how would you handle this situation? (1 Viewer)

[elitzer]

heres what i have.i am commisioner.we have a lineup of 2 wr 2 rb and 1 flex rb/wr.

team A started felix jones as a rb/wr flex spot.so that position was locked in.At 11:30 am sunday morning he picked up damarius thomas and said he couldn't take out helu out of rb spot and put in thomas as a wr/rb flex position due to that spot was already taken by felix.so he informed league and me that he would want to put felix in as his rb position instead of flex position.then take helu out of rb position to bench and start thomas as his flex position.

the question i have for you guys out there is how should this be handled? should i allow this even thou he had felix in as a flex spot.if he had felix in as just a rb we would not be having this conversation.or just hes out of luck and has to keep helu in his starting lineup and the player thomas he picked up will have to stay on his bench.sorry so long guys.

just a 11 point difference in ppr standings and can make team A win this week instead of loosing.

 

[HAM]

Once a player is locked in, end of story. My 2 cents

 

[Goldalene]

Once a player is locked in, end of story. My 2 cents

+1

 

[footballnerd]

he should of planned ahead if he was considering pulling helu. his fault, not yours. leave it

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

should i allow thisi

Yes. He's allowed to start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, or 3 RBs and 2 WRs. The fact that Felix was the one of the five locked in as a flex should be irrelevant; that's just a limitation of the website, for which he shouldn't be punished.

 

[Prinefan]

It looks like there's a rule causing players to be locked. You're asking if you (as commish) should overturn a rule to accomodate an owner's change of mind? I don't think so. That's why there are rules.

 

[elitzer]

should i allow thisi

Yes. He's allowed to start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, or 3 RBs and 2 WRs. The fact that Felix was the one of the five locked in as a flex should be irrelevant; that's just a limitation of the website, for which he shouldn't be punished.

thats the way i kinda see it too.it is just a technicality that our site would not let you change it.he did put it up on our message board to inform all of us at least 1/2 hour before kickoff

 

[Sea Duck]

should i allow thisi

Yes. He's allowed to start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, or 3 RBs and 2 WRs. The fact that Felix was the one of the five locked in as a flex should be irrelevant; that's just a limitation of the website, for which he shouldn't be punished.

This never would have been an issue in the pre-internet era.

 

[GregR]

should i allow thisi

Yes. He's allowed to start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, or 3 RBs and 2 WRs. The fact that Felix was the one of the five locked in as a flex should be irrelevant; that's just a limitation of the website, for which he shouldn't be punished.

Agreed. There are times a commissioner may need to go with "We'll stick with what the website is capable of." But I don't see anything gained by this being such a situation.It's bad site design if a flex is considered as a separate position which is neither of the positions allowed there. Somewhere like MFL would just lock the individual player as in or out, but as long as your lineup as a whole doesn't violate the settings you can change anyone else.

 

[Sea Duck]

It looks like there's a rule causing players to be locked. You're asking if you (as commish) should overturn a rule to accomodate an owner's change of mind? I don't think so. That's why there are rules.

It's not a rule, it's a website limitation. A different website would have allowed it.

 

[elitzer]

should i allow thisi

Yes. He's allowed to start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, or 3 RBs and 2 WRs. The fact that Felix was the one of the five locked in as a flex should be irrelevant; that's just a limitation of the website, for which he shouldn't be punished.

This never would have been an issue in the pre-internet era.

correct if this was done not on a site it would have been changed as soon as he informed us due to we can start any 2 rbs and 3 wrs or any 3rbs and 2 wrs

 

[GregR]

To make an analogy, this is like having a league that allows future year draft picks, but your website doesn't have an option for it.

Are you going to refuse to allow a trade involving them because of the site? No, what they are trying is entirely reasonable and within your rules, so you'd work around the site limitation, keep track of them, and go move the draft picks to the right teams next year.

Same exact concept at work here. Just make it clear anyone wishing to do this needs to let the league know as this owner did so there is no debate whether their move made it in on time.

 

[footballnerd]

you are changing a playoff result because of this, i'd just leave it. good players plan ahead and put jones at rb if they are iffy about helu, not your job to even the playing field for the mediocre ones.

 

[No Way Jose]

Can't believe people would actually reverse this. The player is locked in, I don't see what the confusion is.

 

[elitzer]

To make an analogy, this is like having a league that allows future year draft picks, but your website doesn't have an option for it.jAre you going to refuse to allow a trade involving them because of the site? No, what they are trying is entirely reasonable and within your rules, so you'd work around the site limitation, keep track of them, and go move the draft picks to the right teams next year.Same exact concept at work here. Just make it clear anyone wishing to do this needs to let the league know as this owner did so there is no debate whether their move made it in on time.

i agree .that due to limitations on cbs sports does not allow this i should due to he informed the entire league what he was doing.

 

[elitzer]

Can't believe people would actually reverse this. The player is locked in, I don't see what the confusion is.

felix was locked in as a rb/wr but helu was not locked in nor were any of there other players at time of his league posting.so if the site was set up different as if it were set up as footballguys championship league lineup he would have been able to make changes no problem.he did not want to remove a player that already played to bench he just wanted to set position as rb instead of rb/wr

 

[footballnerd]

Can't believe people would actually reverse this. The player is locked in, I don't see what the confusion is.

felix was locked in as a rb/wr but helu was not locked in nor were any of there other players at time of his league posting.so if the site was set up different as if it were set up as footballguys championship league lineup he would have been able to make changes no problem.he did not want to remove a player that already played to bench he just wanted to set position as rb instead of rb/wr

is that how you're going to explain it to his opponent? like to hear his reaction. I'd prob quit for that bs.besides this is not a CBS defect, yahoo has the same set up for flex, its locked after the game starts. its the style of the site.

 

[FUBAR]

Can't believe people would actually reverse this. The player is locked in, I don't see what the confusion is.

felix was locked in as a rb/wr but helu was not locked in nor were any of there other players at time of his league posting.so if the site was set up different as if it were set up as footballguys championship league lineup he would have been able to make changes no problem.he did not want to remove a player that already played to bench he just wanted to set position as rb instead of rb/wr

is that how you're going to explain it to his opponent? like to hear his reaction. I'd prob quit for that bs.besides this is not a CBS defect, yahoo has the same set up for flex, its locked after the game starts. its the style of the site.

It's pretty easy to explain it to his opponent. League rules trump website limitations. (that is assuming the league rules are clear on starting requirements and this would follow them)

 

[elitzer]

Can't believe people would actually reverse this. The player is locked in, I don't see what the confusion is.

felix was locked in as a rb/wr but helu was not locked in nor were any of there other players at time of his league posting.so if the site was set up different as if it were set up as footballguys championship league lineup he would have been able to make changes no problem.he did not want to remove a player that already played to bench he just wanted to set position as rb instead of rb/wr

is that how you're going to explain it to his opponent? like to hear his reaction. I'd prob quit for that bs.besides this is not a CBS defect, yahoo has the same set up for flex, its locked after the game starts. its the style of the site.

It's pretty easy to explain it to his opponent. League rules trump website limitations. (that is assuming the league rules are clear on starting requirements and this would follow them)

also his opponent also received the message as all other players of his intensions.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I'd prob quit for that bs.

This would likely be the best outcome for all involved.

 

[footballnerd]

I'd prob quit for that bs.

This would likely be the best outcome for all involved.

you wouldn't quit my league though if you knew at the beginning of the season that the site runs things unless the commish says otherwise.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I'd prob quit for that bs.

This would likely be the best outcome for all involved.

you wouldn't quit my league though if you knew at the beginning of the season that the site runs things unless the commish says otherwise.

Still beating that idiotic dead horse?

 

[jon_mx]

heres what i have.i am commisioner.we have a lineup of 2 wr 2 rb and 1 flex rb/wr.team A started felix jones as a rb/wr flex spot.so that position was locked in.At 11:30 am sunday morning he picked up damarius thomas and said he couldn't take out helu out of rb spot and put in thomas as a wr/rb flex position due to that spot was already taken by felix.so he informed league and me that he would want to put felix in as his rb position instead of flex position.then take helu out of rb position to bench and start thomas as his flex position.the question i have for you guys out there is how should this be handled? should i allow this even thou he had felix in as a flex spot.if he had felix in as just a rb we would not be having this conversation.or just hes out of luck and has to keep helu in his starting lineup and the player thomas he picked up will have to stay on his bench.sorry so long guys.just a 11 point difference in ppr standings and can make team A win this week instead of loosing.

This is why you save your flex spot for the later games. Not too many people think about it, but save the flex spot for your player playing the latest game, that gives you more flexibility to sub later.

 

[footballnerd]

This is why you save your flex spot for the later games. Not too many people think about it, but save the flex spot for your player playing the latest game, that gives you more flexibility to sub later.

exactly, thank you. savvy players plan ahead.

 

[footballnerd]

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[hamster_13]

I don't know of any sites that allow you to rearrange player spots after their game starts. He knows how it works. Don't change it.

 

[No Way Jose]

Can't believe people would actually reverse this. The player is locked in, I don't see what the confusion is.

felix was locked in as a rb/wr but helu was not locked in nor were any of there other players at time of his league posting.so if the site was set up different as if it were set up as footballguys championship league lineup he would have been able to make changes no problem.he did not want to remove a player that already played to bench he just wanted to set position as rb instead of rb/wr

But it's not. As far as I know.

 

[Godsbrother]

should i allow thisi

Yes. He's allowed to start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, or 3 RBs and 2 WRs. The fact that Felix was the one of the five locked in as a flex should be irrelevant; that's just a limitation of the website, for which he shouldn't be punished.

Despite using CBS our league does not consider FLEX a position, it is merely a means to play an extra RB or WR. Since the guy emailed the entire the league beforehand I would reverse it.

 

[loose circuits]

common sense says reverse it. League rules say start 2 wr 2 rb and 1 flex rb/wr and that is what he was doing...

 

[Val Rannous]

should i allow thisi

Yes. He's allowed to start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, or 3 RBs and 2 WRs. The fact that Felix was the one of the five locked in as a flex should be irrelevant; that's just a limitation of the website, for which he shouldn't be punished.

Despite using CBS our league does not consider FLEX a position, it is merely a means to play an extra RB or WR. Since the guy emailed the entire the league beforehand I would reverse it.

CBS does allow you to set minimum and maximum players. This is how Our league is set there - in this case you'd set it for 2-3 WR and 2-3 RB, everything stays legal.

 

[elitzer]

should i allow thisi

Yes. He's allowed to start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, or 3 RBs and 2 WRs. The fact that Felix was the one of the five locked in as a flex should be irrelevant; that's just a limitation of the website, for which he shouldn't be punished.

Despite using CBS our league does not consider FLEX a position, it is merely a means to play an extra RB or WR. Since the guy emailed the entire the league beforehand I would reverse it.

CBS does allow you to set minimum and maximum players. This is how Our league is set there - in this case you'd set it for 2-3 WR and 2-3 RB, everything stays legal.

i wish ours was set up like that.next year it will be

 

[Jersey35]

should i allow thisi

Yes. He's allowed to start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, or 3 RBs and 2 WRs. The fact that Felix was the one of the five locked in as a flex should be irrelevant; that's just a limitation of the website, for which he shouldn't be punished.

 

[Fightin Donkey]

I'd prob quit for that bs.

This would likely be the best outcome for all involved.

you wouldn't quit my league though if you knew at the beginning of the season that the site runs things unless the commish says otherwise.

 

[Fightin Donkey]

should i allow thisi

Yes. He's allowed to start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, or 3 RBs and 2 WRs. The fact that Felix was the one of the five locked in as a flex should be irrelevant; that's just a limitation of the website, for which he shouldn't be punished.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

should i allow thisi

Yes. He's allowed to start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, or 3 RBs and 2 WRs. The fact that Felix was the one of the five locked in as a flex should be irrelevant; that's just a limitation of the website, for which he shouldn't be punished.

This. But this decision needed to be made before 1:00 either way. How you are 'weighing it' now is baffling.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Can't believe people would actually reverse this. The player is locked in, I don't see what the confusion is.

felix was locked in as a rb/wr but helu was not locked in nor were any of there other players at time of his league posting.so if the site was set up different as if it were set up as footballguys championship league lineup he would have been able to make changes no problem.he did not want to remove a player that already played to bench he just wanted to set position as rb instead of rb/wr

is that how you're going to explain it to his opponent? like to hear his reaction. I'd prob quit for that bs.besides this is not a CBS defect, yahoo has the same set up for flex, its locked after the game starts. its the style of the site.

really? Though making the call now and not immediately (at least prekickoff) makes it one that you'll be yelled at either way.

 

[elitzer]

Can't believe people would actually reverse this. The player is locked in, I don't see what the confusion is.

felix was locked in as a rb/wr but helu was not locked in nor were any of there other players at time of his league posting.so if the site was set up different as if it were set up as footballguys championship league lineup he would have been able to make changes no problem.he did not want to remove a player that already played to bench he just wanted to set position as rb instead of rb/wr

is that how you're going to explain it to his opponent? like to hear his reaction. I'd prob quit for that bs.besides this is not a CBS defect, yahoo has the same set up for flex, its locked after the game starts. its the style of the site.

really? Though making the call now and not immediately (at least prekickoff) makes it one that you'll be yelled at either way.

i actually informed him at 11:52am that i couldnt change it.but then when i got home and i checked my messages as helu was worth 11 points less he was alittle upset.i have talked to some other players in my league and they think i should leave it as is .the majority thinks that way in my league so i am going to leave it as is.next year we will change it and also everyone will pay more attention to there lineups.what blows is that it is going to be a $1000 difference for him now.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

RB/WR spot was filled.

Deal with it.

 

[netnalp]

should i allow thisi

Yes. He's allowed to start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, or 3 RBs and 2 WRs. The fact that Felix was the one of the five locked in as a flex should be irrelevant; that's just a limitation of the website, for which he shouldn't be punished.

This never would have been an issue in the pre-internet era.

I agree.It seems the problem is caused due to an error in the league not being set up the way the league wishes or due to a software limitation. Teams may not have been aware that this would be an issue. Especially if it isn't along established league. Sometimes loopholes in the rules or issues with software are noticed till something occurs that brings awareness to the issue.

 

[Manster]

heres what i have.i am commisioner.we have a lineup of 2 wr 2 rb and 1 flex rb/wr.team A started felix jones as a rb/wr flex spot.so that position was locked in.At 11:30 am sunday morning he picked up damarius thomas and said he couldn't take out helu out of rb spot and put in thomas as a wr/rb flex position due to that spot was already taken by felix.so he informed league and me that he would want to put felix in as his rb position instead of flex position.then take helu out of rb position to bench and start thomas as his flex position.the question i have for you guys out there is how should this be handled? should i allow this even thou he had felix in as a flex spot.if he had felix in as just a rb we would not be having this conversation.or just hes out of luck and has to keep helu in his starting lineup and the player thomas he picked up will have to stay on his bench.sorry so long guys.just a 11 point difference in ppr standings and can make team A win this week instead of loosing.

First of all, IMHO, waivers should end for the week as the first NFL game starts. To each his own.No way you can change it, especially if it changes the outcome of a matchup. You'll have anarchy.IMHO, this was poor planning on this guys part. The bottomline is, once a players game has started, its locked in, no if, ands, or buts. Simple, and fair. You have to draw the line somewhere. If you change this, you open up a can of worms that could create more problems for you as commish, in the future.

 

[Sea Duck]

RB/WR spot was filled. Deal with it.

His league doesn't have a RB/WR spot.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

RB/WR spot was filled.

Deal with it.

His league doesn't have a RB/WR spot.

team A started felix jones as a rb/wr flex spot.so [u[that position was locked in.

 

[Sea Duck]

RB/WR spot was filled.

Deal with it.

His league doesn't have a RB/WR spot.

team A started felix jones as a rb/wr flex spot.so [u[that position was locked in.

My job isn't to teach you the ins and outs of the English language.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

RB/WR spot was filled. Deal with it.

His league doesn't have a RB/WR spot.

That's the whole point of the OP's thread. Owner should have prepared better with Felix to allow for more flexibility today. Poor owners do this. They don't deserve to win.

 

[jonboltz]

Another topic where common sense should have caused this never to have happened. Commish should make the obvious change.

 

[FUBAR]

Can't believe people would actually reverse this. The player is locked in, I don't see what the confusion is.

felix was locked in as a rb/wr but helu was not locked in nor were any of there other players at time of his league posting.so if the site was set up different as if it were set up as footballguys championship league lineup he would have been able to make changes no problem.he did not want to remove a player that already played to bench he just wanted to set position as rb instead of rb/wr

is that how you're going to explain it to his opponent? like to hear his reaction. I'd prob quit for that bs.besides this is not a CBS defect, yahoo has the same set up for flex, its locked after the game starts. its the style of the site.

really? Though making the call now and not immediately (at least prekickoff) makes it one that you'll be yelled at either way.

i actually informed him at 11:52am that i couldnt change it.but then when i got home and i checked my messages as helu was worth 11 points less he was alittle upset.i have talked to some other players in my league and they think i should leave it as is .the majority thinks that way in my league so i am going to leave it as is.next year we will change it and also everyone will pay more attention to there lineups.what blows is that it is going to be a $1000 difference for him now.

This is one of those times when what the majority thinks doesn't matter.If the rules state as your OP does "2 wr 2 rb and 1 flex rb/wr." then he chose Felix to be his flex and you keep it as is.

If the rules state "2 RB and 3 WR or 3 RB and 2 WR", then you make the change.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Its weird that you're debating this NOW, rather than before the games started. You should have just made a decision and gone with it then. Now people will be pissed no matter how you explain it.

One of my dynasty leagues is on Flea Flicker. One Sunday, the site was malfunctioning on my phone and wouldn't update my lineup. Wouldn't let me sub out my K on a bye with the K I had clearly JUST picked up in FA, obviously to start.

I immediately went to the league message board, posted my issue and the lineup I wanted, and the commish edited my lineup/the score later. No one threw a fit, as they shouldn't have, despite the fact that I won because of it--Olindo Mare had a big game, compared to the zero that was technically "locked" into my lineup.

 

[shadyridr]

What site do you use? MFL allows the user to do that. I dont see why he wouldnt be allowed to change his flex. Makes no sense to me.

 

[shadyridr]

should i allow thisi

Yes. He's allowed to start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, or 3 RBs and 2 WRs. The fact that Felix was the one of the five locked in as a flex should be irrelevant; that's just a limitation of the website, for which he shouldn't be punished.

 

[shadyridr]

I don't know of any sites that allow you to rearrange player spots after their game starts. He knows how it works. Don't change it.

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