I Wonder Who "WE" Is (1 Viewer)

[Arsenal of Doom]

I will say this, there could be a bit of a ghost in the machine in the Constitution under the wrong circumstances.

Leave Obama out of it.

Let's say a president decided he would veto everything that mattered or of substance and instead used executive orders to fill the vacuum - that would mean that virtually anything would require a 2/3's vote to become law. That would create a very serious constitutional crisis.

The problem is that the Republicans can't seem to pass anything substantive even when they control both houses. Which raises another constitutional issue, which the Republicans helped create and which the Democrats are now starting to use themselves, and that is that a small number of Senators can prevent anything from getting passed, thus leaving the power up to the president.

Everything and the kitchen sink is in this thread - internet regulation! immigration! health care! - but We The People are developing a nasty little habit of not being able to govern ourselves.

Why would 66% create a constitutional crisis but 60% seems to be just fine to many?

Take your pick, fine. - Is that the filibuster rule you're speaking of? I agree if so, I think I was referring to that.

I think just one Senate majority Leader can prevent a bill from reaching a vote anyway.

So who wants to get rid of the fillibuster when their own party might want it next go-round? And EO's are the same way, why limit the president's power if your party might have the WH next time and might want that power too.

But we are leading us down into an alley of negative democracy, the Congress/parliament can't act, so the president is constantly in a position (maybe rightly) of being able to claim "crisis" Maybe this is why people hate Congress so much these days regardless of power, because people see what a bs passive-aggressive ruse this is.

But it's a problem, we just keep delivering more and more power to the executive branch, he's not even required to enforce laws anymore. He may or may not. He may enact his own laws .... or he may not. One day he says he has no authority then two years later... he says he does. Even if the president is shot down by the courts would that stop him? Treasury just doled out a $3 billion payment to the insurance companies (remember, the bad guys?) and the payment isn't authorized by the ACA or appropriated in any way. It's all like some kind of kabuki theatre.

Oh yeah, you did mention that. Sorry, reading comprehension skills not awake yet I guess.

 

[Jim11]

Jim11 may be dimwitted troglodyte, at best, but this love letter to big government and regulation is silly.

It totally is. That part about having a high-paying job with great benefits and time-off is ridiculous for someone living in the U.S. compared to most other developed economies.

Actually, I'm an educated troglodyte, so there.

 

[apalmer]

Jim11 may be dimwitted troglodyte, at best, but this love letter to big government and regulation is silly.

It totally is. That part about having a high-paying job with great benefits and time-off is ridiculous for someone living in the U.S. compared to most other developed economies.

Actually, I'm an educated troglodyte, so there.

Educated and dimwitted are not mutually exclusive.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

Jim11 may be dimwitted troglodyte, at best, but this love letter to big government and regulation is silly.

It totally is. That part about having a high-paying job with great benefits and time-off is ridiculous for someone living in the U.S. compared to most other developed economies.

Actually, I'm an educated troglodyte, so there.

Educated and dimwitted are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Jim11]

Jim11 may be dimwitted troglodyte, at best, but this love letter to big government and regulation is silly.

It totally is. That part about having a high-paying job with great benefits and time-off is ridiculous for someone living in the U.S. compared to most other developed economies.

Actually, I'm an educated troglodyte, so there.

Educated and dimwitted are not mutually exclusive.

Good one.

 

[FlapJacks]

Not a fan of Obama's but the guy running the Executive Branch seeking to expand his powers isn't something he just came up with.

The previous administration was interested in expanding the power of the President as much as possible.

Yeah, start with Nixon. Washington.. and progressively expand it with every administration, and then there's your and our problem.

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