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religion is the opiate of the masses. And by your post in this thread you've free-based some pretty potent ####!Never have done drugs stronger than caffeine, including nicotine. Have had probably 20-25 drinks of alcohol in my lifetime (I'm 40). But thanks for playing!
Maybe you can throw a little Scotty money datonn's way to get him started.
a bat lived in your house and flew by you?I'll share another little story. Absolutely nothing supernatural, but maybe you'll get the point. When my oldest was about two, our family room was near the top of our second floor stairs (now her bedroom). Other than some of the experiences I have mentioned, nothing "natural" happened in the home that was out of the ordinary. One evening I was sitting on the couch typing away on my laptop, when I saw a shadow outside the door to the family room. I looked up, and after about a second, I saw this huge bat fly around the corner (up the last few stairs), toward the family room, then turn around and fly back down the stairs.I thought "holy CRAP!" and got up and shut the door to the stairs. I then tried not to think about it, and didn't tell my wife...as the For Sale sign would have been out the next morning. Weeks went by and nothing unusual happened. So after a while, I stopped thinking about it. Water under the bridge. Then one night, I went downstairs around 10pm to get a snack, when I got "buzzed" by a bat that was flying between the dining room and living room. I immediately thought about that night in the family room, then did what I needed to do to capture and get that bat out of our home. That was about 6-7 years and about 8-9 bats ago.
My point? That night in the family room, I saw a bat. I had never had an experience with one before, and it scared me. However, after shutting the door, and having several days pass, I started trying to talk myself into the idea that it might have been my imagination, or I might have thought I saw something that was just a big bug or ??? casting a shadow just right via it's position next to a hallway light, or ??? Thing is, I knew what I saw. Only I tried to trick myself into believing otherwise.
That's what I was getting at. If you see something you "know" can't be real/shouldn't be there, you'll look for any and every opportunity to have your world view/order preserved or restored. Because life is 1000% easier that way. It's when your beliefs and your world view/order is smashed into about 1,000 pieces that life gets hard. Also see: what would happen to Hoart Petterson if he had an experience that he could not easily explain away. Explanations that he knows aren't just trying to convince himself that he didn't just see a bat fly up the stairs, anyway.
I'm sold... Mental Note: call the excorcist.This post reads like its from 1412. I observed an unusual phenomena that I had previously not encountered. It scared me. I needed something o all the powerful feelings of emotion I felt. It was ghosts.I think the point was that the first time something "weird" happens, you try to explain it away. The next time it happens, you're not as taken by surprise, not as emotional, and are a little more level headed in your approach. At least, that's what I got out of it.a bat lived in your house and flew by you?I'll share another little story. Absolutely nothing supernatural, but maybe you'll get the point. When my oldest was about two, our family room was near the top of our second floor stairs (now her bedroom). Other than some of the experiences I have mentioned, nothing "natural" happened in the home that was out of the ordinary. One evening I was sitting on the couch typing away on my laptop, when I saw a shadow outside the door to the family room. I looked up, and after about a second, I saw this huge bat fly around the corner (up the last few stairs), toward the family room, then turn around and fly back down the stairs.I thought "holy CRAP!" and got up and shut the door to the stairs. I then tried not to think about it, and didn't tell my wife...as the For Sale sign would have been out the next morning. Weeks went by and nothing unusual happened. So after a while, I stopped thinking about it. Water under the bridge. Then one night, I went downstairs around 10pm to get a snack, when I got "buzzed" by a bat that was flying between the dining room and living room. I immediately thought about that night in the family room, then did what I needed to do to capture and get that bat out of our home. That was about 6-7 years and about 8-9 bats ago.
My point? That night in the family room, I saw a bat. I had never had an experience with one before, and it scared me. However, after shutting the door, and having several days pass, I started trying to talk myself into the idea that it might have been my imagination, or I might have thought I saw something that was just a big bug or ??? casting a shadow just right via it's position next to a hallway light, or ??? Thing is, I knew what I saw. Only I tried to trick myself into believing otherwise.
That's what I was getting at. If you see something you "know" can't be real/shouldn't be there, you'll look for any and every opportunity to have your world view/order preserved or restored. Because life is 1000% easier that way. It's when your beliefs and your world view/order is smashed into about 1,000 pieces that life gets hard. Also see: what would happen to Hoart Petterson if he had an experience that he could not easily explain away. Explanations that he knows aren't just trying to convince himself that he didn't just see a bat fly up the stairs, anyway.
Nowadays this would go. Saw a bat. Almost hit me. Mental note: call the exterminator.
Wow... I never heard of this before. It's describes everything that happened. all but the fact that the pastor at that time said something just like that a couple days later. anyway. Wether or not it was demonic or just sleep paralysis. It was scary as hell. I don't want to ever experience that again. Although now that I think about it I have been awoken out of sleep in a frozen state several other times. maybe I do have this sleep paralysis thing. I'll talk to my doc about it when I see him again. Thanks for sharing this. as to the rest of it. Here is some scripture that talks about what happened after death. Luke Chapter 16:22-31 22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 27Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.To me that shows that when you die you don't go to heaven but, if you're saved you go to a place that isn't hell. However, it's a place where you can see hell and hell can see you. Even talk to each other. Yet, you're comforted. If your not saved then you go to hell, where your tormented. Either way you wait for final judgement. That is where you will be told either to enter in thy good and faithful servant. or Depart from me. If you get the first then you go to Heaven. If it's the second then your are thrown into the Lake of Fire.
I'd love to claim "schtick" and
but I can't. Heck, I'd be a legend around these parts if I came back and said "Gotcha!" after all this time. But I can't.As far as the other part...taking comfort in the idea that some experience is "an active imagination" rather than something real/physical/tangible you are experiencing, just read hutchins929's last reply to your Sleep Paralysis comment. You honestly don't think the idea of sleep paralysis (which I thought it sounds like too, FWIW) is 1,000-times more comforting than the thought that he actually had ??? in his room whispering that they were going to kill him and everyone in his church? That he wouldn't feel as though he had thousands of pounds of weight taken off his shoulders if it were just his brain causing him to think he was experiencing a physical phenomenon and hearing voices of people he couldn't see? 
For me, the frequency of experiences has diminished greatly as I have gotten older (I'm 40 now). I had some weird, not-scary stuff happening from the time I was 6-7 until I was around 14...then it tapered off until I got to college. When I got to college, until I was in my mid/late 20s, the stuff that was occurring was much, MUCH darker/scarier. Again, no "chemical" influences in my life at that time or ever...before some yahoo asks for the 300th time.
Then over the past decade or so, it's been much less frequent, and much less dark/scary. More seeing things or having bits of information pop into my head that I wouldn't know about someone or something that happened...only to later be able to confirm said information was accurate. Although the one and only time I've ever been spoken to by name was when I was about 37...helping my Mom move into her new home. THAT scared the ba-jeebus out of me...since I was the only person on the entire floor and it was clear as day...probably 8-10 feet in front of me in the same room. That's more what my sister has experienced (having ??? speak to her), which I tell her would have had me institutionalized. Whereas she says that isn't "too" bad, but she couldn't handle a lot of what I experienced back during and after college.As for other family members...yep. Going at least as far back as my great grandmother...who was accused of witchcraft in our local church because she could "see" things that she shouldn't see/know, was called upon by the area police to help remotely locate bodies in cases of missing persons, drownings, etc. Most of the kids from the Swedish side of my family (3/4 German) had really strange "gifts" or experiences too. One smelled a particular type of flower every time someone in the family died (immediately before they got the call/news). My grandmother would sense/know things, for lack of a better way to describe it...though she hated talking about it and tried to turn "it" off because it scared her to death. Her youngest (living) brother would regularly have family members visit him and say goodbye after they died.My Dad has had strange stuff occur throughout his life...but more physiological than anything. My mother had a few experiences growing up as well...though she is living in complete denial, as it scared her 100-times more than it even scared my grandmother. My sister had a ton of experiences over the past 3-4 decades, and my nieces (youngest, in particular) have had experiences too. More on the dark/scary side like mine during/after college, unfortunately.For my grandmother's siblings and for my sister and my father, their experiences never really "tapered off" as they got older. My great-grandmother had experiences until the day she died. So as far as the tapering-off is concerned, I seem to be in the minority...at least in my family. Though I do still have "experiences," just different experiences...and not nearly as frequent.I don't know why they would have tapered off. Although after having the concussion I had when I was 21, you'd think I would have experienced more phenomena rather than less...no? [hoart] Since all this stuff is just a brain injury or "mental illness," right?! Or carbon monoxide poisoning. Or some bad fish I ate last night (if I ate fish). Or "Awake Paralysis" (since sleep paralysis doesn't fit my particular experiences). Or _____________. [/hoart]
I don't think getting older necessarily has anything to do with it. More coincidental.
I wouldn't rule this out but more accurately I would think it's a chemical imbalance in your brain with a strong genetic component.I'd like to take some samples of your brain tissue.Again, no "chemical" influences in my life at that time or ever...before some yahoo asks for the 300th time.
Can we be certain about this statement? I don't think the cause of sleep paralysis has been identified.
I'm fairly certain about it. It has happened to me quite a bit, at least 20+ times and in no way do I believe it to be supernatural or religious. It happens more frequently when I have thrown of my sleep schedule by staying out for like a night and then sleeping during the day etc, so to me it is obviously is based on some natural functions. I don't think demons just would rather attack me when in certain situations. At time, I will wake up from it and gain movement back only to fall asleep a minute later and have the same thing occur unless I kinda get up and wake myself up a little bit. Just my brain doing weird stuff for some reason. If it was demons or supernatural stuff, I really don't know what they are trying to accomplish as it doesn't frighten me or anything. In times where religion was used to explain the unknown, people though sleep paralysis was demons or a succubus, once the UFO craze happened people thought they were being abducted by aliens and probed. People will view it as they want to but the simplest explanation is that is just part of some brain chemistry etc.
When you sleep, your body releases a chemical to paralyze you, so you don't flail about in the real world while you're dreaming. Otherwise, if you dreamed you were swimming, you'd be flopping all over the sheets. When you come out of your dream state, your body is supposed to release a counteracting chemical to restore full motion. Sometimes, that doesn't happen. Often when your sleep pattern is disturbed.
Heh. Get in line!I wouldn't rule this out but more accurately I would think it's a chemical imbalance in your brain with a strong genetic component.I'd like to take some samples of your brain tissue.Again, no "chemical" influences in my life at that time or ever...before some yahoo asks for the 300th time.
Although FWIW, I've probably had more tests on my brain than the average couple hundred (thousand?) people in the FFA. More tests than I can even remember...and have more coming up at Mayo Clinic in a couple weeks. Sleep studies, cerebral angiograms, EKG/EEG, enough blood work to make me look like a pin cushion, MRIs, "psychological" and skills/function testing, et al. All the neurologists I have seen, all the tests I have had, basically show I am physically/mentally healthy as an ox with an IQ level that places me in the top 3-5% of the population...other than a venus angioma which they say is "normally abnormal" and would not be the cause of my migraines and/or any of the other "unusual experiences." And the psychologist I saw (after my wife and I attended marriage counseling) said that I do not have any form of mental illness, need no medications, et al. I'm just a guy who works WAY too many hours and isn't happy/satisfied with how his relationship with his wife has devolved.It's not like I haven't tried to get to the bottom of things. There just hasn't been any "medical" explanation for a lot of my issues and experiences yet...as much as 3-4 FFA armchair quarterbacks would like to think that they stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night...lol.
And yet you're clearly lacking some critical thinking/logic skills.Heh. Get in line!I wouldn't rule this out but more accurately I would think it's a chemical imbalance in your brain with a strong genetic component.I'd like to take some samples of your brain tissue.Again, no "chemical" influences in my life at that time or ever...before some yahoo asks for the 300th time.
I'll give you the fact of that being very possible...if you'll give me the fact that others might be FAR too afraid or close-minded when it comes to this subject, and/or unable to handle the thought of a world that is bigger than they can see, smell, hear, touch and taste.
OKI'll give you the fact of that being very possible...if you'll give me the fact that others might be FAR too afraid or close-minded when it comes to this subject, and/or unable to handle the thought of a world that is bigger than they can see, smell, hear, touch and taste.
I believe that you believe all this stuff. That isn't evidence. Here's the problem with our senses: we trust them. An adult that experiences something fantastic isn't any more reliable than a child that sees a good magician. The child believes the magic trick because his eyes see something. No, you aren't a child. And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are healthy mentally. But again, your perception of a given stimuli isn't evidence.
Call me repressed and/or old-fashioned, I guess. I lost too many friends to alcohol in high school to want to drink though, and always felt as though I wanted to save myself for marriage. Not that it was easy! But I did it. Would I do it again if I could go back 20 years in a time machine?! Now THAT'S a tough question! Knowing what I know now, I'm not sure I would. But there's far worse things in life, I suppose. Although not many. 
Amen. The easiest con of all-time was telling people they needed to behave in a certain way or face the worst consequences imaginable after they die.
I respect this desire to understand our existence and the need to ponder life after death. What I don't respect is anyone that claims to have an answer."Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?" ~ Douglas Adams
This makes no sense, bro. Sorry.'datonn said:just read hutchins929's last reply to your Sleep Paralysis comment. You honestly don't think the idea of sleep paralysis (which I thought it sounds like too, FWIW) is 1,000-times more comforting than the thought that he actually had ??? in his room whispering that they were going to kill him and everyone in his church? That he would feel as though he had thousands of pounds of weight taken off his shoulders if it were just his brain causing him to think he was experiencing a physical phenomenon and hearing voices of people he couldn't see?
I did recently get one of those Flip Mino HD cameras...though I'm just learning how to use it. Once I learn how to use it (hopefully it has a night vision setting), I'll leave it running in our 3rd floor bedroom and/or our basement project room and see what it sees. I think it only has a couple hours of recording time on it though per-charge...so it might take time/luck to capture anything "interesting."That doesn't really change my original point though. The point isn't capturing "something." The point is capturing something that passes muster related to skeptics...and cannot be easily explained away. I could potentially capture something moving on its own...swearing up, down, left, right and sideways that nobody was up there and I didn't "rig" anything with wire or doctor the footage. And how many skeptics would believe me? Let me take a stab at it: Zero.'4x champ said:
I could capture some strange light/form/object on video that I couldn't explain...promising on my childrens' lives that I didn't do ANYTHING other than share the raw, original footage, and how many skeptics would believe me? You guessed it! Zero.
This is crap btw. You're already apologizing before you even start taping. Let's see something compelling and then we'll go from there.I did recently get one of those Flip Mino HD cameras...though I'm just learning how to use it. Once I learn how to use it (hopefully it has a night vision setting), I'll leave it running in our 3rd floor bedroom and/or our basement project room and see what it sees. I think it only has a couple hours of recording time on it though per-charge...so it might take time/luck to capture anything "interesting."That doesn't really change my original point though. The point isn't capturing "something." The point is capturing something that passes muster related to skeptics...and cannot be easily explained away. I could potentially capture something moving on its own...swearing up, down, left, right and sideways that nobody was up there and I didn't "rig" anything with wire or doctor the footage. And how many skeptics would believe me? Let me take a stab at it: Zero.'4x champ said:
Capturing "something" on audio/video isn't the point or the goal. Capturing something that will make skeptics pause and shrug their shoulders is pretty much impossible without them being there, experiencing it, and them knowing for a fact that I (or nobody) rigged anything to make for good "fiction." That's what folks want. I could capture some crazy stuff...and what's to say a skeptic wouldn't imply that I must have some talented friends in the film/CG biz out in Hollywood? Just exactly how is one proven innocent in a situation where one is "guilty until proven innocent...beyond a reasonable doubt?"
Actually, what is crap is your reading comprehension. Just where exactly in my last post did you see a pre-apology?! Actually, what is even a bigger, steamier, smellier pile of crap is you implying that *ANYTHING* I (anyone) could ever produce on audio/video would actually satisfy you as a skeptic. You "know" you're right...and you "know" I'm wrong (along with millions and millions who might disagree with you). And nothing short of you sitting down at a table with the cameras rolling and a __________ strolling in, shaking your hand, introducing themselves and engaging in a few hours of Q&A would cause even the slightest crack in your certainty about being right.What's it like...knowing everything?! I don't think I could be alive for the next trillion years and be 100% certain that I am the shizz-nit when it comes knowing things. So just how did you manage to pull it off in a matter of mere decades?!
If my post came off as a challenge to prove the skeptics wrong, my bad, it wasn't meant to be that. I was just offering a cheaper alternative to any hi-tech video gear you might think you need. A simple tape recorder can capture audio on another wavelength that we can't hear, so they say. I'm curious about this stuff and watch shows like Ghost Hunters and Ghost Adventures. Check them out to see how they capture some of their evidence.I did recently get one of those Flip Mino HD cameras...though I'm just learning how to use it. Once I learn how to use it (hopefully it has a night vision setting), I'll leave it running in our 3rd floor bedroom and/or our basement project room and see what it sees. I think it only has a couple hours of recording time on it though per-charge...so it might take time/luck to capture anything "interesting."That doesn't really change my original point though. The point isn't capturing "something." The point is capturing something that passes muster related to skeptics...and cannot be easily explained away. I could potentially capture something moving on its own...swearing up, down, left, right and sideways that nobody was up there and I didn't "rig" anything with wire or doctor the footage. And how many skeptics would believe me? Let me take a stab at it: Zero.'4x champ said:
Capturing "something" on audio/video isn't the point or the goal. Capturing something that will make skeptics pause and shrug their shoulders is pretty much impossible without them being there, experiencing it, and them knowing for a fact that I (or nobody) rigged anything to make for good "fiction." That's what folks want. I could capture some crazy stuff...and what's to say a skeptic wouldn't imply that I must have some talented friends in the film/CG biz out in Hollywood? Just exactly how is one proven innocent in a situation where one is "guilty until proven innocent...beyond a reasonable doubt?"
The video would be for you, not us. After one of your little sessions where something strange goes down, review the video. You'll find nothing. Bank on it.I did recently get one of those Flip Mino HD cameras...though I'm just learning how to use it. Once I learn how to use it (hopefully it has a night vision setting), I'll leave it running in our 3rd floor bedroom and/or our basement project room and see what it sees. I think it only has a couple hours of recording time on it though per-charge...so it might take time/luck to capture anything "interesting."That doesn't really change my original point though. The point isn't capturing "something." The point is capturing something that passes muster related to skeptics...and cannot be easily explained away. I could potentially capture something moving on its own...swearing up, down, left, right and sideways that nobody was up there and I didn't "rig" anything with wire or doctor the footage. And how many skeptics would believe me? Let me take a stab at it: Zero.'4x champ said:
Capturing "something" on audio/video isn't the point or the goal. Capturing something that will make skeptics pause and shrug their shoulders is pretty much impossible without them being there, experiencing it, and them knowing for a fact that I (or nobody) rigged anything to make for good "fiction." That's what folks want. I could capture some crazy stuff...and what's to say a skeptic wouldn't imply that I must have some talented friends in the film/CG biz out in Hollywood? Just exactly how is one proven innocent in a situation where one is "guilty until proven innocent...beyond a reasonable doubt?"
First of all, you call my reading comprehension out for saying you're apologizing in advance..then you go and do it again in the very next paragraph! Second, what in the #### are you talking about? Me knowing everything? Because I question your account of making an 18 foot standing long jump when you were a child? I don't know when you got the idea that I thought I had all the answers. YOU'RE the guy who comes in here spouting off about demons, evil and whatever the hell else you're talking about. For a guy who claims to be in the dark about this stuff you sure seem to know a lot unexplainable. You started the thread guy, enough with being a martyr because we question some of these wild occurrences that happen in your life. Maybe you need a drink? Maybe you're a little high strung?
WHAT IS IT LIKE KNOWING EVERYTHING?The video would be for you, not us. After one of your little sessions where something strange goes down, review the video. You'll find nothing. Bank on it.I did recently get one of those Flip Mino HD cameras...though I'm just learning how to use it. Once I learn how to use it (hopefully it has a night vision setting), I'll leave it running in our 3rd floor bedroom and/or our basement project room and see what it sees. I think it only has a couple hours of recording time on it though per-charge...so it might take time/luck to capture anything "interesting."That doesn't really change my original point though. The point isn't capturing "something." The point is capturing something that passes muster related to skeptics...and cannot be easily explained away. I could potentially capture something moving on its own...swearing up, down, left, right and sideways that nobody was up there and I didn't "rig" anything with wire or doctor the footage. And how many skeptics would believe me? Let me take a stab at it: Zero.'4x champ said:
Capturing "something" on audio/video isn't the point or the goal. Capturing something that will make skeptics pause and shrug their shoulders is pretty much impossible without them being there, experiencing it, and them knowing for a fact that I (or nobody) rigged anything to make for good "fiction." That's what folks want. I could capture some crazy stuff...and what's to say a skeptic wouldn't imply that I must have some talented friends in the film/CG biz out in Hollywood? Just exactly how is one proven innocent in a situation where one is "guilty until proven innocent...beyond a reasonable doubt?"
A little lonely. :(WHAT IS IT LIKE KNOWING EVERYTHING?The video would be for you, not us. After one of your little sessions where something strange goes down, review the video. You'll find nothing. Bank on it.I did recently get one of those Flip Mino HD cameras...though I'm just learning how to use it. Once I learn how to use it (hopefully it has a night vision setting), I'll leave it running in our 3rd floor bedroom and/or our basement project room and see what it sees. I think it only has a couple hours of recording time on it though per-charge...so it might take time/luck to capture anything "interesting."That doesn't really change my original point though. The point isn't capturing "something." The point is capturing something that passes muster related to skeptics...and cannot be easily explained away. I could potentially capture something moving on its own...swearing up, down, left, right and sideways that nobody was up there and I didn't "rig" anything with wire or doctor the footage. And how many skeptics would believe me? Let me take a stab at it: Zero.'4x champ said:
Capturing "something" on audio/video isn't the point or the goal. Capturing something that will make skeptics pause and shrug their shoulders is pretty much impossible without them being there, experiencing it, and them knowing for a fact that I (or nobody) rigged anything to make for good "fiction." That's what folks want. I could capture some crazy stuff...and what's to say a skeptic wouldn't imply that I must have some talented friends in the film/CG biz out in Hollywood? Just exactly how is one proven innocent in a situation where one is "guilty until proven innocent...beyond a reasonable doubt?"
We'll accept that. We also would have accepted "It's awful."A little lonely. :(WHAT IS IT LIKE KNOWING EVERYTHING?The video would be for you, not us. After one of your little sessions where something strange goes down, review the video. You'll find nothing. Bank on it.I did recently get one of those Flip Mino HD cameras...though I'm just learning how to use it. Once I learn how to use it (hopefully it has a night vision setting), I'll leave it running in our 3rd floor bedroom and/or our basement project room and see what it sees. I think it only has a couple hours of recording time on it though per-charge...so it might take time/luck to capture anything "interesting."That doesn't really change my original point though. The point isn't capturing "something." The point is capturing something that passes muster related to skeptics...and cannot be easily explained away. I could potentially capture something moving on its own...swearing up, down, left, right and sideways that nobody was up there and I didn't "rig" anything with wire or doctor the footage. And how many skeptics would believe me? Let me take a stab at it: Zero.'4x champ said:
Capturing "something" on audio/video isn't the point or the goal. Capturing something that will make skeptics pause and shrug their shoulders is pretty much impossible without them being there, experiencing it, and them knowing for a fact that I (or nobody) rigged anything to make for good "fiction." That's what folks want. I could capture some crazy stuff...and what's to say a skeptic wouldn't imply that I must have some talented friends in the film/CG biz out in Hollywood? Just exactly how is one proven innocent in a situation where one is "guilty until proven innocent...beyond a reasonable doubt?"
He's right though, Hoart. You've already made it perfectly clear that any "evidence" will not be enough for you. So why should he waste his time trying to collect it (although I would like him to also)?
Wow, weird to read through some of the things in that book, as I live very close to several of them. Maybe I'll grab the wife and go do an investigation.
Not a chance that happened. Everyone's mind plays tricks on them as a kid because the world seems so big. Was probably closer to 4 feet.
Bull####. "Evidence" will be exactly enough for me.
Oh, I'd love to see some evidence. And by "evidence," I don't mean easily explained physical phenomenon.
