How much of a bump for McGahee. (1 Viewer)

[Mash]

I said if he could get 80-90 total yards and a TD. If I had to project, I'd saying there is better than a 75% chance of that happening, which is one of the reasons I am starting him this week.

I was going to say "if" anyone posts those numbers they are a good play. You think 75% chance McGahee is top10 this week? "IF" feels more like 25%, I would say 75% is more like "good bet".

Good luck, I didn't realize so many people needed him to do well this week.

Denver was in that game for a while and Moreno was struggling at times running the football, they didn't really push McGahee into a situation where he could help thane the game over. 4 carries for 3 yards...I just think Denver's OL has a lot of problems right now. "IF" McGahee catches another 5-6 balls, I think you probably have a good flex option but I'll bet the under based on past performance.

Again, GL Mash.

Thanks -- I'm in a 16 team league and he is going into my flex spot, if you care.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I said if he could get 80-90 total yards and a TD. If I had to project, I'd saying there is better than a 75% chance of that happening, which is one of the reasons I am starting him this week.

I was going to say "if" anyone posts those numbers they are a good play. You think 75% chance McGahee is top10 this week? "IF" feels more like 25%, I would say 75% is more like "good bet".

Good luck, I didn't realize so many people needed him to do well this week.

Denver was in that game for a while and Moreno was struggling at times running the football, they didn't really push McGahee into a situation where he could help thane the game over. 4 carries for 3 yards...I just think Denver's OL has a lot of problems right now. "IF" McGahee catches another 5-6 balls, I think you probably have a good flex option but I'll bet the under based on past performance.

Again, GL Mash.

Thanks -- I'm in a 16 team league and he is going into my flex spot, if you care.

So we're talking 40-48 deep now at the RB spot...yeah that makes a difference. Just out of curiosity what are your options?

 

[Wadsworth]

You roll out Jamal Charles, Reggie bush, and Willis McGahee, and you go up against Ray Rice, DMC, and Peyton Hillis, you are way behind the 8 ball IMHO.

This whole I play in a 12 team league and players in the 25-30 slots are valuable is hogwash. If your striving for mediocrity then fine or if you want to talk theory it might make some sense but it doesn't roll out like that on Sundays.

Maybe you don't like the 12-team excuse, but unfortunately not everyone plays in 8-team leagues with noobs so it is something you are going to have to accept.That trio you rolled out does not compute for even a 10-team league.

Player/ADP: Rice/4, DMC/15, Hillis/26

So if you want to talk about things that don't roll out on Sundays, your trio is a great example.

OddibeMcD is right. Dumb post.

I have Ray Rice, DMC, and Hillis in a 12 team league, went RB-RB-RB to start from the 4 spot, posted that roster up in another thread. Those ADP numbers don't go verbatim in every league.

It's a handful of players that make all the difference, I post that often in the SP. 8 team, 10 team, 12 team, it's studs that win and if you gotta go McGahee in week 2, I think something went wrong on draft day. How many starting RBs were injured last week? Foster was out but most knew about it ahead of time...Moreno I guess but was he an RB2 to begin with?

We can have differing opinions but I would hate to be shooting for 25-30 range with one of my starting RBs from here on out.

There also seems to be a major crossing of redraft and dynasty in this thread.

But let's move on, let's see some projections. What are people anticipating this week from a bottom tier offense?

I have Gore, MJD, and Steven Jackson in a RB flex league. I also have Dez Bryant and Steve Johnson. Jackson is out or might as well be if he is a GTD on Monday night and Dez Bryant looks like a GTD. It's not like my RBs are weak. I didn't draft McGahee as my flex starter. I might consider going with another WR in the flex if Dez can play but he is a 4pm start on Sunday so that make that even more complicated. Like I said before, starting McGahee this week doesn't mean you are doing something wrong with your team building. Sometimes things happen, you choose your best option.

 

[Mash]

I said if he could get 80-90 total yards and a TD. If I had to project, I'd saying there is better than a 75% chance of that happening, which is one of the reasons I am starting him this week.

I was going to say "if" anyone posts those numbers they are a good play. You think 75% chance McGahee is top10 this week? "IF" feels more like 25%, I would say 75% is more like "good bet".

Good luck, I didn't realize so many people needed him to do well this week.

Denver was in that game for a while and Moreno was struggling at times running the football, they didn't really push McGahee into a situation where he could help thane the game over. 4 carries for 3 yards...I just think Denver's OL has a lot of problems right now. "IF" McGahee catches another 5-6 balls, I think you probably have a good flex option but I'll bet the under based on past performance.

Again, GL Mash.

Thanks -- I'm in a 16 team league and he is going into my flex spot, if you care.

So we're talking 40-48 deep now at the RB spot...yeah that makes a difference. Just out of curiosity what are your options?

Jacobs/Meachem/McGahee - might be making a mistake going with the least popular of the three choices, but sometimes you have to roll with your gut.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I said if he could get 80-90 total yards and a TD. If I had to project, I'd saying there is better than a 75% chance of that happening, which is one of the reasons I am starting him this week.

I was going to say "if" anyone posts those numbers they are a good play. You think 75% chance McGahee is top10 this week? "IF" feels more like 25%, I would say 75% is more like "good bet".

Good luck, I didn't realize so many people needed him to do well this week.

Denver was in that game for a while and Moreno was struggling at times running the football, they didn't really push McGahee into a situation where he could help thane the game over. 4 carries for 3 yards...I just think Denver's OL has a lot of problems right now. "IF" McGahee catches another 5-6 balls, I think you probably have a good flex option but I'll bet the under based on past performance.

Again, GL Mash.

Thanks -- I'm in a 16 team league and he is going into my flex spot, if you care.

So we're talking 40-48 deep now at the RB spot...yeah that makes a difference. Just out of curiosity what are your options?

Jacobs/Meachem/McGahee - might be making a mistake going with the least popular of the three choices, but sometimes you have to roll with your gut.

PM on the way

 

[footballnerd]

Wow no love for McGahee. He was a solid RB in BAL, not sure about how good DEN rush game is yet, but McGahee himself would produce in BAL offense if Rice was out, and was the go to TD guy.

 

[mdlane]

Dumb post is dumb.

It's not a dumb post at all. What's dumb are people posting their dynasty rosters because majority of the time they are fixed and are not going to change so either the posts are whining because the owners are stuck having to make a weak play or are trying to pump themselves up because they know it's a bad play.

I do wish their was a dynasty only forum where we could separate this because it's two totally different conversations. And furthermore once you start calling names and posting this type of crap in the SP you automatically lose the debate.

Have a great weekend and good luck

It is not a dumb post, but it is an irrelevant one. This isn't ESPN - we know that Rice/DMAC/Hillis are better options than McGahee, who, in your words, is RB25 this week. You don't have to go all Matthew Berry on us.

The question is whether the RB25 is more valuable in the flex spot this week than a lower-ranked RB, like Ingram, or a WR12-20 like Santonio Holmes. I don't think people made a horrible mistake drafting Holmes as a WR2/3 over someone like Brandon Jacobs, but that doesn't mean Holmes shouldn't take the bench this week for McGahee in the flex.

 

[FF Ninja]

You roll out Jamal Charles, Reggie bush, and Willis McGahee, and you go up against Ray Rice, DMC, and Peyton Hillis, you are way behind the 8 ball IMHO.

This whole I play in a 12 team league and players in the 25-30 slots are valuable is hogwash. If your striving for mediocrity then fine or if you want to talk theory it might make some sense but it doesn't roll out like that on Sundays.

Maybe you don't like the 12-team excuse, but unfortunately not everyone plays in 8-team leagues with noobs so it is something you are going to have to accept.That trio you rolled out does not compute for even a 10-team league.

Player/ADP: Rice/4, DMC/15, Hillis/26

So if you want to talk about things that don't roll out on Sundays, your trio is a great example.

OddibeMcD is right. Dumb post.

I have Ray Rice, DMC, and Hillis in a 12 team league, went RB-RB-RB to start from the 4 spot, posted that roster up in another thread. Those ADP numbers don't go verbatim in every league.

It's a handful of players that make all the difference, I post that often in the SP. 8 team, 10 team, 12 team, it's studs that win and if you gotta go McGahee in week 2, I think something went wrong on draft day. How many starting RBs were injured last week? Foster was out but most knew about it ahead of time...Moreno I guess but was he an RB2 to begin with?

We can have differing opinions but I would hate to be shooting for 25-30 range with one of my starting RBs from here on out.

There also seems to be a major crossing of redraft and dynasty in this thread.

But let's move on, let's see some projections. What are people anticipating this week from a bottom tier offense?

I'm aware that drafts don't look exactly like an ADP list, but one of two factors must occur for DMC and Hillis to slip... you are either in a league with scoring that is beneficial to non-RB positions or the other owners' competence must be called into question. Either way, it took a perfect storm for you to land those guys, so to come in here and beat your chest is a bit childish and pointless. I feel very confident in saying that the vast majority of us would not be thinking about playing McGahee if we were in that league.Moving on as requested... I'm not going to lie, I've got McGahee so I figured I'd come in here and see some other people's perspectives since Collie, Ocho, and Jacobs don't appear to be great week 2 flex options after week 1's performances. Personally, I expected Cincy's D to be pretty solid this year and they did bottle up Hillis pretty well. I will be very surprised if Willis puts up over 60 yards rushing. Although, I do think he's got a great chance to put up 5 receptions. The fact you later brought up that he hadn't caught 5 balls in many years is totally irrelevant. He was in a different situation. Denver/Orton is clearly down to utilize his more than adequate pass catching skills. If he sees the field for the majority of offensive snaps, he could easily post 18/55 and 5/30 with about a 30% chance of a TD. Maybe even more rushes if Cincy's offense is totally inept. Is he an exciting play? No. Is he a safe play if Moreno is out? It sure appears that way. I'd say there is a 95% chance he posts more than 5 pts, which I can't say for Collie, Ocho, or Jacobs.

Most peole are not looking to win their matchups with McGahee. Just trying to fill a perceived hole or squeeze an extra few points out of a flex during a brief window in which a RBBC guy is going to be THE guy for one week. Maybe some of us are overreacting to week 1. Either way, not a long term solution. No need to get on a soap box.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

I said if he could get 80-90 total yards and a TD. If I had to project, I'd saying there is better than a 75% chance of that happening, which is one of the reasons I am starting him this week.

I was going to say "if" anyone posts those numbers they are a good play. You think 75% chance McGahee is top10 this week? "IF" feels more like 25%, I would say 75% is more like "good bet".

Good luck, I didn't realize so many people needed him to do well this week.

Denver was in that game for a while and Moreno was struggling at times running the football, they didn't really push McGahee into a situation where he could help thane the game over. 4 carries for 3 yards...I just think Denver's OL has a lot of problems right now. "IF" McGahee catches another 5-6 balls, I think you probably have a good flex option but I'll bet the under based on past performance.

Again, GL Mash.

Orton is going to have to get the ball to somebody and I can see McGahee getting a lot of dumpoffs. In PPR that's gold even if he ends up with an 20 for 40 yard rushing performance.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

What do you like about a horrible runner who plays in a horrible rushing offense? Enlighten me as I need some motivation to start the bum myself.

He's the goal line RB, he'll get 80% of the touches and catches. He's not a horrible runner and 1 game doesn't make the Denvers OL season.He averaged 5.7 a carry in the pre-season ...... which doesn't tell me he washed up.

I'm starting him - you do what you want

No he didn't, he was under 3ypc. He's an awful runner at this stage in his career, that really can't be debated, but he likely will get a lot of touches so you're probably righ he's a good play this week.

Yeah, you read the wrong column at NFL.com Einstein. He averaged 5.7 Rushing Attempts Per Game *(17/3). He gained 48 yards, a whopping 2.8 YPC.

Entertaining stuff, guys.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

I am probably starting him this week at flex due to SJax being out. I would be starting him over Steve Smith (Car), and Robert Meachem, both of whom were given a ton of consideration. Non PPR. I am starting him because out of the 3, I believe he gives me the best shot at a TD. I believe he has a higher floor than my other options, and if I can get 8-14 from him the rest of my team will provide the high ceiling plays to balance out the roster. Right or wrong, that is the logic that I have convinced myself to consider.

That said, I also think that out of the 3 he clearly has the lowest ceiling. As has been pointed out, he is not a dynamic player anymore (never REALLY was in the NFL), and he plays on a bad offense. But, when your backfield mates are Lance Ball and Jeremiah Johnson straight off the practice squad, there is reason to believe that the important carries will go to him, and with the Cinci D being one you like to face, the potential for a TD is decent this week.

I dont feel nearly as good about the play this week as others in here do, but I like the idea of having a team's clear starting RB against a defense that we expect to be weak this season.

ETA - I just checked the FBG rankings for this week's flex spot to see what their opinion was. Without giving up too much subscriber info, they had him at 42. When you look at a 12 team league with presumably 6 total spots per roster that these players qualify for (2RB, 3WR, 1 Flex), the list of guys that have to start every week goes 72 deep. Even if you think 42 is too high for McGahee, it seems pretty clear that he is a very viable option in leagues with these roster requirements this week.

 

[valence]

I kinda like Jeremiah Johnson as a preemptive pickup today in case he gets significant work tomorrow.

 

[Wadsworth]

I kinda like Jeremiah Johnson as a preemptive pickup today in case he gets significant work tomorrow.

I'm considering the same move. If I can free up a roster spot he'll get a 2 day try out for my squad.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

So does that mean Bronco fans will be clamoring for TWO 3rd string players (Jesus / Johnson) to see the field this Sunday?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I kinda like Jeremiah Johnson as a preemptive pickup today in case he gets significant work tomorrow.

I'm considering the same move. If I can free up a roster spot he'll get a 2 day try out for my squad.

When Houston was thumbing thru back up RBs he was in the mix for a couple weeks and then I think he was injured and finally released. I like what I saw and since we are all fussy with McGahee/Moreno, it would lead one to think that a 3rd RB could come on in here and take over. We always see a player come from nowhere and Denver is a prime spot right now since they are so in flux. McGahee is not going to be a lead dog in 2012, they may overturn the RBs entirely so yes I am totally on board with this thinking, maybe the best 2 posts in the whole thread between the both of you.

 

[Bobtender]

I kinda like Jeremiah Johnson as a preemptive pickup today in case he gets significant work tomorrow.

I'm considering the same move. If I can free up a roster spot he'll get a 2 day try out for my squad.

When Houston was thumbing thru back up RBs he was in the mix for a couple weeks and then I think he was injured and finally released. I like what I saw and since we are all fussy with McGahee/Moreno, it would lead one to think that a 3rd RB could come on in here and take over. We always see a player come from nowhere and Denver is a prime spot right now since they are so in flux. McGahee is not going to be a lead dog in 2012, they may overturn the RBs entirely so yes I am totally on board with this thinking, maybe the best 2 posts in the whole thread between the both of you.

Don't know much about him but wouldn't Lance Bell be the pick up. he's still ahead of JJ

 

[Wadsworth]

I kinda like Jeremiah Johnson as a preemptive pickup today in case he gets significant work tomorrow.

I'm considering the same move. If I can free up a roster spot he'll get a 2 day try out for my squad.

When Houston was thumbing thru back up RBs he was in the mix for a couple weeks and then I think he was injured and finally released. I like what I saw and since we are all fussy with McGahee/Moreno, it would lead one to think that a 3rd RB could come on in here and take over. We always see a player come from nowhere and Denver is a prime spot right now since they are so in flux. McGahee is not going to be a lead dog in 2012, they may overturn the RBs entirely so yes I am totally on board with this thinking, maybe the best 2 posts in the whole thread between the both of you.

Don't know much about him but wouldn't Lance Bell be the pick up. he's still ahead of JJ

Lance Ball might be the better pick up for this week if Moreno is out. Picking up JJ is more a swing for the fences move. It's an unsettle RB situation in Denver with a new coach who isn't married to any of these RBs. If JJ could come in and blow up he could have a lot of value overnight. My understanding is that Ball is more of a situational back and JJ could, potentially be a lead back. It's not a move I'd recommend unless you have a free roster spot and can afford to take the risk. In all likelihood if I pick up JJ I'll be cutting him tomorrow night. It's a short term investment, low risk with potentially high reward.

 

[Deaddawg]

I think the JJ addition was just for depth reasons and his opportunities will be limited. I think they know what they have in McGahee and he will see about 70-80% of the touches with Ball the rest. I think the long shot play is Ball. I picked him up in my auction league. If he can do something with his touches today, he may make a statement for more playing time. Moreno just does not have what it takes mentally to play in the NFL.

 

[FLY IGGLES FLY]

I sure wish I could get the trade value for McGahee that FGBs value forward suggests. I think I'm going to send out trade offers to all the guys I know use FGBs.

Footguy Balls? Are you referencing Rex Ryan's genitals?

 

[OddibeMcD]

Moreno is still questionable. Anyone else think he may be declared active or does the activation of JJ negate any possibility of that? I hope that you have another decent 4:15 option in case McGahee ends up in a 30% scenario again.

 

[wbaaoz]

Obviously McGahee is more valuable with Moreno out. However, with my league's scoring, he still put up 5.5 points last week which was greater than Ingram (whom I'm debating to start over him). I don't think McGahee is horrible either way.

 

[teamramrod]

Starting Sproles over him as my RB2, but we also get return points.

Peace

 

[OddibeMcD]

So far so good McGahee fans. Without getting greedy, I'm hoping for more.

 

[OddibeMcD]

100 and a touch. Not a great YPC, but he showed consistency and that he can take 20+ carries and not turn the ball over. If Moreno is out again, can McGahee repeat? Even if Moreno is back, has McGahee pushed him to the lesser role in a RBBC?

 

[mdlane]

I kinda like Jeremiah Johnson as a preemptive pickup today in case he gets significant work tomorrow.

I'm considering the same move. If I can free up a roster spot he'll get a 2 day try out for my squad.

When Houston was thumbing thru back up RBs he was in the mix for a couple weeks and then I think he was injured and finally released. I like what I saw and since we are all fussy with McGahee/Moreno, it would lead one to think that a 3rd RB could come on in here and take over. We always see a player come from nowhere and Denver is a prime spot right now since they are so in flux. McGahee is not going to be a lead dog in 2012, they may overturn the RBs entirely so yes I am totally on board with this thinking, maybe the best 2 posts in the whole thread between the both of you.

Actually, I thought the thread was generally valuable until you started to repeatedly tell us how great your RB stable is in one of your leagues.McGahee ended up with over 100 combined yards and a TD. I hope there is a lesson in humility somewhere here for you. Because in Fantasy Football you cannot overlook an RB with a one-week golden opportunity. If Moreno is out next week, I don't see why McGahee shouldn't sit in a flex spot again for a lot of teams.