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If you draft in the top 5, why not pass on your pick? (1 Viewer)

Any way you cut it, having that 1st overall pick is the kiss of death to a franchise. The player will commnad 30+ million in guaranteed money...heck, even the best proven players in the NFL right now, Manning/Fitzgerald/Moss/Brady aren't even commanding that. Why would you want to give it to some guy like Matt Ryan who could be the next David Carr, or some legacy kid like Chris Long who hasn't proven anything on the NFL level. Just very bad economics. I know people say you shouldn't give away something so valuable for nothing, but a team would be better off just giving the pick away and then using that money to sign a proven free agent or trade for a proven player and spend the money on his contract. The draft has become a joke at the top end.
:lmao: There have been several threads discussing this in the past. I believe MOST of us agree that the top picks are dramaticly, and ridiculously, overpaid. For those who scream "free market", they underestimate the press and the pressure placed on teams by their fans. The only way to fix it is some sort of rookie cap, which the NFLPA will vehemently (and with SOME good reasons) oppose. The NFL will, at some point, fix this problem, but not until enough fans understand the problem well enough to back the owners instead of frying them when the #1 pick isn't signed.
I disagree with both of you. You are overstating reality.The Giants recently won a Superbowl after trading up and paying for the number 1 pick with Eli Manning. The Texans are improving with Mario Williams. The Saints made it to the NFC championship game after drafting Reggie Bush. The Titans made the playoffs with VInce Young at 3.
 
Any way you cut it, having that 1st overall pick is the kiss of death to a franchise. The player will commnad 30+ million in guaranteed money...heck, even the best proven players in the NFL right now, Manning/Fitzgerald/Moss/Brady aren't even commanding that. Why would you want to give it to some guy like Matt Ryan who could be the next David Carr, or some legacy kid like Chris Long who hasn't proven anything on the NFL level. Just very bad economics. I know people say you shouldn't give away something so valuable for nothing, but a team would be better off just giving the pick away and then using that money to sign a proven free agent or trade for a proven player and spend the money on his contract. The draft has become a joke at the top end.
:goodposting: There have been several threads discussing this in the past. I believe MOST of us agree that the top picks are dramaticly, and ridiculously, overpaid. For those who scream "free market", they underestimate the press and the pressure placed on teams by their fans. The only way to fix it is some sort of rookie cap, which the NFLPA will vehemently (and with SOME good reasons) oppose. The NFL will, at some point, fix this problem, but not until enough fans understand the problem well enough to back the owners instead of frying them when the #1 pick isn't signed.
I disagree with both of you. You are overstating reality.The Giants recently won a Superbowl after trading up and paying for the number 1 pick with Eli Manning. The Texans are improving with Mario Williams. The Saints made it to the NFC championship game after drafting Reggie Bush. The Titans made the playoffs with VInce Young at 3.
True...but how has it worked out for San Fran? Detroit? How about with Houston's other #1 pick? And did New Orleans advance because of Bush, or in spite of him (we can try a poll on that topic, but we both know the answer). The truth is that while hitting on a top pick can lead a franchise out of purgatory, missing can all but gaurentee you stay there. While the OP does overstate the argument a little bit, few would argue that the top picks are being paid so much nowadays that they have diluted the value of the top picks to the franchises.
 
So apparently some guy at Sportingnews.com has just written a story about the subject matter we talked about weeks ago in this thread.....I swear that media guys troll this site to find stories to write about because they can't come up with anything on on their own.

WILL FINS PASS THE PICK?

Posted by Mike Florio on March 23, 2008, 11:29 a.m.

Some Internet hack has banged out for SportingNews.com an item that explores the question of whether the Miami Dolphins might choose not to choose a player when their ten-minute allotment during round one of the draft expires.

There’s nothing in the rules that prevents a team from intentionally allowing the time to expire. In such a case, the next team up can submit its pick, and so on. The team that passed has the ability at any time, however, to submit its card with the name of a guy who has not yet been taken.

In recent years, there have been two incidents when time expired. In 2002, the Cowboys ran out of time as they tried to trade down a couple of spots with the Chiefs, so that the Chiefs could select defensive tackle Ryan Sims. The Vikings, who coveted Sims, didn’t realize that the window was open to snag him. So the trade went through and the Chiefs got Sims.

The next year, the Vikings were trying to trade down with either the Jaguars (who were next up) or the Ravens (who were three spots behind Minnesota); both wanted quarterback Byron Leftwich. Time ran out on the Vikes, and the Jags grabbed Leftwich. Then the Panthers took tackle Jordan Gross before the Vikings could submit the name of defensive tackle Kevin Williams.

In the end, the back-to-back gaffes worked out well for the Vikings. Sims ended up being a bust, and if they’d taken him in 2002 they likely wouldn’t have targeted Williams, who has become a Pro Bowler. Also, McKinnie is an above-average left tackle. Leftwich is unemployed.

Anyway, what were we talking about? Oh, yeah — the Fins could opt to intentionally allow the clock to run out in the hopes of taking a guy a few spots lower and paying him less than he’d get if his name were the first one called.

Surely, such a maneuver would trigger a storm of controversy, and it likely would result in the adoption of a “use it or lose it” rule for future drafts. But it also would bring the forefront the problem of unproven players taken at the top of the draft getting so much money despite the fact that they’ve done nothing to earn it.

Anyway, the column is right here.

 
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