In depth discussion on back-up RB camp battles (1 Viewer)

[gregjcross]

It would be great to start a thread discussing the #2 RB battles going into camps. And not to muck it up too much with arguments.

GB: Ryan Grant is the starter due to production, however, he needs to sign. Behind him is Brandon Jackson who will battle other free agent/late pick types including Deshawn Wynn, a darkhorse special of last season, and possibly Vernon Morency, who as of now has virtually no shot.

OAK: Behind DMAC, Fargas and Michael Bush, I hear Bush is looking pretty healthy, but is Fargas a lock? Bush might surprise and get some role.

AZ: Who will have a role outside of Edge? Hightower is the newest name. JJ Arrington reportedly slipped to #4 on the depth chart.

INDY: Behind Addai....Domininic Rhodes, is he a lock over Mike Hart? Seems Hart would need a big camp and a mini miracle to overtake him.

TAMPA: Ernest Graham as the primary runner with Warrick Dunn as COP and possibly a touch more; Michael Bennet in the background

BAL: Ray Rice seems to be seizing the job with a great start to camp, as expected.

BUF: Much like BAL's Ray Rice, Fred Jackson of the Bills is a very well entrenched back-up and living up to his role, even seeing reps with first team offense early in camp.

HOU: Of much debate, as its a committee. We have veterans Ahman Green and Chris Brown, then scat type back in Steve Slaton; finally, a dark horse in Chris Taylor, however Taylor reportedly seeing time at FB early in camp. Much to watch here considering the injury histories of most of these guys.

CIN: Is Kenny Watson in the clear or is Chris Perry showing enough. Coaching staff comments that Perry finally looks like his old self this week, and again, Watson is #2 on the depth chart early in camp.

MIAMI: Ricky Williams will take load off Ronnie early. Jalen Parmalee is a lock to make team for future years wiht a hard running style. Ricky could be a solid one.

PHILLY : No value in past years due to Westbrooks high octane performances. In 2008 its Buckhalter, Lorenzo Booker, and a bigger back in Tony Hunt. Booker is getting all the newspaper ink, but is Hunt a potential Power back for short yardage? Is Buck going to still prove to be the best bet due to experience?

NE: previously discussed in depth: kevin Faulk/Sammy Morris/Lamont Jordan

NYG: A committee with no clear back up? Brandon Jacobs, Ahmad Bradshaw as primary; D.Ward in the mix

SD: Is Hester coming on yet? Does Sproles take it by default?

SF: Deshaun Foster doing anything? Michael Robinson had artrhiscopic knee surgery and placed on T.Camp PUP.

DAL: Has Felix Jones, COP back, shown anything yet? Tashard Choice looks like a lock as #3 RB; Alonzo Coleman likely odd man out

SEA: Holmgren reported that J.Jones and Mo Morris will share the load, does Duckett figure in for goal line and Forsett figures in too, Duckett may be on bubble or FB.

CHI: Looks like reliable Adrian Peterson (the lesser AP) backs up rookie Matt Forte as Kevin Jones is on the PUP and asked to lose some weight.

 

[saintfool]

It would be great to start a thread discussing the #2 RB battles going into camps. And not to muck it up too much with arguments

SEA: Holmgren reported that J.Jones and Mo Morris will share the load, does Duckett figure in for goal line?

Read on Yahoo how he has been asked to learn FB duties, apparently. This does not bode well for his FF season.

 

[T Bell]

SEA: Holmgren reported that J.Jones and Mo Morris will share the load, does Duckett figure in for goal line?

Also Forsett is in the mix to get third down duties, I'd presume in the mold of Kevin Faulk. Some things I've read have suggested that Forsett making the roster could mean that Duckett will be released.

 

[dmac37]

It would be great to start a thread discussing the #2 RB battles going into camps. And not to muck it up too much with arguments

OAK: Fargas and Michael Bush, I hear Bush is looking pretty healthy, but is Fargas a lock? Bush could surprise

INDY: Is Domininic Rhodes a lock over Mike Hart? yes

BAL: Ray Rice seems to be seizing the job with a great start to camp, as expected.

CIN: Is this Kenny Watson in the clear or is Chris Perry showing enough

PHILLY : Buckhalter, Lo Booker, Tony Hunt, anyone heads and tails?

NE: previously discussed in depth: kevin Faulk/Sammy Morris/Lamont Jordan. A fuster cluck

NYG: A committee with no clear back up? RBBC, but Bradshaw should get enough looks considering the cost.

SD: Is Hester coming on yet? Does Sproles take it by default?

SF: Deshaun Foster doing anything? I saw that Michael Robinson is slightly hurt and on Camp PUP. Should be Foster.

DAL: Has Felix Jones shown anything yet?

SEA: Holmgren reported that J.Jones and Mo Morris will share the load, does Duckett figure in for goal line? Still think JJ gets the majority in a RBBC.

CHI: Looks like reliable Adrian peterson backs up Forte as Kevin Jones is on the PUP and asked to lose some weight.

 

[T Bell]

INDY: Is Domininic Rhodes a lock over Mike Hart? yes

That's my read too. I think Hart definitely makes the roster, but he's a clear RB3 and is a non-factor in fantasy this year barring injuries to Rhodes and Addai.

 

[saintfool]

SEA: Holmgren reported that J.Jones and Mo Morris will share the load, does Duckett figure in for goal line?

Also Forsett is in the mix to get third down duties, I'd presume in the mold of Kevin Faulk. Some things I've read have suggested that Forsett making the roster could mean that Duckett will be released.

i have to think forsett's a practice squad candidate. it's not like they are displeased with duckett at this point. i think he's fantastic insurance at this point. i can see duckett in a short yardage situation with weaver at FB and it being pretty effective, for example, in the short term.

 

[T Bell]

SEA: Holmgren reported that J.Jones and Mo Morris will share the load, does Duckett figure in for goal line?

Also Forsett is in the mix to get third down duties, I'd presume in the mold of Kevin Faulk. Some things I've read have suggested that Forsett making the roster could mean that Duckett will be released.

i have to think forsett's a practice squad candidate. it's not like they are displeased with duckett at this point. i think he's fantastic insurance at this point. i can see duckett in a short yardage situation with weaver at FB and it being pretty effective, for example, in the short term.

You may be right, however isn't weaver a good enough ball carrier such that they wouldn't need Duckett as long as Jones and Morris are healthy? In other words Forsett seems to offer the more unique skill set, and might make the roster over Duckett for that reason.

 

[stevegamer]

SEA: Holmgren reported that J.Jones and Mo Morris will share the load, does Duckett figure in for goal line?

Also Forsett is in the mix to get third down duties, I'd presume in the mold of Kevin Faulk. Some things I've read have suggested that Forsett making the roster could mean that Duckett will be released.

i have to think forsett's a practice squad candidate. it's not like they are displeased with duckett at this point. i think he's fantastic insurance at this point. i can see duckett in a short yardage situation with weaver at FB and it being pretty effective, for example, in the short term.

You may be right, however isn't weaver a good enough ball carrier such that they wouldn't need Duckett as long as Jones and Morris are healthy? In other words Forsett seems to offer the more unique skill set, and might make the roster over Duckett for that reason.

They didn't need Duckett at all when they signed him - weaver's a FB who can run some, and Duckett isn't that good.

 

[Manster]

Felix will be COP, and we'll probably see him on the field with MBIII at times. apparently Choice is already looking better than Alonzo Coleman, and looks to be MBIII's backup.

 

[AnonymousBob]

DeShaun is the backup to Gore unless he gets hurt between now and the start of the season.

 

[M & M]

What about adding Green Bay to this list. Still have the same situation as last year, Morency, Jackson, and Wynn. Add to this the Ryan Grant holdout situation. I think this might be worth keping an eye on. My money is on Wynn to win the job again this year.

 

[gregjcross]

What about adding Green Bay to this list. Still have the same situation as last year, Morency, Jackson, and Wynn. Add to this the Ryan Grant holdout situation. I think this might be worth keping an eye on. My money is on Wynn to win the job again this year.

thanks, im adding these as I go. Also will toss BUF in there, Fred Jackson is kind of a guy to watch if Marshawn has any trouble.

 

[SammyJankis]

AZ: Who will have a role outside of Edge? Hightower is the newest name. JJ Arrington reportedly slipped to #4 on the depth chart.

Hightower looks to have the inside track on the backup job. I posted some quotes from camp reports in the Hightower thread

 

[saintfool]

SEA: Holmgren reported that J.Jones and Mo Morris will share the load, does Duckett figure in for goal line?

Also Forsett is in the mix to get third down duties, I'd presume in the mold of Kevin Faulk. Some things I've read have suggested that Forsett making the roster could mean that Duckett will be released.

i have to think forsett's a practice squad candidate. it's not like they are displeased with duckett at this point. i think he's fantastic insurance at this point. i can see duckett in a short yardage situation with weaver at FB and it being pretty effective, for example, in the short term.

You may be right, however isn't weaver a good enough ball carrier such that they wouldn't need Duckett as long as Jones and Morris are healthy? In other words Forsett seems to offer the more unique skill set, and might make the roster over Duckett for that reason.

They didn't need Duckett at all when they signed him - weaver's a FB who can run some, and Duckett isn't that good.

let's be reasonable here just for a moment.... while forsett is a talented, he was a 7th round pick. duckett isn't going to make anyone forget alexander but he's a decent #3 RB for this team and offers some flexibility. smallish 7th round RBs generally languish on the practice squad for a year, i think.

 

[Tanner9919]

Chris Brown will rush for 1200 yards as the starting RB for Houston, IMO..Green is finished..at worst, Brown shares the load in a RBBC thing early on, but his speed will win over, and he'll eventually steal that job from Green..

Fred Jackson has earned playing time , at least firmly entrenched as the #2 in Buffalo, but don't bet against him possibly turning this thing into a RBBC, he out-played Lynch last season..

Chris Perry might beat out Rudi for the starting job in Cincy, leaving Watson as the #2, and he's earned at least as much with his brilliant performance in relief of Rudi last season.

 

[dmac37]

What about adding Green Bay to this list. Still have the same situation as last year, Morency, Jackson, and Wynn. Add to this the Ryan Grant holdout situation. I think this might be worth keping an eye on. My money is on Wynn to win the job again this year.

I would think they get things worked out with Grant. If they don't, I think Jackson is in a better position to be the starter this pre-season. Grant was the best RB last year but there was a lot more to it than just Grant. The o-line came together and the whole offensive scheme seemed to improve as the season went on.If Grant does not sign my money is on Jackson, as last year they knew he needed some work as a raw rookie.

 

[gregjcross]

Chris Brown will rush for 1200 yards as the starting RB for Houston, IMO..Green is finished..at worst, Brown shares the load in a RBBC thing early on, but his speed will win over, and he'll eventually steal that job from Green..Fred Jackson has earned playing time , at least firmly entrenched as the #2 in Buffalo, but don't bet against him possibly turning this thing into a RBBC, he out-played Lynch last season..Chris Perry might beat out Rudi for the starting job in Cincy, leaving Watson as the #2, and he's earned at least as much with his brilliant performance in relief of Rudi last season.

Chalk one up for bold predictions. I want to see Perry make it through a full camp before he sniffs Rudi.

 

[Enraged Nerfball]

Chris Brown will rush for 1200 yards as the starting RB for Houston, IMO..Green is finished..at worst, Brown shares the load in a RBBC thing early on, but his speed will win over, and he'll eventually steal that job from Green..Fred Jackson has earned playing time , at least firmly entrenched as the #2 in Buffalo, but don't bet against him possibly turning this thing into a RBBC, he out-played Lynch last season..Chris Perry might beat out Rudi for the starting job in Cincy, leaving Watson as the #2, and he's earned at least as much with his brilliant performance in relief of Rudi last season.

Count me as skeptical about Brown being able to carry the load as a starting RB due to injury concerns. When he first came out of Colorado I was a big supporter and still think he is talented. However he is just as likely as Green to be injured, and Green may even have a slight edge on Brown in durability. As far as rumors of his demise you might want to check the camp training reports coming out of Houston. For now Green is is clearly the front runner. Injury risk, sure. But no evidence of him being done.If Green can stay healthy then the job is clearly his to lose. If he can play 13-14 games as the starter that's all I ask and he will justify his draft position, IMO. If he goes down then all bets are off and we're saying the same exact things about Brown.