If Trent Richardson stays in school (1 Viewer)

[Hoss_Cartwright]

There will be a lot of upset owners of the 1.01 should TR stay in school as he claims he will do. Of course we all know a lot of RBs say that this time of the year. I highly doubt he returns for his senior season but I guess anything is possible. Stupid, but possible. The shelf life of an NFL running back is short and he will wake up and realize that hopefully. He has until the 2nd week in January to declare for the draft.

 

[Tchula]

I think it all depends of whether or not they win the national championship. He has one ring already, but that was Ingram's ring. This one will would be with Richardson as the star and #1 weapon. If he Bama wins, I think Richardson goes pro.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I think it all depends of whether or not they win the national championship. He has one ring already, but that was Ingram's ring. This one will would be with Richardson as the star and #1 weapon. If he Bama wins, I think Richardson goes pro.

I doubt that Alabama wins.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Can you provide a link where he says he is staying. This is the first I've heard this and a search has found nothing.

 

[duaneok66]

Isn't Luck a nice pick at the top of the draft??

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Can you provide a link where he says he is staying. This is the first I've heard this and a search has found nothing.

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/11/23/2583900/2012-nfl-draft-trent-richardson-says-hes-playing-another-year-for

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Isn't Luck a nice pick at the top of the draft??

Not if it isn't a start 2 qb league it isn't That would be foolish.

 

[duaneok66]

so would you take at the top if Richardson stays??

 

[Xue]

He might not be the #1 RB next year anyway. Some people might like Lattimore more.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

so would you take at the top if Richardson stays??

Blackmon or Floyd. Depends on your taste. Lamar Miller or David Wilson would probably slide into #3. I'm talking dynasty and PPR leagues. If it's a non-ppr I still think Blaackmon goes #1 in most leagues if Richardson isn't in the draft. In the decade that I've been playing in dynasty leagues no QB has ever went #1 overall. None of them are start 2 qb leagues either. Unless your league offers some insane scoring for QBs it's not wise to take one early in a rookie draft.

 

[duaneok66]

where do you place RG3 (assuming he goes to a place where he starts immediately)?

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

He might not be the #1 RB next year anyway. Some people might like Lattimore more.

Lattimore tore his ACL this year and has cartilage damage. He may not be right for awhile.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

where do you place RG3 (assuming he goes to a place where he starts immediately)?

6 - 12 in a 12 team league.

 

[Clash of the Titans]

take it to the bank........richardson will be declaring very quickly after the bcs game....don't believe anything he says about staying in school.........that's just something saban tells the players to say to keep potential agents away in case they do.........

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

If Richardson declares for the draft and the Vikings select him, how far does he drop, if at all, in dynasty drafts?

 

[duaneok66]

very interesting . . .

I still say that he goes #1.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

very interesting . . .I still say that he goes #1.

So you think he still goes #1 if the Vikings draft him? I know I wouldn't and it sure would hurt ADP's value as well.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I think it all depends of whether or not they win the national championship. He has one ring already, but that was Ingram's ring. This one will would be with Richardson as the star and #1 weapon. If he Bama wins, I think Richardson goes pro.

I doubt that Alabama wins.

Why? They are the favorite. Richardson is coming out regardless, book it.

 

[Multiple Scores]

very interesting . . .I still say that he goes #1.

So you think he still goes #1 if the Vikings draft him? I know I wouldn't and it sure would hurt ADP's value as well.

BrownsBucsJetsBengalsAll more likely spots. Gotta think if the Vikings take him that AP has even more serious problems.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Also the Vikings spent a high pick on Toby Gerhert. The chance that they would even consider TR is remote with all their other holes.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Also the Vikings spent a high pick on Toby Gerhert. The chance that they would even consider TR is remote with all their other holes.

I agree, but I've seen this before. What the queens really need is a top DB, so therefore they should trade down.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Also the Vikings spent a high pick on Toby Gerhert. The chance that they would even consider TR is remote with all their other holes.

I agree, but I've seen this before. What the queens really need is a top DB, so therefore they should trade down.

Yeah I see that as being very possible for them. To accumulate picks would be a good goal for the Vikings as they could probably rebuild pretty fast with their core talent. Seems like TR is gonna be in the Browns wheelhouse but they might consider RGIII the way McCoy looks and the whole thing with the concussion scandal. He can't be well-liked by that organization right now (well his Dad anyway).

 

[Multiple Scores]

Also the Vikings spent a high pick on Toby Gerhert. The chance that they would even consider TR is remote with all their other holes.

I agree, but I've seen this before. What the queens really need is a top DB, so therefore they should trade down.

Take Dre Kirkpatrick.

 

[J-Dawg]

Can you provide a link where he says he is staying. This is the first I've heard this and a search has found nothing.

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/11/23/2583900/2012-nfl-draft-trent-richardson-says-hes-playing-another-year-for

You missed this which makes it sound like he's changing his tune. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/10/trent-richardson-says-hes-undecided-sounds-ready-for-nfl-draft/

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I expect Balckmon to be the 1.01 in plenty of PPR drafts as it is ... so the big dropoff should be at the 1.02 spot, imo

 

[duaneok66]

how does Blackmon compare to Green??

 

[bucksoh]

Also the Vikings spent a high pick on Toby Gerhert. The chance that they would even consider TR is remote with all their other holes.

I agree, but I've seen this before. What the queens really need is a top DB, so therefore they should trade down.

Not doubting they need Db help, but they have a Glaring need for OL help, There draft should be OL, OL, DB.

 

[todisco1]

I expect Balckmon to be the 1.01 in plenty of PPR drafts as it is ... so the big dropoff should be at the 1.02 spot, imo

Do you see a big drop off between Blackmon and Floyd? I love Floyd at the pro level and would honestly consider taking him over Blackmon.

 

[cdwood]

I expect Balckmon to be the 1.01 in plenty of PPR drafts as it is ... so the big dropoff should be at the 1.02 spot, imo

Do you see a big drop off between Blackmon and Floyd? I love Floyd at the pro level and would honestly consider taking him over Blackmon.

I was not all that impressed by Floyd in his Bowl game. It seemed to me that he did nothing until the Xavier Rhodes went out of the game with an injury, then he put up his stats. I'll be watching Blackmon today.But getting back to the original thread post, I do have the #1 pick in my upcoming rookie draft, and if Richardson isn't there, then I'll be taking the next ranked runningback. My team needs runningback help. My team has depth at WR which was aided by last year's pick of AJ Green, so I have already drafted the best WR for the next decade. As for the QB position, I have Roethlisberger and will look to draft my next franchise QB, but not with the top pick, I'm not in a 2 QB league, so drafting Luck at #1 is not in the plan.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I expect Balckmon to be the 1.01 in plenty of PPR drafts as it is ... so the big dropoff should be at the 1.02 spot, imo

Do you see a big drop off between Blackmon and Floyd? I love Floyd at the pro level and would honestly consider taking him over Blackmon.

I was not all that impressed by Floyd in his Bowl game. It seemed to me that he did nothing until the Xavier Rhodes went out of the game with an injury, then he put up his stats. I'll be watching Blackmon today.But getting back to the original thread post, I do have the #1 pick in my upcoming rookie draft, and if Richardson isn't there, then I'll be taking the next ranked runningback. My team needs runningback help. My team has depth at WR which was aided by last year's pick of AJ Green, so I have already drafted the best WR for the next decade. As for the QB position, I have Roethlisberger and will look to draft my next franchise QB, but not with the top pick, I'm not in a 2 QB league, so drafting Luck at #1 is not in the plan.

You don't judge a player's worth after a single game. Floyd has been great this year.

 

[domvin]

On floyd, keep in mind his past two years production has been with Tommy Rees mostly at the helm. Kids a true sophomore, and a stopgap for Kelly at qb.

Basically, Floyd has had success despite uneven qb play and is an excellent consolation pick between 1.3 and 1.5.

 

[cobalt_27]

A RB of TR's caliber is just not going to risk another year of playing for free. Shelf life is so short. Give it a 0% chance he stays in school. Absolutely none.

 

[Johnny Bing]

A RB of TR's caliber is just not going to risk another year of playing for free. Shelf life is so short. Give it a 0% chance he stays in school. Absolutely none.

I agree. I don't see any chance that he stays in college.Imgine if you were making 35K a year at your job and someone offered you a job that paid millions of dollars, would you stay at your job just for gratification to finish up a project or two? No, all of us would be taking that million dollar offer once it hit the table. There is too much to lose for these atheletes to stay in college. Keep in mind, this is not only setting the athlete but likely their family also. Most of them don't grow up in a house where money is growing on trees.

 

[massraider]

As someone who has the 1.01 pick, and earned it, I find this very upsetting.

 

[cstu]

When was the last time the consensus #1 RB went back to school for his senior year?

Arian Foster received a 2nd round grade but stayed in school and went undrafted.

Deuce McAllister stayed for his senior year but I don't remember how he was ranked against Jamal Lewis and Thomas Jones in the 2000 draft.

 

[moderated]

Richardson is coming out. Speculation he's staying is ridiculous

 

[One More Rep]

I expect Balckmon to be the 1.01 in plenty of PPR drafts as it is ... so the big dropoff should be at the 1.02 spot, imo

I would take Richardson in ppr or not. I would not even consider Blackmon

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Richardson is coming out. Speculation he's staying is ridiculous

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

A RB of TR's caliber is just not going to risk another year of playing for free. Shelf life is so short. Give it a 0% chance he stays in school. Absolutely none.

I agree. I don't see any chance that he stays in college.Imgine if you were making 35K a year at your job and someone offered you a job that paid millions of dollars, would you stay at your job just for gratification to finish up a project or two? No, all of us would be taking that million dollar offer once it hit the table. There is too much to lose for these atheletes to stay in college. Keep in mind, this is not only setting the athlete but likely their family also. Most of them don't grow up in a house where money is growing on trees.

Insurance policy? Lloyds of London?

 

[cobalt_27]

A RB of TR's caliber is just not going to risk another year of playing for free. Shelf life is so short. Give it a 0% chance he stays in school. Absolutely none.

I agree. I don't see any chance that he stays in college.Imgine if you were making 35K a year at your job and someone offered you a job that paid millions of dollars, would you stay at your job just for gratification to finish up a project or two? No, all of us would be taking that million dollar offer once it hit the table. There is too much to lose for these atheletes to stay in college. Keep in mind, this is not only setting the athlete but likely their family also. Most of them don't grow up in a house where money is growing on trees.

Insurance policy? Lloyds of London?

Those insurance policies collect only if it can be demonstrated the player can never play professionally ever again. Pretty high bar to reach. Not sure what's got you barking up this tree. It doesn't make any sense. He's playing in the NFL next year.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

A RB of TR's caliber is just not going to risk another year of playing for free. Shelf life is so short. Give it a 0% chance he stays in school. Absolutely none.

I agree. I don't see any chance that he stays in college.Imgine if you were making 35K a year at your job and someone offered you a job that paid millions of dollars, would you stay at your job just for gratification to finish up a project or two? No, all of us would be taking that million dollar offer once it hit the table. There is too much to lose for these atheletes to stay in college. Keep in mind, this is not only setting the athlete but likely their family also. Most of them don't grow up in a house where money is growing on trees.

Insurance policy? Lloyds of London?

Those insurance policies collect only if it can be demonstrated the player can never play professionally ever again. Pretty high bar to reach. Not sure what's got you barking up this tree. It doesn't make any sense. He's playing in the NFL next year.

I think I've said it before that I believe he will declare for the draft, but you guys make it sound as if it's set in stone and it isn't.

 

[Multiple Scores]

A RB of TR's caliber is just not going to risk another year of playing for free. Shelf life is so short. Give it a 0% chance he stays in school. Absolutely none.

I agree. I don't see any chance that he stays in college.Imgine if you were making 35K a year at your job and someone offered you a job that paid millions of dollars, would you stay at your job just for gratification to finish up a project or two? No, all of us would be taking that million dollar offer once it hit the table. There is too much to lose for these atheletes to stay in college. Keep in mind, this is not only setting the athlete but likely their family also. Most of them don't grow up in a house where money is growing on trees.

Insurance policy? Lloyds of London?

Those insurance policies collect only if it can be demonstrated the player can never play professionally ever again. Pretty high bar to reach. Not sure what's got you barking up this tree. It doesn't make any sense. He's playing in the NFL next year.

I think I've said it before that I believe he will declare for the draft, but you guys make it sound as if it's set in stone and it isn't.

You're being deliberately obtuse.

 

[cobalt_27]

A RB of TR's caliber is just not going to risk another year of playing for free. Shelf life is so short. Give it a 0% chance he stays in school. Absolutely none.

I agree. I don't see any chance that he stays in college.Imgine if you were making 35K a year at your job and someone offered you a job that paid millions of dollars, would you stay at your job just for gratification to finish up a project or two? No, all of us would be taking that million dollar offer once it hit the table. There is too much to lose for these atheletes to stay in college. Keep in mind, this is not only setting the athlete but likely their family also. Most of them don't grow up in a house where money is growing on trees.

Insurance policy? Lloyds of London?

Those insurance policies collect only if it can be demonstrated the player can never play professionally ever again. Pretty high bar to reach. Not sure what's got you barking up this tree. It doesn't make any sense. He's playing in the NFL next year.

I think I've said it before that I believe he will declare for the draft, but you guys make it sound as if it's set in stone and it isn't.

No, I agree...it's not set in stone because the medium was replaced with granite after the year he had. I'm a bit more ambivalent, however, about whether the sun will rise in the eastern sky tomorrow morning. Crossing fingers.

 

[cobalt_27]

A RB of TR's caliber is just not going to risk another year of playing for free. Shelf life is so short. Give it a 0% chance he stays in school. Absolutely none.

I agree. I don't see any chance that he stays in college.Imgine if you were making 35K a year at your job and someone offered you a job that paid millions of dollars, would you stay at your job just for gratification to finish up a project or two? No, all of us would be taking that million dollar offer once it hit the table. There is too much to lose for these atheletes to stay in college. Keep in mind, this is not only setting the athlete but likely their family also. Most of them don't grow up in a house where money is growing on trees.

Insurance policy? Lloyds of London?

Those insurance policies collect only if it can be demonstrated the player can never play professionally ever again. Pretty high bar to reach. Not sure what's got you barking up this tree. It doesn't make any sense. He's playing in the NFL next year.

I think I've said it before that I believe he will declare for the draft, but you guys make it sound as if it's set in stone and it isn't.

You're being deliberately obtuse.

Without a doubt.

 

[teh_jab]

Also the Vikings spent a high pick on Toby Gerhert. The chance that they would even consider TR is remote with all their other holes.

eh, it's minnesota, timberwolves drafted three guards with their first three picks in 2009 nba draft. it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

A RB of TR's caliber is just not going to risk another year of playing for free. Shelf life is so short. Give it a 0% chance he stays in school. Absolutely none.

I agree. I don't see any chance that he stays in college.Imgine if you were making 35K a year at your job and someone offered you a job that paid millions of dollars, would you stay at your job just for gratification to finish up a project or two? No, all of us would be taking that million dollar offer once it hit the table. There is too much to lose for these atheletes to stay in college. Keep in mind, this is not only setting the athlete but likely their family also. Most of them don't grow up in a house where money is growing on trees.

Insurance policy? Lloyds of London?

Those insurance policies collect only if it can be demonstrated the player can never play professionally ever again. Pretty high bar to reach. Not sure what's got you barking up this tree. It doesn't make any sense. He's playing in the NFL next year.

I think I've said it before that I believe he will declare for the draft, but you guys make it sound as if it's set in stone and it isn't.

You're being deliberately obtuse.

You've watched Shawshank Redemption too many times

 

[cobalt_27]

:IBTL:

 

[football fan]

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Underclassmen.php

The Following Prospects Have Renounced the Remainder of Their College Eligibility to Go Pro and Have Officially Declared for the 2012 NFL Draft.

Player

Position

College

Class

Dwayne Allen

TE

Clemson

JR

Edwin Baker

RB

Michigan St.

JR

Justin Blackmon

WR

Oklahoma St.

JR

Michael Brockers

DT

L.S.U.

SO

Vontaze Burfict

ILB

Arizona St.

JR

Orson Charles

TE

Georgia

JR

Morris Claiborne

CB

L.S.U.

JR

Fletcher Cox

DT

Mississippi St.

JR

David DeCastro

OG

Stanford

JR

Marcus Forston

DT

Miami (FL)

JR

Stephon Gilmore

CB

South Carolina

JR

Chris Givens

WR

Wake Forest

JR

Robert Griffin III

QB

Baylor

JR

Cliff Harris

CB

Oregon

JR

Dont'a Hightower

ILB

Alabama

JR

Stephen Hill

WR

Georgia Tech

JR

Ronnie Hillman

RB

San Diego St.

SO

Max Holloway

DE

Boston College

JR

Jayron Hosley

CB

Virginia Tech

JR

LaMichael James

RB

Oregon

JR

Alshon Jeffery

WR

South Carolina

JR

Chandler Jones

DE

Syracuse

JR

Matt Kalil

OT

USC

JR

Dre Kirkpatrick

CB

Alabama

JR

Peter Konz

C

Wisconsin

JR

Luke Kuechly

ILB

Boston College

JR

Ronnell Lewis

DE

Oklahoma

JR

Andrew Luck

QB

Stanford

JR

Terrell Manning

OLB

North Carolina St.

JR

Jonathan Martin

OT

Stanford

JR

Bobby Massie

OT

Ole Miss

JR

Whitney Mercilus

DE

Illinois

JR

Lamar Miller

RB

Miami (FL)

SO

Brock Osweiler

QB

Arizona St.

JR

Donte Paige-Moss

DE

North Carolina

JR

Eric Page

WR

Toledo

JR

Nick Perry

DE

USC

JR

Bernard Pierce

RB

Temple

JR

Dontari Poe

DT

Memphis

JR

Chris Polk

RB

Washington

JR

Riley Reiff

OT

Iowa

JR

Trent Richardson

RB

Alabama

JR

Josh Robinson

CB

Central Florida

JR

Mohamed Sanu

WR

Rutgers

JR

Darrell Scott

RB

South Florida

JR

Russell Shepard

WR

L.S.U.

JR

Tommy Streeter

WR

Miami (FL)

JR

Robert Turbin

RB

Utah St.

JR

Olivier Vernon

DE

Miami (FL)

JR

Brandon Washington

OG

Miami (FL)

JR

David Wilson

RB

Virginia Tech

JR

Jerel Worthy

DT

Michigan St.

JR

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

:IBTL:

I'm surely thankful he did declare considering I have him one devy league and have the 1.02 in another where I'm now guaranteed one of Blackmon or Richardson Now it can be locked.