How much better will the Browns be this year? (1 Viewer)

[gildawg]

I'm at a point where I need to see one of our teams win a title before I get excited. Coming within 2 outs of winning your first civic title in 40 years and then having your heart ripped out will do that to you. The theme of these Browns seems to be catarophic injuries across the board, so I'm assuming whoever is our first round pick will be lucky to play one game before going on IR.

BGP,Remember that there is a whole new line of thinking with this team. Nothing is the same as it was last year or the year before. When Butch took control he slowly put his people in and moved others out, this year, everything is new and fresh. Busniess people doing the business side and football people doing the football side, kinda like a real NFL franchise. while I don't think they sniff the playoffs this year, I do expect the Browns to be improved over last year and pull some upsets and play spoiler near the end of the season. But I'll only be happy about that for one season.

 

[amnesiac]

Just saw a mock that had a CB being taken at #4. Any chance the Browns grab a corner with their pick, or work a trade that lets them move down a couple spots? I think moving down a few spots seems a little more likely than getting someone to trade up from the middle.

 

[The_Hunchback]

You poor poor Browns fans who really think they will improve much this year.  I am glad the Browns fans are finally excited, just not sure why you think it will all happen this year.  Savage and Crenell will get the ship righted but it will take at least 2 years to reach the 500 mark.  The team will draft better and make better decisions but there is just to much to overcome and be competitive in one year.  Sorry guys but face reality and leave your homerisms out of it.

Funny this post was asking if the Browns would be improved. They finished 4-12 and I see a 6-10 record next year. But as a Browns fan, I would not be happy with a 6-10 record the following year. You said nothing in your post that most people on here haven't said already. Being three years removed from a playoff appearance and seemingly moving back into that driection in two to three years, I'll take a 5 year absense from the playoffs over a 7, 8 or 14 year absense like some teams in the NFL.

Oh my bad. Here ya go then - they will improve from a coaching standpoint. Will they win 5 games? Maybe but I would doubt it to be very honest. There are so many ways you can say a team has improved, your take and my take on that might be completely different. BTW for whoever asked if I was a Patriots fan, no I am not. Unfortunately I am a Chiefs fan. You want my take on them I will give, but I will be honest and open with it and not have homerism in it at all (if anything I am more critical of them than any other team).

 

[gildawg]

You poor poor Browns fans who really think they will improve much this year. I am glad the Browns fans are finally excited, just not sure why you think it will all happen this year. Savage and Crenell will get the ship righted but it will take at least 2 years to reach the 500 mark. The team will draft better and make better decisions but there is just to much to overcome and be competitive in one year. Sorry guys but face reality and leave your homerisms out of it.

Funny this post was asking if the Browns would be improved. They finished 4-12 and I see a 6-10 record next year. But as a Browns fan, I would not be happy with a 6-10 record the following year. You said nothing in your post that most people on here haven't said already. Being three years removed from a playoff appearance and seemingly moving back into that driection in two to three years, I'll take a 5 year absense from the playoffs over a 7, 8 or 14 year absense like some teams in the NFL.

Oh my bad. Here ya go then - they will improve from a coaching standpoint. Will they win 5 games? Maybe but I would doubt it to be very honest. There are so many ways you can say a team has improved, your take and my take on that might be completely different. BTW for whoever asked if I was a Patriots fan, no I am not. Unfortunately I am a Chiefs fan. You want my take on them I will give, but I will be honest and open with it and not have homerism in it at all (if anything I am more critical of them than any other team).

Oh I see, if I think my favorite team will win two more games than last year, I'm a homer. I'm sorry I'm having a problem seeing the homerisms in my posts. Point them out to me. I think they will be improved but not very good. They can be improved without seeing the playoffs. I also think the Lions will be better next year, but does that make me a homer for the Lions? No.

 

[Fallerjw]

Just saw a mock that had a CB being taken at #4. Any chance the Browns grab a corner with their pick, or work a trade that lets them move down a couple spots? I think moving down a few spots seems a little more likely than getting someone to trade up from the middle.

At this point I wouldn't rule out any of the following:QB - Smith, Rodgers

RB - Brown

WR - Edwards, Williams

OL - Barron (more probable if they move down)

DE/LB - Johnson, Merriman

CB - Jones, Rolle

 

[wadegarrett]

Browns tidibts from 3/22...

Savage did not sound enthusiastic about taking a running back with the third overall pick of the first round of next month's draft. Ironically, the personal workouts of Auburn's highly-rated tandem of Ronnie Brown and Cornell (Cadillac) Williams were held on Monday. The Browns were represented there by Bill Rees, player personnel director, and Rip Scherer, quarterbacks coach. Scherer was on hand to observe the workout of quarterback Jason Campbell, who is garnering much interest from the Browns.Savage said the loss of Taylor doesn't force the Browns to use a high pick on a back. "It certainly is a position we'll have to continue to try and address" he said. "I think after our next series of meetings on April 4, we'll have a better handle on that first pick and also what are the combinations of players as we go through Rounds 1, 2 and 3 . . . what combination of those guys works best for who we take at No. 3."

Sounds like the Browns may be looking for a QB in Round 2 or 3. IMO, they still go Defense with the #3 pick.

 

[Gargoylez]

When you have that many injuries, the vast majority of the time you have a losing record. Period.

To twist it around to say that if you have lots of injuries and can't win you therefore aren't good is just dumb.

Comparing Butch Davis and Bill Cowher? Butch had 4 years, three of them were injury-plagued. Even though I think Butch Davis has a strong case to make that his record was beyond his control, I still firmly believe it was time for Butch Davis to go because 4 years was enough. Bill Cowher should have also been fired years ago.

Whaa whaa whaa is right.Butch Davis was the bottom 5 of coaches PERIOD. He couldn't make a personell decision to save his life. Heck, Errict Rhett sued him and the Browns because he was doing some illegal personell moves.

Butch isnt a pimple on Crenell's ####.

As far as injuries, then I suggest getting a better training manager or something. You would think after 3 years of (boo hoo hoo hoo) injuries you might want to look at that part of the coaching staff to improve. Never said the Browns organization was smart.

Needless to say the Browns best off season move, heck their best FRANCHISE move so far is firing Butch and then the next best is hiring Crenell. Now the talent on the Browns will have a fighting chance.

Injury is not an excuse for losing... ask the Patriots.

 

[amnesiac]

Sounds like the Browns may be looking for a QB in Round 2 or 3. IMO, they still go Defense with the #3 pick.

I'm crossing my fingers that they do.

 

[Fallerjw]

This is looking better and better every day. Got rid of: BrownWarrenEkubanMyersHolcombGriffithGot:StewartBaxterColemanAndruzziRichardsonDilferDroughnsand now maybe Douglas

 

[wadegarrett]

Love seeing stuff like this too...

The Dayton Daily News reports that the Cardinals are looking to move up in the draft to snatch a running back and may be interested in Cleveland's No. 3 overall pick. Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams, both from Auburn, are two players slated to be available to the Cards in that slot.

 

[Fallerjw]

Love seeing stuff like this too...

The Dayton Daily News reports that the Cardinals are looking to move up in the draft to snatch a running back and may be interested in Cleveland's No. 3 overall pick. Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams, both from Auburn, are two players slated to be available to the Cards in that slot.

My ideal scenario involves trading down 2 times in the first round, picking around #10 -15, while picking up some extra 2nd and 3rd rounders.

 

[wadegarrett]

Was just invited to a private gathering at Cleveland Browns Stadium on April 25th to discuss the NFL Draft with Phil Savage!

 

[Fallerjw]

Was just invited to a private gathering at Cleveland Browns Stadium on April 25th to discuss the NFL Draft with Phil Savage!

Don't have an extra pass do you? Enjoy