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In this thread I rank my favorite Beatles songs: 204-1. (2 Viewers)
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Gr00vus
Footballguy
With the number of songs you're trying to assess, it's even tougher to say one is misranked, particularly when you're listing them according to your preference. To me, everything you've posted so far seems like the individual rankings don't really matter all that much, they're in a tier or two quality wise and rightfully lower down than what lies ahead. Seems good enough, no need to quibble about why one is at 190 and another is at 188.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
What do people typically use to discern mid- from late- Beatles? Is it from White Album forward -- when they became more solo artists publishing together than collaborators?
To me it's always been early Beatles and then the drug albums, with Rubber Soul being the bridge you could include in either place.
To me it's always been early Beatles and then the drug albums, with Rubber Soul being the bridge you could include in either place.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Great point. I usually use Rubber Soul or Revolver as the cut-off point between what I volunteer myself for. I think Rubber Soul is really the album for me, frankly, though I've grown to appreciate Revolver as I age.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
I think that’s fair.
For me (using the British issued LPs), peak “early Beatles” is Hard Day’s Night (criminally underrated and in my top 3-5 albums of theirs). Beatles For Sale and Help are kind of middle Beatles transitional towards Rubber Soul when they really started finding their in-studio creativity. Revolver is peak “creative middle era Beatles”, and Sgt Pepper not far behind.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Love this song. Need to absorb the rest of the list to see if it's too low, but it very well could be in the right spot....and that is scary.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
This song brings back memories to me. I was 11 years old and went to a used record store downtown with my big brother. He was more into Dylan so he went straight to the Dylan section and I of course headed for the Beatles. There I found an odd LP, completely white except for the words "Kum Back" stamped in blue ink. It was $5.00 which was really expensive at the time for an LP but I had to have it so I borrowed a buck from my brother.
When I got it home I couldn't believe what I was hearing: the Beatles rehearsing songs that I had never heard: Dig A Pony, Long and Winding Road, Two of Us and of course Let It Be which instantly became my favorite. This version has Paul playing the organ solo on his piano. The recordings on this bootleg was poor,who knows how many generations, and the preformances were rough, but it completely blew me away. It was really cool to play Beatle songs to my friends that none of them had ever heard.
Anyway fast focus a few months and lo and behold there is the Beatles next single: Let it Be. I ran out to buy the 45 and see the name of a song that I hadn't heard before so I flipped it over and played it. The song started out in a slow, almost sluggish fashion and then John and Paul come in with the loud and un-Beatleish: You know my NAMMMEEE! I was stunned at how awful it was but by the end of the song I was in on the joke and played it over and over, much to the chagrin of my entire family.
Cool song but really weird. Paul once said this was his favorite recording by the Beatles cause it was so much fun doing it. This is the kind of stuff they would do in Hamburg just to get a rise out of the audience.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
It doesn't make you dull. Since I'm a middle Beatles fan as well, it makes us love their best work.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I love Mr Kite as well. I think it's because it is different than many other songs and incorporates the circus organ so very well into the song. The Beatles were so incredible it is easy to love most of their work though.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
That is kind of a stupid song that I do like. I am learning how many Beatles songs I totally erased from my mind though. I am curious what number we get to where it starts getting into non-stop great songs.
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Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Truth.
It also helps that Sgt. Pepper is a top 5 all time album for me. I love every single piece of it, and while the separate parts have some true outright musical greatness, I find myself believing that the sum of the parts is even better.
Yes, my preferences would place every single track of Sgt Pepper's above anything that appeared on their first three albums, even the big hits like Love Me Do or I Wanna Hold Your Hand. Those are brilliant pieces of candy while everything on Pepper (and most of Abbey Road) are musical filet mignon.
rockaction
Footballguy
HIJACK ALERT, BUT MAYBE COOL WITH KRISTA:
I totally disagree with this, but still want to hear your thoughts on David Foster Wallace's triangular structure in Infinite Jest. It's a thread long gone; but I remember it.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
As much as I love them I would place at least 10-15 songs recorded during the first three LPs over Good Morning, Good Morning, Within Without You and When I'm 64.
zamboni
Footballguy
Apologies for the spotlighting, but I'm impressed with krista's open-mindedness that ""Within You Without You" has not yet appeared. I happen to like the song, but I know many folks - including huge Beatles fans - are turned off by the incessant sitar sound.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
Awesome song but I've always preferred Love You To and The Inner Light over Within You Without You
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BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
I’ve always preferred The Inner Light to the other two myself. I think it’s the best sitar featured song by George
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timschochet
Footballguy
Been away (not by choice) so I haven’t had the chance to respond. Though I happen to like several of these songs, there are only two that I really happen to object to being the bottom 10%: “Roll Over Beethoven” and “Rock and Roll Music”.
Growing up in the 70s, I was exposed to these two covers from a great compilation album I owned called The Beatles Rock and Roll Music, which included most of their early Chuck Berry, Little Richard, and Isley Brothers songs. To me, this is really exciting rock and roll; these covers are better than the originals, they have an energy that reminds me strongly of early punk rock. I think this is among the Beatles’ best music.
Growing up in the 70s, I was exposed to these two covers from a great compilation album I owned called The Beatles Rock and Roll Music, which included most of their early Chuck Berry, Little Richard, and Isley Brothers songs. To me, this is really exciting rock and roll; these covers are better than the originals, they have an energy that reminds me strongly of early punk rock. I think this is among the Beatles’ best music.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Love the sitar. But I enjoy it that much more because of where it falls on the album. This sad melancholy song that almost drones, purposely, ending with laughter and then waking you up with When I'm 64 and it's silliness. They go from talking about where to find love and truth and the failures of relationships and people, ending with a statement that we can be one when we come to grips with who we are...……….. and then, not for nothing dear, but you're going to still love me when I'm bald and fat and old, right?
rockaction
Footballguy
Yr not wrong, but this is subjective, my friend. I always found early Beatles covers to be punk rock. But their later-to-middle stuff was even more punkish, if you get my drift.
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Shaft41
Footballguy
Normally, I'm not as big of a fan of the Beatles-just-screwing-around types of songs. But, holy crap I love this song. The pure, unadulterated giddiness is so infectious for me. I like to imagine them recording it wearing wigs and maybe some I'm-Gonna-Get-You-Sucka fishtank high heels.
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
If you want more discussion just put a really good song at #160 or so. The music geeks will come out in droves.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
You Know My Name started out good, but then it kind of lost me when they went to the pseudo-shuffle thing, then it got worse from there. I hadn't heard it prior to Krista listing it in this thread.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
I am partial to Sgt Pepper because it was my first real full exposure to the Beatles. The first time I took an album and listened to it all the way over and over. However, if I am going back now to listen to the Beatles it is one of the last albums I would go for. It's a little too much schtick for me.
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BobbyLayne
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krista4
Footballguy
Almost.
To me we're almost there.
Completely understandable, and a lot of people would feel the same (or nearly the same) way. For me, there are some songs that I admire more than love on SPLHCB and Abbey Road (well, there are also a few I neither admire nor love). It's related to what I said in my first post, which is that this isn't a ranking based on which songs I think are "best" but which ones I enjoy/love the most, similar to Gr00vus loving songs by "feel." I realize that might be a modest distinction for many, and for you, that might not be a distinction at all. Anyway, looking forward to your thoughts as we move through, even when you're disappointed in a ranking!
Always happy for DFW talk. Does this mean the thread got lost somewhere?
I've grown to prefer Love You To the best of the three, but I'm a fan of all of them.
Rock and Roll Music wasn't in the bottom 10%.
By the way, I hear a pretty big distinction between the energy of the two songs, but that's just to my ears. Rock and Roll Music would be ranked higher if I weren't looking at covers a little differently than originals. I'm blown away that you prefer the Beatles version of Roll Over Beethoven to Berry's.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Apparently, me luvely dont care for found art as much as i. The Scrambled Eggness of Beatle genius is second only to the high art & great craft of the masterworks. Recording history is chock full of stories of bass players not showing up so the guitarist takes it over or seeing posters on walls as a writing exercise or throwing together a song about twiddling thumbs as a way to keep from twiddling thumbs when youre waiting for something/one. I've been in studios when someone accidently came up w sumn weird or stoopit, another person ran with it then another and it builds into what i call a cheeseproof music moment which tunes accident into harmonic convergence. There is nothing with more life in it than those moments and Fab history is chockablock with incidents of that kind and i love them all.
The countdown is in a zone where no rating is empirically wrong and it's only taste & experience (and the odd case of importance) by which anyone's ranking differs, so i am just thrilled to hear your views, digest the work you & Ollie have put to it and the reactions of the other busbozos on this Musical Mastery Tour. Carry on -
still can;t find my hat...
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Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Yeah, that ####ed me up too. I need a shot of SambucaRock and Roll Music wasn't in the bottom 10%.
OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
Charles Grodin's version of "Roll Over Beethoven" is superior IMO.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Can't join you and actually better get out of the thread for the rest of the day if you do. Every time i've drank Sambuca i've gotten into a fight.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Sambuca and Xtanbentun (when I'm in Mexico) both are low-level buzzes for me for whatever reason. Tequila & whiskey have gotten me a few black eyes, though.
krista4
Footballguy
Back to it. Two songs that couldn't be more different from each other.
171. All Together Now (Yellow Submarine, 1969)
Beatles version: Spotify YouTube
This song, along with a few others that will come up soon-ish, is a children's song but still a blast for me. It's also been a popular "terrace chant" at English football games - I think it was the Ron Howard documentary that had video of this (though I might be mixing that up with a different doc). I went to see the remastered Yellow Submarine in the theater last year, and the rollicking great time people were having singing along with this one at the end might have positively affected my rating of the song. Sure, it's a trifle, but it's just ####### fun. Sometimes that oughta be enough.
Mr. krista: "It’s a fun song. It’s appropriate for a children’s movie. [Discussion whether YS is a children's movie.] It’s very gentle, and both a children’s song and a drinking song."
Suggested covers: I would not argue it is "good," but the André 3000 version cracks me up. Of course The Muppets version is recommended.
170. Don't Bother Me (With the Beatles, 1963)
Beatles version: Spotify YouTube
Apparently I enjoy the first George-penned song on a Beatles album much more than (1) George did or (2) the rest of the Beatles did, as I've read that none of them were pleased with it looking back.
But I like the spookiness, the darker mood than most anything else they were doing at the time. Check out some of these lyrics in comparison to the rest of what was on these early records:
Since she's been gone
I want no one
To talk to me
It's not the same
But I'm to blame
It's plain to see
So go away and leave me alone
Don't bother me
I can't believe
That she would leave
Me on my own
It's just not right
Where every night
I'm all alone
I've got no time for you right now
Don't bother me
Ringo's percussion and Paul's excellent bass combine to set either a Latin or Western tone (I vacillate on which one I'm hearing) that i find pleasing. I love the breaks just at the end of the verses, too.
Mr. krista: "I like the Western kind of galloping. I like this song a lot. Might be the first time I’ve heard it. I’m really into this. Would make a great soundtrack song, like something where you’d say 'What the #### is that?' 'That’s the Beatles, dummy.'"
Suggested cover: I've listened to more terrible covers of this song than any other so far. All I can offer, again, is The Smithereens, though their version might be slightly too on the nose.
171. All Together Now (Yellow Submarine, 1969)
Beatles version: Spotify YouTube
This song, along with a few others that will come up soon-ish, is a children's song but still a blast for me. It's also been a popular "terrace chant" at English football games - I think it was the Ron Howard documentary that had video of this (though I might be mixing that up with a different doc). I went to see the remastered Yellow Submarine in the theater last year, and the rollicking great time people were having singing along with this one at the end might have positively affected my rating of the song. Sure, it's a trifle, but it's just ####### fun. Sometimes that oughta be enough.
Mr. krista: "It’s a fun song. It’s appropriate for a children’s movie. [Discussion whether YS is a children's movie.] It’s very gentle, and both a children’s song and a drinking song."
Suggested covers: I would not argue it is "good," but the André 3000 version cracks me up. Of course The Muppets version is recommended.
170. Don't Bother Me (With the Beatles, 1963)
Beatles version: Spotify YouTube
Apparently I enjoy the first George-penned song on a Beatles album much more than (1) George did or (2) the rest of the Beatles did, as I've read that none of them were pleased with it looking back.
But I like the spookiness, the darker mood than most anything else they were doing at the time. Check out some of these lyrics in comparison to the rest of what was on these early records:Since she's been gone
I want no one
To talk to me
It's not the same
But I'm to blame
It's plain to see
So go away and leave me alone
Don't bother me
I can't believe
That she would leave
Me on my own
It's just not right
Where every night
I'm all alone
I've got no time for you right now
Don't bother me
Ringo's percussion and Paul's excellent bass combine to set either a Latin or Western tone (I vacillate on which one I'm hearing) that i find pleasing. I love the breaks just at the end of the verses, too.
Mr. krista: "I like the Western kind of galloping. I like this song a lot. Might be the first time I’ve heard it. I’m really into this. Would make a great soundtrack song, like something where you’d say 'What the #### is that?' 'That’s the Beatles, dummy.'"
Suggested cover: I've listened to more terrible covers of this song than any other so far. All I can offer, again, is The Smithereens, though their version might be slightly too on the nose.
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krista4
Footballguy
I love found art. It was John himself who expressed such disappointment over some of his songs including that one. I've always hated that he put his works down so much; one that he expressed some antipathy (hi, rock!) for is in my top 10.
"the reactions of the other busbozos on this Musical Mastery Tour" is one of your best turns of phrases yet.
To an earlier point re me/cats, is there a time you don't?
No, dammit
krista4
Footballguy
Just did an album health check and see that A Hard Day's Night, Rubber Soul, and Revolver are the only ones that haven't had cuts yet.
I'm going to take a little time to think through this order again; I realized that my constantly shifting things around let a couple of songs slip through the cracks - "Misery" stands out to me as one I wish I'd ranked lower. Other than that, though, starting at song #178 we've reached songs I like a ton, so as far as I'm concerned, we're already in the very good stuff.
I'm going to take a little time to think through this order again; I realized that my constantly shifting things around let a couple of songs slip through the cracks - "Misery" stands out to me as one I wish I'd ranked lower. Other than that, though, starting at song #178 we've reached songs I like a ton, so as far as I'm concerned, we're already in the very good stuff.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
NO! It'll never end, krista. Roll with what you have. Trust me, I kept getting married for the same reason.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
My first movie, age 6. It was my first time ever going into town to the cinema.krista4 said:
We ate spaghetti before we went, which I seem to have a clearer memory of than the actual movie.
krista4
Footballguy
Sage advice, too.
Crowd favorite "Baby's in Black" suffered about 20 spots in the last re-ordering.
I think seeing the movie as an adult made me appreciate it a lot more. As a kid, you aren't going to catch all the references and in-jokes and the like. It's a hilarious movie.
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wikkidpissah
Footballguy
as a jokewriter & songwriter (i use the joke form for most of my songs, esp the musical theater numbers, w good result), i'm the last to be trusted with the judgement of my material. generally, the closer one gets to greatness, the more the "mistakes" & shortfalls drive one nutz. far as i've seen, that's the case w most of us, good, bad or indifferent.krista4 said:
sounds about right. Hard Day's Night is easily the Beatles most underrated album
krista4
Footballguy
Interesting perspective, and I might agree but would need to look more closely. I was surprised to see it has no songs outside my top...where are we now...168.
Seems like it would be a love-it-or-hate-it tune. Sometimes I feel both simultaneously toward it.
Spock
Footballguy
You shouldn't get to any Revolver songs for quite some time.
Having a blast following this thread and all of your anecdotes, Krista!
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
"Don't Bother Me" is one of my favorites. 
I didn't realize how much the George songs struck me ...I didn't know which ones were George songs when I was a kid, but it was odd when I found out later how many of them stuck out for me.
I didn't realize how much the George songs struck me ...I didn't know which ones were George songs when I was a kid, but it was odd when I found out later how many of them stuck out for me.
