IDP Dynasty Rankings (1 Viewer)

[Jeff Pasquino]

Ok, I know the IDP Forum is a classy bunch, so go easy on me.

I think I did ok on this (too me all of Thurs and Fri), but I put up a Dynasty Ranking for IDP - Overall, DL, LB, and DB.

After several years of IDP leagues I'm a bit more comfortable with this.

If I boned one, just let me know.

As always - either I'll defend the pick / slot or I'll say whoops, my bad. Either way FBG gets better rankings on the board.

 

[ClownDogs]

No Link?????

ETA: Found the link in your SIG.

 

[lions327]

In giving a quick glance at your LB rankings, one ranking that jumped out at me was you having D.J. Williams 31st. I think being a 3 down MLB puts him in the top 10. Also, I expect a return to form from Mike Peterson, and he seems to be a solid buy low guy from owners who downgraded him because of his injury. I didn't take a really deep look yet, but those 2 caught my eye, especially D.J.

 

[Beaumont]

I dont like Okeafor near that high.

Good lists though!

 

[-OZ-]

Kind of weird seeing both Redskin Safeties in your top 10.

Any chance we can get a more complete breakdown, for those of us in CB and DT required leagues? I realize we can just look down the DBs and see Tillman, Winfield, Barber, etc. so the order of CBs is straight, but I suspect the elite Corners should be worth more, relative to Safeties, in these formats.

Michael Griffin seems low to me, but not worth arguing about.

 

[chook]

Not a bad list. I think Champ Bailey, Ronde Barber and Omar Gaither should be able to squeeze into a top 60 though.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

In giving a quick glance at your LB rankings, one ranking that jumped out at me was you having D.J. Williams 31st. I think being a 3 down MLB puts him in the top 10. Also, I expect a return to form from Mike Peterson, and he seems to be a solid buy low guy from owners who downgraded him because of his injury. I didn't take a really deep look yet, but those 2 caught my eye, especially D.J.

Given that Denver coveted Willis, I just don't think DJ will be a guy that is a starter for multiple years - hence I pushed him down some. Watching him more this season may change my mind, but that's where I gauge him for now. Certainly in redraft he should be higher.Peterson was discounted for age and I believe the Jags drafted a LB or two this year....yes, Durant and Nkang.Durant's selection hints that Peterson may not have much left in the tank.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I dont like Okeafor near that high.Good lists though!

I have a "thing" for DL that stand up and play more like a LB - which Arizona is doing this year as they try and move to a 3-4.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Kind of weird seeing both Redskin Safeties in your top 10. Any chance we can get a more complete breakdown, for those of us in CB and DT required leagues? I realize we can just look down the DBs and see Tillman, Winfield, Barber, etc. so the order of CBs is straight, but I suspect the elite Corners should be worth more, relative to Safeties, in these formats. Michael Griffin seems low to me, but not worth arguing about.

I'll defer to Jene or Norton as to if/when we break that down, but in general SS are worth more than CB, and DE of course more than DT.Elite corners are tough and IDP is counter-intuitive in that an elite corner won't make many plays if he's not thrown to, but a #2 corner will get more PD and tackles as he's getting "picked on" more.

 

[Donnybrook]

You have 4 rookies DEs ranked ahead of Mario Williams. Not only is Mario Williams more talented than these guys, he is younger.

Edit: except for Jamal Anderson. Turns out that he is younger than Mario.

 

[The Man With No Name]

In giving a quick glance at your LB rankings, one ranking that jumped out at me was you having D.J. Williams 31st. I think being a 3 down MLB puts him in the top 10. Also, I expect a return to form from Mike Peterson, and he seems to be a solid buy low guy from owners who downgraded him because of his injury. I didn't take a really deep look yet, but those 2 caught my eye, especially D.J.

Given that Denver coveted Willis, I just don't think DJ will be a guy that is a starter for multiple years - hence I pushed him down some. Watching him more this season may change my mind, but that's where I gauge him for now. Certainly in redraft he should be higher.Peterson was discounted for age and I believe the Jags drafted a LB or two this year....yes, Durant and Nkang.Durant's selection hints that Peterson may not have much left in the tank.

You have Peterson at #26 discounted for age, yet have 4 others (Farrior #23, Brooking #18, Fletcher #11, Thomas #5) who are older ranked ahead of him. ??

 

[-OZ-]

Kind of weird seeing both Redskin Safeties in your top 10. Any chance we can get a more complete breakdown, for those of us in CB and DT required leagues? I realize we can just look down the DBs and see Tillman, Winfield, Barber, etc. so the order of CBs is straight, but I suspect the elite Corners should be worth more, relative to Safeties, in these formats. Michael Griffin seems low to me, but not worth arguing about.

I'll defer to Jene or Norton as to if/when we break that down, but in general SS are worth more than CB, and DE of course more than DT.Elite corners are tough and IDP is counter-intuitive in that an elite corner won't make many plays if he's not thrown to, but a #2 corner will get more PD and tackles as he's getting "picked on" more.

When I say "elite corner", I mean for FF. You're right, rarely will a NFL all-pro CB have be as valuable in FF. By mentioning Tillman, Winfield and Barber I thought that was obvious.

 

[-OZ-]

In giving a quick glance at your LB rankings, one ranking that jumped out at me was you having D.J. Williams 31st. I think being a 3 down MLB puts him in the top 10. Also, I expect a return to form from Mike Peterson, and he seems to be a solid buy low guy from owners who downgraded him because of his injury. I didn't take a really deep look yet, but those 2 caught my eye, especially D.J.

Given that Denver coveted Willis, I just don't think DJ will be a guy that is a starter for multiple years - hence I pushed him down some. Watching him more this season may change my mind, but that's where I gauge him for now. Certainly in redraft he should be higher.Peterson was discounted for age and I believe the Jags drafted a LB or two this year....yes, Durant and Nkang.Durant's selection hints that Peterson may not have much left in the tank.

You have Peterson at #26 discounted for age, yet have 4 others (Farrior #23, Brooking #18, Fletcher #11, Thomas #5) who are older ranked ahead of him. ??

BTW, what's the latest on Peterson? WLB or MLB? Does it really matter?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

In giving a quick glance at your LB rankings, one ranking that jumped out at me was you having D.J. Williams 31st. I think being a 3 down MLB puts him in the top 10. Also, I expect a return to form from Mike Peterson, and he seems to be a solid buy low guy from owners who downgraded him because of his injury. I didn't take a really deep look yet, but those 2 caught my eye, especially D.J.

Given that Denver coveted Willis, I just don't think DJ will be a guy that is a starter for multiple years - hence I pushed him down some. Watching him more this season may change my mind, but that's where I gauge him for now. Certainly in redraft he should be higher.

Williams will be a 3 down starter for Denver for a while, whether MLB or OLB. They didnt get Willis, so now Williams can assert his strangehold on that job this year. We already know what he can do as a 3 down LB from the weak side in his rookie year, how can he worse as a 4 year vet in the middle?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I dont like Okeafor near that high.Good lists though!

I have a "thing" for DL that stand up and play more like a LB - which Arizona is doing this year as they try and move to a 3-4.

Who are the other DL on your list who you have bumped up based on your "thing"?

 

[Keith Lewis]

What's my name and how am I not even in the top 80?

Unbelievable...

 

[Jene Bramel]

In giving a quick glance at your LB rankings, one ranking that jumped out at me was you having D.J. Williams 31st. I think being a 3 down MLB puts him in the top 10. Also, I expect a return to form from Mike Peterson, and he seems to be a solid buy low guy from owners who downgraded him because of his injury. I didn't take a really deep look yet, but those 2 caught my eye, especially D.J.

Given that Denver coveted Willis, I just don't think DJ will be a guy that is a starter for multiple years - hence I pushed him down some. Watching him more this season may change my mind, but that's where I gauge him for now. Certainly in redraft he should be higher.Peterson was discounted for age and I believe the Jags drafted a LB or two this year....yes, Durant and Nkang.Durant's selection hints that Peterson may not have much left in the tank.

You have Peterson at #26 discounted for age, yet have 4 others (Farrior #23, Brooking #18, Fletcher #11, Thomas #5) who are older ranked ahead of him. ??

BTW, what's the latest on Peterson? WLB or MLB? Does it really matter?

It will absolutely matter.The prevailing opinion seems to be that Peterson will end up at WLB, since those rumblings have been there for two seasons now. It's yet to happen, though, and the Jags haven't officially confirmed anything one way or the other.I'd think that, should their roles be reversed, Peterson will better Smith's baseline WLB stats from 2005 and Smith won't do nearly as well as Peterson did in the middle.

 

[BearsFan]

What's the reasoning behind Kiwanuka being listed so high if he's heading to SLB?

Do you think circumstances will develop to return to DL over time?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

What's my name and how am I not even in the top 80?

Unbelievable...

Published Sun Mar 11 3:05:00 p.m. ET 2007

(KFFL) Dennis Georgatos, of the San Jose Mercury News, reporting for the Sporting News, reports the San Francisco 49ers will reshuffle their lineup at both safety positions after signing SS Michael Lewis. Lewis will become the 49ers strong safety, while SS Mark Roman will move over to free safety and replace SS Keith Lewis, who could back up either spot.

He's not starting.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

What's the reasoning behind Kiwanuka being listed so high if he's heading to SLB?Do you think circumstances will develop to return to DL over time?

It's based upon having a DL playing more as a LB, which bumps up his value in comparison to other DLs.Finding these guys that are in the wrong position (which I know Jene hates) can be a benefit to a FF team.Based on a Dynasty approach, however, I'm starting to believe that I am overcompensating for this as MFL will catch on to this quickly (again, see Bremel, Jene) and fix that issue.

 

[KellysHeroes]

EJ Henderson not in the top 25???

 

[Warpig]

On the Durant/Peterson front, I thought Peterson's play showed signs of slipping last year before the injury so I really don't expect him to get back to his old self.

I noticed you had Lemarr Woodley the DE from Pittsburgh in the DL rankings. I read somewhere that they may convert him to an OLB. Just FYI incase it actually does happen.

Also, I'm curious as to why everyone has Dwight Freeney so low. Is it just because of his down year? Or is it because they didn't really shore up their defense he'll be getting all the double teams? Hasn't he been double teamed his entire career? I'm just curious as to the reasoning.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Also, I'm curious as to why everyone has Dwight Freeney so low. Is it just because of his down year? Or is it because they didn't really shore up their defense he'll be getting all the double teams? Hasn't he been double teamed his entire career? I'm just curious as to the reasoning.

He doesnt have that safe foundation of getting in on a few running plays a game. Sometimes you get zeroes, sometimes you get 2-3 sacks. It's his lack of presence in the run game. I do think last year's stats reflected him being hurt, and he'll be back his old self this year (also helping the Indy Team D for fantasy )

 

[Oscar]

Mario Williams 40th?

 

[The Man With No Name]

In giving a quick glance at your LB rankings, one ranking that jumped out at me was you having D.J. Williams 31st. I think being a 3 down MLB puts him in the top 10. Also, I expect a return to form from Mike Peterson, and he seems to be a solid buy low guy from owners who downgraded him because of his injury. I didn't take a really deep look yet, but those 2 caught my eye, especially D.J.

Given that Denver coveted Willis, I just don't think DJ will be a guy that is a starter for multiple years - hence I pushed him down some. Watching him more this season may change my mind, but that's where I gauge him for now. Certainly in redraft he should be higher.Peterson was discounted for age and I believe the Jags drafted a LB or two this year....yes, Durant and Nkang.Durant's selection hints that Peterson may not have much left in the tank.

You have Peterson at #26 discounted for age, yet have 4 others (Farrior #23, Brooking #18, Fletcher #11, Thomas #5) who are older ranked ahead of him. ??

Jeff?note: I currently own none of the 5 players in any league

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

In giving a quick glance at your LB rankings, one ranking that jumped out at me was you having D.J. Williams 31st. I think being a 3 down MLB puts him in the top 10. Also, I expect a return to form from Mike Peterson, and he seems to be a solid buy low guy from owners who downgraded him because of his injury. I didn't take a really deep look yet, but those 2 caught my eye, especially D.J.

Given that Denver coveted Willis, I just don't think DJ will be a guy that is a starter for multiple years - hence I pushed him down some. Watching him more this season may change my mind, but that's where I gauge him for now. Certainly in redraft he should be higher.Peterson was discounted for age and I believe the Jags drafted a LB or two this year....yes, Durant and Nkang.Durant's selection hints that Peterson may not have much left in the tank.

You have Peterson at #26 discounted for age, yet have 4 others (Farrior #23, Brooking #18, Fletcher #11, Thomas #5) who are older ranked ahead of him. ??

Jeff?note: I currently own none of the 5 players in any league

Sorry, just getting back to this.Peterson at 26. Had to look again as I have Julian at 26 on redraft. Many, many lists.Ok, I have him at 27 after I bumped up DJ Williams (which I'm starting to question already), but I'll focus.Peterson - Age 31Farrior - Age 32Brooking - Age 31Fletcher - Age 32 (this month)Thomas - Age 33Ok, so I mis-spoke when I said because of age. That isn't the only factor. Sorry for that.Obviously guys under 30 I favor if I can, but ZT is a stud and shows no signs of quitting. Brooking, Fletcher and Farrior are all leaders on their defenses. Peterson had some issues with injury, and the selection of Durant started the clock on him. Aside from ATL (Nicholas) I don't know who would be pushing the others for much playing time in the next 2-3 years. So that's why I am "down" on Peterson.