Lambeau and won was actually last year with McCown. Before that? 2007 with I believe Orton. Cutler has been on CHI since 2009. Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is, if Cutler simply doesn't turn the ball over I'll consider that a huge win.. forget 300+ yards.
:(

This may be the most depressing thing I read all day.

 
ryno1980 said:
SameSongNDance said:
ryno1980 said:
SameSongNDance said:
Granted, the Trestman variable isn't a constant but just check Cutler's stats when playing @GB..

2009 - 227/1/4

2010 - 168/0/2

2011 - DNP

2012 - 126/1/4

2013 - DNP

The last time CHI went to Lambeau and won was actually last year with McCown. Before that? 2007 with I believe Orton. Cutler has been on CHI since 2009. Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is, if Cutler simply doesn't turn the ball over I'll consider that a huge win.. forget 300+ yards.
Trestman variable and the Brandon Marshall/Alshon Jeffrey/Martellus Bennett variables. Yes, he crapped his pants badly, but it's 3 games, you're citing there. Pretty small sample sizeI'd say 250 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs is a fair guess for this one.
It's sadly the only sample size I get to work with him as a Bear, I admittedly was hoping for more. I guess you can point towards the McCown win last year and say "Trestman + weapons" variable is key but what I believe was truly key is that McCown didn't turn the ball over once in that game (272/2/0 and no fumbles). If Cutler wasn't giving off the "I can turn the ball over at any second" vibe again this year I'd feel more confident in him turning it around. Not to pick on you or anything, but the mere fact that your "fair guess" still has Cutler turning the ball over twice speaks volumes. As someone stated, this is a fantasy forum so I guess it doesn't mean much but CHI isn't winning with that line from Cutler IMO.
I wouldn't bet on the Bears to win, but I'd bet on Cutler to put up top 12 fantasy QB numbers, which he's done every game except against Miami. Dolphins are pretty legit on D, Packers are not.
:towelwave:
ok larry, if I win, you're not allowed to post on these boards for the rest of the season. You make a post worth reading about as often as Cutler smiles.
Gitcher likes up, brah

 
Fantasy wise, I think Cutler throws for 300 yards and at least 2TDS in catch-up ball. As much grief as Trestman takes from the media and fans, the guys knows his stuff. I envision Cutler will come on the rest of the season much like the cases of New England and the Steelers when everybody got down on them.

 
ryno1980 said:
SameSongNDance said:
ryno1980 said:
SameSongNDance said:
Granted, the Trestman variable isn't a constant but just check Cutler's stats when playing @GB..

2009 - 227/1/4

2010 - 168/0/2

2011 - DNP

2012 - 126/1/4

2013 - DNP

The last time CHI went to Lambeau and won was actually last year with McCown. Before that? 2007 with I believe Orton. Cutler has been on CHI since 2009. Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is, if Cutler simply doesn't turn the ball over I'll consider that a huge win.. forget 300+ yards.
Trestman variable and the Brandon Marshall/Alshon Jeffrey/Martellus Bennett variables. Yes, he crapped his pants badly, but it's 3 games, you're citing there. Pretty small sample sizeI'd say 250 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs is a fair guess for this one.
It's sadly the only sample size I get to work with him as a Bear, I admittedly was hoping for more. I guess you can point towards the McCown win last year and say "Trestman + weapons" variable is key but what I believe was truly key is that McCown didn't turn the ball over once in that game (272/2/0 and no fumbles). If Cutler wasn't giving off the "I can turn the ball over at any second" vibe again this year I'd feel more confident in him turning it around. Not to pick on you or anything, but the mere fact that your "fair guess" still has Cutler turning the ball over twice speaks volumes. As someone stated, this is a fantasy forum so I guess it doesn't mean much but CHI isn't winning with that line from Cutler IMO.
I wouldn't bet on the Bears to win, but I'd bet on Cutler to put up top 12 fantasy QB numbers, which he's done every game except against Miami. Dolphins are pretty legit on D, Packers are not.
:towelwave:
ok larry, if I win, you're not allowed to post on these boards for the rest of the season. You make a post worth reading about as often as Cutler smiles.
Gitcher likes up, brah
Posts like this make my point for me. thanks brah

 
Rotoworld:

In ten meetings with Packers DC Dom Capers' defense since becoming a Bear, Jay Cutler has combined to complete 164-of-295 throws (55.6 percent) for 2,000 yards (6.78 YPA) with 12 touchdowns and 20 interceptions.

Although the numbers have improved slightly since Marc Trestman took over as Bears coach, it's an alarming trend in such a big sample size, and particularly worrisome as Cutler heads to Lambeau for a road game with weather concerns. Bears-Packers has a lofty 53.5-point over-under -- so perhaps a shootout is in store -- but Green Bay's fantasy defense is worth a look if you need a Week 10 streamer. Find more stats and analysis like this in Evan Silva's fantasy football Matchups column, accessible at the link below.

Source: Silva's Week 10 Matchups
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/49837/179/matchups

 
Watching this game, I don't know how any QB could have success behind that o line the way that they are playing. Cutler is getting pressured on every snap he barely has time to throw or let routes develop. I think the outcome is more a function their terrible defense and o line than cutler sucking.

 
Watching this game, I don't know how any QB could have success behind that o line the way that they are playing. Cutler is getting pressured on every snap he barely has time to throw or let routes develop. I think the outcome is more a function their terrible defense and o line than cutler sucking.
dude..
 
Watching this game, I don't know how any QB could have success behind that o line the way that they are playing. Cutler is getting pressured on every snap he barely has time to throw or let routes develop. I think the outcome is more a function their terrible defense and o line than cutler sucking.
dude..
Admittedly I've only watched the 2nd half. But what I've seen is almost every play he has they rid of the ball immediately or he gets slaughtered. What am I missing?

 
Watching this game, I don't know how any QB could have success behind that o line the way that they are playing. Cutler is getting pressured on every snap he barely has time to throw or let routes develop. I think the outcome is more a function their terrible defense and o line than cutler sucking.
dude..
Admittedly I've only watched the 2nd half. But what I've seen is almost every play he has they rid of the ball immediately or he gets slaughtered. What am I missing?
YOU MISSED THE FIRST HALF!!!
 

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