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I've noticed that most catchers can't hit. Maybe we should have 2 DHs.
This is not true.Just from a talent perspective, the AL is the far superior league right now.And who wants to see NL managers #### up a double switch? Or pitchers bunt, bunt, bunt.I'd MUCH prefer watching Thome hit a 450 foot HR. Or Ryan Howard play the last 3 years of his new contract.
Alot of SS cant hit either. Or second baseman for that matter. Why not just have 4 batters and 9 fielders?Leroy Hoard said:
You'd still need a 5th hitter for bases loaded on deck circle.
DH is not used in all levels of the minors.Pitchers are professional athletes. If you cant run 360 feet once in a blue moon without injuring yourself maybe you need to find a new line of work.Why an 8 man lineup? Why not 4 DHs, 8 fielders and a pitcher? Then you'd really get the best in the world all the time.Your last statement is utterly moronic.
If the batter doesn't score the run, just switch them on the basepaths - sandlot style.
It would be better if they adopted the rule across both leagues, no matter which rule they go with.imo a DH makes the game easier for non diehard fans to get into.
Not a lot of shortstops doing much at the plate these days either. Make it three.Seriously, anyone who answers pro-DH is a Communist.Leroy Hoard said:
Yeah, perhaps I was too harsh. With a hit, Kershaw could raise his career BA to .081! Must-see-TV.
Yeah, but what about intentionally walking Gregg Zaun to get to Doug Davis? That's the kind of brilliant strategic decision baseball just can't live without.
next thing you know AL hitters will be walking all over the pitcher's mound
A 2.5 hour Dodgers-Padres game with Kershaw and some other pitcher batting is vastly more entertaining than a 4.5 hour Yankees-Red Sox game with a couple of steroid-fueled 38 year old juiceheads who would have been out of the game five years ago were it not for a quirky rule that allows them to keep hitting without actually being baseball players taking intermittent hacks between five minute cup adjustments.If you like the DH, you hate America.
lets put a guy out there to field for the pitcher
This is the only good thing about pitchers batting.
I always find a chuckle more persuasive than an actual counter-argument.
First of all, any game involving Clayton Kershaw will hit the 2 hour mark before Kershaw leaves in the middle of the 5th after throwing 130 pitches, 98 of them balls.Second, there isn't a significant difference in the duration of AL and NL games (AL games were actually shorter on average in 2004 which was the most recent data I could find with a quick google search). I'm sure it seems like time flies when you're watching amazing strategic moves such as walking the .650 OPS catcher to get to the .300 OPS pitcher, the .300 OPS pitcher bunting, and the double switch, that elaborate game of lineup hopscotch where NL managers, in an effort to make the game more AL-like, try to keep their pitchers from batting at all costs. But all that nonsense is actually just slowing the game down.
Joe PozIts a pain to compile the data, but thats the only thing I've seen on game time recently.
Baseball is cyclical. The Red Sox sucked for 86 straight years once, they'll suck for 86 straight years again soon.
This is your bias. This thread is dedicated to making us choose sides, but in general I've seen it pretty even. Some folk think one side is better than the other for whatever reason, but most people don't care enough to be concerned about a change (or lack thereof).
It's fun to argue but I don't think too many of us would stop watching baseball either way.I just might if the DH is adopted by the NL. I already don't watch the AL.It's fun to argue but I don't think too many of us would stop watching baseball either way.
Gross.
I'm a big fan of the ghost runner. Let's see if we can work that in there.
This guy knows stuff.A DH that can't play defense is no more an athlete than a pitcher that can't hit.
By this logic, we should have nine designated fielders and nine designated hitters.Quality of play includes things like speed of play, interesting strategy aspects, player development, etc.Dunn's actually a great example. If he played for an AL team he'd be an uninteresting DH, differentiated from the other gigantic 40 HR monsters in the league only by the fact that there's not much evidence that he takes PEDs. However, in the NL, he makes for a fascinating study. How much offensive production is worth bad defense? Or what about the other way around? Assuming you want to keep him in the lineup, where's the best place to "hide" him? In what inning and with what lead do you pull him for a defensive replacement? Following his efforts to make himself a serviceable first baseman makes for an interesting side story to follow in spring training and in the first couple months of the season. None of these interesting questions or stories come up if he plays in the AL.
Baseball is more than just hitting
how about an extra strike or one less ball for batting pitchers?
