I see (feel, smell, sense, etc.) dead people... (1 Viewer)

[Copeman]

I was a senior in HS, and a bunch of us used to hang out at one of my buddies place all the time.Anyways, we hung out with this girl who was all into witchcraft and the like, and she brought over this ouija board. We were all very skeptical, but I tried it with her. It was just me and her, and we both put our hands on that thing that slides across the board to spell things out. Well, she started a chant or saying of some kind regarding spirits etc...., and she had her face pointed up and her eyes were closed. I was watching the board and this thing was going crazy. I wasn't moving it, and I knew she wasn't moving it because it was going over the letters spelling things out. Again, her eyes were totally shut, her face looking up, and I certainly wasn't moving it. We contacted an 8 year old boy from Atlanta who recently died. He was telling us (spelling it out) about everything from his family to school, and it was just really freaky. I took my hands off it and the girl screamed at me and told me to not do that or the spirit would be trapped forever, and she then told me to put my hands back on it and she said something else (again a chant or something) that was meant to basically say goodbye to this soul. I got up and said #### this freaky ####. She was mad, but it made me a believer in this kind of thing i.e. ghosts/lost souls. Freaky stuff.I watched her the whole time and her eyes were closed, and again....I certainly wasn't moving it.

Was it made by Milton Bradley or Parker Brothers? I need to know which one signed the devil to a contract.

It was hand crafted back in the late 1800's by a relative of the lady that got her into that stuff. It was really cool looking. Had marble and wood in it, and she said it would cost a fortune. Me and my buddies used to always mock her jokingly about that stuff, so one night she came over with it and showed us it. That is when this all happened. The little hand thing was really intricate with the carvings it had.Nothing to do with that, but something else that was kind of freaky/interesting:A few weeks later late at night we went to this deserted drive in theatre and in the old refreshment part building, there were those stars drawn on the ground (I forget the name of them, those evil ones or whatever 6 points maybe?). Anyways, all around the room there were heads of deer lying around. Lots of that odd kind of stuff back then. I guess there were cults or something. Funny aside, on the way there in our car, the song "Highway to Hell" by AC/DC came on. Was funny at the time.....

Did you just get the SciFi Channel in your area?

That was the point. The whole thing that night seemed like one big cheesy "B" rated horror/sci-fi flick. That's what made it so funny. Thanks for picking up on that.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Because he's cuckoo for cocoa puffs. It's either "happening" or it isn't, there's no middle ground. Personally, I am not a believer of such activities, but if there was irrefutable evidence, over and over again, I'd probably get the **** out of there. Moving to a different location should "In Theory" isolate the craziness to the house or to you.

Let me try and get my crazy brain around something here... 1. My oldest daughter has been petrified to be in certain areas of our home alone since we moved in six years ago...claiming "ghosts" in a part of the basement and dining room...only to quickly ask my wife and I "there's no such thing as ghosts, for real, right?!" The same spots in the house where I have seen/felt some of the strongest presences (and no gas leaks, no CO, etc, for all the haters/skeptics out there).2. My sister (in her 30s) and my two nieces woke up screaming one night after seeing two children in the third floor bedroom with them, then shortly after, a window opened on its own with such force that a pane of glass shattered. We had said nothing about any "extra roommates" to them before their stay, as we didn't want to make them nervous or freak them out.3. My youngest niece was awoken in our living room in the middle of the night by a girl in a dress with a ribbon in her hair...asking if she had "seen her Mama," only to have the girl vanish into thin air.4. A person with no ties to the home who claims certain "gifts" came in and, uninformed/unprovoked, described some of the IDENTICAL things (right down to names or exact locations in the home where activity is occurring) that I and others have been seeing/feeling/hearing over the past several years. She also gave names of people which I also had been given without any prior knowledge of the situation (no, not "John" or "Mary" either, lol).So...multiple people experiencing multiple, similar-yet-separate experiences in similar areas of the home. Also, no CO/radon/gas problems of any kind (believe me, we've checked). So, is your assessment then that my daughter, my sister, my two nieces, the "medium" friend of mine and I are all completely off our rockers?! Or if we're not crazy, what can be defined as irrefutable evidence? Multiple people experiencing similar things at different times (without being lead to expect it)...or something one can post on YouTube for people 1,000 miles away to cast their vote without any real knowledge of the situation, or experience in the actual space?

Kids pick up on your craziness. You're spooked by a spot, they're spooked by a spot. When she asks you if they're real, and you pause or give some weirdo answer, you're confirming her beliefs. Stop it.I call B.S. your sister has never heard you or your family mentioning any of this. I mean, c'mon. You'll tell all of us but not your family? Hogwash.

 

[datonn]

Kids pick up on your craziness. You're spooked by a spot, they're spooked by a spot. When she asks you if they're real, and you pause or give some weirdo answer, you're confirming her beliefs. Stop it.

I call B.S. your sister has never heard you or your family mentioning any of this. I mean, c'mon. You'll tell all of us but not your family? Hogwash.

Before it happened? No. After it happened? Sure. I talk with my sister on the phone maybe 7-8 times/year, and see her in person maybe 3-4 times/year. We aren't very close...or is believing that "hogwash" too?As for telling the FFA over talking to family and close friends about stuff, absolutely! I've posted things in the FFA that I would n-e-v-e-r, EVER talk about with family or close friends. Why? Because I can generally count on unbiased thoughts and feedback out of complete strangers better than I can people I actually know or will see "around the office," at church or at family reunions. All the FFA is is one big think-tank and confession booth...and for the occasional members who frequently have that "not so fresh feeling" in how they treat others in their postings (especially if alcohol or "other" is involved), who gives two-####s what they think?!

It's easier being completely and brutally honest with complete strangers than it is all the people you know who you have to hold a little bit back or sugar-coat a few things as to not hurt their feelings. Do other people disagree? At least that's how I look at the FFA.

 

[Parrothead]

BOO!!!

 

[datonn]

You wouldn't catch me messing around with a ouija board or conducting a seance...particularly in a residential space. About all I can say on that is not to open any doors that you do not know how (or are not capable) to close. Some of the people doing that stuff are like bulls running through a china shop! They do it for the hit/fix, without giving any regard to the negative side-effects.

What negative side effects?

Without getting into a long-winded discussion about it, basically turning on "beacons" or opening doors/portals that you can't (or don't know how to) turn off. I use the lighthouse or flashlight analogy with other people in describing this. If someone is lost out at sea and all of the sudden they see a light off in the distance, which way do you think they are going to row/swim? Similarly, if someone is out lost in the woods and they see what they think is the light of a flashlight bouncing around or the glow of a campfire, which way are they going to go?!For a lot of spirits (obviously only what I believe), they don't know they are dead or don't know where to go after they die to find peace. So they get "stuck" wandering around aimlessly until someone helps them. If they're lost and they see your "lighthouse" (Ouija board) or "flashlight" (seance) flickering over in the distance as a sign that you are open for business, which way do you think they are going to head?Skeptics will certainly call B.S. on what I just typed too. Heck, you could tell a skeptic the sky is blue and they will correctly point out that the sky can be black, gray, invisible/clear, etc., and that you are a dolt for suggesting that it is always blue! I don't care though. I'm just sharing my honest take on this stuff from all of my own experiences and what I've seen or been told from others who have had similar types of experiences and/or who have much stronger "gifts" or "radar" for some of this stuff than I do...

 

[Reg Lllama of Brixton]

You wouldn't catch me messing around with a ouija board or conducting a seance...particularly in a residential space. About all I can say on that is not to open any doors that you do not know how (or are not capable) to close. Some of the people doing that stuff are like bulls running through a china shop! They do it for the hit/fix, without giving any regard to the negative side-effects.

What negative side effects?

Skeptics will certainly call B.S. on what I just typed too. Heck, you could tell a skeptic the sky is blue and they will correctly point out that the sky can be black, gray, etc., and that you are a dolt for suggesting that it is always blue!

You're doing this wrong.

 

[sjacksonfan]

You wouldn't catch me messing around with a ouija board or conducting a seance...particularly in a residential space. About all I can say on that is not to open any doors that you do not know how (or are not capable) to close. Some of the people doing that stuff are like bulls running through a china shop! They do it for the hit/fix, without giving any regard to the negative side-effects.

What negative side effects?

Without getting into a long-winded discussion about it, basically turning on "beacons" or opening doors/portals that you can't (or don't know how to) turn off. I use the lighthouse or flashlight analogy with other people in describing this. If someone is lost out at sea and all of the sudden they see a light off in the distance, which way do you think they are going to row/swim? Similarly, if someone is out lost in the woods and they see what they think is the light of a flashlight bouncing around or the glow of a campfire, which way are they going to go?!For a lot of spirits (obviously only what I believe), they don't know they are dead or don't know where to go after they die to find peace. So they get "stuck" wandering around aimlessly until someone helps them. If they're lost and they see your "lighthouse" (Ouija board) or "flashlight" (seance) flickering over in the distance as a sign that you are open for business, which way do you think they are going to head?Skeptics will certainly call B.S. on what I just typed too. Heck, you could tell a skeptic the sky is blue and they will correctly point out that the sky can be black, gray, invisible/clear, etc., and that you are a dolt for suggesting that it is always blue! I don't care though. I'm just sharing my honest take on this stuff from all of my own experiences and what I've seen or been told from others who have had similar types of experiences and/or who have much stronger "gifts" or "radar" for some of this stuff than I do...

Just knowing that you believe stuff like this kind of undercuts all the stories of your "encounters".

 

[AnonymousBob]

datonn,

Do you consider yourself to be a skeptic?

 

[T Bell]

And now a word from Ed Glosser, trivial psychic.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Reserving comment

 

[T Bell]

Reserving comment

Hey, pal, we don't take reservations here. This is walk-up only.

 

[TommyGilmore]

And now a word from Ed Glosser, trivial psychic.

Always enjoyed that one.

 

[datonn]

Just knowing that you believe stuff like this kind of undercuts all the stories of your "encounters".

Just for grins, HOW does theorizing about stuff like that undercut stories of my "encounters?" Just curious. You can not believe my stories or you can think that my theories on some of that stuff is a load of crap, that's fine! Me speculating on the impacts of things such as Ouija boards and seances and me having first-hand experiences with things I haven't been able to rationalize or explain away seem like mutually exclusive things to me. I'm just saying you won't catch me allowing a seance or having folks using Ouija boards within 100 yards of my home, that's all. Our home is active enough as it is...

 

[Bob Wiley]

You wouldn't catch me messing around with a ouija board or conducting a seance...particularly in a residential space. About all I can say on that is not to open any doors that you do not know how (or are not capable) to close. Some of the people doing that stuff are like bulls running through a china shop! They do it for the hit/fix, without giving any regard to the negative side-effects.

Just to play Devil's Advocate, and I am legitimately fascinated by this topic, but aren't Ouija Boards made by Parker Brothers?

 

[comfortably numb]

Do they have access to your PC, cause that would explain some of the horrible trade offers I get from you

 

[blackjack23]

You wouldn't catch me messing around with a ouija board or conducting a seance...particularly in a residential space. About all I can say on that is not to open any doors that you do not know how (or are not capable) to close. Some of the people doing that stuff are like bulls running through a china shop! They do it for the hit/fix, without giving any regard to the negative side-effects.

Just to play Devil's Advocate, and I am legitimately fascinated by this topic, but aren't Ouija Boards made by Parker Brothers?

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...&p=10245174

 

[Das Boot]

You wouldn't catch me messing around with a ouija board or conducting a seance...particularly in a residential space. About all I can say on that is not to open any doors that you do not know how (or are not capable) to close. Some of the people doing that stuff are like bulls running through a china shop! They do it for the hit/fix, without giving any regard to the negative side-effects.

What negative side effects?

Without getting into a long-winded discussion about it, basically turning on "beacons" or opening doors/portals that you can't (or don't know how to) turn off. I use the lighthouse or flashlight analogy with other people in describing this. If someone is lost out at sea and all of the sudden they see a light off in the distance, which way do you think they are going to row/swim? Similarly, if someone is out lost in the woods and they see what they think is the light of a flashlight bouncing around or the glow of a campfire, which way are they going to go?!For a lot of spirits (obviously only what I believe), they don't know they are dead or don't know where to go after they die to find peace. So they get "stuck" wandering around aimlessly until someone helps them. If they're lost and they see your "lighthouse" (Ouija board) or "flashlight" (seance) flickering over in the distance as a sign that you are open for business, which way do you think they are going to head?Skeptics will certainly call B.S. on what I just typed too. Heck, you could tell a skeptic the sky is blue and they will correctly point out that the sky can be black, gray, invisible/clear, etc., and that you are a dolt for suggesting that it is always blue! I don't care though. I'm just sharing my honest take on this stuff from all of my own experiences and what I've seen or been told from others who have had similar types of experiences and/or who have much stronger "gifts" or "radar" for some of this stuff than I do...

Interesting take on the beacon analogy, and thanks for sharing your stories.I have just really minor ones, nothing to compare to all the ones in this thread.What I don't get is why some spirits seem to be a little slow in figuring out how to cross over properly.I'm being a bit facetious, but I'm really open to all possibilities about this kind of stuff.... there's a hell of a lot more we don't know or understand than what we do.It just seems that a very small % of spirits end up sticking around and causing shenanigans.

 

[T Bell]

You wouldn't catch me messing around with a ouija board or conducting a seance...particularly in a residential space. About all I can say on that is not to open any doors that you do not know how (or are not capable) to close. Some of the people doing that stuff are like bulls running through a china shop! They do it for the hit/fix, without giving any regard to the negative side-effects.

Just to play Devil's Advocate, and I am legitimately fascinated by this topic, but aren't Ouija Boards made by Parker Brothers?

Yeah, but all of the brothers are dead.

 

[datonn]

datonn,

Do you consider yourself to be a skeptic?

When it comes to people's reporting of supernatural experiences, yes. I am skeptical of much of what you see/hear reported out there related to the supernatural...because way too many people hear something bump in the night and immediately leap to the assumption "GHOST" because being alone and/or being in the dark scares them and gets them in the right/wrong frame of mind. Never mind that the cat just bumped a plant stand, or a radiator pipe went "bang," or somebody shut a car door outside at the neighbor's house that sounded strangely like a "thud" in the room next door. As to whether there ARE things such as ghosts, angels, demons, God, etc.? Absolutely not a skeptic. I am a firm believer. That little voice inside of me has felt God around me and in creation since I was a small child, and I've had more than enough personal experiences with ghosts or the occasional demon to not have any lingering doubts about those things being true.

It's kind of like me believing in the lunar landing(s). I've been told it happened, I've also seen reports from lots of people saying it was faked. However, I've never actually seen with my own eyes (in person, obviously, or on television) the little marker that they planted on the moon's surface to help measure the distance of the moon from the Earth (what they use to know that the moon is very slowly moving further and further away from our planet). I believe with all my heart that it's there and that WE were there, however...even though I've never seen any video footage of it in a documentary or on YouTube...

 

[Bob Wiley]

You wouldn't catch me messing around with a ouija board or conducting a seance...particularly in a residential space. About all I can say on that is not to open any doors that you do not know how (or are not capable) to close. Some of the people doing that stuff are like bulls running through a china shop! They do it for the hit/fix, without giving any regard to the negative side-effects.

Just to play Devil's Advocate, and I am legitimately fascinated by this topic, but aren't Ouija Boards made by Parker Brothers?

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...&p=10245174

What can I say? Great minds think alike. But what I was getting at is, can people who really believe in this stuff use a kids toy to "contact" the dead, or does the board have to be special in some way?

 

[QUEZILLA]

2. For 2-3 years after college, I would have lots of "Highlander" (the movie) moments...where I would be going about my business alone or with friends walking downtown or at a mall or ???, when all of the sudden things would go into a sort of slow-motion, my hearing would become super-sensitive and my attention would immediately be placed upon some "thing" in human form that was evil (the only way I can think to describe it). "It" would always be staring directly at me with kind of this blank stare or kind of a sly smirk. Didn't matter whether "it" was in front of me, behind me, to the side, 10 feet away, 200 feet away, etc. That experience would happen, and I would immediately focus my eyes/attention on whatever "it" was.

Can you explain this a little better please. So it was just a person who you sensed as evil? Anything set them apart from other people, like dress, who they were with? Or, were they just a normal person that you got a very eerie feeling from?

3. Driving home one night after hanging out with friends (I-494 in the SE Metro of the Minneapolis area), I was the only car on the road for several hundred yards in front or behind me. No off/on ramps. I'm checking my rear-view mirrors often though...as I'm probably doing 72 in a 60 MPH zone and can't afford a speeding ticket. Anyway, out of nowhere these round headlights appear about five feet off my bumper. It was light enough with street lights where you could see quite a ways in front or behind you even without headlights, so I was very startled to see someone sneak up on me like that. That car stayed on me for a quarter-mile or so, then did a hard-swerve into the lane on my right and pulled even with me. His window was down, and the driver looked like Marilyn Manson, only bigger...like 250-260+ pounds of muscle weight. On the side of the driver's door was written the words "The Beast." He just stayed along side of my for probably a half-mile...staring at me. I tried only quick glances, as I was afraid this guy might have been high on ________ and try and shoot me or something, but it really freaked me out (how he looked). Then, he braked, shifted back into my lane behind me, and rode 5-6 feet off my bumper again for a good quarter-mile. No on/off ramps, a well-lit highway, and me looking in my rear-view mirror every second or two. Then all of the sudden, he was gone without a trace.

Just out of curiosity what kind of car was it, and what font were the words in? I'm picturing something like this, with "The Beast" written in flames.Oh, and do you ever feel weird when you masturbate. I would have a hard time getting off thinking I have 30 spirits, including little kids, passing through my crib.

 

[T Bell]

3. Driving home one night after hanging out with friends (I-494 in the SE Metro of the Minneapolis area), I was the only car on the road for several hundred yards in front or behind me. No off/on ramps. I'm checking my rear-view mirrors often though...as I'm probably doing 72 in a 60 MPH zone and can't afford a speeding ticket. Anyway, out of nowhere these round headlights appear about five feet off my bumper. It was light enough with street lights where you could see quite a ways in front or behind you even without headlights, so I was very startled to see someone sneak up on me like that. That car stayed on me for a quarter-mile or so, then did a hard-swerve into the lane on my right and pulled even with me. His window was down, and the driver looked like Marilyn Manson, only bigger...like 250-260+ pounds of muscle weight. On the side of the driver's door was written the words "The Beast." He just stayed along side of my for probably a half-mile...staring at me. I tried only quick glances, as I was afraid this guy might have been high on ________ and try and shoot me or something, but it really freaked me out (how he looked). Then, he braked, shifted back into my lane behind me, and rode 5-6 feet off my bumper again for a good quarter-mile. No on/off ramps, a well-lit highway, and me looking in my rear-view mirror every second or two. Then all of the sudden, he was gone without a trace.

Just out of curiosity what kind of car was it, and what font were the words in? I'm picturing something like this, with "The Beast" written in flames.Oh, and do you ever feel weird when you masturbate. I would have a hard time getting off thinking I have 30 spirits, including little kids, passing through my crib.

It was more like this.

 

[boots11234]

I was a senior in HS, and a bunch of us used to hang out at one of my buddies place all the time.Anyways, we hung out with this girl who was all into witchcraft and the like, and she brought over this ouija board. We were all very skeptical, but I tried it with her. It was just me and her, and we both put our hands on that thing that slides across the board to spell things out. Well, she started a chant or saying of some kind regarding spirits etc...., and she had her face pointed up and her eyes were closed. I was watching the board and this thing was going crazy. I wasn't moving it, and I knew she wasn't moving it because it was going over the letters spelling things out. Again, her eyes were totally shut, her face looking up, and I certainly wasn't moving it. We contacted an 8 year old boy from Atlanta who recently died. He was telling us (spelling it out) about everything from his family to school, and it was just really freaky. I took my hands off it and the girl screamed at me and told me to not do that or the spirit would be trapped forever, and she then told me to put my hands back on it and she said something else (again a chant or something) that was meant to basically say goodbye to this soul. I got up and said #### this freaky ####. She was mad, but it made me a believer in this kind of thing i.e. ghosts/lost souls. Freaky stuff.I watched her the whole time and her eyes were closed, and again....I certainly wasn't moving it.

Was it made by Milton Bradley or Parker Brothers? I need to know which one signed the devil to a contract.

It was hand crafted back in the late 1800's by a relative of the lady that got her into that stuff. It was really cool looking. Had marble and wood in it, and she said it would cost a fortune. Me and my buddies used to always mock her jokingly about that stuff, so one night she came over with it and showed us it. That is when this all happened. The little hand thing was really intricate with the carvings it had.Nothing to do with that, but something else that was kind of freaky/interesting:A few weeks later late at night we went to this deserted drive in theatre and in the old refreshment part building, there were those stars drawn on the ground (I forget the name of them, those evil ones or whatever 6 points maybe?). Anyways, all around the room there were heads of deer lying around. Lots of that odd kind of stuff back then. I guess there were cults or something. Funny aside, on the way there in our car, the song "Highway to Hell" by AC/DC came on. Was funny at the time.....

Did you just get the SciFi Channel in your area?

 

[datonn]

immediately be placed upon some "thing" in human form that was evil

Can you explain this a little better please. So it was just a person who you sensed as evil? Anything set them apart from other people, like dress, who they were with? Or, were they just a normal person that you got a very eerie feeling from?

It was a strong, almost magnetic feeling towards some-THING evil, in human form. My feeling/impression though was that it was NOT human...but rather was taking on human form in order to "blend" in its surroundings. Ever get that feeling you're not alone in a room, then you turn and see that somebody else is in there and you weren't aware that they were there? Take that feeling and multiply it times about fifty. Then add a powerful sense/feeling of evil, and have them with a cold, dead stare and smirk...looking right at/through you as if you two were the only two in that crowded shopping mall or on that crowded sidewalk.

On the side of the driver's door was written the words "The Beast."

Just out of curiosity what kind of car was it, and what font were the words in? I'm picturing something like this, with "The Beast" written in flames.

Actually, I think it was probably more like a Mercury Marauder S55 Fastback, though I honestly wasn't paying close attention to the make/model of the car...just how strange it was behaving and what I saw behind the wheel. The words looked hand-painted...no identifiable font to speak of.

 

[Jutz]

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ETA... once I was looking at a dead snake... and it tried to bite me...

 

[AnonymousBob]

datonn,Do you consider yourself to be a skeptic?

 

[sjacksonfan]

datonn> there is a clinical name for what you have experienced. It's called "wacky tobacky". You're out of your ####### mind, dude. Ouija is a board game.

 

[PatsWillWin]

It's kind of like me believing in the lunar landing(s). I've been told it happened, I've also seen reports from lots of people saying it was faked. However, I've never actually seen with my own eyes (in person, obviously, or on television) the little marker that they planted on the moon's surface to help measure the distance of the moon from the Earth (what they use to know that the moon is very slowly moving further and further away from our planet). I believe with all my heart that it's there and that WE were there, however...even though I've never seen any video footage of it in a documentary or on YouTube...

I find it shocking that you do not possess the tools to differentiate between the moon landings and ghosts.

 

[QUEZILLA]

datonn> there is a clinical name for what you have experienced. It's called "wacky tobacky". You're out of your ####### mind, dude. Ouija is a board game.

I don't see ghost, and smoke "wacky tobacky" on the reg like Kenny Powers. Hell, I've never even seen crap like daton has talked about when I was on shrooms.

 

[Steve Tasker]

You wouldn't catch me messing around with a ouija board or conducting a seance...particularly in a residential space. About all I can say on that is not to open any doors that you do not know how (or are not capable) to close. Some of the people doing that stuff are like bulls running through a china shop! They do it for the hit/fix, without giving any regard to the negative side-effects.

What negative side effects?

Without getting into a long-winded discussion about it, basically turning on "beacons" or opening doors/portals that you can't (or don't know how to) turn off. I use the lighthouse or flashlight analogy with other people in describing this. If someone is lost out at sea and all of the sudden they see a light off in the distance, which way do you think they are going to row/swim? Similarly, if someone is out lost in the woods and they see what they think is the light of a flashlight bouncing around or the glow of a campfire, which way are they going to go?!For a lot of spirits (obviously only what I believe), they don't know they are dead or don't know where to go after they die to find peace. So they get "stuck" wandering around aimlessly until someone helps them. If they're lost and they see your "lighthouse" (Ouija board) or "flashlight" (seance) flickering over in the distance as a sign that you are open for business, which way do you think they are going to head?Skeptics will certainly call B.S. on what I just typed too. Heck, you could tell a skeptic the sky is blue and they will correctly point out that the sky can be black, gray, invisible/clear, etc., and that you are a dolt for suggesting that it is always blue! :( I don't care though. I'm just sharing my honest take on this stuff from all of my own experiences and what I've seen or been told from others who have had similar types of experiences and/or who have much stronger "gifts" or "radar" for some of this stuff than I do...

Just knowing that you believe stuff like this kind of undercuts all the stories of your "encounters".

To be honest.... I take it Datonn isn't of the belief that mediums are a complete crock of ####.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Just knowing that you believe stuff like this kind of undercuts all the stories of your "encounters".

Just for grins, HOW does theorizing about stuff like that undercut stories of my "encounters?" Just curious. You can not believe my stories or you can think that my theories on some of that stuff is a load of crap, that's fine! Me speculating on the impacts of things such as Ouija boards and seances and me having first-hand experiences with things I haven't been able to rationalize or explain away seem like mutually exclusive things to me. I'm just saying you won't catch me allowing a seance or having folks using Ouija boards within 100 yards of my home, that's all. Our home is active enough as it is...

I'll address this as to how I see it. You've told us some fascinating, unexplainable stories. You've also told us that you're good friends with a medium and that you believe in not opening up beacons to the spirit world.I'm not sure where you got these beliefs from, but trust me, mediums are just going to tell you what you want to hear. I've seen mediums, I've told them my "ghost stories" and I've heard them all tell me I have a great "aura" and that I'm "in tune with the spirit world". (It was hard to not burst out laughing)

The fact of the matter is that mediums are good at making people feel happy. Be honest, if some team of paranormal investigators were to come over and find nothing and then tell you your house isn't haunted, you'd be a little upset right? You'd think "well, he didn't have the same experiences, he's wrong" or "he came on a bad night". But if you have someone like a medium tell you your place is definitely haunted and a beacon for spiritual activity, it makes you feel pretty good, right? "She feels the same thing I do, so she knows that something's going on here".

The fact that you believe in all of this undercuts your stories because it makes you seem like you're looking to pick and choose solutions that fit what you want to believe. You WANT to believe your house is haunted. You WANT to believe that you're "in tune with the spirit world".

My grandmother is a medium. She tells me stories once every few months about how she sees her dead husband (my grandfather died in 1993) at the foot of her bed, in the other room, on the phone, etc. Do I believe that she believes she's communicating with him? Yes, I do. Do I believe that she's a nutjob and wants to communicate with him so badly that she misinterprets things as ghostly activity or communications from the "other realm"? Hell yes.

 

[T Bell]

Just knowing that you believe stuff like this kind of undercuts all the stories of your "encounters".

Just for grins, HOW does theorizing about stuff like that undercut stories of my "encounters?" Just curious. You can not believe my stories or you can think that my theories on some of that stuff is a load of crap, that's fine! Me speculating on the impacts of things such as Ouija boards and seances and me having first-hand experiences with things I haven't been able to rationalize or explain away seem like mutually exclusive things to me. I'm just saying you won't catch me allowing a seance or having folks using Ouija boards within 100 yards of my home, that's all. Our home is active enough as it is...

I'll address this as to how I see it. You've told us some fascinating, unexplainable stories. You've also told us that you're good friends with a medium and that you believe in not opening up beacons to the spirit world.I'm not sure where you got these beliefs from, but trust me, mediums are just going to tell you what you want to hear. I've seen mediums, I've told them my "ghost stories" and I've heard them all tell me I have a great "aura" and that I'm "in tune with the spirit world". (It was hard to not burst out laughing)

The fact of the matter is that mediums are good at making people feel happy. Be honest, if some team of paranormal investigators were to come over and find nothing and then tell you your house isn't haunted, you'd be a little upset right? You'd think "well, he didn't have the same experiences, he's wrong" or "he came on a bad night". But if you have someone like a medium tell you your place is definitely haunted and a beacon for spiritual activity, it makes you feel pretty good, right? "She feels the same thing I do, so she knows that something's going on here".

The fact that you believe in all of this undercuts your stories because it makes you seem like you're looking to pick and choose solutions that fit what you want to believe. You WANT to believe your house is haunted. You WANT to believe that you're "in tune with the spirit world".

My grandmother is a medium. She tells me stories once every few months about how she sees her dead husband (my grandfather died in 1993) at the foot of her bed, in the other room, on the phone, etc. Do I believe that she believes she's communicating with him? Yes, I do. Do I believe that she's a nutjob and wants to communicate with him so badly that she misinterprets things as ghostly activity or communications from the "other realm"? Hell yes.

YOUR GHOST! SHOW IT TO ME!!!! SHOW IT!!!!11

 

[krista4]

Here is a picture I took a few years ago looking into my closet.

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Little guy freaked me out.

 

[Brutis]

How'd I miss this ghost thread? Should I bring up "orbs" again.

 

[datonn]

I'll address this as to how I see it. You've told us some fascinating, unexplainable stories. You've also told us that you're good friends with a medium and that you believe in not opening up beacons to the spirit world.I'm not sure where you got these beliefs from, but trust me, mediums are just going to tell you what you want to hear. I've seen mediums, I've told them my "ghost stories" and I've heard them all tell me I have a great "aura" and that I'm "in tune with the spirit world". (It was hard to not burst out laughing)

Thanks for the honest and tactful response S.T.! Here's some additional "background color:"1. Where my beliefs come from. I've had a LOT of experiences throughout my entire life...not just related to what I believe to be ghosts or demons, but things that I can only classify as "other." Some real quick examples: - When I was seven, I used to play in the side of the yard by my parents house...and they had these two huge (1,000+ pound) landscaping rocks that were positioned about 20-22' apart. I remember clear as day standing on the rock closest to the house and thinking: "I can jump that...no problem!" Dumb kids stuff, right?! I then remember closing my eyes, and from a standing start, jumping and landing on my shins on the other rock. I remember my pants getting dirty, and the little bit of pain from landing on my shins instead of on my feet. A 1st/2nd grader...making a 20-22' jump from a standing start. After dusting myself off, I remember thinking "how the HECK did I do that?" and then spending the rest of the afternoon trying to do it again....only making it 7-8' even with a running start. - My maternal grandmother was a hard woman. Loving, yet very firm...and very racist, which embarrassed and bugged the CRAP out of me. Anyway, I never felt right in their house, and always felt an evil presence in the home...particularly at the top of their second floor stairs, between two bedrooms at the East end of a long hallway. After I started telling my mom about some of my strange/unexplainable experiences in my late 20s and 30s, she shared a story with me that has bothered me to this day. She said that she and her four sisters (then all adults in their 40s/50s) were talking with my grandmother as my grandfather was in the latter stages of dying from cancer. My aunts and mother were basically speaking with my grandmother about how to handle some of the affairs and the estate, when my grandmother became so angry/upset that she was yelling violently. What is interesting though is that as she reached the height of her anger, glass and light bulbs in several sections of the house (in multiple rooms) simultaneously cracked or shattered. My aunts dropped the subject, and my grandmother also passed away not too long after that experience. When my aunts went back to settle the estate and prepare the home for sale, they also felt a strong evil presence in the home...and none of them would stay in the house alone (the house they grew up in). All five women saw/heard things in that home as children and as adults that scared them (that they could not explain). However, none of them talked about their experiences until after I talked to my mom about my own experiences in that home as a child...then the floodgates opened after my mom shared my (and her) stories with her sisters.In a nutshell, my beliefs come out of my own experiences. I don't hear a radiator pipe bang, then think "GHOST!" and call up Mediums 'R Us on speed-dial to have them tell me "Hmm....I'm sensing the letter "M"...only to have me say "Yeah, I'll bet the woman I am sensing was a *M*other!" LOL. Honestly, you thinking that of me is more than a little insulting...though I know you don't mean to do that on purpose. Rather, my experiences and my beliefs have evolved out of 38 years of life experiences that I cannot explain. I tried for decades to explain away some of my experiences as an active imagination...as that would be the much easier, happier solution. However, there are dozens of experiences I have had that I cannot write-off or explain away. That is the stuff that is very intriguing (and unsettling) to me.Again though, skeptics are going to be skeptics until you can show them DNA or video footage that they shot with their own camera and knew wasn't edited/doctored or something. I don't blame them either. What makes me mad though is all the fake garbage people throw out there which makes skeptics even more skeptical. Like 98% of our U.S. soliders being top-shelf, only to have a handful of a##holes at Abu Ghraib have millions in the Middle East think that's what America/American soldiers are like...creating YEARS of problems and countless more fatalities as a result of their stupid, irresponsible behavior.

 

[datonn]

The fact of the matter is that mediums are good at making people feel happy. Be honest, if some team of paranormal investigators were to come over and find nothing and then tell you your house isn't haunted, you'd be a little upset right? You'd think "well, he didn't have the same experiences, he's wrong" or "he came on a bad night". But if you have someone like a medium tell you your place is definitely haunted and a beacon for spiritual activity, it makes you feel pretty good, right? "She feels the same thing I do, so she knows that something's going on here".

The fact that you believe in all of this undercuts your stories because it makes you seem like you're looking to pick and choose solutions that fit what you want to believe. You WANT to believe your house is haunted. You WANT to believe that you're "in tune with the spirit world".

On the bolded statement above, the only thing that made me feel good was that having my wife with us while she was describing some of what she (our medium friend) was seeing/feeling/sensing was nice...because I think my wife thought I was off my rocker prior to hearing it from someone else she knew had zero advance-knowledge of some of the specific experiences I was having. She's subsequently taken some of the specific names and information that I've been given or that my medium-friend shared...and lo and behold, she's found information in the local newspaper or city/county records that is, at minimum, highly curious/coincidental.Other than that, what would make me feel REALLY good is having a calm, quiet house where my wife and daughters aren't afraid to be in sections of the house alone...or where my oldest daughter wouldn't go around our dining room and shut every door so that she doesn't have to "see" people watching us while we're eating dinner...or that guests in our home wouldn't wake up screaming after seeing children in the room they are sleeping in.

Having someone else with zero prior knowledge of the home come in and say some of the same things that I've been seeing/feeling/hearing/sensing is a bit validating, sure. However, I would MUCH rather have a person come in to the home and say that we've got an ventilation or electrical problem that is easily-fixed that might have been causing people to hallucinate. If you choose to not take me on my word on that fact, thinking that I'd rather "live the dream" of having unsettling experiences that scare/confuse me so 99% of people can think I'm a complete nut-job, so be it.

 

[Mrs. BSR]

I think an FBG needs to spend the night at your house and report back what they experienced, if anything.

 

[T Bell]

I think an FBG needs to spend the night at your house and report back what they experienced, if anything.

"Well, there was a lot of moaning, and then I saw two milky white orbs, followed by a strange smell . . ."

 

[Reg Lllama of Brixton]

I think an FBG needs to spend the night at your house and report back what they experienced, if anything.

"Well, there was a lot of moaning, and then I saw two milky white orbs, followed by a strange smell . . ."

 

[Black Box]

Just this past weekend I was reffing a youth soccer game. It was 11am, and the weather was gorgeous: bright and sunny. Anyway, all of a sudden this ghost that looked like my recently deceased uncle ran (floated?) out onto the field and stole my yellow card.

It was nuts, but I thought of this thread and just had to share.

 

[Reg Lllama of Brixton]

Just this past weekend I was reffing a youth soccer game. It was 11am, and the weather was gorgeous: bright and sunny. Anyway, all of a sudden this ghost that looked like my recently deceased uncle ran (floated?) out onto the field and stole my yellow card.It was nuts, but I thought of this thread and just had to share.

SOLD!

 

[Steve Tasker]

The fact of the matter is that mediums are good at making people feel happy. Be honest, if some team of paranormal investigators were to come over and find nothing and then tell you your house isn't haunted, you'd be a little upset right? You'd think "well, he didn't have the same experiences, he's wrong" or "he came on a bad night". But if you have someone like a medium tell you your place is definitely haunted and a beacon for spiritual activity, it makes you feel pretty good, right? "She feels the same thing I do, so she knows that something's going on here".

The fact that you believe in all of this undercuts your stories because it makes you seem like you're looking to pick and choose solutions that fit what you want to believe. You WANT to believe your house is haunted. You WANT to believe that you're "in tune with the spirit world".

On the bolded statement above, the only thing that made me feel good was that having my wife with us while she was describing some of what she (our medium friend) was seeing/feeling/sensing was nice...because I think my wife thought I was off my rocker prior to hearing it from someone else she knew had zero advance-knowledge of some of the specific experiences I was having. She's subsequently taken some of the specific names and information that I've been given or that my medium-friend shared...and lo and behold, she's found information in the local newspaper or city/county records that is, at minimum, highly curious/coincidental.

Can you expound on these a bit? What feelings did she report having? What kinds of names?

 

[Parrothead]

I think an FBG needs to spend the night at your house and report back what they experienced, if anything.

"Well, there was a lot of moaning, and then I saw two milky white orbs, followed by a strange smell . . ."

mothballs?

 

[NoCheese]

This is SUPER freaky....but true.

I went to church with a friend of mine this weekend. He goes to a Catholic church. From the time I sat down, I saw this guy with this spooky looking white robe that was standing in front. Minutes later, he was gone! I saw him later standing (oddly enough, not floating) on the SAME stage behind a podium/lectern and he was speaking! Yikes! I know most people only see ghosts but rarely are they audible. I even snuck a picture just to prove I wasn't hallucinating (will post later). Some people told me it was a priest (?) but I'm not buying it. I wasn't born yesterday!

 

[datonn]

Can you expound on these a bit? What feelings did she report having? What kinds of names?

I'll try and keep it brief, but here it goes. As to feelings, most of it was more a combination of my feeling and her seeing. I told my wife what I was feeling before she came over, then she told us what she was feeling/seeing. An example: Ever since the first time we set foot in the home, there is one particular room in the home where I feel the constant need to work, remodel, etc. Again, checked for CO, radon, EMF, etc. and the tests come back clean. Anyway, I told my wife that I felt that chronic need to work, and that I also sensed an older man behind the wall. To which I'm sure she was thinking We got one brick out, and I used a combination of a flashlight and a mirror to check in the space to see what was there. I methodically checked that space out from top to bottom (as much as I could see, anyway), and saw nothing but dust, cobwebs and probably a couple bugs. I KNEW someone was there though...I just didn't know why. The space is probably only 6-7' deep by 8-9' wide, positioned behind a storage room, between two cisterns and beneath a bathroom.

My friend came in, without any information or knowledge of my feelings/experiences, and was immediately drawn to that space. She immediately asked me "What is behind that wall?," got closer, and then took a few steps back and said [paraphrasing] "I'm sensing an older man behind that wall who was a mason that was laying brick on the home. In fact, he's yelling at me right now...telling me to 'Get out of here!' I think he died while working on the home. He didn't die on the property, but had some type of a health issue while on the property that lead to his death. He doesn't know he is dead...so he's kept coming to work for the past 90+ years. He doesn't like people bothering him while he's working...and is someone who might occasionally knock things over or throw something at you as an indication that he wants to be left alone." I then laughed, and told her that I have sensed a man in that exact space of the home...and that I have had a gnawing near-obsession to be working, working, working on that specific portion of the home, for no real good reason (space that my family doesn't need and would likely never use). She said that my chronic need/urge to try and get behind that wall and work on something...ANYTHING is likely me sensing his energy and unhappiness. Kind of as a way of communicating with me. She says that man is "poco loco" though...and just gets upset when people interrupt his work. I guess I'd be crazy and easily agitated too if I had been laying brick for the past 95 years. :X The thing that really sucks now though is my wife refuses to go into that part of the basement for anything anymore. She'll run out to the store and buy another utility knife...just so she doesn't have to go down there to get the one I keep in my tool box. :(

As for what kind of names...

In the case of "Arnie"....she mentioned first and last name without any advanced knowledge of the history of the home or its former owners. She also mentioned timeframe. We then verified that information (down to the spelling)...and got a ton of additional information from his daughter (and then later a second daughter) when they came back for reunions to tour the home. She also mentioned the name "Maria" as one of the female children who are still in the home. I chimed in, thinking I was being clever and said "Maria?" She smiled and said "Oh...you thought I meant Marie, the woman who originally built and lived in the home. I meant Maria...who is one of the girls who likes to make sure people know she's here from time to time." If you read that little exchange again, what highly impressed me was that Marie WAS the first name of the woman who first lived in the home. She wouldn't have known that...but offered that additional information simply from me asking "Maria?" in a clarifying tone.

What I think is kind of cool is that my oldest daughter and I were hanging some sheet rock in the attic (well, I was hanging sheetrock, and she was being "Daddy's helper," lol). Anyway, I had moved something from one of the studs as I was getting ready to hang a piece of sheetrock, when right in front of me was Marie's signature (first and last name). I cut a hole in the sheetrock piece so the signature still is visible when you enter the attic. Just kind of fun to have stumbled on that little memento from decades earlier.

 

[T Bell]

Can you expound on these a bit? What feelings did she report having? What kinds of names?

I'll try and keep it brief, but here it goes. As to feelings, most of it was more a combination of my feeling and her seeing. I told my wife what I was feeling before she came over, then she told us what she was feeling/seeing. An example: Ever since the first time we set foot in the home, there is one particular room in the home where I feel the constant need to work, remodel, etc. Again, checked for CO, radon, EMF, etc. and the tests come back clean. Anyway, I told my wife that I felt that chronic need to work, and that I also sensed an older man behind the wall. To which I'm sure she was thinking We got one brick out, and I used a combination of a flashlight and a mirror to check in the space to see what was there. I methodically checked that space out from top to bottom (as much as I could see, anyway), and saw nothing but dust, cobwebs and probably a couple bugs. I KNEW someone was there though...I just didn't know why. The space is probably only 6-7' deep by 8-9' wide, positioned behind a storage room, between two cisterns and beneath a bathroom.

My friend came in, without any information or knowledge of my feelings/experiences, and was immediately drawn to that space. She immediately asked me "What is behind that wall?," got closer, and then took a few steps back and said [paraphrasing] "I'm sensing an older man behind that wall who was a mason that was laying brick on the home. In fact, he's yelling at me right now...telling me to 'Get out of here!' I think he died while working on the home. He didn't die on the property, but had some type of a health issue while on the property that lead to his death. He doesn't know he is dead...so he's kept coming to work for the past 90+ years. He doesn't like people bothering him while he's working...and is someone who might occasionally knock things over or throw something at you as an indication that he wants to be left alone." I then laughed, and told her that I have sensed a man in that exact space of the home...and that I have had a gnawing near-obsession to be working, working, working on that specific portion of the home, for no real good reason (space that my family doesn't need and would likely never use). She said that my chronic need/urge to try and get behind that wall and work on something...ANYTHING is likely me sensing his energy and unhappiness. Kind of as a way of communicating with me. She says that man is "poco loco" though...and just gets upset when people interrupt his work. I guess I'd be crazy and easily agitated too if I had been laying brick for the past 95 years. The thing that really sucks now though is my wife refuses to go into that part of the basement for anything anymore. She'll run out to the store and buy another utility knife...just so she doesn't have to go down there to get the one I keep in my tool box. :(

As for what kind of names...

In the case of "Arnie"....she mentioned first and last name without any advanced knowledge of the history of the home or its former owners. She also mentioned timeframe. We then verified that information (down to the spelling)...and got a ton of additional information from his daughter (and then later a second daughter) when they came back for reunions to tour the home. She also mentioned the name "Maria" as one of the female children who are still in the home. I chimed in, thinking I was being clever and said "Maria?" She smiled and said "Oh...you thought I meant Marie, the woman who originally built and lived in the home. I meant Maria...who is one of the girls who likes to make sure people know she's here from time to time." If you read that little exchange again, what highly impressed me was that Marie WAS the first name of the woman who first lived in the home. She wouldn't have known that...but offered that additional information simply from me asking "Maria?" in a clarifying tone.

What I think is kind of cool is that my oldest daughter and I were hanging some sheet rock in the attic (well, I was hanging sheetrock, and she was being "Daddy's helper," lol). Anyway, I had moved something from one of the studs as I was getting ready to hang a piece of sheetrock, when right in front of me was Marie's signature (first and last name). I cut a hole in the sheetrock piece so the signature still is visible when you enter the attic. Just kind of fun to have stumbled on that little memento from decades earlier.

You do know that prior owners are identified in public records, right?

 

[flysack]

The only thing I don't understand about his story is that he claims he was fully awake. I wasn't there, so I can't speak to that. The rest of his story fits the idea of sleep paralysis (or a waking dream, which is what I usually call it) to a T. I've experienced it, and I'm sure others have as well. I'm sure many of you know what sleep paralysis is, but just in case you don't...

From Wikipedia (I know, not the most reliable source, but it's the only thing I could find in 2 minutes)

In addition, the paralysis state may be accompanied by terrifying hallucinations (hypnopompic or hypnagogic) and an acute sense of danger.[10] Sleep paralysis is particularly frightening to the individual due to the vividness of such hallucinations.[11] The hallucinatory element to sleep paralysis makes it even more likely that someone will interpret the experience as a dream, since completely fanciful, or dream-like, objects may appear in the room alongside one's normal vision. Some scientists have proposed this condition as an explanation for alien abductions and ghostly encounters.[12] A study by Susan Blackmore and Marcus Cox of the University of the West of England supports the suggestion that alien abductions are related to sleep paralysis rather than to temporal lobe lability.[13]

To be honest, the waking dream episode is one of the reasons I started researching things. I was convinced during my teenage years that I was attacked by a succubus, because that's what the "paranormal experts" online were calling it. I was young and foolish

I've gotten these infrequently all my life. When I was younger I was convinced it had something to do with a malevolent presence haunting me or trying to possess my body. The shear amount of terror I felt was incredible: it overwhelms all logic and reason and thus gives credence to hokie paranormal explanations.

However, since I wised up and researched them a bit, they're aren't as frightening. The paralysis is still there. The terror is still there. But I'm able to slowly control the fear and work my way through the dream-muddled consciousness to "wake up." I tell myself it's just a waking dream. It's just a waking dream. Relax. Relax. It'll be over soon. Once the fear subsides, I begin to feel movement in my toes and fingers, and then I'm ok.

It is a very terrifying experience though. It's easy to make fun of people for believing that they're being possessed, but the I have nothing but the utmost sympathy for them. It's one of the worst experiences I've ever gone through, and it still happens from time to time.

 

[datonn]

You do know that prior owners are identified in public records, right?

Absolutely. How else do you think my wife and I have been able to verify a number of things about former owners or what occurred during the construction of the home? I guess what you're implying though is that my "medium" friend would have gone down to the library or City Hall in town and/or a couple towns over to the county records office to get some of the information she shared before our meeting, correct? Could she have done that? I suppose it's technically possible. However, here's how things went down. I contacted her on a Sunday afternoon, reaching my limit of tolerance about 36 hours after we were having big things in the NW corner of our attic literally dragged 5-6 feet from where I put them (no floor there anymore...so it's a death-defying 25-28' walk on studs and over HVAC duct work that are buried under a good 6"-18" of cellulose insulation...and my wife and ESPECIALLY my two young daughters would never, EVER go back there. Or even if they did, it would leave a dirty trail of messed-up cellulose insulation, if they were lucky and didn't fall through the second floor ceiling. Anyway, I was too creeped out to fix it right away after going up there with a flashlight and seeing it all messed up...but when I gathered the courage later that weekend and headed back in with my flashlight and equipment, everything had returned to its original location...which scared me even more!On Monday afternoon, my friend came over to meet with us and talk about some of what she was seeing/feeling in the home. So...I guess you're saying that she spent all of Monday morning camped out in our local library and a half-hour away at the county records office to gather up all that info...just so she could look smart and/or pretend that she knew things that were simply a matter of some historical research...all so she could charge me exactly $0 for the time she spent in our home, because she had nothing better to do with her time. At least for the maybe 1/3 of the factoids that were actually related to former home owners. Not sure where she got the other 2/3 of the information...but maybe she also has a secret intern, assistant or some kind of clone that was out gathering that other info while she was stuck at the library and the county records office for those 4-5 hours after they opened before our meeting. I realize that skeptics think this stuff is ridiculous. However, can you at least humor me and give me that her having maybe 20-22 hours (including 16-17 of those hours being while our library, City Hall and county records offices were closed) advanced warning of coming to check things out in our home, and writing off all of what she shared as "You do know that prior owners are identified in public records, right?" is a little ridiculous too?!

 

[flysack]

- When I was seven, I used to play in the side of the yard by my parents house...and they had these two huge (1,000+ pound) landscaping rocks that were positioned about 20-22' apart. I remember clear as day standing on the rock closest to the house and thinking: "I can jump that...no problem!" Dumb kids stuff, right?! I then remember closing my eyes, and from a standing start, jumping and landing on my shins on the other rock. I remember my pants getting dirty, and the little bit of pain from landing on my shins instead of on my feet. A 1st/2nd grader...making a 20-22' jump from a standing start. After dusting myself off, I remember thinking "how the HECK did I do that?" and then spending the rest of the afternoon trying to do it again....only making it 7-8' even with a running start.

Whoa....

 

[T Bell]

You do know that prior owners are identified in public records, right?

Absolutely. How else do you think my wife and I have been able to verify a number of things about former owners or what occurred during the construction of the home? I guess what you're implying though is that my "medium" friend would have gone down to the library or City Hall in town and/or a couple towns over to the county records office to get some of the information she shared before our meeting, correct? Could she have done that? I suppose it's technically possible. However, here's how things went down. I contacted her on a Sunday afternoon, reaching my limit of tolerance about 36 hours after we were having big things in the NW corner of our attic literally dragged 5-6 feet from where I put them (no floor there anymore...so it's a death-defying 25-28' walk on studs and over HVAC duct work that are buried under a good 6"-18" of cellulose insulation...and my wife and ESPECIALLY my two young daughters would never, EVER go back there. Or even if they did, it would leave a dirty trail of messed-up cellulose insulation, if they were lucky and didn't fall through the second floor ceiling. Anyway, I was too creeped out to fix it right away after going up there with a flashlight and seeing it all messed up...but when I gathered the courage later that weekend and headed back in with my flashlight and equipment, everything had returned to its original location...which scared me even more!On Monday afternoon, my friend came over to meet with us and talk about some of what she was seeing/feeling in the home. So...I guess you're saying that she spent all of Monday morning camped out in our local library and a half-hour away at the county records office to gather up all that info...just so she could look smart and/or pretend that she knew things that were simply a matter of some historical research...all so she could charge me exactly $0 for the time she spent in our home, because she had nothing better to do with her time. At least for the maybe 1/3 of the factoids that were actually related to former home owners. Not sure where she got the other 2/3 of the information...but maybe she also has a secret intern, assistant or some kind of clone that was out gathering that other info while she was stuck at the library and the county records office for those 4-5 hours after they opened before our meeting. I realize that skeptics think this stuff is ridiculous. However, can you at least humor me and give me that her having maybe 20-22 hours (including 16-17 of those hours being while our library, City Hall and county records offices were closed) advanced warning of coming to check things out in our home, and writing off all of what she shared as "You do know that prior owners are identified in public records, right?" is a little ridiculous too?!

So you're not a fan of shaving with Occam's Razor then?