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A player who gets hurt a lot means does not mean they have no chance to be healthy. He enters this season with the same chances to get hurt as anyone else. Edelman seemed to always get hurt, stays healthy one year and now he is the poster child for health. The short memories in the football world. Amendola is the better player and its not a question. Would of been a waste on Edelman.
Why is Amendola better than Edelman...what has he done to prove that...has he had better #'s than Edelman did last year...has he played a full year like Edelman did last year...does he have Brady's trust like Edelman (check out the targets in the Denver playoff loss)...has he proven to be an excellent punt returner...the Pats may have made their bed by over-paying Amendola last year and he still could blossom but right now he has not shown he is a better player than Edelman or a better fit in the Patriot offense than Edelman is...
Why do people play through injuries if they get no respect for it? What did Edelman do in his 4 years prior to last year, did he have more catches than Amendola? Amendola had more catches by his second year the Edelman had in his career up to last year. Remember the reason Edelman saw the field was because Amendola got hurt and still toughed it out for his team and still played through a major groin injury.
I think its just as laughable to think Edelman is anything more than a product of the system. Amendola showed talent before he was on the Patriots. Edelman is so great he never had over 37 catches before last year. If he is more talented why did he never get a shot before the Amendola injury and why did they sign Amendola in the first place? Further more if he is so great why did they decide to let Edelman test free agency and keep Amendola on a 2 mil salary guaranteed?
He certainly might be better than Edelman, but it's laughable to say "it's not a question".
We are going to agree to disagree because you have zero respect for Edelman...when Gronk went down he was pretty much their only weapon...defenses knew Brady was going to him and he still produced...if you look at the history of Patriot WRS there are far more busts than success stories...far more...if Brady does not trust you and you don't fit into their system you are DOA...I think there are too many people discounting this fact and due to that are minimizing what Edelman brings to the table...as for Amendola I am definitely willing to cut him some slack...the early-season groin injury seemed to plague his whole season and he could possibly duplicate Edelman's production (although they still probably take a step back on special teams)...yet, until I see him healthy for a full 16 and having Brady's trust (and what else the Pats do at TE and WR) I am nervous about their receiving unit...
I like Edelman, have him on one of my rosters, have Amendola too. I'm just reasonable and understand that a player who catches a lot of passes because of a system does not equal a better player or more talented, explain why Welker didn't have 100 catches with the Broncos? Because he wasn't in the Patriots system.
I've heard it before. I'm not interested in getting great value on a bunch of guys that won't help us. Brady is running out of time.
Your reading comprehension is awful. I never said Edelman is so great, or that he's better than Amendola.I think its just as laughable to think Edelman is anything more than a product of the system. Amendola showed talent before he was on the Patriots. Edelman is so great he never had over 37 catches before last year. If he is more talented why did he never get a shot before the Amendola injury and why did they sign Amendola in the first place? Further more if he is so great why did they decide to let Edelman test free agency and keep Amendola on a 2 mil salary guaranteed?
He certainly might be better than Edelman, but it's laughable to say "it's not a question".
He had 73 while missing three games...he also had to share catches with Julius Thomas, Demaryuis Thomas, Eric Decker and Knowshon Moreno...I think he gave Denver exactly what they were looking for...
I'll be shocked if Revis decides to not insist on a ridiculous contract, which is going to cost a #### ton more than Talib did.
Point, the NE slot receiver is a productive position and players will not reach same stats elsewhere. Welker will never produce like he has in New England, Edelman will not produce anywhere else like he did last year. A deaf and blind person can be a slot WR in NE and catch 100 balls. Do you get my point now?
Yeah, who wants a consistent 12-4 record every year?
Geez, settle down. Free agency has just started. Still a lot of guys who can help tremendously out there.
I still think slot receiver in NE = decent production and that it is mostly the system and not the individual players involved. When the Pats have featured a guy in the slot, they have big reception totals. Brown: 83, 101, and 97 catches. Welker: 112, 111, 123, 86, 122, and 118 catches. Edelman: 105 catches.Boston said:
That's how I handle it, too. Expect nothing or you'll be frustrated as hell. Then, if a big name lands in NE, you get to be super elated.ROCKET said:
He's made some big money already. I would be surprised to see him restructure and leave a little on the table to play for the right team. He'll still make huge money. The question is whether or not NE would be the "right team" to him.Boston said:
Allen >> Peppers but I heard Seahawks not Pats are meeting with himJust at least get Revis!
What about Rodgers-Cromartie, or Antonio Cromartie wouldn't they be cheaper and then resign Edelmen?
I love this time of year. The sky is always falling for Pats fans. Talk radio these days is priceless. People are ready to jump off a cliff. To listen to all the whining and complaining and all the glaring weaknesses, you would think the team was coming off back-to-back-to-back 5-11 seasons.
They got their Wrs in the draft last year. Need atleast 1 plug and play vet imo. Nicks, Decker, Austin, Smiff, E Sanders, J Jones, Edelman
Easy to get 12 wins every year when the other 3 teams in the division have sucked for the entire decade. Amazing how bad the Fins, Bills and Jets have been in terms of getting a decent Qb for the last 10+ years.
I understand he is better then those guys but depth is the name of the game in the NFL. I would rather have a starting corner, another receiver and a pass rusher then just Revis
I can't find the thread but I believe it was posted in the AFC East was the worst division in football thread last year. The AFC East had one of the best winning percentages outside of the division since 2000. So this isn't true at all.
It's depth and stars...the Pats have depth and that is necessary to get thru 16 games but come playoffs you need some top-end studs to get you over the hump and the Pats need help in that area...if not you can pencil them in for a 12-4 season with no championship...and one year closer to the end of the Brady era...
I still think if (and trust me, this is a HUGE if) Gronk, Amendola, new WR or Dobson, and Vereen are all healthy Edelman sees a fraction of the targets he saw last year and at best becomes a 40-50 catch guy with 400-500 receiving yards. He was a good soldier last year, but IMO he was the only guy that suited up every week and otherwise not hobbled. That led to him catching 105 balls more than anything else.
