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If you're an NFL GM which QB do you trade for? (1 Viewer)

Hoss_Cartwright

Hoss_Cartwright

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Take out of the equation whether or not you need him to start right away. Which qb is the more desirable choice long term. Ryan Mallet or Matt Flynn? Will Green Bay trade Flynn? He will be a FA after 2011,but Rodgers does have a history with concussions. Mallet has first round talent with a ten cent head. You know NE drafted him as trade bait.

 
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Depends Flynn is the safe choice, but Mallet could either be a big hit or kill the franchise. As a new GM I would take Flynn who has NFL experince but also find another qb to develop as just incase. Mallet has a bunch of NFL GM's scared about his character or else he would have gone allot earlier in the draft.

 
'Shane Falco said:
Today?FlynnIf Mallet gets straightened out, it would be him
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This, i.e. if I'm Arizona I'm trading for Flynn...if I'm Tennessee once it becomes clear Locker isn't going to get it (2013?) and things are going well for Mallett I'm trading for him then.
 
I htink it also depends on the time of the trade (i.e. today, 4 months from now, 1 year from now, etc.). I am curious as to what Flynn would draw in exchange for his services. I wouldn't necessarily want to drop a first rounder on him, but I KNOW I would only have to part with a 2nd rounder to get Mallett. While Bellicheck is not flawless (see Chad Jackson), I think his stamp of approval shows something. I also think if today you were to trade for Flynn, you have every intention of starting him immediately, yet I am not sure many GMs (in need of a QB), would view Mallett as an automatic starter, so we are almost comparing apples ot oranges here.

ETA: Missed the first sentence :unsure:

 
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Kyle Orton

He has winning seasons 3 out of 4 years as a starter.

He is good at throwing the deep ball, he had above average completion percentage when attempting throws over 20 yards, and he had the lowest interception rate in the league when attempting the deep ball, plus he should be fairly cheap to trade for.

 
Hoss,

Out of curiousity, what made you choose those specific QBs? I don't really see how they are related in situation, skillsets, etc...but maybe that is why you chose them?

 
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
He may no longer have the issues being talked about previously
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Bonehead's have a strong tendency to revert back to bonehead behavior, if he behaves himself for a couple of years without slipping up I'll buy in at that time. It might be too late by then, but I think there are better risks to take at Mallett's curent price - real and fantasy.
 
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
Take out of the equation whether or not you need him to start right away. Which qb is the more desirable choice long term. Ryan Mallet or Matt Flynn? Will Green Bay trade Flynn? He will be a FA after 2011,but Rodgers does have a history with concussions. Mallet has first round talent with a ten cent head. You know NE drafted him as trade bait.
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Where did you get the idea that New England drafted Mallet as trade bait?
 
'Sweet Love said:
Hoss,Out of curiousity, what made you choose those specific QBs? I don't really see how they are related in situation, skillsets, etc...but maybe that is why you chose them?
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Highly regarded rookie (at least talent wise) vs veteran backup ready to start in most people's mind. I find it an interesting contrast. Which one would you go after if you're an NFL GM? Which one would be more expensive?
 
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'Marvelous said:
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
Take out of the equation whether or not you need him to start right away. Which qb is the more desirable choice long term. Ryan Mallet or Matt Flynn? Will Green Bay trade Flynn? He will be a FA after 2011,but Rodgers does have a history with concussions. Mallet has first round talent with a ten cent head. You know NE drafted him as trade bait.
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Where did you get the idea that New England drafted Mallet as trade bait?
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https://twitter.com/#!/Jay_Glazer/statuses/70940128977231872
 
If I'm GB or NE I don't trade either. You don't trade a cheap quality backup in Flynn for anything until he becomes too much to pay. You don't trade Mallett because nobody is going to shell out value for a guy they could have drafted multiple times. Mallett is going to start for NE at some point whether through Brady injury (which could then spell a value increase worth partaking in) or his retirement (which would give Mallett opportunity). As Brady ages the odds of a Pats QB getting traded for value decrease. Can't trade the backup to a 35 yo QB.

 
I strongly disagree with the OP that Mallett is NFL ready. If that were so, he wouldn't have lasted to the 3rd round despite a number of QB needy teams passing on him. Flynn in limited duty showed himself to be NFL ready. Something I doubted from an LSU QB, especially after JaMarcus Russell. The Packers have a young gun/gamer at backup QB, and it's why they should continue to contend for future titles.

Mallett landing in New England is probably the worst place he could have landed. He's not going to usurp Tom Brady anytime soon. He's not got the personality of an Aaron Rodgers who can patiently bide his time on the bench. He's likely to burn out his own fuse waiting. He'll never get the stage to prove any "trade value". I think it's hysterical that the Patriots can pull one over on the league (because they are so smart, ya know). Only they can draft a QB in the 3rd round, sit him on the bench collecting dust for 3 years, and other teams will be throwing Kevin Kolb like trades at them. What would convince anyone to do that without a good looksee at the product? And the Patriots have the gall to announce that this is their plan. I'm sure Mallett likes being the stuffed turkey in the shop window awaiting sale. I'm sure he has the demeanor and character to handle that. Mallett knows he'll never get his chance in New England and his time there will be NFL purgatory.

 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
I strongly disagree with the OP that Mallett is NFL ready. If that were so, he wouldn't have lasted to the 3rd round despite a number of QB needy teams passing on him. Flynn in limited duty showed himself to be NFL ready. Something I doubted from an LSU QB, especially after JaMarcus Russell. The Packers have a young gun/gamer at backup QB, and it's why they should continue to contend for future titles. Mallett landing in New England is probably the worst place he could have landed. He's not going to usurp Tom Brady anytime soon. He's not got the personality of an Aaron Rodgers who can patiently bide his time on the bench. He's likely to burn out his own fuse waiting. He'll never get the stage to prove any "trade value". I think it's hysterical that the Patriots can pull one over on the league (because they are so smart, ya know). Only they can draft a QB in the 3rd round, sit him on the bench collecting dust for 3 years, and other teams will be throwing Kevin Kolb like trades at them. What would convince anyone to do that without a good looksee at the product? And the Patriots have the gall to announce that this is their plan. I'm sure Mallett likes being the stuffed turkey in the shop window awaiting sale. I'm sure he has the demeanor and character to handle that. Mallett knows he'll never get his chance in New England and his time there will be NFL purgatory.
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LOL, that was funny. I will say that NE will trade Mallet within the next 2 years for a 1st rd pick and if Mallet has his head screwed on right he's better than any QB in the 2011 draft with the exception of Dalton.
 
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
'Raiderfan32904 said:
I strongly disagree with the OP that Mallett is NFL ready. If that were so, he wouldn't have lasted to the 3rd round despite a number of QB needy teams passing on him. Flynn in limited duty showed himself to be NFL ready. Something I doubted from an LSU QB, especially after JaMarcus Russell. The Packers have a young gun/gamer at backup QB, and it's why they should continue to contend for future titles. Mallett landing in New England is probably the worst place he could have landed. He's not going to usurp Tom Brady anytime soon. He's not got the personality of an Aaron Rodgers who can patiently bide his time on the bench. He's likely to burn out his own fuse waiting. He'll never get the stage to prove any "trade value". I think it's hysterical that the Patriots can pull one over on the league (because they are so smart, ya know). Only they can draft a QB in the 3rd round, sit him on the bench collecting dust for 3 years, and other teams will be throwing Kevin Kolb like trades at them. What would convince anyone to do that without a good looksee at the product? And the Patriots have the gall to announce that this is their plan. I'm sure Mallett likes being the stuffed turkey in the shop window awaiting sale. I'm sure he has the demeanor and character to handle that. Mallett knows he'll never get his chance in New England and his time there will be NFL purgatory.
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LOL, that was funny. I will say that NE will trade Mallet within the next 2 years for a 1st rd pick and if Mallet has his head screwed on right he's better than any QB in the 2011 draft with the exception of Dalton.
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:lmao: ok, agree to disagree.I also failed to mention that Mallett is an absolute tree in the pocket. He will not last for long in the NFL.
 
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
'Mister CIA said:
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
Mallet is probably more NFL ready than any qb taken, especially more than Newton.
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:squeegee eyes: Did you draft a rookie kicker before drafting Ryan Mallet?
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of course :wideeyes: Henery next to last pick and Mallet the last pick. So what?
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Given a choice between Mallet and Henery, you took Henery. It speaks ill of Mallet. ... I actually like Mallet as a prospect, but I think you are applying a bit too much lipstick to this hog.
 
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Unless Flynn's arm gets stronger (and hey, Rodgers' did) I would absolutely take Mallet. Flynn could start adequately for a WCO team but I'd rather take the risk on the rookie becoming a star in this case.

 
Mallet can only fit a certain kind of offense, if he is required to move he will fail, he ran a 5.4 forty. If he is not in a quick pass offense or have a dominate line, he will not do well, he is a statue behind the line.

 
The Packers' system and surrounding talent helps quite a bit. Put Flynn on a lot of teams and he'll struggle.

Too early to know if Mallet is a head case who will be a waste of the Pats' 3rd rounder or if he's a future starter somewhere. Lots of guys who could make all the throws physically never made it in the NFL because the position, to excel, requires a lot of learning and understanding and judgment, not just throwing the ball.

Seems to me if I'm after a game manager who can never be elite but probably won't flame out I get Flynn. But if I'm looking to be on top someday and want a guy with the tools to get it done, and am willing to accept that he might end up a total bust instead, I go for Mallet.

Given the choice, if I'm looking to be more than average in today's throwing league that the NFL has become, there's little point in settling for Flynn.

 
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Flynn's ceiling is a Ryan Fitzpatrick kind of career in my opinion. Serviceable but nothing more. That means 6-10, 7-9 or 8-8. I think Mallett has an extremely high ceiling, and if I had a strong locker room I would have no problems trading for him, letting him sit a year, learn how to be a professional and let his teammates gain confidence in him.

Now if he is my choice, I would make O-line my priority in free agency and the draft to protect him and his biggest weakness, his speed. Now Mallett can climb the pocket, and has shown the ability to make small adjustments with his feet inside the pocket, but you don't wan't him running around. To many teams don't fit their scheme to the players they got, but try to fit the players to the scheme. This is wrong IMO.

You wan't mediocrity, go for Flynn.

You want' a chance at being elite, go for Mallett.

 
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