Impeachment Poll (1 Viewer)

[jon_mx]

Fair point, Jon.  I'd agree that is probably the most progressive plan I'm aware of.  To be honest - I'm sure there is a big thread here on it but I haven't spent much in it - I don't know all the details about it.  I never really felt it could get passed into law, even with a Democratic WH and Congress.

I'll take your point and read more about the details of the GND.   I'm not sure I'm seeing the connection to communism, or the economic shift from gas/oil to new technologies and efficiency wouldn't have some sort of offset or long term gains.

The problem with the New Green Deal is that it is such a massive shift in our economy that it breaks economic models.  One estimate which IMHO maybe on the low side, is the New Green Deal if implemented in its entirety would cost roughly $93 Trillion over the next 10 years, that means roughly 50% of our entire GDP would have to go towards all the programs listed in the GND.  That would come at the expense of things like food, clothing, housing, health care, and transportation.  That would be a massive disruption of the entire economy.  The plan was not well thought out, just a wish list of socialist ideas which of which the vast majority had zero to do with reducing greenhouse emissions.  

 

[timschochet]

leftists would only turn to the military for self-defense

Isn’t this Donald Trump’s position as well? 

 

[skol asylum]

Thanks for providing the link. That's helpful. To be sure I understand what you're saying, are you saying a President should not be allowed to campaign for and help fundraise for members of Congress who are supporting issues he's for?

No, I'm saying a President under the impeachment process should not be allowed to make his jurors beholden to him.

Would it be ok in a criminal case for a defendant to make deposits in the accounts of jurists? Of course not.

This is just one more reason why a sitting President should be subject to indictment and prosecution in a court of law like every other citizen. No one is above the law.

 

[Joe Bryant]

No, I'm saying a President under the impeachment process should not be allowed to make his jurors beholden to him.

Would it be ok in a criminal case for a defendant to make deposits in the accounts of jurists? Of course not.

This is just one more reason why a sitting President should be subject to indictment and prosecution in a court of law like every other citizen. No one is above the law.

Are you ok with a President fund raising or campaigning for members of Congress who support issues he wants to pass and needs their vote on?

If Pete Buttigieg is elected President next year and he needs Senate votes to pass a Climate Change bill he wants to pass, is it ok for him to help the Senators who are helping him?

I'm assuming the answer is yes as that's what Presidents have done forever. 

Are you saying there should be some sort of special exclusion for a President involved in Impeachment where he's unable to do the normal things like this they'd usually do?