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[Lash]

Boldin AND Colston AND RWhite here :( BoldinColstonRWhiteRoyWillVJaxprobably benching VJax for Colston and maybe RWhite for Boldin if Boldin plays

Why would you bench Jackson with Chambers out, Gates not 100 percent and LT still hurting?To answer the thread question, I have Lance Moore and Colston. Not sure who to start. NO should win going away, so Colston might be eased into the role.

not to derail the thread, but the info I had at the time was erroneous as far as who was/wasn't playing so i am rethinking

 

[taz]

PPR: Had him on my bench, but am rethinking that with Megatron dinged.

He'd be my flex player (starting Marshall/AJohnson at WR), so now if I sit Megatron, my choices are:

Colston

CPerry

SMorris

Benson

Hightower

 

[Gopher State]

Thanks MCQuestion for anyone owning both Moore and Colston...Is there any logical reason to consider just leaving Moore in this week?

At this time I planning on leaving Moore in and Coston out, my thoughts:Give Colston a week to knock off the rustMoore should be on the field every play, and should be the chain mover in this game, lots of short passesThe Saints could be using Colston as the role of the Decoy, I been burned by the old Randy Moss decoyI know some feel that Colston could get a red zone TD, but if it's close to the goal line I think its Duce's TDI see the NO defense controlling the Raiders, and this being a real nice week for Bush and Duce, as the Saints will be running out the clock and not playing catch upI think when the games over Moore has 7 catches for 90 yards, Colston 5 for 55, neither one gets a TD this week IMO.

 

[Oscar]

I'm starting Colston and Breaston over Thomas Jones, Torry Holt and Braylon Edwards.

 

[Interseptopus]

Colston isn't even guaranteed to play this week... surprised so many people are set on starting him. Must be really hurting to make a move like that.

I'm sitting him. I'm playing V.Jackson over him this week with confidence (and starting Hester over Grant at flex, so Hester over Colston too at this point).

I just don't think Colston sees the field much this week. Sure, he's practicing and everything, but come Sunday in the NO vs OAK thread there's going to be a LOT of people saying "Where's Colston!? I played him over PlayerX " Just not real smart if you've got more decent options availible

 

[MCguidance]

Colston isn't even guaranteed to play this week... surprised so many people are set on starting him. Must be really hurting to make a move like that.I'm sitting him. I'm playing V.Jackson over him this week with confidence (and starting Hester over Grant at flex, so Hester over Colston too at this point).I just don't think Colston sees the field much this week. Sure, he's practicing and everything, but come Sunday in the NO vs OAK thread there's going to be a LOT of people saying "Where's Colston!? I played him over PlayerX " Just not real smart if you've got more decent options availible

I have a feeling you're right but I hope you're wrong. That being said, I am sitting him in favor of 85, who just has to break out sooner or later....right?

 

[salmonstud]

I think I want to see him get through an entire game without reaggravating his thumb. I'm starting the unimpressive Breaston & Mason over Colston.

 

[MCguidance]

Added a new dimension to the thread, how do you think he will do this week?

What are you predictions? List em here.

 

[Interseptopus]

Colston isn't even guaranteed to play this week... surprised so many people are set on starting him. Must be really hurting to make a move like that.

I'm sitting him. I'm playing V.Jackson over him this week with confidence (and starting Hester over Grant at flex, so Hester over Colston too at this point).

I just don't think Colston sees the field much this week. Sure, he's practicing and everything, but come Sunday in the NO vs OAK thread there's going to be a LOT of people saying "Where's Colston!? I played him over PlayerX :( " Just not real smart if you've got more decent options availible

I have a feeling you're right but I hope you're wrong. That being said, I am sitting him in favor of 85, who just has to break out sooner or later....right?

CJ only has 2-3 good games a year where he scores 2 TDs and goes for 250 yards. He's the most inflated fantasy WR in the game- his stats just lie because he scores all of those points in 2-3 games. That said, Palmer is out this week and I'd probably go with Colston if he plays over CJ

 

[djjosee]

Starting Breaston and Holt over Colston.

 

[Interseptopus]

Since I can't vote in this new poll, I'll say <5 FP... 2 catches for 25 yards, sees maybe 10 plays IF he even plays

 

[Mystery Achiever]

I'm with those who'd like to see him play first. Will be sitting him in flex for McFadden or, more likely, Randle El.

I voted >5pts, assuming you meant < 5.

 

[Lobary]

Since I can't vote in this new poll, I'll say <5 FP... 2 catches for 25 yards, sees maybe 10 plays IF he even plays

Bwhahaha.Have you watched any Saints games? Do you realize how often they use three and four receiver sets? Marques Colston is a proven stud receiver with better height, leaping ability, and hands than any other receiver on the Saints roster. If he's playing tomorrow, he'll be Brees's 3rd down target and his red zone target and will certainly see more than ten plays.

 

[Lobary]

Added a new dimension to the thread, how do you think he will do this week?What are you predictions? List em here.

5-8 receptions for 60-85 yards and a good chance for a short TD.

 

[Interseptopus]

Since I can't vote in this new poll, I'll say <5 FP... 2 catches for 25 yards, sees maybe 10 plays IF he even plays

Bwhahaha.Have you watched any Saints games? Do you realize how often they use three and four receiver sets? Marques Colston is a proven stud receiver with better height, leaping ability, and hands than any other receiver on the Saints roster. If he's playing tomorrow, he'll be Brees's 3rd down target and his red zone target and will certainly see more than ten plays.

So you'd jeopardize your star WR, just 5 weeks fresh off of surgery on his thumb, just so that you can beat the pathetic Raiders? I realize they spread the field a lot, but I also have good knowledge of the body, how it heals, etc. I am being realistic that yeah NO wants their star WR on the field, but it's the RAIDERS... it's not a divisional rival, or a team they should worry about losing to. Chances are if he even plays he's used more as a decoy and rarely sees the field.

You really think Payton would risk the season on a Raiders game? Because if Colston injures his thumb again, that's exactly how long he'll be out for.

I honestly don't think he'll even suit up

 

[Lobary]

Since I can't vote in this new poll, I'll say <5 FP... 2 catches for 25 yards, sees maybe 10 plays IF he even plays

Bwhahaha.Have you watched any Saints games? Do you realize how often they use three and four receiver sets? Marques Colston is a proven stud receiver with better height, leaping ability, and hands than any other receiver on the Saints roster. If he's playing tomorrow, he'll be Brees's 3rd down target and his red zone target and will certainly see more than ten plays.

So you'd jeopardize your star WR, just 5 weeks fresh off of surgery on his thumb, just so that you can beat the pathetic Raiders?

This hyperbole again? How many times do I have to say it? There is nothing extraordinary about his return, as evidenced by the names I've referenced numerous times throughout the threads on this topic. If you want to point out examples of players with this same injury who returned--within the given time frame, not earlier--only to reinjure their thumbs, please do. Colston has stated publicly that his hand feels fine and he's catching balls in practice, he's been cleared to play, and his own coach is saying positive things about his status. Yeah, all signs are flashing red. <sarc>

I realize they spread the field a lot, but I also have good knowledge of the body, how it heals, etc. I am being realistic that yeah NO wants their star WR on the field, but it's the RAIDERS... it's not a divisional rival, or a team they should worry about losing to. Chances are if he even plays he's used more as a decoy and rarely sees the field.

I don't give a chit that you're a nurse or therapist whatever. Many of us here have suffered thumb injuries and are well aware of how bad it hurts and the time it takes for the recovery process. We're talking about a professional athlete with a professional training staff at his disposal. If he weren't ready, he wouldn't play. Again, there are examples that support this argument.

You really think Payton would risk the season on a Raiders game? Because if Colston injures his thumb again, that's exactly how long he'll be out for.

I honestly don't think he'll even suit up

No, I don't think he'd risk his season on one game, nor do I think the risk is what you're claiming it to be. If the risk were really that great, why is it the norm for players to return from this injury within a month? Did Tony Dungy risk Anthony Gonzalez's season last year? Will **** Jauron be risking Roscoe Parrish's season when he comes back within the next couple of weeks?

 

[Interseptopus]

Since I can't vote in this new poll, I'll say <5 FP... 2 catches for 25 yards, sees maybe 10 plays IF he even plays

Bwhahaha.Have you watched any Saints games? Do you realize how often they use three and four receiver sets? Marques Colston is a proven stud receiver with better height, leaping ability, and hands than any other receiver on the Saints roster. If he's playing tomorrow, he'll be Brees's 3rd down target and his red zone target and will certainly see more than ten plays.

So you'd jeopardize your star WR, just 5 weeks fresh off of surgery on his thumb, just so that you can beat the pathetic Raiders?

This hyperbole again? How many times do I have to say it? There is nothing extraordinary about his return, as evidenced by the names I've referenced numerous times throughout the threads on this topic. If you want to point out examples of players with this same injury who returned--within the given time frame, not earlier--only to reinjure their thumbs, please do. Colston has stated publicly that his hand feels fine and he's catching balls in practice, he's been cleared to play, and his own coach is saying positive things about his status. Yeah, all signs are flashing red. <sarc>

I realize they spread the field a lot, but I also have good knowledge of the body, how it heals, etc. I am being realistic that yeah NO wants their star WR on the field, but it's the RAIDERS... it's not a divisional rival, or a team they should worry about losing to. Chances are if he even plays he's used more as a decoy and rarely sees the field.

I don't give a chit that you're a nurse or therapist whatever. Many of us here have suffered thumb injuries and are well aware of how bad it hurts and the time it takes for the thumb the recovery process. We're talking about a professional athlete with a professional training staff at his disposal. If he weren't ready, he wouldn't play. Again, there are examples that support this argument.

You really think Payton would risk the season on a Raiders game? Because if Colston injures his thumb again, that's exactly how long he'll be out for.

I honestly don't think he'll even suit up

No, I don't think he'd risk his season on one game, nor do I think the risk is what you're claiming it to be. If the risk were really that great, why is it the norm for players to return from this injury within a month? Did Tony Dungy risk Anthony Gonzalez's season last year? Will **** Jauron be risking Roscoe Parrish's season when he comes back within the next couple of weeks?

So all injuries are alike? Everyone heals at the same rate? Do I think he'll re-injure his thumb? No, I really don't. But there are secondary effects from the surgery and casting that everyone is overlooking.

If you look at my other posts in threads on Colston, you'll see that he isn't just all of a sudden all better. The body has a natural healing time that goes from 6 months to a year until the tissue repaired is back to 100% normal. No professional training staff can accelerate nature. The risk is very slim to re-injure the thumb, but he won't have full function of it for a couple weeks (you put yourself in a cast for 4 weeks and see how much range of motion you have after it's taken off). The thumb is one of the most complex joints of the body, and seeing as how he has been in a cast and all reports I've read say that he's got restricted range of motion in the thumb (expected), you just can't expect he'll jump in there. Sure, he's gone through practice with no ill effects of his thumb, catching passes and such... how many hits has he taken? How many times has he landed on that thumb? How about a face mask to the thumb? As soon as that happens you can bet he'll be on the sideline for a while.

Now if you actually read my posts you'd see that I've said if you have decent options avail you might be better off going with those. Sure, Colston is a decent option for most Colston owners, because chances are your other options suck. We've all been starving for him to come back and now that he's back early we all want to plug him in right away.

I'd rather be safe than sorry, and I'm willing to bet Colston doesn't post over 10 FP this weekend (I still stand by 5, but I'll give for 5-10). I can see you disagree and I don't wish to continue discussing it. We'll just wait until tomorrow. I hope I'm wrong and I hope he comes out and smokes the defense numerous times, but I just don't see it happening. I don't think NO will be in a position to have to pass all game. I may roll the dice and start him over VJack, but I don't expect a whole lot.

It's the Raiders, they'll be up a lot early, and they won't have to pass. If you have better options, go with it, but if you don't then you're better off going with Colston. He's got more upside than a lot of WRs out there if you're hurting that bad. Unfortunately his downside is a big fat goose egg

And isn't swearing in disguise reportable?

 

[Lobary]

So all injuries are alike? Everyone heals at the same rate?

I have no idea, but I do know that these injuries are alike enough for the doctors to prescribe the same duration of time off with the hand in a cast. Healing is inarguably dependent upon the individual, but in general the expectations are the same. There is nothing we know about Colston's thumb to suggest his injury is anything but ordinary.

Do I think he'll re-injure his thumb? No, I really don't. But there are secondary effects from the surgery and casting that everyone is overlooking. If you look at my other posts in threads on Colston, you'll see that he isn't just all of a sudden all better. The body has a natural healing time that goes from 6 months to a year until the tissue repaired is back to 100% normal. No professional training staff can accelerate nature. The risk is very slim to re-injure the thumb, but he won't have full function of it for a couple weeks (you put yourself in a cast for 4 weeks and see how much range of motion you have after it's taken off). The thumb is one of the most complex joints of the body, and seeing as how he has been in a cast and all reports I've read say that he's got restricted range of motion in the thumb (expected), you just can't expect he'll jump in there.

Nobody is overlooking this. You're not breaking news with this information. However, I also think you're overstating the downside--both from personal experience with a thumb injury and the numerous examples of pro athletes who've returned from this injury about a month later. If Colston's cast came off in two or three weeks and he immediately went back on the field, I'd be more concerned. Sunday will be about five weeks, which is sufficient healing time for an NFL receiver.

Now if you actually read my posts you'd see that I've said if you have decent options avail you might be better off going with those. Sure, Colston is a decent option for most Colston owners, because chances are your other options suck. We've all been starving for him to come back and now that he's back early we all want to plug him in right away. I'd rather be safe than sorry, and I'm willing to bet Colston doesn't post over 10 FP this weekend (I still stand by 5, but I'll give for 5-10). I can see you disagree and I don't wish to continue discussing it. We'll just wait until tomorrow. I hope I'm wrong and I hope he comes out and smokes the defense numerous times, but I just don't see it happening. I don't think NO will be in a position to have to pass all game. I may roll the dice and start him over VJack, but I don't expect a whole lot. It's the Raiders, they'll be up a lot early, and they won't have to pass. If you have better options, go with it, but if you don't then you're better off going with Colston. He's got more upside than a lot of WRs out there if you're hurting that bad. Unfortunately his downside is a big fat goose egg

I wonder how many FFers were kicking themselves last year when Andre Johnson came back from his knee sprain to post 6/120/1? Sure, if you have a great option to use instead of Colston, go right ahead. I just don't understand why anyone would bench a guy who they most likely drafted very high. Marques Colston is 6'5, was targeted 144 times last year (with the second-most WR red zone targets), and plays on the best passing offense in the NFL. If you're the type to play it safe, then play it safe. But how will you feel if you start Lance Moore over Colston only to have the receiver you picked first because of his past body of work get his usual red zone/third-down love from Drew Brees while Moore is relegated to Brees's third or fourth option?

 

[Interseptopus]

So all injuries are alike? Everyone heals at the same rate?

I have no idea, but I do know that these injuries are alike enough for the doctors to prescribe the same duration of time off with the hand in a cast. Healing is inarguably dependent upon the individual, but in general the expectations are the same. There is nothing we know about Colston's thumb to suggest his injury is anything but ordinary.

Do I think he'll re-injure his thumb? No, I really don't. But there are secondary effects from the surgery and casting that everyone is overlooking. If you look at my other posts in threads on Colston, you'll see that he isn't just all of a sudden all better. The body has a natural healing time that goes from 6 months to a year until the tissue repaired is back to 100% normal. No professional training staff can accelerate nature. The risk is very slim to re-injure the thumb, but he won't have full function of it for a couple weeks (you put yourself in a cast for 4 weeks and see how much range of motion you have after it's taken off). The thumb is one of the most complex joints of the body, and seeing as how he has been in a cast and all reports I've read say that he's got restricted range of motion in the thumb (expected), you just can't expect he'll jump in there.

Nobody is overlooking this. You're not breaking news with this information. However, I also think you're overstating the downside--both from personal experience with a thumb injury and the numerous examples of pro athletes who've returned from this injury about a month later. If Colston's cast came off in two or three weeks and he immediately went back on the field, I'd be more concerned. Sunday will be about five weeks, which is sufficient healing time for an NFL receiver.

Now if you actually read my posts you'd see that I've said if you have decent options avail you might be better off going with those. Sure, Colston is a decent option for most Colston owners, because chances are your other options suck. We've all been starving for him to come back and now that he's back early we all want to plug him in right away. I'd rather be safe than sorry, and I'm willing to bet Colston doesn't post over 10 FP this weekend (I still stand by 5, but I'll give for 5-10). I can see you disagree and I don't wish to continue discussing it. We'll just wait until tomorrow. I hope I'm wrong and I hope he comes out and smokes the defense numerous times, but I just don't see it happening. I don't think NO will be in a position to have to pass all game. I may roll the dice and start him over VJack, but I don't expect a whole lot. It's the Raiders, they'll be up a lot early, and they won't have to pass. If you have better options, go with it, but if you don't then you're better off going with Colston. He's got more upside than a lot of WRs out there if you're hurting that bad. Unfortunately his downside is a big fat goose egg

I wonder how many FFers were kicking themselves last year when Andre Johnson came back from his knee sprain to post 6/120/1? Sure, if you have a great option to use instead of Colston, go right ahead. I just don't understand why anyone would bench a guy who they most likely drafted very high. Marques Colston is 6'5, was targeted 144 times last year (with the second-most WR red zone targets), and plays on the best passing offense in the NFL. If you're the type to play it safe, then play it safe. But how will you feel if you start Lance Moore over Colston only to have the receiver you picked first because of his past body of work get his usual red zone/third-down love from Drew Brees while Moore is relegated to Brees's third or fourth option?

I'd actually be LESS concerned if the cast came off in 2-3 weeks rather than 4. Your muscles undergo a lot of adaptive shortening and weakening after 2 weeks of immobilization. Multiply that by 2 and it's even worse. Also, I'm not recommending starting Moore over Colston. Anyone who does that with Colston active is an idiot. I have VJack and I may play him over Colston because he's all SD has at this point... whereas NO has many many other WRs to go to instead of Colston

 

[MCguidance]

I am/am not starting Colston

Starting him [ 51 ] ** [51.00%]

Sitting him [ 49 ] ** [49.00%]

Pretty even

 

[Lobary]

I have V. Jackson, too, but the only way I'm starting him over Colston is if Colston is deactivated.

The Patriots have held Rivers to two passing touchdowns in his last three games against, and even though Gates is hurting, I still think he'll be Rivers's primary target.

 

[KingEl]

I've started him.. over Driver... The one thing I wonder-- He's playing in 3/4 wr sets-- and alot of us are saying that means he's playing alot as the Saints use this formation the majority of the time. Others are saying he's going to be limited- maybe 10-15 snaps.....

If the Saint's do use this formation alot and that means he's on the field most of the game- why announce he's only playing in those sets? IF he can play in most of the snaps, why not just start him in his usual position in the 2 sets.... It seems if he can play in 75% of the game- he could just as easily play in 95% of the game... So maybe since he is being limited to certain sets, that does mean he's not ready to go most of the game, but is just being eased in to get some speed of the game feel back.

I think it's worth the chance if he feels great, and goes off... Of course in Week 1 he was healthy and caught 1 pass, so you never know!!

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

I'm playing a wait and see approach. I'll bench him for at least one game back.

 

[Balance]

Since I can't vote in this new poll, I'll say <5 FP... 2 catches for 25 yards, sees maybe 10 plays IF he even plays

Bwhahaha.Have you watched any Saints games? Do you realize how often they use three and four receiver sets? Marques Colston is a proven stud receiver with better height, leaping ability, and hands than any other receiver on the Saints roster. If he's playing tomorrow, he'll be Brees's 3rd down target and his red zone target and will certainly see more than ten plays.

So you'd jeopardize your star WR, just 5 weeks fresh off of surgery on his thumb, just so that you can beat the pathetic Raiders?

This hyperbole again? How many times do I have to say it? There is nothing extraordinary about his return, as evidenced by the names I've referenced numerous times throughout the threads on this topic. If you want to point out examples of players with this same injury who returned--within the given time frame, not earlier--only to reinjure their thumbs, please do. Colston has stated publicly that his hand feels fine and he's catching balls in practice, he's been cleared to play, and his own coach is saying positive things about his status. Yeah, all signs are flashing red. <sarc>

I realize they spread the field a lot, but I also have good knowledge of the body, how it heals, etc. I am being realistic that yeah NO wants their star WR on the field, but it's the RAIDERS... it's not a divisional rival, or a team they should worry about losing to. Chances are if he even plays he's used more as a decoy and rarely sees the field.

I don't give a chit that you're a nurse or therapist whatever. Many of us here have suffered thumb injuries and are well aware of how bad it hurts and the time it takes for the thumb the recovery process. We're talking about a professional athlete with a professional training staff at his disposal. If he weren't ready, he wouldn't play. Again, there are examples that support this argument.

You really think Payton would risk the season on a Raiders game? Because if Colston injures his thumb again, that's exactly how long he'll be out for.

I honestly don't think he'll even suit up

No, I don't think he'd risk his season on one game, nor do I think the risk is what you're claiming it to be. If the risk were really that great, why is it the norm for players to return from this injury within a month? Did Tony Dungy risk Anthony Gonzalez's season last year? Will **** Jauron be risking Roscoe Parrish's season when he comes back within the next couple of weeks?

So all injuries are alike? Everyone heals at the same rate? Do I think he'll re-injure his thumb? No, I really don't. But there are secondary effects from the surgery and casting that everyone is overlooking.

If you look at my other posts in threads on Colston, you'll see that he isn't just all of a sudden all better. The body has a natural healing time that goes from 6 months to a year until the tissue repaired is back to 100% normal. No professional training staff can accelerate nature. The risk is very slim to re-injure the thumb, but he won't have full function of it for a couple weeks (you put yourself in a cast for 4 weeks and see how much range of motion you have after it's taken off). The thumb is one of the most complex joints of the body, and seeing as how he has been in a cast and all reports I've read say that he's got restricted range of motion in the thumb (expected), you just can't expect he'll jump in there. Sure, he's gone through practice with no ill effects of his thumb, catching passes and such... how many hits has he taken? How many times has he landed on that thumb? How about a face mask to the thumb? As soon as that happens you can bet he'll be on the sideline for a while.

Now if you actually read my posts you'd see that I've said if you have decent options avail you might be better off going with those. Sure, Colston is a decent option for most Colston owners, because chances are your other options suck. We've all been starving for him to come back and now that he's back early we all want to plug him in right away.

I'd rather be safe than sorry, and I'm willing to bet Colston doesn't post over 10 FP this weekend (I still stand by 5, but I'll give for 5-10). I can see you disagree and I don't wish to continue discussing it. We'll just wait until tomorrow. I hope I'm wrong and I hope he comes out and smokes the defense numerous times, but I just don't see it happening. I don't think NO will be in a position to have to pass all game. I may roll the dice and start him over VJack, but I don't expect a whole lot.

It's the Raiders, they'll be up a lot early, and they won't have to pass. If you have better options, go with it, but if you don't then you're better off going with Colston. He's got more upside than a lot of WRs out there if you're hurting that bad. Unfortunately his downside is a big fat goose egg

And isn't swearing in disguise reportable?

Aren't you the guy that utterly dismissed my personal experience with this exact injury and surgery, saying that my come back of 4 weeks was an impossibility with Colston? If it wasn't you, there are way too many people acting like they know about this injury when they don't.

You are actually right about one thing, his range of motion. Unfortunately the weight you are putting on the range of motion in one of ten fingers is a tad heavy. 4-5 weeks out I was palming and dunking Basketballs, playing WR for flag football, golfing, bowling, and playing tennis with my surgically repaired thumb.... 15 years ago. You can of course keep trying to wax poetic clinically, I'll keep talking from personal experience.

The only hurdle he will have when he comes back will be the same as any injury... mental.

 

[Lobary]

I've started him.. over Driver... The one thing I wonder-- He's playing in 3/4 wr sets-- and alot of us are saying that means he's playing alot as the Saints use this formation the majority of the time. Others are saying he's going to be limited- maybe 10-15 snaps.....If the Saint's do use this formation alot and that means he's on the field most of the game- why announce he's only playing in those sets? IF he can play in most of the snaps, why not just start him in his usual position in the 2 sets.... It seems if he can play in 75% of the game- he could just as easily play in 95% of the game... So maybe since he is being limited to certain sets, that does mean he's not ready to go most of the game, but is just being eased in to get some speed of the game feel back.I think it's worth the chance if he feels great, and goes off... Of course in Week 1 he was healthy and caught 1 pass, so you never know!!

He caught 3 for 26 yds, perhaps because the injury happened early in the game.

 

[Lobary]

Aren't you the guy that utterly dismissed my personal experience with this exact injury and surgery, saying that my come back of 4 weeks was an impossibility with Colston? I can tell you about the experience I had with range of motion too, but you won't care.

If it wasn't you, there are way too many people acting like they know about this injury when they don't.

Yes, it was him.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

It seems if he can play in 75% of the game- he could just as easily play in 95% of the game... So maybe since he is being limited to certain sets, that does mean he's not ready to go most of the game, but is just being eased in to get some speed of the game feel back.

Being on the field with a few other WRs could also suggest he'll be in as a decoy. I don't think it is worth the risk if you have any decent option - after all, he didn't, as you pointed out, light it up in week one. ALl of our hope fpr Colstn is still based on previous years.

 

[Interseptopus]

Since I can't vote in this new poll, I'll say <5 FP... 2 catches for 25 yards, sees maybe 10 plays IF he even plays

Bwhahaha.Have you watched any Saints games? Do you realize how often they use three and four receiver sets? Marques Colston is a proven stud receiver with better height, leaping ability, and hands than any other receiver on the Saints roster. If he's playing tomorrow, he'll be Brees's 3rd down target and his red zone target and will certainly see more than ten plays.

So you'd jeopardize your star WR, just 5 weeks fresh off of surgery on his thumb, just so that you can beat the pathetic Raiders?

This hyperbole again? How many times do I have to say it? There is nothing extraordinary about his return, as evidenced by the names I've referenced numerous times throughout the threads on this topic. If you want to point out examples of players with this same injury who returned--within the given time frame, not earlier--only to reinjure their thumbs, please do. Colston has stated publicly that his hand feels fine and he's catching balls in practice, he's been cleared to play, and his own coach is saying positive things about his status. Yeah, all signs are flashing red. <sarc>

I realize they spread the field a lot, but I also have good knowledge of the body, how it heals, etc. I am being realistic that yeah NO wants their star WR on the field, but it's the RAIDERS... it's not a divisional rival, or a team they should worry about losing to. Chances are if he even plays he's used more as a decoy and rarely sees the field.

I don't give a chit that you're a nurse or therapist whatever. Many of us here have suffered thumb injuries and are well aware of how bad it hurts and the time it takes for the thumb the recovery process. We're talking about a professional athlete with a professional training staff at his disposal. If he weren't ready, he wouldn't play. Again, there are examples that support this argument.

You really think Payton would risk the season on a Raiders game? Because if Colston injures his thumb again, that's exactly how long he'll be out for.

I honestly don't think he'll even suit up

No, I don't think he'd risk his season on one game, nor do I think the risk is what you're claiming it to be. If the risk were really that great, why is it the norm for players to return from this injury within a month? Did Tony Dungy risk Anthony Gonzalez's season last year? Will **** Jauron be risking Roscoe Parrish's season when he comes back within the next couple of weeks?

So all injuries are alike? Everyone heals at the same rate? Do I think he'll re-injure his thumb? No, I really don't. But there are secondary effects from the surgery and casting that everyone is overlooking.

If you look at my other posts in threads on Colston, you'll see that he isn't just all of a sudden all better. The body has a natural healing time that goes from 6 months to a year until the tissue repaired is back to 100% normal. No professional training staff can accelerate nature. The risk is very slim to re-injure the thumb, but he won't have full function of it for a couple weeks (you put yourself in a cast for 4 weeks and see how much range of motion you have after it's taken off). The thumb is one of the most complex joints of the body, and seeing as how he has been in a cast and all reports I've read say that he's got restricted range of motion in the thumb (expected), you just can't expect he'll jump in there. Sure, he's gone through practice with no ill effects of his thumb, catching passes and such... how many hits has he taken? How many times has he landed on that thumb? How about a face mask to the thumb? As soon as that happens you can bet he'll be on the sideline for a while.

Now if you actually read my posts you'd see that I've said if you have decent options avail you might be better off going with those. Sure, Colston is a decent option for most Colston owners, because chances are your other options suck. We've all been starving for him to come back and now that he's back early we all want to plug him in right away.

I'd rather be safe than sorry, and I'm willing to bet Colston doesn't post over 10 FP this weekend (I still stand by 5, but I'll give for 5-10). I can see you disagree and I don't wish to continue discussing it. We'll just wait until tomorrow. I hope I'm wrong and I hope he comes out and smokes the defense numerous times, but I just don't see it happening. I don't think NO will be in a position to have to pass all game. I may roll the dice and start him over VJack, but I don't expect a whole lot.

It's the Raiders, they'll be up a lot early, and they won't have to pass. If you have better options, go with it, but if you don't then you're better off going with Colston. He's got more upside than a lot of WRs out there if you're hurting that bad. Unfortunately his downside is a big fat goose egg

And isn't swearing in disguise reportable?

Aren't you the guy that utterly dismissed my personal experience with this exact injury and surgery, saying that my come back of 4 weeks was an impossibility with Colston? If it wasn't you, there are way too many people acting like they know about this injury when they don't.

You are actually right about one thing, his range of motion. Unfortunately the weight you are putting on the range of motion in one of ten fingers is a tad heavy. 4-5 weeks out I was palming and dunking Basketballs, playing WR for flag football, golfing, bowling, and playing tennis with my surgically repaired thumb.... 15 years ago. You can of course keep trying to wax poetic clinically, I'll keep talking from personal experience.

The only hurdle he will have when he comes back will be the same as any injury... mental.

So again, all injuries are the same??? :( Range of motion of a thumb is nothing to worry about? You realize that's what sets us apart from any other animal- opposable thumbs. If you can't oppose your thumb you can't do a whole lot, especially catch a football.

Yes, I don't believe he'll be a huge factor after 4 weeks. Ligaments take a long time to fully heal to 100%. I don't think you'll see him back this week. Sure, personal experience you can speak differently. What if I told you it took me 2 1/2 months to overcome my sports hernia surgery, therefore it's impossible for Shockey to come back so quickly. Same logic. Different people heal at different rates. No 2 injuries are exactly the same

I know you feel special and all, I mean your fantasy football WR had a similar injury to you with a similar surgical procedure. You feel like you're an expert on it, I mean, after all, you had a similar surgery so you should be the first person they turn to right?

I'll admit I was skeptical that he'd be back after a month. However, I haven't examined him, so I don't know the strength and range of motion impariments he might have. Maybe it's not as much as is typical- after all injuries and healing time is different between two people, so you never know. I highly doubt you see him on the field this week.

Funny thing is here we are arguing over someone who hasn't even been named active or not PM me when a decision is finally made, THEN we can talk. Until then, as I said earlier, I'm not discussing this further. Let's wait and see what happens. If he plays and posts a 8/100/2 game then I'll be the first to eat my words. If he doesn't play, or does and posts 3/30 then you can eat yours.

Enough chest bumping. Two people with completely opposite beliefs in what is going to happen, nothing is going to be accomplished. If you can't wait 18 hours to find out, then you need to get a life.

 

[Interseptopus]

It seems if he can play in 75% of the game- he could just as easily play in 95% of the game... So maybe since he is being limited to certain sets, that does mean he's not ready to go most of the game, but is just being eased in to get some speed of the game feel back.

Being on the field with a few other WRs could also suggest he'll be in as a decoy. I don't think it is worth the risk if you have any decent option - after all, he didn't, as you pointed out, light it up in week one. ALl of our hope fpr Colstn is still based on previous years.

I think the whole decoy thing is blown out of proportion. I doubt he'll be used as a decoy. Why even put him on the field? Is Oakland that much of a threat that you need a "decoy?"I'd be willing to bet that he's not going to play, but the Saints aren't announcing him out just yet to make OAK plan for Colston. Kind of throws a wrench in a game plan when you've gotta plan for 2 scenarios (in or out).Even when he was healthy in week 1, he wasn't targeted nearly as much as I would have liked to see. Yes, his injury occurred earlier in the game rather than later, but even before the injury he wasn't targeted a whole lot. It'll be interesting to see how they use him if he even suits up this week. I'm struggling with the idea of whether or not he'll even suit up. All this talk about how good he'll do but no one knows if he'll play. If you have to set your lineups early, I'd say don't play him. If you can wait until an hour or so before kick off and switch him in, then play your options. If he is announced as active I may just plug him in and roll the dice. What was said above is 100% right- why bench one of your higher valued players when he's playing? If Colston had a sprained thumb, and was questionable, I'd be willing to bet everyone would be starting him. If he plays tomorrow that is no different of a situation. He is questionable going into the game and probably has similar limitations as he would if he sprained his thumb. It's a tough spot to be in. I will probably be tuning in early to find out the latest injury report to see if he's active. He's got big play ability- he COULD post a huge game... which is a lot more than anyone else that you may have available to plug in. You can't just ignore the fact that he's a top 10 WR talent, injured or not. If he's healthy enough to play, he'll play. I am not so sure he will, but if he is then fantastic- he's had a great recovery, great rehab, and that's awesome to see him out there. He'd be returning at the earliest time frame given to him. That's incredible. I guess now we have to wait and see.

 

[Lobary]

You can bombard us with your self-impressed knowledge of human anatomy, but until you can explain why the 4-6 week return is the norm for professional athletes with this injury, you really have no more credibility than Balance's credibility based on personal experience with the same surgery.

I think this is a routine injury and routine surgery, and the only reason for the scrutiny here is the identity of the player. Roscoe Parrish is a perfect example of what I'm referring to. When he comes back from his thumb ligament injury, nobody will say a word about him rushing back prematurely because he's not a star receiver with a high average ADP in fantasy leagues.

 

[Interseptopus]

You can bombard us with your self-impressed knowledge of human anatomy, but until you can explain why the 4-6 week return is the norm for professional athletes with this injury, you really have no more credibility than Balance's credibility based on personal experience with the same surgery.I think this is a routine injury and routine surgery, and the only reason for the scrutiny here is the identity of the player. Roscoe Parrish is a perfect example of what I'm referring to. When he comes back from his thumb ligament injury, nobody will say a word about him rushing back prematurely because he's not a star receiver with a high average ADP in fantasy leagues.

#1- you can turn the tool factor down#2- Originally it was 4-6 weeks, then it was changed to 6-8 weeks after the surgery was completed. That told me that once the surgeon actually saw the damage it was deemed a more extensive injury than originally thought. Therefore, his return after 4 weeks seemed, to me, too early since it was reported he would have to miss MORE time than originally thought#3- He JUST took off the cast mid week. To me, that seems pretty fast to start throwing footballs in a game setting at someone. But, like I said above- I haven't examined him so who knows what his condition was after removing the cast. If he plays this week then he had a fantastic recovery, and that's great news for him. If not, well then perhaps the thumb isn't quite ready for game action yet and he needs another week. Either way, we'll find out in less than 18 hours

 

[Lobary]

You can bombard us with your self-impressed knowledge of human anatomy, but until you can explain why the 4-6 week return is the norm for professional athletes with this injury, you really have no more credibility than Balance's credibility based on personal experience with the same surgery.I think this is a routine injury and routine surgery, and the only reason for the scrutiny here is the identity of the player. Roscoe Parrish is a perfect example of what I'm referring to. When he comes back from his thumb ligament injury, nobody will say a word about him rushing back prematurely because he's not a star receiver with a high average ADP in fantasy leagues.

#1- you can turn the tool factor down#2- Originally it was 4-6 weeks, then it was changed to 6-8 weeks after the surgery was completed. That told me that once the surgeon actually saw the damage it was deemed a more extensive injury than originally thought. Therefore, his return after 4 weeks seemed, to me, too early since it was reported he would have to miss MORE time than originally thought#3- He JUST took off the cast mid week. To me, that seems pretty fast to start throwing footballs in a game setting at someone. But, like I said above- I haven't examined him so who knows what his condition was after removing the cast. If he plays this week then he had a fantastic recovery, and that's great news for him. If not, well then perhaps the thumb isn't quite ready for game action yet and he needs another week. Either way, we'll find out in less than 18 hours

What are you talking about? It was never changed to six-to-eight weeks. I've read every piece of information about his thumb reported in the Time Picayune and numerous posts on Saints Report forums and don't recall anyone ever reporting that. I suspect the only people reporting that were posters here offering nothing but uninformed speculation about him returning after the bye just because the bye was within a month of his expected return.

 

[Interseptopus]

You can bombard us with your self-impressed knowledge of human anatomy, but until you can explain why the 4-6 week return is the norm for professional athletes with this injury, you really have no more credibility than Balance's credibility based on personal experience with the same surgery.I think this is a routine injury and routine surgery, and the only reason for the scrutiny here is the identity of the player. Roscoe Parrish is a perfect example of what I'm referring to. When he comes back from his thumb ligament injury, nobody will say a word about him rushing back prematurely because he's not a star receiver with a high average ADP in fantasy leagues.

#1- you can turn the tool factor down#2- Originally it was 4-6 weeks, then it was changed to 6-8 weeks after the surgery was completed. That told me that once the surgeon actually saw the damage it was deemed a more extensive injury than originally thought. Therefore, his return after 4 weeks seemed, to me, too early since it was reported he would have to miss MORE time than originally thought#3- He JUST took off the cast mid week. To me, that seems pretty fast to start throwing footballs in a game setting at someone. But, like I said above- I haven't examined him so who knows what his condition was after removing the cast. If he plays this week then he had a fantastic recovery, and that's great news for him. If not, well then perhaps the thumb isn't quite ready for game action yet and he needs another week. Either way, we'll find out in less than 18 hours

What are you talking about? It was never changed to six-to-eight weeks. I've read every piece of information about his thumb reported in the Time Picayune and numerous posts on Saints Report forums and don't recall anyone ever reporting that. I suspect the only people reporting that were posters here offering nothing but uninformed speculation about him returning after the bye just because the bye was within a month of his expected return.

On my Yahoo team- the news updates, one of the days after the surgery the news note read that it was 6-8. But that was the last I heard of it. I never checked it after that, so maybe it was a false report.

 

[None_More_Black]

You can bombard us with your self-impressed knowledge of human anatomy, but until you can explain why the 4-6 week return is the norm for professional athletes with this injury, you really have no more credibility than Balance's credibility based on personal experience with the same surgery.I think this is a routine injury and routine surgery, and the only reason for the scrutiny here is the identity of the player. Roscoe Parrish is a perfect example of what I'm referring to. When he comes back from his thumb ligament injury, nobody will say a word about him rushing back prematurely because he's not a star receiver with a high average ADP in fantasy leagues.

 

[Sebowski]

Sitting him for Steve Smith, Santana, and Rowdy Roddy.

 

[dwarfboy]

1. Colston over Robert Meachem

2. Colston over Robert Meachem/Chris Henry

3. Colston over Justin Gage/waiver wire

 

[Interseptopus]

None of this matters, Colston inactive today

 

[Balance]

Since I can't vote in this new poll, I'll say <5 FP... 2 catches for 25 yards, sees maybe 10 plays IF he even plays

Bwhahaha.Have you watched any Saints games? Do you realize how often they use three and four receiver sets? Marques Colston is a proven stud receiver with better height, leaping ability, and hands than any other receiver on the Saints roster. If he's playing tomorrow, he'll be Brees's 3rd down target and his red zone target and will certainly see more than ten plays.

So you'd jeopardize your star WR, just 5 weeks fresh off of surgery on his thumb, just so that you can beat the pathetic Raiders?

This hyperbole again? How many times do I have to say it? There is nothing extraordinary about his return, as evidenced by the names I've referenced numerous times throughout the threads on this topic. If you want to point out examples of players with this same injury who returned--within the given time frame, not earlier--only to reinjure their thumbs, please do. Colston has stated publicly that his hand feels fine and he's catching balls in practice, he's been cleared to play, and his own coach is saying positive things about his status. Yeah, all signs are flashing red. <sarc>

I realize they spread the field a lot, but I also have good knowledge of the body, how it heals, etc. I am being realistic that yeah NO wants their star WR on the field, but it's the RAIDERS... it's not a divisional rival, or a team they should worry about losing to. Chances are if he even plays he's used more as a decoy and rarely sees the field.

I don't give a chit that you're a nurse or therapist whatever. Many of us here have suffered thumb injuries and are well aware of how bad it hurts and the time it takes for the thumb the recovery process. We're talking about a professional athlete with a professional training staff at his disposal. If he weren't ready, he wouldn't play. Again, there are examples that support this argument.

You really think Payton would risk the season on a Raiders game? Because if Colston injures his thumb again, that's exactly how long he'll be out for.

I honestly don't think he'll even suit up

No, I don't think he'd risk his season on one game, nor do I think the risk is what you're claiming it to be. If the risk were really that great, why is it the norm for players to return from this injury within a month? Did Tony Dungy risk Anthony Gonzalez's season last year? Will **** Jauron be risking Roscoe Parrish's season when he comes back within the next couple of weeks?

So all injuries are alike? Everyone heals at the same rate? Do I think he'll re-injure his thumb? No, I really don't. But there are secondary effects from the surgery and casting that everyone is overlooking.

If you look at my other posts in threads on Colston, you'll see that he isn't just all of a sudden all better. The body has a natural healing time that goes from 6 months to a year until the tissue repaired is back to 100% normal. No professional training staff can accelerate nature. The risk is very slim to re-injure the thumb, but he won't have full function of it for a couple weeks (you put yourself in a cast for 4 weeks and see how much range of motion you have after it's taken off). The thumb is one of the most complex joints of the body, and seeing as how he has been in a cast and all reports I've read say that he's got restricted range of motion in the thumb (expected), you just can't expect he'll jump in there. Sure, he's gone through practice with no ill effects of his thumb, catching passes and such... how many hits has he taken? How many times has he landed on that thumb? How about a face mask to the thumb? As soon as that happens you can bet he'll be on the sideline for a while.

Now if you actually read my posts you'd see that I've said if you have decent options avail you might be better off going with those. Sure, Colston is a decent option for most Colston owners, because chances are your other options suck. We've all been starving for him to come back and now that he's back early we all want to plug him in right away.

I'd rather be safe than sorry, and I'm willing to bet Colston doesn't post over 10 FP this weekend (I still stand by 5, but I'll give for 5-10). I can see you disagree and I don't wish to continue discussing it. We'll just wait until tomorrow. I hope I'm wrong and I hope he comes out and smokes the defense numerous times, but I just don't see it happening. I don't think NO will be in a position to have to pass all game. I may roll the dice and start him over VJack, but I don't expect a whole lot.

It's the Raiders, they'll be up a lot early, and they won't have to pass. If you have better options, go with it, but if you don't then you're better off going with Colston. He's got more upside than a lot of WRs out there if you're hurting that bad. Unfortunately his downside is a big fat goose egg

And isn't swearing in disguise reportable?

Aren't you the guy that utterly dismissed my personal experience with this exact injury and surgery, saying that my come back of 4 weeks was an impossibility with Colston? If it wasn't you, there are way too many people acting like they know about this injury when they don't.

You are actually right about one thing, his range of motion. Unfortunately the weight you are putting on the range of motion in one of ten fingers is a tad heavy. 4-5 weeks out I was palming and dunking Basketballs, playing WR for flag football, golfing, bowling, and playing tennis with my surgically repaired thumb.... 15 years ago. You can of course keep trying to wax poetic clinically, I'll keep talking from personal experience.

The only hurdle he will have when he comes back will be the same as any injury... mental.

So again, all injuries are the same??? Range of motion of a thumb is nothing to worry about? You realize that's what sets us apart from any other animal- opposable thumbs. If you can't oppose your thumb you can't do a whole lot, especially catch a football.

Enough chest bumping. Two people with completely opposite beliefs in what is going to happen, nothing is going to be accomplished. If you can't wait 18 hours to find out, then you need to get a life.

And again... I have been through this. No the range of motion on his thumb is not a big deal (from experience)... not ideal but not a big deal. He can oppose his thumb (from experience), and the splint will aid greatly in this (again from experience). What any other animal has to do with this discussion I'm not sure... but it seems to make you feel better to bring it up so And lets clear one more thing up. You may be speaking on what you believe, I'm speaking on what i know from personal experience (see a trend here?).

PS - lets recall that I came here offering this just as my own story, clearly denoting such, and you felt the need to jump all over me from the start for sharing my experiences.

 

[Interseptopus]

Since I can't vote in this new poll, I'll say <5 FP... 2 catches for 25 yards, sees maybe 10 plays IF he even plays

Bwhahaha.Have you watched any Saints games? Do you realize how often they use three and four receiver sets? Marques Colston is a proven stud receiver with better height, leaping ability, and hands than any other receiver on the Saints roster. If he's playing tomorrow, he'll be Brees's 3rd down target and his red zone target and will certainly see more than ten plays.

So you'd jeopardize your star WR, just 5 weeks fresh off of surgery on his thumb, just so that you can beat the pathetic Raiders?

This hyperbole again? How many times do I have to say it? There is nothing extraordinary about his return, as evidenced by the names I've referenced numerous times throughout the threads on this topic. If you want to point out examples of players with this same injury who returned--within the given time frame, not earlier--only to reinjure their thumbs, please do. Colston has stated publicly that his hand feels fine and he's catching balls in practice, he's been cleared to play, and his own coach is saying positive things about his status. Yeah, all signs are flashing red. <sarc>

I realize they spread the field a lot, but I also have good knowledge of the body, how it heals, etc. I am being realistic that yeah NO wants their star WR on the field, but it's the RAIDERS... it's not a divisional rival, or a team they should worry about losing to. Chances are if he even plays he's used more as a decoy and rarely sees the field.

I don't give a chit that you're a nurse or therapist whatever. Many of us here have suffered thumb injuries and are well aware of how bad it hurts and the time it takes for the thumb the recovery process. We're talking about a professional athlete with a professional training staff at his disposal. If he weren't ready, he wouldn't play. Again, there are examples that support this argument.

You really think Payton would risk the season on a Raiders game? Because if Colston injures his thumb again, that's exactly how long he'll be out for.

I honestly don't think he'll even suit up

No, I don't think he'd risk his season on one game, nor do I think the risk is what you're claiming it to be. If the risk were really that great, why is it the norm for players to return from this injury within a month? Did Tony Dungy risk Anthony Gonzalez's season last year? Will **** Jauron be risking Roscoe Parrish's season when he comes back within the next couple of weeks?

So all injuries are alike? Everyone heals at the same rate? Do I think he'll re-injure his thumb? No, I really don't. But there are secondary effects from the surgery and casting that everyone is overlooking.

If you look at my other posts in threads on Colston, you'll see that he isn't just all of a sudden all better. The body has a natural healing time that goes from 6 months to a year until the tissue repaired is back to 100% normal. No professional training staff can accelerate nature. The risk is very slim to re-injure the thumb, but he won't have full function of it for a couple weeks (you put yourself in a cast for 4 weeks and see how much range of motion you have after it's taken off). The thumb is one of the most complex joints of the body, and seeing as how he has been in a cast and all reports I've read say that he's got restricted range of motion in the thumb (expected), you just can't expect he'll jump in there. Sure, he's gone through practice with no ill effects of his thumb, catching passes and such... how many hits has he taken? How many times has he landed on that thumb? How about a face mask to the thumb? As soon as that happens you can bet he'll be on the sideline for a while.

Now if you actually read my posts you'd see that I've said if you have decent options avail you might be better off going with those. Sure, Colston is a decent option for most Colston owners, because chances are your other options suck. We've all been starving for him to come back and now that he's back early we all want to plug him in right away.

I'd rather be safe than sorry, and I'm willing to bet Colston doesn't post over 10 FP this weekend (I still stand by 5, but I'll give for 5-10). I can see you disagree and I don't wish to continue discussing it. We'll just wait until tomorrow. I hope I'm wrong and I hope he comes out and smokes the defense numerous times, but I just don't see it happening. I don't think NO will be in a position to have to pass all game. I may roll the dice and start him over VJack, but I don't expect a whole lot.

It's the Raiders, they'll be up a lot early, and they won't have to pass. If you have better options, go with it, but if you don't then you're better off going with Colston. He's got more upside than a lot of WRs out there if you're hurting that bad. Unfortunately his downside is a big fat goose egg

And isn't swearing in disguise reportable?

Aren't you the guy that utterly dismissed my personal experience with this exact injury and surgery, saying that my come back of 4 weeks was an impossibility with Colston? If it wasn't you, there are way too many people acting like they know about this injury when they don't.

You are actually right about one thing, his range of motion. Unfortunately the weight you are putting on the range of motion in one of ten fingers is a tad heavy. 4-5 weeks out I was palming and dunking Basketballs, playing WR for flag football, golfing, bowling, and playing tennis with my surgically repaired thumb.... 15 years ago. You can of course keep trying to wax poetic clinically, I'll keep talking from personal experience.

The only hurdle he will have when he comes back will be the same as any injury... mental.

So again, all injuries are the same??? Range of motion of a thumb is nothing to worry about? You realize that's what sets us apart from any other animal- opposable thumbs. If you can't oppose your thumb you can't do a whole lot, especially catch a football.

Enough chest bumping. Two people with completely opposite beliefs in what is going to happen, nothing is going to be accomplished. If you can't wait 18 hours to find out, then you need to get a life.

And again... I have been through this. No the range of motion on his thumb is not a big deal (from experience)... not ideal but not a big deal. He can oppose his thumb (from experience), and the splint will aid greatly in this (again from experience). What any other animal has to do with this discussion I'm not sure... but it seems to make you feel better to bring it up so And lets clear one more thing up. You may be speaking on what you believe, I'm speaking on what i know from personal experience (see a trend here?).

PS - lets recall that I came here offering this just as my own story, clearly denoting such, and you felt the need to jump all over me from the start for sharing my experiences.

He's inactive. Looks like 4 weeks WAS not possible... So looks like not all injuries are the same.Week 7 he should explode